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Three questions regarding root and the OTA

So, I got my Moto X on Verizon today. The OTA started downloading already. Luckily, I turned off all data before it could finish downloading (it's at 8% now). Obviously, I can't connect to data 'cause it will automatically start to download.
I want to root though. I know I'm supposed to use PwnMyMoto. However, I know that the OTA breaks root. I've read around all the posts--and I can't seem to find a conclusive way to keep root on the OTA after gaining it; each post I read says something different.
Additional piece of info: I don't care about anything regarding custom ROMs or the bootloader. I intend to keep the stock ROM, but use Xposed.
So, my three questions:
1) Is it okay to root even though the download of the OTA has started?
2) What is the conclusive way to keep root for the OTA?
3) After rooting, how would I go about returning everything back to stock? (I plan on using this phone for a next week or so, then returning it--this is because of the price drops and MotoMaker for Verizon coming out soon; at this stage, I just want to know if this phone is right for me).
Thanks for all the help in advance.

Just boot into Recovery and wipe data\cache and dalvick this will reset your phone. Then resetup your phone, the OTA will come back up, tell the OTA to REMIND you about it, not download it. Then use pwnmymoto to get root, and then just freeze the OTA downloader (MotorolaOTA.apk). Continue to use your phone, customize it with xposed etc etc. When you want to return it, use RSDLite and flash the stock FXZ file to it its totally back to stock again out of the box.

Am I too late?
I have the update on my phone, but would want to root it. I have the moto x on verizon it's not the developers edition.

No need to wipe data. You can root while the download goes then install ROM toolbox and delete the update from your cache and freeze the moto updater.apk and updater.apk to stop the notification. As for.rooting the update I think jcase said install pwnmymoto but don't run it then update. But IMO its not worth it cause if anything gets messed up you get updated and loose the opportunity to root.
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enigmaco said:
I have the update on my phone, but would want to root it. I have the moto x on verizon it's not the developers edition.
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If you installed the update your SOL. If its just downloaded your OK to root.

I ended up not accepting the update. I'm not going to either. If by the time I return this phone I deem it worthy of a replacement for my GNexus--then I'll worry about root and the OTA. This is awesome stuff.

shane1 said:
No need to wipe data. You can root while the download goes then install ROM toolbox and delete the update from your cache and freeze the moto updater.apk and updater.apk to stop the notification. As for.rooting the update I think jcase said install pwnmymoto but don't run it then update. But IMO its not worth it cause if anything gets messed up you get updated and loose the opportunity to root.
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If you installed the update your SOL. If its just downloaded your OK to root.
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Had a feeling oh well missed the boat again.

[Q] How to Unroot my Verizon G2?

I recently rooted my Verizon G2 with ioroot, Android version is currently 4.2.2. Now Verizon keeps pushing to update to 4.4.2, and reminds me every 12 hours to do so. The update fails, and I'm assuming because the phone is rooted. So I guess a couple questions:
(1) Is there a way to prevent it from asking for an update, and I'll just stick with 4.2.2?
(2) How do I "unroot" my phone? Is there a simple way to reverse the process, and also how do I root it when I get to 4.4.2?
Thanks!
EDIT: I saw this guide, just the title didn't sound like it was related to root, but at least I can try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729156
But I'd still like to see if there's a way to stay with 4.2.2 instead, do I really need 4.4.2?

HTWingNut said:
I recently rooted my Verizon G2 with ioroot, Android version is currently 4.2.2. Now Verizon keeps pushing to update to 4.4.2, and reminds me every 12 hours to do so. The update fails, and I'm assuming because the phone is rooted. So I guess a couple questions:
(1) Is there a way to prevent it from asking for an update, and I'll just stick with 4.2.2?
(2) How do I "unroot" my phone? Is there a simple way to reverse the process, and also how do I root it when I get to 4.4.2?
Thanks!
EDIT: I saw this guide, just the title didn't sound like it was related to root, but at least I can try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2729156
But I'd still like to see if there's a way to stay with 4.2.2 instead, do I really need 4.4.2?
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You can use TitaniumBackup and freeze the OTA updater apk. I don't know the exact apk name so hopefully someone can chime in. Also you can do a full unroot by going into the SuperUser app and clicking on Full Unroot. It will do it's thing and you will reboot.
EDIT: I forgot to mention that root does NOT kill the OTA. You most likely have a custom recovery on your phone. That's why it fails. So all you have to do is just freeze the annoying updater apk and you should be good to go.

Thanks! I'll see if I can find the ota updater apk and freeze it.
Beamed from my G2 Tricorder

You could always just flash one of the 4.4.2 stock LG ROMs like Malladus or xdabbebs. If you have a custom recovery that is.

HTWingNut said:
Thanks! I'll see if I can find the ota updater apk and freeze it.
Beamed from my G2 Tricorder
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Please let us know if you find it...I am in the same boat and I cannot find what to freeze either.

System updates MUC 6.4.1.5_E02
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At least in xdabbeb's ROM
Sent from my VS980 4G using Tapatalk

Ok, I think I figured it out. MUC 6.4.1.5_E02 was disabled by default when I upgraded to Titanium Backup Pro.

[Q] 09/08/2014 AT&T Update

Any AT&T users take this update? I don't think I am because I enjoy root too much. I assume this will kill the towelroot exploit.
Update the Software for the LG G Flex (D950)
Update summary
Effective 09/8/2014, AT&T released Android 4.4.2 (Kit Kat) software update for the LG G FLEX. AT&T customers will be able to download the update via FOTA (firmware over the air). You must update to one of the last 3 updates to receive this update.
What's changing?
Latest Android security patches
LG Music Player update
G Watch compatibility updates
APN update
What to expect after the update
Although there should be no impacts to settings or data, we recommend that you back up your important files and media prior to upgrading the software.
I didn't see this mentioned in any of the current threads, sorry if this has already been discussed....

I took the update but i was stock to begin with. I was wondering what changed thanks for posting
HIT EM WIT DAT FLEX

I searched and also did not find anything other than this thread. The update came through last night but I have put it off as well. I am rooted and running xposed and would prefer not to lose this.

yep, i just got the update,took, it, and cant update cause im rooted. oh well

dont be so sure mine updated on its own while in my pocket an got stuck in twrp bootloop
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just sayin be careful

Phone_Junkie said:
I searched and also did not find anything other than this thread. The update came through last night but I have put it off as well. I am rooted and running xposed and would prefer not to lose this.
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I'm with you. Not going to apply it. Can't seem to get rid of the "software update is available" notification.... Any tricks for this?
Update....
Seems it attempted to install itself last night when plugged in. It failed, said I was rooted *gasp* and now the notification is gone Hurrah!

bryanizmir said:
I'm with you. Not going to apply it. Can't seem to get rid of the "software update is available" notification.... Any tricks for this?
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The only thing that I know of is that it will not update if the battery is low. LOL. Other than that, I do not know how to stop it as I understand updates are forced after denying them 3 times. I could be wrong.
Sent from my LG-D950 using Tapatalk

Got the notification this morning and denied it. Froze the OTA in Titanium Backup so it didn't try and apply the update later.

I tried to update, but I got an error saying my phone was suspected of being Rooted.

has anyone un-rooted and then installed the update and then rooted it again?
*********ALSO********** Could someone upload the new APN Settings ? either in this thread or a new one?

I'm rooted but stock and took the update fine and keep the root... Luck maybe?

Same here @yuckycool. It auto updated, but root persisted.

Auto update and kept root as well. Towelroot method everything else stock.
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BigBison420 said:
has anyone un-rooted and then installed the update and then rooted it again?
*********ALSO********** Could someone upload the new APN Settings ? either in this thread or a new one?
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backing up my data, going back stock,taking the OTA,then will attempt to re-root.

podagee said:
backing up my data, going back stock,taking the OTA,then will attempt to re-root.
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I successfully went back to stock, then rooted with iroot, and immediately took the ota update. Root confirmed retained and working.

BigBison420 said:
has anyone un-rooted and then installed the update and then rooted it again?
*********ALSO********** Could someone upload the new APN Settings ? either in this thread or a new one?
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New APN

one thing ive noticed after taking the update is that my wifi connects a lot better and faster. before i had a hard time connecting to my router. also i stayed stock(un-rooted) because i get way better battery life being stock,... dont know why.

I cant upgrate my G Flex D950 to kitkat
Hi guy, i need help to upgrade my g flex D950, when i trying to do it manually, the system show me a screen saying "Your device is not registered yet."
anyone can help me please?
thanks and i appreciate your assitence.
kind regards

My device is not registered yet.
bryanizmir said:
Any AT&T users take this update? I don't think I am because I enjoy root too much. I assume this will kill the towelroot exploit.
Update the Software for the LG G Flex (D950)
Update summary
Effective 09/8/2014, AT&T released Android 4.4.2 (Kit Kat) software update for the LG G FLEX. AT&T customers will be able to download the update via FOTA (firmware over the air). You must update to one of the last 3 updates to receive this update.
What's changing?
Latest Android security patches
LG Music Player update
G Watch compatibility updates
APN update
What to expect after the update
Although there should be no impacts to settings or data, we recommend that you back up your important files and media prior to upgrading the software.
I didn't see this mentioned in any of the current threads, sorry if this has already been discussed....
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Hi man, can you help me with something with my g flex d950 ? when im try upgrate it, the device show me a screen saying "Your device is not registered yet." can you help me with this ?

YoungC27 said:
Hi man, can you help me with something with my g flex d950 ? when im try upgrate it, the device show me a screen saying "Your device is not registered yet." can you help me with this ?
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sdcard error. had that with my lg g2. get a new sim card and factory reset it should be fine after. sucks but thats the only way i found to fix it

[Q&A] Root z1s on 4.4.4 + Deodex

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Hey there! I encountered errors after doing your tutorial, but I was able to fix some errors such as a non-loading YouTube app and SnapChat giving an "internal" error. But I am not able to fix the "No Connection" problem on Google Play after. Is there anyway to fix this?
EDIT: I got it fixed following a tutorial from androidcentral! I am filled with glee right now!
Here is the tutorial.
Unfortunately, No connection - retry in Play Store can mean lots of things.
Another solution that you might like to try involves the creation of a new Google account (this worked for me because I did not want to perform a Factory Reset): -
Close Play Store if it is open.
Click on the following options in turn:
Settings -> Applications -> Manage applications -> All -> Google Play Store -> Clear Data -> OK
Settings -> Accounts and sync -> Add account -> Google -> Next -> Create
Follow the prompts to set up a new Google account.
Start Play Store. Once you have accepted the licence agreement, Play Store should now connect to the Internet and start working again.
Press the Menu button then select Accounts and pick your old Google account from the list (this will restore your installed applications and purchases).
Unfortunately, your Android applications will now be associated with the new Google Account.
You can manually open any applications (GMail, GTalk/Hangouts, etc.) associated with the new Google Account and configure them to use the old one.

Rooting Sony Xperia Z1s
It's stuck at "creating vm"

nicoivan446 said:
It's stuck at "creating vm"
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unplug your device, then reconnect it and run tool again

rain_effect said:
unplug your device, then reconnect it and run tool again
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hi rain_effect, I've done that and also rebooted my phone and laptop. it's still stuck in "creating vm"

nicoivan446 said:
hi rain_effect, I've done that and also rebooted my phone and laptop. it's still stuck in "creating vm"
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hi, sorry for slow reply, i'm very busy this time. Which rom version are u using? this root method can root version 14.4.B.0.37, not latest version. So if you want to root, flash back to 14.4.B.0.37. I think this cannot root latest version because new version have new kernel version

Late to the Party
I had all but given up on rooting my C6916 runing 4.4.4.
However I am on build 14.4.B.0.56. I see nothing here about it. Am I just out of luck?
Could I use the Flash tool and there instruction here: double-U X3 .waledacdroid.com/2014/11/how-to-root-sony-xperia-z1-c6902-c6903.html
and then just download 14.4.B.0.37 and flash it and root it in one swoop?
HELP!
-JD

LordZaos said:
I had all but given up on rooting my C6916 runing 4.4.4.
However I am on build 14.4.B.0.56. I see nothing here about it. Am I just out of luck?
Could I use the Flash tool and there instruction here: double-U X3 .waledacdroid.com/2014/11/how-to-root-sony-xperia-z1-c6902-c6903.html
and then just download 14.4.B.0.37 and flash it and root it in one swoop?
HELP!
-JD
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flash .37 and root using instruction on #1, dont update to .56

rain_effect said:
flash .37 and root using instruction on #1, dont update to .56
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Really, why not? I flashed back to .36, rooted and upgraded back to .56 and still having my root...
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Dude it took me all sunday to figure it out lol. i was in the same position as you. I downloaded the C6916_14.4.B.0.37_T-Mobile.ftf update file. then used the flash tool to downgrade my .56 to .37. then i rooted it using the towel method inside the flash tool. the xperia told me to update back to .56, I hesitated for a while then said fuuu itt and went for it. im on .56 rooted.

KruptWorld said:
Really, why not? I flashed back to .36, rooted and upgraded back to .56 and still having my root...
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Dude it took me all sunday to figure it out lol. i was in the same position as you. I downloaded the C6916_14.4.B.0.37_T-Mobile.ftf update file. then used the flash tool to downgrade my .56 to .37. then i rooted it using the towel method inside the flash tool. the xperia told me to update back to .56, I hesitated for a while then said fuuu itt and went for it. im on .56 rooted.
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I mean dont update to .56 before root. Sorry, i said not clearly :crying:

Hey guys where can I download Recovery Z1 Locked Bootloader ? I´m trying to root a Z1s link seems to be down: http://click.xda-developers.com/api/click?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_14230685509447&key=f0a7f91912ae2b52e0700f73990eb321&libId=a11b0a42-8c9c-475a-a87c-1e2858a7d326&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.xda-developers.com%2Fxperia-z1%2Fdevelopment%2Froot-z1s-4-4-4-t2839990&v=1&out=http%3A%2F%2Fnut.xperia-files.com%2Fdownload.php%3Fdlid%3DWjEtbG9ja2VkZHVhbHJlY292ZXJ5Mi43LjE1NC1CRVRBLmluc3RhbGxlci56aXA%3D&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com.mx%2F&title=Root%20z1s%20on%204.4.4%20%2B%20Deodex%20%7C%20Sony%20Xperia%20Z1%20%7C%20XDA%20Forums&txt=Install%20Recovery

Downgrade from .56 to .37
KruptWorld said:
Really, why not? I flashed back to .36, rooted and upgraded back to .56 and still having my root...
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Dude it took me all sunday to figure it out lol. i was in the same position as you. I downloaded the C6916_14.4.B.0.37_T-Mobile.ftf update file. then used the flash tool to downgrade my .56 to .37. then i rooted it using the towel method inside the flash tool. the xperia told me to update back to .56, I hesitated for a while then said fuuu itt and went for it. im on .56 rooted.
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Hi, I can't seem to find a way to flash down to .37. I'm in the same boat you were in. Any help?

enieh said:
Hi, I can't seem to find a way to flash down to .37. I'm in the same boat you were in. Any help?
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here's the tool: http://www.flashtool.net/downloads.php
here's the how to: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=45187952&postcount=2
here's the file: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2469191
I just finished rooting and updating back to .56
good luck, cheers.
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lordsith1138 said:
Hey guys where can I download Recovery Z1 Locked Bootloader ? I´m trying to root a Z1s link seems to be down: http://click.xda-developers.com/api/click?format=go&jsonp=vglnk_14230685509447&key=f0a7f91912ae2b52e0700f73990eb321&libId=a11b0a42-8c9c-475a-a87c-1e2858a7d326&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.xda-developers.com%2Fxperia-z1%2Fdevelopment%2Froot-z1s-4-4-4-t2839990&v=1&out=http%3A%2F%2Fnut.xperia-files.com%2Fdownload.php%3Fdlid%3DWjEtbG9ja2VkZHVhbHJlY292ZXJ5Mi43LjE1NC1CRVRBLmluc3RhbGxlci56aXA%3D&ref=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com.mx%2F&title=Root%20z1s%20on%204.4.4%20%2B%20Deodex%20%7C%20Sony%20Xperia%20Z1%20%7C%20XDA%20Forums&txt=Install%20Recovery
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NOT BROKEN, click at "HERE" at the bottom of page

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How do i update my root?

I am completely new to rooting, my friend rooted my tablet for me.
SO how do i update the root that was just released.
EDIT: Basically i want to update my rom, and i have literally no idea how to do it

Erm what root that was just released? And what does it do differently?

Pond-life said:
Erm what root that was just released? And what does it do differently?
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i meant firmware, my bad i am new to this

He's new to rooting. He likely means something else. Maybe update the OS.
Once you have root, there is no need to update it. As long as your root didn't get removed by an amazon OS update.
Do you know if your friend blocked "OTA" (forced amazon OS updates)? What OS version are you on?
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One you are rooted, you do not want to just update the amazon OS, aka system, aka firmware. Often an "update" does nothing more than lock you out from rooting or installing custom roms. Unless you know that an "update" actually has something you want & you're sure it won't remove your root / lock you out, then do not update.

blueberry.sky said:
He's new to rooting. He likely means something else. Maybe update the OS.
Once you have root, there is no need to update it. As long as your root didn't get removed by an amazon OS update.
Do you know if your friend blocked "OTA" (forced amazon OS updates)? What OS version are you on?
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One you are rooted, you do not want to just update the amazon OS, aka system, aka firmware. Often an "update" does nothing more than lock you out from rooting or installing custom roms. Unless you know that an "update" actually has something you want & you're sure it won't remove your root / lock you out, then do not update.
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It is on 5.1.1
kernal version 3.1.0.54+
i am not sure if the ota are off or not
edit: i found in the developer options for cyanogenmod updates, and i turned that on. i dont know what to do from there

atayal said:
It is on 5.1.1
kernal version 3.1.0.54+
i am not sure if the ota are off or not
edit: i found in the developer options for cyanogenmod updates, and i turned that on. i dont know what to do from there
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hang on you are running cyanogenmod rather than stock rom?
That won't ota update think you'd need to get the files from the CM thread and install how they say there.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/orig-development/rom-cm-12-1-2015-11-15-t3249416