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[Q] T-MO (N900T) or Intl. (N9005) ? for use on AT&T

I understand that the T-Mo version has its many advantages of having its unlocked bootloader, DEV support, SIM unlock, etc...
Price point aside, are there any major advantages/disadvantages between purchasing the T-Mo(N900T) or the Intl version (N9005)?
Every stat comparison seems to be similar, ROM support and all the freq bands are there.
Looking for some definitive answers from the community before spending big bucks on a new unit.

Jayster0966 said:
I understand that the T-Mo version has its many advantages of having its unlocked bootloader, DEV support, SIM unlock, etc...
Price point aside, are there any major advantages/disadvantages between purchasing the T-Mo(N900T) or the Intl version (N9005)?
Every stat comparison seems to be similar, ROM support and all the freq bands are there.
Looking for some definitive answers from the community before spending big bucks on a new unit.
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You wont get LTE with the international version

barondebxl said:
You wont get LTE with the international version
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I must be missing something then. According to the description on NegriElectronics it shows one model (N9005) as a 32g LTE model?

Jayster0966 said:
I must be missing something then. According to the description on NegriElectronics it shows one model (N9005) as a 32g LTE model?
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Yes, check the 4G LTE bands

barondebxl said:
Yes, check the 4G LTE bands
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Got you. DUH Thanks for pointing that out. :silly:

Jayster0966 said:
I understand that the T-Mo version has its many advantages of having its unlocked bootloader, DEV support, SIM unlock, etc...
Price point aside, are there any major advantages/disadvantages between purchasing the T-Mo(N900T) or the Intl version (N9005)?
Every stat comparison seems to be similar, ROM support and all the freq bands are there.
Looking for some definitive answers from the community before spending big bucks on a new unit.
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TMO for me and working flawlessly.

Earthdog said:
TMO for me and working flawlessly.
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On my way to the T-MO store then. :fingers-crossed:
Just so I get this straight,
1. Purchase the N900T.
2. Purchase a $10 or $20 SIM card. (then insert it and use the phone) Required?
3. Bring it home and use the service on CellUnlocker.net
4. Wait for the unlock codes then ENJOY! (Change APN settings)
Optional;
Follow the rooting/recovery guides in the T-Mo thread.

If you buy the phone outright tmo will unlock it for you
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agent929 said:
If you buy the phone outright tmo will unlock it for you
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They do it after 45 days. Just asked a tmo corporate store today.
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Jayster0966 said:
Got you. DUH Thanks for pointing that out. :silly:
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Lol no worries. Just get the T-mobile version and you'll be just fine. I unlocked mine for cellunlocker.net ( well technically i havent unlocked it yet as i am waiting for my note 3 to be delivered but i got the unlock code ready to go).

I walked into a T-Mobile store day after they released the phone. Bought it full retail without purchasing a plan or a sim. Went home and unlocked it using cellunlocker. Now I am using it on AT&T with LTE. Also rooted and a custom rom is installed.
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GallardosEggrollShop said:
I walked into a T-Mobile store day after they released the phone. Bought it full retail without purchasing a plan or a sim. Went home and unlocked it using cellunlocker. Now I am using it on AT&T with LTE. Also rooted and a custom rom is installed.
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How's your experience with the device? How's your LTE speeds? Is the phone getting very hot?

GallardosEggrollShop said:
I walked into a T-Mobile store day after they released the phone. Bought it full retail without purchasing a plan or a sim. Went home and unlocked it using cellunlocker. Now I am using it on AT&T with LTE. Also rooted and a custom rom is installed.
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Thanks for the update on that. You did not have to put a T-Mo SIM first? I thought that was required for the region unlock issue?
How are the actual LTE speeds? Others have mentioned a drop in speeds due to AT&T not giving top priority to the T-Mo IMEI.
barondebxl said:
How's your experience with the device? How's your LTE speeds? Is the phone getting very hot?
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+1 on this question. How is the signal strength as well compared to a true AT&T phone in the same area?

Galaxy Note 3 Active
I was in the T-Mo store today looking at the Note 3. Ready and willing to go ahead and pull the trigger, then the rep says they are all out of the white one. They will have more in by the end of the week. Then mentions, they do have some at another store about 5 miles away though. He looks at me looking all disappointed and says, have you heard the rumor about the N3 active? No, I said. He says, if you can wait to get a new phone you might want to read up as it looks like Samsung is going to be going ahead with the release very soon.
http://androidcommunity.com/samsung-galaxy-s5-and-galaxy-note-3-active-models-tipped-20131007/
Now so confused, I think I have to wait and see what developes.

mehdi_s82 said:
They do it after 45 days. Just asked a tmo corporate store today.
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That's compete crap. I can't believe they would do that to you. I was under the impression they had to if you bought it outright. Perhaps you'll have to get an unlock code elsewhere.
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Im confused
I'm on net10 using att network in the US and contacted negri about a n900t they are selling but in the notes on their website it says for international use only.. I thought the n900t was t-mobile version in the US? I asked them about it and they said it will not work in the US. I am confused?

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I'm on net10 using att network in the US and contacted negri about a n900t they are selling but in the notes on their website it says for international use only.. I thought the n900t was t-mobile version in the US? I asked them about it and they said it will not work in the US. I am confused?
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It's because their stock of N900T's have been blacklisted by US carriers. Meaning they were obtained from the gray market. T-Mobile and AT&T have a database of IMEI's that are blocked from their network.

N900T vs N900A
I was reading the thread and was wondering why folks would prefer to buy the N900T vs N900A (especially when they are planning to use if for AT&T and will be required to unlock immediately)? Is there hardware/software advantages for the N900T over the N900A?

I'll add my 2 cents on this. I had originally purchased the T-Mobile variant (N900T) of the Note 3. I loaded up a custom rom and it was perfect. Shortly after that, I noticed my LTE signal (not HSPA) would be very low (-110dbm) in areas where my AT&T branded phones would sit on -94dbm. I flashed back to stock and noticed the same thing. Overall, LTE reception on band 17 on the N900T was very poor. Its probably because the N900T isn't optimized to use Band 17. Using the device with T-Mobile service, I had no LTE issues.
Now using the N900A for AT&T and get great LTE reception.

A buddy of mine has also noticed the TMO Note3 gets a lower reception when compared to my ATT note3. We are both on ATT as well.
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Software Question

Sorry if this isn't the right pace to ask this but I posted on another forum and didn't get an answer. I have a t-mobile HTC One that I recently switched over to straight talk. I'm now using an At&t sim. I have a few questions about this. First, who will I received future updates through, t -mobile or At&t? Also, it looks like I'm still running the same T-Mobile software with their apps and settings even though my service is through At&t. Is that how it's supposed to be?
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You are still carrier branded. You will receive updates through t-mobile. If you want to get rid of these apps simply root your device.

Marc199 said:
You are still carrier branded. You will receive updates through t-mobile. If you want to get rid of these apps simply root your device.
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So you think TMO is going to push the updates over the ATT network? How does that work? Or are the updates pushed directly from HTC?

HTC only pushes updates to unbranded devices. The providers push the updates to their devices. Since you bought your phone from t-mobile, you will get updates from them. That is why you have these t-mobile apps. Your new provider won't affect your OS or your firmware. You have just access to their network through your At&t SIM.

Marc199 said:
HTC only pushes updates to unbranded devices. The providers push the updates to their devices. Since you bought your phone from t-mobile, you will get updates from them. That is why you have these t-mobile apps. Your new provider won't affect your OS or your firmware. You have just access to their network through your At&t SIM.
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I hope the OP updates this thread when 4.4 happens... To confirm what happens.
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stevedebi said:
I hope the OP updates this thread when 4.4 happens... To confirm what happens.
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Yeah I'll post what happens once I get 4.4. I can't believe I wasn't able to find an answer about this anywhere online. It just doesn't sound right that T-mobile would be able to send me an update if I'm not on their network, but I don't know much about this kind of stuff so I'm probably wrong.

nav525 said:
Yeah I'll post what happens once I get 4.4. I can't believe I wasn't able to find an answer about this anywhere online. It just doesn't sound right that T-mobile would be able to send me an update if I'm not on their network, but I don't know much about this kind of stuff so I'm probably wrong.
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I almost posted that I doubt it would work, but then it occurred to me that the About/Update menu may actually go to a URL to check for updates, in which case it would work. However, I don't think that TMO will be able to push the update to your phone, because I think that would require them having your IMEI active on their servers.
Looking forward to your post (not least because it means I'll then have KitKat)!

(Q) Buying a Nexus 6 at T-mobile to use at Verizon

Since the Nexus 6 US version is the same across all carriers, couldn't someone from Verizon buy a phone at T-mobile off contract and use it on verizon with a pre-existing Verizon sim?

rester555 said:
Since the Nexus 6 US version is the same across all carriers, couldn't someone from Verizon buy a phone at T-mobile off contract and use it on verizon with a pre-existing Verizon sim?
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No. Well you could but version probably won't authorize devices if the imei is not in their database.
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monkeypaws said:
No
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Why not? All signs point to T-Mobile selling the Nexus 6 without any kind of SIM lock, so you should be able to pop in a Verizon SIM in the Nexus 6 you get from T-Mobile and it will probably work.

Probly not. But wait and see.

dualityim said:
Why not? All signs point to T-Mobile selling the Nexus 6 without any kind of SIM lock, so you should be able to pop in a Verizon SIM in the Nexus 6 you get from T-Mobile and it will probably work.
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People are saying that the T-mobile version IMEI's won't be on VZW's whitelist, but unlocked versions are.
However, no one really knows, it's an assumption based on past knowledge.

Joshnor713 said:
People are saying that the T-mobile version IMEI's won't be on VZW's whitelist, but unlocked versions are.
However, no one really knows, it's an assumption based on past knowledge.
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We had this debate in another thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/cdma-carriers-buying-nexus-6-consider-t2922642
The consensus seems to be that Verizon only uses IMEI whitelists for device activation, and maybe for non-LTE devices. For LTE devices, it seems all the information that is needed to authenticate to both the CDMA and the LTE network are stored on the SIM card. So if you already have an activated SIM from Verizon, it should work on any SIM-unlocked Nexus 6.

dualityim said:
We had this debate in another thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/cdma-carriers-buying-nexus-6-consider-t2922642
The consensus seems to be that Verizon only uses IMEI whitelists for device activation, and maybe for non-LTE devices. For LTE devices, it seems all the information that is needed to authenticate to both the CDMA and the LTE network are stored on the SIM card. So if you already have an activated SIM from Verizon, it should work on any SIM-unlocked Nexus 6.
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Interested to see what happens next week. If you buy from T-Mo, it will be sim-locked. So you'll have to unlock it first.

Joshnor713 said:
Interested to see what happens next week. If you buy from T-Mo, it will be sim-locked. So you'll have to unlock it first.
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No all nexus are Sim unlocked.
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Joshnor713 said:
Interested to see what happens next week. If you buy from T-Mo, it will be sim-locked. So you'll have to unlock it first.
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It won't be sim locked ...they already took a t mobile nexus 6 and put vzw sim in it and it worked lte and calls

nexus6R3plicant said:
It won't be sim locked ...they already took a t mobile nexus 6 and put vzw sim in it and it worked lte and calls
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Are you talking about the Droid-life vid? That was a Play store version.

Joshnor713 said:
Are you talking about the Droid-life vid? That was a Play store version.
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ExCtly. People are getting confused because of the pamphlets that have to logos but they are google play review units. They were probably google units going to Tmobile that had those pamphlets and were used as review units. That DOESNT mean they came from Tmobile which is a different thing. Plus you also have to consider that the persons Verizon Sim car is already provisioned. The real test is activating new new service with a new sim card.
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Yes, you guys have some valid points. I already have an activated sim and all I would need to do is pop mine in to a T-mobile phone to see if it works.
But speaking to the last post, it would be interesting to see if a new verizon sim would work with a t-mobile bought phone.

There are only 2 versions. ..... international and north American. .....not a t mobile sprint vzw etc they are the same

If that's the case, then everyone should flock T-mobile stores on Nov. 12th if they are buying off contract.

rester555 said:
If that's the case, then everyone should flock T-mobile stores on Nov. 12th if they are buying off contract.
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Uh no. That's not how it works.
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Well how does it work then? I am reading that it is/is not tied to IMEI. So what is the reason you can't? Does anyone know?
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Well how does it work then? I am reading that it is/is not tied to IMEI. So what is the reason you can't? Does anyone know?
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Well first. Good luck trying to get a Tmobile store to sell you the phone without having an account. I've heard that some might for a higher msrp price. Even then if Verizon doesn't have the imei in their database you can't get it activated there. Some have said if you pop in an existing nano Sim with existing service it will work but trying to activate new service with it on Verizon may be tricky, specially since Verizon hasn't said squat about release dates or if they will even have the device in stock.
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monkeypaws said:
Well first. Good luck trying to get a Tmobile store to sell you the phone without having an account. I've heard that some might for a higher msrp price. Even then if Verizon doesn't have the imei in their database you can't get it activated there. Some have said if you pop in an existing nano Sim with existing service it will work but trying to activate new service with it on Verizon may be tricky, specially since Verizon hasn't said squat about release dates or if they will even have the device in stock.
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This exactly.
Fact is if you want to use a Nexus 6 on VZW your best bet is to buy from Play Store, Amazon, Motorola Direct, Verizon upon release, etc but NOT from other carriers.
Also T-Mobile has confirmed that they will turn away anyone hoping to buy off contract at any of their stores on launch day. They want to give current customers and new service customers the first go at the device sale before expanding sales to a whole after the hype dies down on their customer end.

I was lucky enough to get an order in today on Motorola's site, but after watching the latest Droid-Life show I was left with a concern. Apparently we won't be able to use simultaneous voice and data. So say for example I'm on a call and want to look something up, unless I'm connected to a WiFi network I won't be able to do that. This is the case with the 2014 Moto X and the just released Droid Turbo. Those phones though are (according to Verizon) going to get an update before the years end to allow for VoLTE, which will fix this problem. The problem I see is that since this isn't a "Verizon" phone per say, how are we going to get that update? Are we going to be stuck not being able to use simultaneous voice and data? For once I thought we finally had a great Nexus phone on Verizon and now this news reminds me of why we haven't had a Nexus phone after the Galaxy Nexus.

I have been mainly using it with T-Mobile but have popped in a Verizon sim and got LTE service. Made a couple of calls, used the internet.

Upgrade to Marshmallow droid turbo1 with other provider no Verizon

Dear friends; could your tell me if I will get the upgrade to M if I left Verizon for Vodafone? I live in Europe. There are many different opinions about...please help me in understanding how things are... Thanks
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If you're the same user from droidforums.net, you've gotten a definitive answer a few times. If that's someone else, my apologies, the details from the post over there, and yours over here are exactly the same. It should work. I've seen AT&T and T-Mobile Droid Turbo users pull the 5.1 Lollipop OTA when it was released last July. The update will be pushed via the updater service on the phone (from Motorola) and not from Verizon. You can even pull the OTA without having a SIM inserted, and without having activated the phone, so being on Vodafone should not affect anything.

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Xsequence said:
Dear friends; could your tell me if I will get the upgrade to M if I left Verizon for Vodafone? I live in Europe. There are many different opinions about...please help me in understanding how things are... Thanks
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Plus if for some reason you don't receive the OTA, you can always flash it manually when it is released. It will be posted many different places, including here on XDA.

N920C vs N920I on AT&T?

Looking to pick up one of these variants to use on AT&T and from my understanding, they both support all AT&T bands.. Is there any pros and cons to either variant? Which one works better on AT&T? Sorry if this was already asked but I didn't see any comments specific to AT&T..

XavierD8188 said:
Looking to pick up one of these variants to use on AT&T and from my understanding, they both support all AT&T bands.. Is there any pros and cons to either variant? Which one works better on AT&T? Sorry if this was already asked but I didn't see any comments specific to AT&T..
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I use the i varient on att. Now i am using the c version marshmallow os. The only hiccup ive had is the csc-country sales code messes with what apps the google market lets you see and install.

Assuming you didn't have any issues with the i software and google apps right? I don't plan on rooting or flashing roms just wanna get away from carrier branding and crap-ware.
rangercaptain said:
I use the i varient on att. Now i am using the c version marshmallow os. The only hiccup ive had is the csc-country sales code messes with what apps the google market lets you see and install.
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No, gmail, etc works like normal. The csc for the i varient i have is XSA so the market thinks im from australia, so news apps give me those feeds. Other than that, its been a good phone without all the att crapware. The c varient software doesnt have any problems at all.

Nice. Thank you for the information..
rangercaptain said:
No, gmail, etc works like normal. The csc for the i varient i have is XSA so the market thinks im from australia, so news apps give me those feeds. Other than that, its been a good phone without all the att crapware. The c varient software doesnt have any problems at all.
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using i version from Singapore on AT&T with no problem whatsoever. You don't get visual voicemail with unlocked international phone. But I don't really care about it. I hate AT&T crapware and limitations.

Nice. Same here. I hate AT&T crapware. I had the Note 5 AT&T model and got so fed up with it that I sold it and got a Nexus 6P but now I want a Note 5 again since they're really good prices on them now. Since I have the nexus 6p I don't get any of that stuff so I wont miss it.. Thanks...
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using i version from Singapore on AT&T with no problem whatsoever. You don't get visual voicemail with unlocked international phone. But I don't really care about it. I hate AT&T crapware and limitations.
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So the c or the i is better ? Any opinions?

Have beem using I version for 6 months and no issues at all...
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Cool deal, next question, I have the att version, is it that much better to justify spending 550$ just because?

Bigtjmc said:
Cool deal, next question, I have the att version, is it that much better to justify spending 550$ just because?
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I would wait for Note 6
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Bigtjmc said:
Cool deal, next question, I have the att version, is it that much better to justify spending 550$ just because?
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This is what I'm wondering