[Q] UK HTC Fast Charger vs US Rapid Charger 2.0 - One (M8) Accessories

HTC on its official UK website has the Fast Charger for sale but not the Rapid Charger 2.0 its 15w and looks similar to the Rapid Charger 2.0 but doesn't have the certified by Qualcomm stamp on the side. Does anyone know if it performs the same?
Fast Charger:
http://shop.emea.htc.com/uk/p_htc_store_product.aspx?i=270537
Rapid Charger 2.0:
http://www.htc.com/uk/accessories/#!pid=htc-one-m8&acc=htc-rapid-charger-2
Also why is it so difficult to get certified Quick Charge 2.0 chargers in the Uk?

I have the fast charger and it has the QC 2.0 certification logo...
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th3 said:
I have the fast charger and it has the QC 2.0 certification logo...
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Does it actually work, though? I don't have issues with battery life but it's nice to know

Yes, it works perfectly as advertised. See: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2798412
(Quickcharge 2.0 Chargers)
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Sorry, bit confused -0 are we saying this: Fast Charger:
http://shop.emea.htc.com/uk/p_htc_store_product.aspx?i=270537
is the UK version of this: http://www.htc.com/uk/accessories/#!pid=htc-one-m8&acc=htc-rapid-charger-2
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[Q] Does HTC One support BC 1.1 fast charging?

Hi!
Does HTC One support fast charging BC 1.1?
ToddeSwe said:
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Does HTC One support fast charging BC 1.1?
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What's BC 1.1? The One charges at 1000mA from an AC charger and 500mA from a USB port. If you have a custom kernel with fast charge support, you can charge from a USB port st 900mA.
But watch out, its been mentioned that fast charging can melt your charging port.
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I guess not then
Just bought a new motherboard that supported this.

USB Fast Charger

Seeing as the M8 supports fast charging, but the charger in the box is the standard 5v/1amp charger, would anyone know if the new Google charger would work for fast charge?
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_Charging_Accessory?id=nexus_charging_accessory
It's 9w/1.8amp output. I have one and was thinking of getting an M8 so it's something I could keep to use if I do get one
(If this should be in Q&A please move it, but thought it might be handy for anyone looking for a fast charger from a reputable brand should it work)
EddyOS said:
Seeing as the M8 supports fast charging, but the charger in the box is the standard 5v/1amp charger, would anyone know if the new Google charger would work for fast charge?
https://play.google.com/store/devices/details/Nexus_Charging_Accessory?id=nexus_charging_accessory
It's 9w/1.8amp output. I have one and was thinking of getting an M8 so it's something I could keep to use if I do get one
(If this should be in Q&A please move it, but thought it might be handy for anyone looking for a fast charger from a reputable brand should it work)
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This is a great charger for our device and much cheaper.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004OZMWUS/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
shojus said:
This is a great charger for our device and much cheaper.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004OZMWUS/ref=oh_details_o06_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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My M8 was getting very warm using this charger, is yours?
Not that I have noticed but I'll keep an eye out when I get mine back. It does charge everything I own quick as hell though.
They're supposed to be releasing a quick charge 2.0 compatible charger for our device soon that's supposedly is pretty good. I find my phone charges much faster than my DNA as that thing had a slow charge mode that was brutal.
I have a few red band charge only cables that charge the phone fairly quickly.
The charger that came with my htc M8 says 1.5A on the back of it. It charges the phone pretty fast compared to others I have used. I did try to use my samsung charger that is 2.0A but I noticed the phone got warm. Definitely not hot to the touch but enough for me to not really want to ust again and stick to the stock charger.
The charger that came in my box was 1.5A.
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The stock HTC charger is 1.5 amps, or at least the ones in the UK are.
While the phone can take 2 amp charge, by doing so you will heat the battery up much more on each charge, and this extra heat will reduce the charge cycles of the battery(life of the battery), not really the best thing to do on a phone that can't have it's battery replaced.
I've got a 2 amp charger for the car, as when I use that I tend to need power fast, but I have my phone mount on my aircon vent so the phone is kept very cool even if using google maps while fast charging at 2 amps.
How do you tell if a charger has Quick Charge or not?
Apparently the one that comes in the box with the HTC One M8 has Quick Charger 1.0 but I'm looking at the charger now and there is nothing on there to say that it has this feature
I would like to buy another one as a spare to put in a different location to charge without having to take my charger with it but I don't know how to tell if it has it or not before buying it without getting it and actually plugging it in and using it
M8 has quickcharge 2.0 but no 2.0 compliant chargers have been released, the stock charger uses quickcharge 1 technology, HTC is panning to release a qc 2.0 compiant charger later this year.
What's the difference between the Samsung 3.0
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What's the difference between the Samsung 3.0
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What do you mean by Samsung 3.0 :S
You're not talking about USB 3.0 are you?
Then yes the Samsung Galaxy S5 does have USB 3.0
USB 3.0 is just a faster way to transfer data and as far as I'm aware the charging speeds are still the same standard speed
You do need to have a USB 3.0 cable and a supporting device (USB 3.0 port) to utilise it the faster transfer speed
BUT in saying that the Galaxy S5 does have the same chip as the HTC One M8 as far as I'm aware so I would imagine it would have the Quick Charge 2.0 function as well but whether or not the phone has it enabled or comes with a Quick Charger I'm not sure
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Just did some research
Turns out USB 3.0 standard port has a current of 900mA while USB 2.0 is 500mA so the power current on a USB 3.0 has also increased
TieNN89 said:
What do you mean by Samsung 3.0 :S
You're not talking about USB 3.0 are you?
Then yes the Samsung Galaxy S5 does have USB 3.0
USB 3.0 is just a faster way to transfer data and as far as I'm aware the charging speeds are still the same standard speed
You do need to have a USB 3.0 cable and a supporting device (USB 3.0 port) to utilise it the faster transfer speed
BUT in saying that the Galaxy S5 does have the same chip as the HTC One M8 as far as I'm aware so I would imagine it would have the Quick Charge 2.0 function as well but whether or not the phone has it enabled or comes with a Quick Charger I'm not sure
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Just did some research
Turns out USB 3.0 standard port has a current of 900mA while USB 2.0 is 500mA so the power current on a USB 3.0 has also increased
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The Galaxy S5 also has a different charging cable, but can still be used with standard micro usb as well. I was amazed at how fast my gf's phone charged with the stock S5 cable and wall charger.
Can you you use the Samsung charger cable on the htc one. I've tried other chargers and I get the slow charge warning
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Jr6278 said:
Can you you use the Samsung charger cable on the htc one. I've tried other chargers and I get the slow charge warning
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Was thinking the same thing, i tried my S4's charger which has 2amps and it works
Jr6278 said:
Can you you use the Samsung charger cable on the htc one. I've tried other chargers and I get the slow charge warning
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Not the one with the s5 but any of their earlier cables would fit our M8's.
Hey guys, for the ones that asked I have got the Google nexus fast charger and it is not fantastic. Takes 1,5 hour to charge from 5 to 100%.
I was quite desapointed. This is incredible I can't find any quick charge 2.0 charger anywhere, did someone do ?
The compatible charger must have a qualcomm quick charge logo, they said.
When is htc releasing the 2.0 charger
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Htc will release the charger when they release the charger. Patience.
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crustyeye said:
Htc will release the charger when they release the charger. Patience.
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agreed, patience is a virtue my friend

let's talk chargers

so i need to get a new charger for my office....and with quick charge 2.0 coming out...are there any compatible chargers out there yet for sale? obviously its not yet supported on the phone, but would rather buy 1 charger now, versus one now, one later.
if not, can anyone recommend a good charger that will hit the stock values? i think its 1.5?
I believe it is supported already by the phone. It's about hardware not software I believe...
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Yes, the M8 supports it, but HTC did not include a charger in the box for it, though they are coming out with it later.
I think, if I read the spec sheet correctly, that Quick Charge 2.0 supports 4A and higher? A 5 second search on Amazon only shows a 2.4A charger, but yeah I haven't seen too many above 2.1A.
ekabon said:
I believe it is supported already by the phone. It's about hardware not software I believe...
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aha, i got it backwards.
thanks
raichur0xx0rz said:
Yes, the M8 supports it, but HTC did not include a charger in the box for it, though they are coming out with it later.
I think, if I read the spec sheet correctly, that Quick Charge 2.0 supports 4A and higher? A 5 second search on Amazon only shows a 2.4A charger, but yeah I haven't seen too many above 2.1A.
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phone comes with a 1.5a , 2.0 is 1.67a
However HTC's bundled charger, a 1.5A unit, only supports Quick Charge 1.0. So it'll still be pretty fast — significantly faster than what you're used to if you're coming from last year's HTC One (M7). But for the full Quick Charge 2.0 experience you'll need to wait for a charger accessory HTC plans to release later this year, which will support 1.67A as well as the latest Quick Charge standard.
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minieod said:
phone comes with a 1.5a , 2.0 is 1.67a
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I believe that quote from AC is meaning that HTC's charger will be 1.67A, which really isn't going to be much of a difference from the 1.5A block included. QC 2.0 should support much greater than that, at least according to Qualcomm. A 2.1A or 2.4A charger is probably your best bet for now until higher output chargers come out =\

any benefit using 2amp charger ?

Hi, im just wondering is there any benefit using a 2amp charger on the htc m8 , faster charging ? i know HTC are gonna release a faster charger which is 1.67amp , is it just the amp or it has some feature Quick Charge 2.0 built in you cant get with other chargers ?
the HTC One is rated to support Quick Charge 2.0 capable of accepting up to 60 watts of power – an increase of almost 100% compared to phones with Quick Charge 1.0. The 1.5amp charger bundled with the HTC One (M8), however, does not support Quick Charge 2.0. HTC is planning on releasing an optional 1.67amp charger accessory that will come with the technology later this year
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Yeah, it will charge a bit faster.
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Tikerz said:
Yeah, it will charge a bit faster.
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Would it be safe though? Cause I heard someone was using a third party charger on 2.0 and the guy said it was heating up like hell
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ekabon said:
Would it be safe though? Cause I heard someone was using a third party charger on 2.0 and the guy said it was heating up like hell
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I've used the 2.0A charger that came with my Galaxy S4 and didn't really notice the phone heating up to unusual temps.
You can use a 10A charger if you have one (and it works with your power outlet), the phone should never draw more than the maximum it draws.
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I would really like to hear from someone who's actually used one with our phone model. Thanks
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ekabon said:
I would really like to hear from someone who's actually used one with our phone model. Thanks
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I originally used the charger I got with my M8, but then switched to a 2.5amp charger. According to GSam, my time to charge from around 80% to full is around 15 mins, but with the original charger, it was around 30 mins.
So from my experience, it does charge faster. From what I have read about QC2, the technology is in the processor in the phone. The charger can be any type, as long as it is able to deliver up to 60 watts.
See here - http://www.zdnet.com/qualcomms-quick-charge-2-0-offers-75-percent-faster-charging-7000026519/
The tech is actually in both the phone AND the wall charger:
From http://www.qualcomm.com/chipsets/quick-charge
"While Quick Charge 1.0 rests in the devices only, Quick Charge 2.0 resides in both the device, offered as a standalone IC solution or as part of the PMIC (power management integrated circuit) of Snapdragon™ 800 processors, and in the AC/DC wall charger."
The one you link is worded a little ambiguously:
"Qualcomm hopes to take things further by integrating Quick Charge 2.0 technology into standard micro-USB AC/DC wall chargers. These chargers will look and work like standard chargers, but will be able to deliver Quick Charge to compatible devices."
I tripped on it a couple times when reading it too, but it's implying that the tech does not currently reside in standard chargers, since they're still working on integrating it.
guess i will get the HTC fast charger when out and i bet we should get compatible quick charge 2.0 chargers too
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The amperage of the charger makes no difference, the device will only ever draw the power it requires to charge, no more. so a 5a charger would be no different to a 2a charger if the phone only draws 1.5a for example. find out what the device needs to charge and get as close as you can to that size for protection reasons
uscool said:
Hi, im just wondering is there any benefit using a 2amp charger on the htc m8 , faster charging ? i know HTC are gonna release a faster charger which is 1.67amp , is it just the amp or it has some feature Quick Charge 2.0 built in you cant get with other chargers ?
the HTC One is rated to support Quick Charge 2.0 capable of accepting up to 60 watts of power – an increase of almost 100% compared to phones with Quick Charge 1.0. The 1.5amp charger bundled with the HTC One (M8), however, does not support Quick Charge 2.0. HTC is planning on releasing an optional 1.67amp charger accessory that will come with the technology later this year
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ekabon said:
Would it be safe though? Cause I heard someone was using a third party charger on 2.0 and the guy said it was heating up like hell
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Yes, it will charge it faster. I used my 2amp charger and it did charge it faster. The phone may have some protection built in to protect the phones hardware. But the battery can handle much higher charge rates and the battery shouldn't start heating up till 20-30 amps. Yes, that's right.
I use Li-poly to race electric RC's and we charge them up to 50 amps. This charger will --->http://www.hobbyking.com/hobbyking/store/__46368__iCharger_308DUO_1300W_Dual_Channel_8s_Balance_Charger.html
Most people only charge at 5-10 amps, but to get peak performance, you will need to create a bit of heat and that doesn't happen till 20-30 amps.
Since I jumped from my old note 3tothe m8 I was able to keep the charger and it's a 2A one. Will I get the full 2.0 benefits with it or must I wait for the HTC one?
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PunishedSnake said:
Since I jumped from my old note 3tothe m8 I was able to keep the charger and it's a 2A one. Will I get the full 2.0 benefits with it or must I wait for the HTC one?
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You will get whatever amp the M8 can take. i assume its 2A
I have a 2amp charger and i use it for my M8. i only see about a 30 min different from using a 1amp charger.
Its not just Amps, quickcharge 2.0 Also bumps up voltage. I tested multiple combinations with my htc one M8, here are my findings:
Quickcharge 2.0 18W Aukey (with regular micro usb cable): 9v/1.1A (~10w)
Quickcharge 2.0 18W Aukey (with data cut off cable): 5v/1.52A (~7.5w)
Wall 5v 2.4A charger: 5v/1.52A (~7.5w)
Stock 5v 1A charger: 5v/0.99A (~5w)
Car 5v 2A charger: 5v/1.3A (~6.5w)
some old 5v 700mA charger: 5v/0.7A (~3.5w)
MacBook Air USB port (2013) (with regular micro usb cable): 5v/500mA (~2.5w)
MacBook Air USB port (2013)(with data cut off cable): 5v/1A (~5w)
Ipad charger rated 5.2V/2.3A : 5v/1A (~5w) (no clue why its so sucky)
Also I noticed m8 once connected to charger (non Quickcharge 2.0) slowly increases charge current. if voltage drops below 4.92v it drops it back to these fixed values, whichever is immediate lower: 3oomA, 500mA, 700mA, 1A, 1.3A, 1.42A. 1.52A
these values are as per multimeters.
my car charger is tricky, it sometimes just falls to 1A instead of 1.3 as it border lines V to 4.92 while at 1.3Amps. (it is rated for 2.4A)
Dude... This thread you replied to is a YEAR old!
This has already been heavily discussed in newer threads.
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Have quick charge 2.0 disabled?
I tried plugging it into a nexus 6 charger and a qc2.0 car charger and nothing.....just normal charge rate
Mine works great. Bought the Anker wall charger and works so far
Can you post a link?
I bought this bundle, and it's working great for me.
PunishedSnake said:
Can you post a link?
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Sorry I just saw your post. But I bought this charger
Anker® 18W USB Wall Charger with Qualcomm® Quick Charge 2.0 Technol... http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00Q88Q16K/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_AKBvvb1C612M3
I can also verify that this one works fine. http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00V9ELOAQ?psc=1 Probably one of the least expensive too.
I'm also using my nexus 6 charger. I don't have a quick charge notification but it does seem to work.
grim489 said:
I'm also using my nexus 6 charger. I don't have a quick charge notification but it does seem to work.
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theres a notification?
On the nexus isn't there? Or maybe the s6. How it tells you it's quick charging. And there isn't on the m9
I bought the HTC branded quick charger and definitely see a huge increase in speed with it. No notification but insanely fast charging
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HTC device do not have a quick charge notification like a few others. You just have to make sure that the charger you got is Quick Charge 2.0 certified and you should be good to go. There are quite a few quick charge 2.0 charging accessories out there now. My favorite is the Aukey car charger which charges my phone about 5 times faster than the old car charger that I've owned for five years. Makes a huge difference, especially when you have only 15-20 minutes in the car.
http://androidandme.com/2015/05/dev...ccessories-for-your-android-phone-and-tablet/
Have you guys noticed decreased battery life after using a quick charger?

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