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[Q] Best micro SD for Incredible S

Hi,
I've search in the forum for a topic talking about this and I didn't see anything so excuse me if i double post.
Second excuse I'm french .. excuse my poor english.
Real topic now :
I would like to know if there would be a big differences between all the class of the sd card (class 4 to 12 i think) If yes, wich one do you suggest not to pay 100$ and have a good data transfer rates.

lalexl said:
Hi,
I've search in the forum for a topic talking about this and I didn't see anything so excuse me if i double post.
Second excuse I'm french .. excuse my poor english.
Real topic now :
I would like to know if there would be a big differences between all the class of the sd card (class 4 to 12 i think) If yes, wich one do you suggest not to pay 100$ and have a good data transfer rates.
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Here is a good article about SD card class ratings on wikipedia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital#Speed_Class_Rating
Ou en français si tu préfère:
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carte_SD#D.C3.A9bit
I'm not sure if the class would make a real difference in a smartphone... In a DSLR camera sure but in a phone, not so much!
But obviously it greatly affects the time it takes to write data on the card itself (Class 4: 4MB/s Class 10: 10MB/s).
I am myself looking to buy a 32gb card and my choices are either Kingston or Patriot.
Kingston sells their class 4 card around 75$ CAN
http://www.ncix.com/products/?sku=57109&vpn=SDC4/32GB&manufacture=Kingston
Patriot sells their class 10 card around 100$ CAN
http://www.memoryexpress.com/Products/PID-MX32239(ME).aspx
For the price difference, I think I would go with Patriot

Lexar also do a 32FBI class 10 for a reasonable price in the UK (£70) which is the one I am planning to get (i filled up 8GB in no time with music )
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using Tapatalk

l0st.prophet said:
Lexar also do a 32FBI class 10 for a reasonable price in the UK (£70) which is the one I am planning to get (i filled up 8GB in no time with music )
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Just find it use shopbot and search for LSDMI32GBSBNAR

I personally use a SanDisk 32GB Class 4 MicroSDHC card(the same one that comes with the HTC Thunderbolt). With audio/video playback it's always smooth(never any audio/video glitches) and pictures/video recording start up right away.

Class 10 DNA mem cards:
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Not realy usefull since you dont compare to a cat 6 or cat 4
Does this bench come from your phone or computer ?

i do remember once reading an article about a higher read/write speed means also a higher random access lag, which is bad if you are looking to run apps off of your mSD

I was having problems with a Patriot 16GB class 10 microsd in my Incredible S. Video recording would shut down after a couple seconds. Weird stuttering in the OS.
Patriot acknowledged a problem with their 32gb class 10 in Android and Windows 7 phones. Might've affected some of their 16gb.
Here's my CrystalDiskMark results for the Patriot:
Sequential Read : 18.072 MB/s
Sequential Write : 12.572 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 18.107 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 0.702 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 3.730 MB/s [ 910.6 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 0.006 MB/s [ 1.4 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 4.010 MB/s [ 978.9 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 0.007 MB/s [ 1.6 IOPS]
I switched to a Sandisk 32gb Class 2. No problems.
Here's my CrystalDiskMark results for the Sandisk:
Sequential Read : 14.121 MB/s
Sequential Write : 5.964 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 13.305 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 5.582 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 1.097 MB/s [ 267.7 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 0.484 MB/s [ 118.2 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 0.873 MB/s [ 213.1 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 0.161 MB/s [ 39.3 IOPS]
Based on other people's results, higher classes have really poor Random Write 4KB speeds. Not sure if that matters in Android.
I'd recommend getting a lower class Sandisk. Lower class Sandisk usually perform at a higher sequential write speed than their stated class, and still have good random write speed.

lalexl said:
Hi,
I've search in the forum for a topic talking about this and I didn't see anything so excuse me if i double post.
Second excuse I'm french .. excuse my poor english.
Real topic now :
I would like to know if there would be a big differences between all the class of the sd card (class 4 to 12 i think) If yes, wich one do you suggest not to pay 100$ and have a good data transfer rates.
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1) class 12 will not support for mobile phones
2) class 10 had made some devices to go weird
3) class 6 would b the best choice to select for its value for money and performance
4) i will not recommend u to buy a class 4
5) there will not be any huge difference in read/ write speed whn compared between class 6 nd class 10

I have got Lexar's 32GB Class10 on order, so I will let you know how it performs later this week

kingston class 10 16gb, never will use another one

i am using ADATA AUSDH32GCL2-R, bought it in germany, works perfect, tested in marvel, saga, vivo, ace

Just got my new card
Lexar 32GB microSDHC class10
Initial benchmarks show it is much quicker than all the other microSD's I have in larger writes, but is actually slower than a class 4 in the very small writes, so it remains to be seen if it speeds up day to day useage. Capacity is as advertised and comes with a nice compact USB adapter, overall, very pleased as I can now fit all of my music on it
Will post some proper benchmarks later

Will go with a patriot 10 8gb

SanDisk 32GB Class 4 uSD card $37 - edit 11/06/11

SanDisk 32GB Class 4 uSD card $35 with shipping 10/11/11 only
http://mobile.dailysteals.com/
As of 11/06/11 $37 here:
http://www.icemonkey.com/andisk-32gb-microsd-high-capacity-32-gb-micro-sdhc-memory-card-adapter-kit
The 2 that I bought test out as class 6! Awesome read speeds too!
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Does the NOOK eat 32GB?

32GB is supported and is the max that can be added.

the class of the card really matters? If I use an 32GB class 10 on Nook it will be better than use a class 4? The nook really takes any advantage of a faster uSD card?

Class 4 and 6 Sandisk are best for use on Nook. It is the small block read and write performance that are important. That aspect doesn't factor into what Class rating a card gets which is more about large sequential access.
There are reports of stability issues when using Class 10 cards.

Deal is back on $37:
http://www.icemonkey.com/andisk-32gb-microsd-high-capacity-32-gb-micro-sdhc-memory-card-adapter-kit
These are great cards!
The 2 I bought test out as class 6!
Awesome read speeds!

Thanks for posting this! I was kicking myself that I missed out the first time they went on sale, but I have one on the way now.

Just got my sd card from icemonkey today.
Here is how it tested:
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Crystal Dew World : http://crystalmark.info/
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 byte/s [SATA/300 = 300,000,000 byte/s]
Sequential Read : 19.184 MB/s
Sequential Write : 6.978 MB/s
Random Read 512KB : 18.783 MB/s
Random Write 512KB : 1.616 MB/s
Random Read 4KB (QD=1) : 3.412 MB/s [ 833.1 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=1) : 1.389 MB/s [ 339.1 IOPS]
Random Read 4KB (QD=32) : 3.235 MB/s [ 789.8 IOPS]
Random Write 4KB (QD=32) : 0.977 MB/s [ 238.6 IOPS]
Test : 50 MB [J: 0.0% (0.0/29.7 GB)] (x2)
Date : 2011/11/15 16:48:38
OS : Windows XP Professional SP3 [5.1 Build 2600] (x86)

I have a general question about using crystaldiskmark for these tests. I used 3 different micro-sd cards that were varying brands, sizes, and classes when performing each test. The 2 write speeds that everyone seems to highlight ended up being .02 or .01 something for each card. Is that possible? I figure something was up with my computer. I'm new to testing cards like this, but these scores are so much lower than everyone else's, some even using the same cards as I am. I did the test with the internal micro-sd card reader on my PC. Am I doing something wrong? Even running the crystal test on my hard drive produced low scores in those areas.

First of all what brand and class of sd cards are you testing? Non-sandisk cards have almost all been shown not to have fast enough small block random write ratings to run CM7 satisfactorily.
Several people posting here had observed issues with sd card readers built in to their laptops/computers and used an external reader with better results.
Here is the link to the thread where extensive sd card testing was done by many of the forum participants:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=12964262

yeah I went through that whole thread before I posted as a reference and to see how to test. One of the cards was an 8gb sandisk, class 2. Another was a 2gb sandisk, class 2. Third was a 16gb something (in my phone right now and don't want to pull) that is class 10 or 6..All gave me the same results, which I would think is strange. For what it's worth, cm7 runs fast and smooth booting from my 8gb class 2 sandisk. But seeing those test results would say otherwise I would think. The 2gb sandisk booted and ran cm7 fine as well.

One thing you might want to check is if crystaldiskmark is set at 2 test runs, 50mb test size. I did a 5 test run, 500mb test size and got a really bad small block random write score around .100.
If your CM7 is running fine, then I wouldn't worry about it.

got me one thanks

[SPECS] Xiaomi Redmi Note Specifications - Members Thoughts

Hey all
Xiaomi's Phablet device has been on the streets for a while now. Coming in 2 variants, a 1GB RAM model with 8GB of memory and a 2GB version with 16GB of memory, both can be upgraded by way of a SD card. It sports a 5.5" IPS display and a 1.4Ghz/1.7GHz Octa-core processor. Feel free to comment on the overall specifications and design of the Xiaomi Redmi Note:good:
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Specifications:
Display - IPS LCD, 720 x 1280 pixels, 5.5 inches (~267 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Mediatek MT6592
CPU - Octa-core 1.4/1.7 GHz Cortex-A7
GPU - Mali-450MP4
RAM - 1-2 GB RAM depending on model
Memory - 8-16GB
Camera - 13 MP, 4128 x 3096 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Secondary Camera - 5MP
Sensors - Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, Wi-Fi Direct, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0
Battery - 3200 mAh
Dimensions - 154 x 78.7 x 9.5 mm
Weight - 199g
Source: gsmarena

Nice phone for the money.
Be better if kernel source were released so the xda wizards could
do some development.

Already own this. Enhanced version.

do we know if this device gets official MIUI V6 or KitKat in general ?????

MIUI 6 for sure.

This is indeed a nice device.
One question does this device has screen protection such as Gorilla Glass or Dragontrail Glass like Redmi/Hongmi 1s?

windbayou said:
This is indeed a nice device.
One question does this device has screen protection such as Gorilla Glass or Dragontrail Glass like Redmi/Hongmi 1s?
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Doesn't list it in the specs. Just says it is an IPS-LCD Screen.
IPS stands for in-plane switching. An IPS-LCD is a type of thin display that offers better viewing angles than TFT-LCDs. IPS-LCDs feature two transistors for each pixel, where TFT-LCDs use just one. This requires a more powerful backlight, which delivers more accurate colors, and allows the screen to be viewed from a wider angle. The downside is that an IPS-LCD may consume more power than a TFT-LCD.
IPS-LCDs typically are found on high-end cell phones and portable devices. Apple's iPhone and iPad both feature IPS-LCDs, as does the Motorola Droid.

where can you buy the 16gb version?
i found the 2gb ram version here but it says it only has 8gb
with regard to the 2g/3g it says it supports:
2G: GSM 900/1800/1900MHz
3G: WCDMA 900/2100MHz
does this mean i would get full HSDPA speeds on the Three network in the UK like i do currently with my Galaxy Note 1 (N7000)

No
vassilis1 said:
do we know if this device gets official MIUI V6 or KitKat in general ?????
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May not get. It won't take time to do so for them. When indian companies like xolo did for many 1 year old phones immediately after release, why can't Xiaomi?

http://en.miui.com/thread-67454-1-1.html
All Redmi phones will get MIUI 6 developer version and stable version; We will try our best to release some beta versions by the end of Dec. 2014

I think the device is pretty great for the price tag.
Got some really nice specs of you ask me.
Works great in general use, web surfing with chrome is butter smooth and sweet gaming performance as well.
My only hardware issue is with the camera, despite being a 13 MP camera, it's pretty lame, but still you can get "okay" photos out of it.
And yea Btw, blame Mediatek for the source code. [emoji16]
Sent from my A18+ with Tapatalk ^-^

Best microsd card for X compact?

Hey guyS
Ive been struggling lately to find a microsd card with good transfer rates to use on this phone it seems that the phone isnt able to get full speed
First I bought a sandisk extreme u3 64gb sdxc which after I tested with a1 sd bench I was only getting 30R - 30W
I thought maybe that was the card or something and went and got a Kodak micro Sdxc u3 64gb which is claiming to give you 95R and 90W but the intresting part is that after test with A1 sd bench this card is also giving me the same 30R and 30W
Any ideas?
Anyone tested any other microsd cards?
Maybe lexar will do a better job...

It's hard finding a decent card just by looking at boxes (and due to how marketing is... cringeworthy).
I was running a Sandisk Extreme Prov30 UHS-1 U3 card in my PC when it had Win10 (but Linux is installed and can't see the iSCSI controller so it's going to go into the Xperia for photos/music).
On the tablet I was getting 60/230MB/s (write/read).
Probably the cheapest fastest cards you can get for the price.
I recommend taking a look at this:
http://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/memory-cards/index.html
Here you will find tested cards. Cards that are UHS-1 U3 will work best. UHS-II cards don't necessarily translate to faster speeds just because they're UHS-II.
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Also word of advice: Don't buy memory cards off eBay.

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volcolm said:
It's hard finding a decent card just by looking at boxes (and due to how marketing is... cringeworthy).
I was running a Sandisk Extreme Prov30 UHS-1 U3 card in my PC when it had Win10 (but Linux is installed and can't see the iSCSI controller so it's going to go into the Xperia for photos/music).
On the tablet I was getting 60/230MB/s (write/read).
Probably the cheapest fastest cards you can get for the price.
I recommend taking a look at this:
http://www.tweaktown.com/cat/storage/memory-cards/index.html
Here you will find tested cards. Cards that are UHS-1 U3 will work best. UHS-II cards don't necessarily translate to faster speeds just because they're UHS-II.
---------- Post added at 11:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:41 PM ----------
Also word of advice: Don't buy memory cards off eBay.
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thanks for the info, yeah that's right but the problem is that I tried multiple u3 cards on this phone and when I test them with sdtool on android r/w speed wont go more than 30 each!
I know that the card isnt fake and all of them have an advetised speed of at least 50/50 r/w and up to 95/95 r/w

well, that's simply because the sd-card reader is only that fast. Have a look at review first maybe, e.g. the notebookcheck one.

Yeah I just bought a U3 microSD (Kingston SDCA3/32GB) which advertises 90 MB/s read, 45 MB/s write. My Androbench results were only 31 MB/s sequential read and 28.5 MB/s sequential write. In fact this measurement on the phone is slower than the U1 card I bought 2 years ago for my tablet, as measured on my tablet. I don't actually possess any USB 3.0 microSD readers so I don't have any proper way of benchmarking. But my results are consistent with the above experience - it doesn't test at any better than 30/30 on the X Compact. Can anyone provide a concrete example of a microSD doing better than 30/30 on the X Compact?

Yeah, I've been using a Sandisk 128 v30 card and it's good for the camera, but not so great for apps -- I'm noticing slowdown on boot (the app icons on home screen actually silhouette out for 5sec then load). Telegram likes to cache the most, and all the others run at boot or in the background -- thing is I don't even have a lot of apps on this device to begin with (all of 4). This card gets much greater speeds than advertised when it's thrown inside a Lenovo tablet (it's using PCIe on the connector).
This is definitely a device limitation and not an SD card issue.

Hmm well that's disappointing. So far I'm only using the card for Hearthstone and images.
I guess this might explain why adoptable storage isn't available stock on this device. Even if you have a fast enough card, the hardware throttles transfer rates.
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General Lower benchmark scores than the normal for my Redmi Note 11 6GB/64GB variant.

I have the Redmi Note 11 6GB/64GB variant (bought it less than a week ago). I got to doing some benchmarking of my phone. I first checked the benchmark scores for my device on various sites and YouTube videos.
First, the Geek Bench 5 scores should be (according to YT reviewers' videos and other websites) around 364 for single core and 1500 for multi core . My device's score was 171 for single core and 911 for multicore.
Then I performed the AnTuTu benchmark and the scores should be around 270k but my score was 173847. Now that's a lot of difference, I wouldn't mind if the score was like 220k or something but 270k to 170k is a lot of difference.
I performed the benchmark tests in the first place because I was facing lag even while using Instagram and scrolling through WhatsApp and Telegram, I have restarted my device several times, the free RAM is always around or more than 3GB, I don't have many apps installed either. I have more than 50% of my storage free, nothing heavy was running in background while testing either. I don't play heavy games or stuff but I at least want my daily use experience to be smooth, what's the point if I can't even scroll Instagram without facing lags?
Here are the screenshots of the scores from Geek Bench and AnTuTu.
I'm extremely dissatisfied with this, should I get a replacement? I'm not really sure if the issue is with my device's hardware or it's MIUI's fault. If it's the latter then I'm ready to flash a custom rom to my phone if it will fix the issue. What could be the problem? Any help is appreciated.

_voldemort_with_a_nose_ said:
I have the Redmi Note 11 6GB/64GB variant (bought it less than a week ago). I got to doing some benchmarking of my phone. I first checked the benchmark scores for my device on various sites and YouTube videos.
First, the Geek Bench 5 scores should be (according to YT reviewers' videos and other websites) around 364 for single core and 1500 for multi core . My device's score was 171 for single core and 911 for multicore.
Then I performed the AnTuTu benchmark and the scores should be around 270k but my score was 173847. Now that's a lot of difference, I wouldn't mind if the score was like 220k or something but 270k to 170k is a lot of difference.
I performed the benchmark tests in the first place because I was facing lag even while using Instagram and scrolling through WhatsApp and Telegram, I have restarted my device several times, the free RAM is always around or more than 3GB, I don't have many apps installed either. I have more than 50% of my storage free, nothing heavy was running in background while testing either. I don't play heavy games or stuff but I at least want my daily use experience to be smooth, what's the point if I can't even scroll Instagram without facing lags?
Here are the screenshots of the scores from Geek Bench and AnTuTu.
I'm extremely dissatisfied with this, should I get a replacement? I'm not really sure if the issue is with my device's hardware or it's MIUI's fault. If it's the latter then I'm ready to flash a custom rom to my phone if it will fix the issue. What could be the problem? Any help is appreciated.
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I have the same problem

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thats the 4/64 variant of mine
also the LTE speeds are trash

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thats the 4/64 variant of mine
also the LTE speeds are trash
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Ya the LTE speeds are somewhat slower on this phone. At my home, on my Pixel 4a I get 20-40 Mbps with Airtel 4G, but on Redmi note 11 I get around 15-30 Mbps. It never cross 30 and reach 40 like pixel 4a.
I have the 6GB/64GB variant.
Also slower WIFI speeds. I have a BSNL Fiber wifi at home. Its just 2.4 Ghz but my pixel 4a reach speed upto 90-100 Mbps, whereas Note 11 never cross 50 Mbps. I know Note 11 will give faster speeds with 5Ghz wifi, but sill if pixel can reach 100mbps with 2.5ghz wifi then Note 11 should have been able to reach those speeds too.
Anyways, 50Mbps wifi and 30Mbps LTE speed is enough for me. So no complaints. LTE speed increases to 50-60mbps when I am in good network coverge area.

it fixed itself or the update i did manually helped (V13.0.7.0.RGKEUXM) but the score now is this:

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it fixed itself or the update i did manually helped (V13.0.7.0.RGKEUXM) but the score now is this:
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Can you make a couple of phone calls and try out the same benchmark? I am sure you should see decreased performance.
Check this for what's going on in detail.
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After a phone call the cpu caps at 50%. I had this phone.