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So here's the deal, I unlocked my T-Mobile Moto X bootloader through Motorola's website about a year ago or so. I also rooted and didn't bother updating afterwards to anything since I had everything working perfectly for me. Now I need to update my 4.2.2 Moto X to 4.4.3 (or really anything >=4.3 just so I can use my Moto 360 that'll be arriving soon).
My question is, with an unlocked bootloader, rooted, TWRP 2.6.3.1, Xposed-installed Moto X, can I go ahead and flash a stock 4.4.3 ROM (for example from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/development/rom-stock-flashable-t-mobile-t2773675) and just call it a day?
I've been reading past threads and stuff to get back into the loop, but I just can'f find anything to answer me the simple question of updating an unlocked+rooted 4.2.2->4.4+ while keeping root. Just the simple question of, if I get a stock 4.4 image and flash it on my phone, will everything be okay?
I no longer have the passion and interest to constantly be fiddling with kernels, ROMs, and little hacks with my phone like I used to with my OG Droid and, to a lesser extent, with my Galaxy Nexus (plus I feel like it's gotten significantly less easy since those OG days).
I know (i.e. 90% sure) that one way to do what I want (kinda) is RSDLite/manually go back to stock without root on 4.2.2 and then accept the OTA, but certainly it has to be easier than that right? What happened to the days where I can just find a new Gingerbread ROM for my Froyo Droid and just flash it right then and there? Now everything is "go back to stock and do these convoluted steps."
(I'm sorry I'm ranting, I'm just really tired at the moment haha)
Thank you all, hopefully, for the help!
If you don't care about retaining your data, grab the 4.4.3 fxz and unzip it. Follow the directions for returning back to stock here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/ref-complete-moto-x-guides-information-t2603358 but replace the files to be flashed with the files from the 4.4.3 fxz. Not sure where you got the idea that you need to go back to stock. Word of caution, once on 4.4.3 there's no going back to an older version.
I have the same question as the OP, on unlocked rooted 4.2.2 ATT Moto X, can i flash a custom 4.4.4 and keep root?
RGNDI said:
I have the same question as the OP, on unlocked rooted 4.2.2 ATT Moto X, can i flash a custom 4.4.4 and keep root?
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You can take the ota but you need the stock recovery. Since you are unlocked you will not lose your unlocked-ness(lol) if you take an ota. But you do need to be completely stock: no su, no custom recovery, etc etc. But once you upgrade to 4.4.3 getting root back is as simple as flashing the appropriate version recovery again and then flashing supersu.
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You can take the ota but you need the stock recovery. Since you are unlocked you will not lose your unlocked-ness(lol) if you take an ota. But you do need to be completely stock: no su, no custom recovery, etc etc. But once you upgrade to 4.4.3 getting root back is as simple as flashing the appropriate vision recovery again and then flashing supersu.
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OK thanks, but cant I just Flash a Rooted Stock 4.4.4 over 4.2.2? Thats a more to the point question
RGNDI said:
OK thanks, but cant I just Flash a Rooted Stock 4.4.4 over 4.2.2? Thats a more to the point question
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Yeah that would work as long as your radio is compatible with the rom. The rom you shared earlier should be fine. Just don't downgrade to anything pre 4.4 as that can cause issues because of partition sizes (or so I've heard). But after that I wouldn't take any OTA's cause your bootloader would be incompatible with the OTA and possibly cause a brick. If I were you I'd revert to stock and take the long way to 4.4.3 just so I can get the OTA for when Android L comes out. In fact thats what I plan on doing if the Sunshine bootloader unlock is successful. But if you don't care about that then everything should be fine.
I've searched and found variations on these questions in other posts, but I didn't come across any pertaining quite to my situation, so I wanted advice before I do something wrong and brick my phone.
I have a Sprint Moto X, unlocked & rooted, running 4.2.2 (I think pre-camera update). I'd like to upgrade to stock Sprint Lollipop (when it comes out) & stay unlocked & rooted.
My understanding of the steps that need to be taken:
1. Unroot my device
2. Re-lock my device
3. Flash TWRP and boot to recovery
4. Flash stock Sprint Lollipop
5. Unlock, then re-root device
Is any of this extraneous, or am I leaving anything out? Do I need to upgrade to KitKat before going to Lollipop?
I also have Xposed installed and I have tweaked the PRL on my device ... this shouldn't complicate the upgrade, right?
Relocking is useless, and unless you know what you're doing, flashing stock updates in custom recovery shouldn't be done. You don't necessarily need to unroot either, just make sure all stock system files are still in place.
Sent from my Moto X
imnuts said:
Relocking is useless, and unless you know what you're doing, flashing stock updates in custom recovery shouldn't be done. You don't necessarily need to unroot either, just make sure all stock system files are still in place.
Sent from my Moto X
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i have a sprint X and if i am going to update this is how i have allways done it with no issues at all.
you can leave your bootloader unlocked that is no a issue. but i always take OTA's and you cant take a OTA with a modded system. so i allways just flash my stock firmware package. that way it removes my custom recovery. Root, and all Xposed changes. Then i take the OTA and just reinstall TWRP, then SuperSU then what ever else you want.
this is the safest way i have found to update, the nice thing about Unlocked Sprint phones is we can easily Root are phones via TWRP and SuperSu.
just my .02 you can do it how ever you like but this is how i am going to do it when the OTA finally comes out if it ever does.
Hello, I have upgraded to 5.0.2. via OTA a few days ago. My phone was RetEU .23, and the update notification that 5.0.2. became so annoying, so I decided to give it a shot. Lollipop is a disappointment for me, battery drain issues, lagging all over the menus, slow dialer, the phone was running better with KK installed, so I want to return back to 4.4.4.
Unfortunately there is no clear opinion whether this could be done, some say that when you have 5.0.2. bootloader installed with the OTA, you cannot go back, others say that it is no problem to do so. Really confusing.
Anyone tried to go back to 4.4.4. after getting the OTA? Could you please share how did you do so? Unlocking the bootloader and flashing one of the 4.4.4 stock ROMs from the General Section?
dub_1 said:
Hello, I have upgraded to 5.0.2. via OTA a few days ago. My phone was RetEU .23, and the update notification that 5.0.2. became so annoying, so I decided to give it a shot. Lollipop is a disappointment for me, battery drain issues, lagging all over the menus, slow dialer, the phone was running better with KK installed, so I want to return back to 4.4.4.
Unfortunately there is no clear opinion whether this could be done, some say that when you have 5.0.2. bootloader installed with the OTA, you cannot go back, others say that it is no problem to do so. Really confusing.
Anyone tried to go back to 4.4.4. after getting the OTA? Could you please share how did you do so? Unlocking the bootloader and flashing one of the 4.4.4 stock ROMs from the General Section?
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Hello,
i actually switched from 5.0.2 back to KK 4.4.4 from Pizza_dox
when your bootloader is unlocked and you have TWRP installed
follow these instructions
1, go do a factory reset
2, go to advanced wipe and select :dalvik cache/system/data/internal storage/cache
when you did that there is no system on your phone so when you restart you will be going into an endless bootloop.
3, go press install and select the Microkat.zip file from Pizza_Dox
when that is done you have agian kitkat on your device
i think there some other methods but this is how i did it succesfully.
Also dont forget to make a backup because you will lose everything.
Gerriitw said:
Hello,
i actually switched from 5.0.2 back to KK 4.4.4 from Pizza_dox
when your bootloader is unlocked and you have TWRP installed
follow these instructions
1, go do a factory reset
2, go to advanced wipe and select :dalvik cache/system/data/internal storage/cache
when you did that there is no system on your phone so when you restart you will be going into an endless bootloop.
3, go press install and select the Microkat.zip file from Pizza_Dox
when that is done you have agian kitkat on your device
i think there some other methods but this is how i did it succesfully.
Also dont forget to make a backup because you will lose everything.
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Thanks for your comment. I actually plan to go back to the stock 4.4.4. I have a basic idea of bootloader and things but not deep into this and have never done it before. From what I have read , I will have to:
1. First I need to unlock the bootloader, as per the instructions in the Moto website.
2. Then I will need to do a factory reset. (settings-secuirity-factory reset or some other way of doing this?)
3. Download 4.4.4 firmware + script.
4. Start up with Power+VolDown buttons and have bootloader menu on screen
5. Run the downloaded script from its .bat file.
6. Wait for some time for the flashing to end, then have stock 4.4.4
Please correct me if something is wrong or missed.
dub_1 said:
Thanks for your comment. I actually plan to go back to the stock 4.4.4. I have a basic idea of bootloader and things but not deep into this and have never done it before. From what I have read , I will have to:
1. First I need to unlock the bootloader, as per the instructions in the Moto website.
2. Then I will need to do a factory reset. (settings-secuirity-factory reset or some other way of doing this?)
3. Download 4.4.4 firmware + script.
4. Start up with Power+VolDown buttons and have bootloader menu on screen
5. Run the downloaded script from its .bat file.
6. Wait for some time for the flashing to end, then have stock 4.4.4
Please correct me if something is wrong or missed.
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What i did...
Download the correct kk stock rom
Setup my drivers and mfastboot correctly (simple fast boot works too)
Unlocked bootloader. (Voids warranty coz gives bootloader status 3)
Reboot in bootloader now...
Flash all files of kitkat except gpt.bin and motoboot.bin (they never flash for me lol )
Flash all other files (i typed filenames manually)
Fastboot reboot
Ps - no matter what i do..i have not been able to lock my bootloader once i downgraded from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4
Locking bootloader works well on 5.0.2
doctor_droid said:
What i did...
Download the correct kk stock rom
Setup my drivers and mfastboot correctly (simple fast boot works too)
Unlocked bootloader. (Voids warranty coz gives bootloader status 3)
Reboot in bootloader now...
Flash all files of kitkat except gpt.bin and motoboot.bin (they never flash for me lol )
Flash all other files (i typed filenames manually)
Fastboot reboot
Ps - no matter what i do..i have not been able to lock my bootloader once i downgraded from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4
Locking bootloader works well on 5.0.2
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well guess im gonna try - but no need to do, as makes no difference except to downgrading.... So best off unlocked
simply use the 4.4.4 link in my signature and pick firmware 2 or B called DSDSALL to go back to 4.4.4 .23 ret(xx)
So, it has been confirmed by several forums that when you have officially received the 5.0.2 OTA download update, you cannot go back to KK.
It has something to do with the new L bootloader. I guess that there is no way of doing this, up to now at least. Don't know if someone has tried and succeeded.
When you have flashed the 5.0.2. OTA however, you can have KK installed back, as most of the users on xda.
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So, it has been confirmed by several forums that when you have officially received the 5.0.2 OTA download update, you cannot go back to KK. FALSE
It has something to do with the new L bootloader. I guess that there is no way of doing this, up to now at least. Don't know if someone has tried and succeeded. FALSE
When you have flashed the 5.0.2. OTA however, you can have KK installed back, as most of the users on xda.
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YES you can install kitkat see my signature you NEED a unlocked boot loader
I have been up / down and sideways with ALL 4 versions ( 3 kitkat 1 Lollipop) of XT1068 firmware 50+ installs , a few soft bricks - also installed a few custom roms - gone back to lollipop and kitkat from these too.
see my signature for 4.4.4 and 5.0.2 firmware xt1068
reefuge said:
YES you can install kitkat see my signature you NEED a unlocked boot loader
I have been up / down and sideways with ALL 4 versions ( 3 kitkat 1 Lollipop) of XT1068 firmware 50+ installs , a few soft bricks - also installed a few custom roms - gone back to lollipop and kitkat from these too.
see my signature for 4.4.4 and 5.0.2 firmware xt1068
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Cheers mate. Already installed stock 4.4.4.
Does it make sense to relock the bootloader?
dub_1 said:
Cheers mate. Already installed stock 4.4.4.
Does it make sense to relock the bootloader?
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no absolutely not....... boot logo warning still comes up ...warranty still void and strangely if been to 5.0.2 and back to 4.4.4 it wont relock
but you can relock if on 5.0.2
Successful downgrade from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4
Dear All,
Pls help me in downgrading from 5.0.2 to 4.4.4 on my XT1068 Dual Sim Indian Version.
I need to know whether we can return to 4.4.4 without unlocking bootloader and is rooting needed.
Pls let me know your experience in a noob friendly way.
TIA... :angel:
dub_1 said:
Cheers mate. Already installed stock 4.4.4.
Does it make sense to relock the bootloader?
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What exactly did you do? His signature is gone...
I have a N6 rooted and I am waiting for the OTA rollout for 5.1 and I am wondering if i need to unroot before doing the 5.1 OTA?
zd913 said:
I have a N6 rooted and I am waiting for the OTA rollout for 5.1 and I am wondering if i need to unroot before doing the 5.1 OTA?
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To take an OTA, you'll need a 100% stock system image and be on stock recovery.
To be sure the OTA updates your system, your best option would be to fastboot flash the stock system.img and recovery.img from the stock 5.0.1 factory images (assuming you are on 5.0.1 now).
You could, just as easy, stop waiting and download/flash the 5.1 factory images manually, not flashing the userdata.img to keep your data intact (must be bootloader unlocked of course), then re-root.
tcrews said:
To take an OTA, you'll need a 100% stock system image and be on stock recovery.
To be sure the OTA updates your system, your best option would be to fastboot flash the stock system.img and recovery.img from the stock 5.0.1 factory images (assuming you are on 5.0.1 now).
You could, just as easy, stop waiting and download/flash the 5.1 factory images manually, not flashing the userdata.img to keep your data intact (must be bootloader unlocked of course), then re-root.
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Yes i am on 5.0.1. Do i need to unroot before i flash the 5.1 factory image?
zd913 said:
Yes i am on 5.0.1. Do i need to unroot before i flash the 5.1 factory image?
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No, Flashing will overwrite the rooted system you have now. You will have to root after flashing 5.1.
I will ask question in this thread as I don't want start new one.
I'm in uk. I have n6, I didn't do anything on it, no root, no unlocked bootloader.
Can I take OTA 5.1 , without worrying that it will stay in boot loop or I'm pretty safe to do so?
Also how long I have to wait for OTA 5.1 , I can see plenty of you on this forum had it already, but I even if I check for system updates it keep telling me system is up to date.
It can take a few weeks. And everything should be fine if you wait and accept it normally
rootSU said:
It can take a few weeks. And everything should be fine if you wait and accept it normally
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I hope you don't mind me asking a question here also? I hate to start another thread.
I'm on custom rom and kernel both still at 5.0.x. I've updated my bootloader and radio to 5.1. If I just wipe, flash the 5.1 rom, gapps and the 5.1 kernel, I don't have to flash the factory image's, they are baked into the rom and kernel already? Thanks in advance.
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I hope you don't mind me asking a question here also? I hate to start another thread.
I'm on custom rom and kernel both still at 5.0.x. I've updated my bootloader and radio to 5.1. If I just wipe, flash the 5.1 rom, gapps and the 5.1 kernel, I don't have to flash the factory image's, they are baked into the rom and kernel already? Thanks in advance.
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I'm sorry, I do not quite understand your question.
rootSU said:
I'm sorry, I do not quite understand your question.
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Thanks for responding and sorry I was not clear. I'm currently on a custom Rom and kernel that are 5.0 based. I flashed the 5.1 radio and bootloader when they came out. I want to upgrade to the 5.1 versions of the custom Rom and kernel. Do I have to flash stock 5.1 then flash the custom stuff or can I just flash the 5.1 custom Rom and kernel and be at 5.1.
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Thanks for responding and sorry I was not clear. I'm currently on a custom Rom and kernel that are 5.0 based. I flashed the 5.1 radio and bootloader when they came out. I want to upgrade to the 5.1 versions of the custom Rom and kernel. Do I have to flash stock 5.1 then flash the custom stuff or can I just flash the 5.1 custom Rom and kernel and be at 5.1.
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You just flashing your custom 5.1 ROM. It wouldn't make much sense to flash one ROM (i.e., a stock 5.1 ROM) and kernel to then immediately overwrite it with another ROM (i.e., your custom 5.1 ROM) and kernel, now would it?
Hello guys, this is posible on the motorola droid turbo XT124?
JexusDreek1 said:
Hello guys, this is possible on the motorola droid turbo XT124?
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Since Droid Turbo XT1254 doesn't yet have stock Marshmallow from Verizon, I assume you are on a custom Marshmallow ROM or @iiWoodstocK Marshmallow Brazil ROM, based on the XT1225 stock Marshmallow ROM.
You flashed it with TWRP, which means your bootloader is unlocked.
You are still using Verizon's Lollipop radio and I assume you are still using Lollipop bootloader.
Just flash the Lollipop ROM of your choice.
If you want to go back to stock Lollipop, CF's ROM is very close or you can even flash stock image via adb or rsdlite.
IF for some reason you did flash the Marshmallow bootloader, then exclude GPT.bin from any flash commands. You can't downgrade bootloaders.
I flashed "aokp_quark_mm_unofficial_2016-10-02_0936"
I put this rom by TRWP from lollipop 5.1 verizon. I do not know if the bootloader was updated, I do not think.
Then I can go back to 5.1 verizon stock by Rsd
or fastboot?
Thank you for answers and sorry for the bad English ^^
JexusDreek1 said:
I flashed "aokp_quark_mm_unofficial_2016-10-02_0936"
I put this rom by TRWP from lollipop 5.1 verizon. I do not know if the bootloader was updated, I do not think.
Then I can go back to 5.1 verizon stock by Rsd
or fastboot?
Thank you for answers and sorry for the bad English ^^
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Yes. You flashed AOKP ROM. You can go back to stock completely, but you would get stock recovery, not TWRP (until you reflashed TWRP).
You can also flash CF ROM (computerfreek274) which is tweaked stock-based Droid Turbo Lollipop. You wouldn't even lose TWRP.
See here:
ROM Computerfreek274_Unlocked.49_1.3.7 6/5/2016 Tether, Advanced Calling, Audio Mods
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3255945
ChazzMatt said:
Yes. You flashed AOKP ROM. You can go back to stock completely, but you would get stock recovery, not TWRP (until you repaired refreshed it).
You can also flag CF ROM (computerfreak) which is tweaked stock Lollipop. You wouldn't even lose TWRP.
See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=3255945
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Thank you very much for supporting me.
Everything went well and now I have this rom.
TWRP reinstalled, busybox and Xposed and everything went well.
However, I have not been able to run the notification light.
And being in stock, if you turn on the LED.
JexusDreek1 said:
Thank you very much for supporting me.
Everything went well and now I have this rom.
TWRP reinstalled, busybox and Xposed and everything went well.
However, I have not been able to run the notification light.
And being in stock, if you turn on the LED.
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On stock or stock-based ROM like CF, the light only comes on if you have a very low battery. It's not a message/email notification light on stock.
On the Quark, the "notification" light only works on a few CM-based custom ROMs. @bhb27 experimented and enabled it in Resurrection Remix and Bliss and AOKP maintainer uses his coding.
If you want that, and also Lollipop, then you would have to go to the Lollipop version of Resurrection Remix, which is not being updated anymore. It still works, and you can find it over in the other forum if you scroll down into the development threads -- but @bhb27 is focusing all his attention on current software.
This question is as close to mine as I can find so I hope posting here is OK.
I got the VZ OTA update (Before unlock and root) to marsh and it literally broke a few of the programs I use. Some of them will never get updates so that is out. So I would like to go back to 5. Because I did get the OTA to 6 is it possible to go back to 5? Yes I am unlocked and rooted. OR would trying one of the 7's be better?
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This question is as close to mine as I can find so I hope posting here is OK.
I got the VZ OTA update (Before unlock and root) to marsh and it literally broke a few of the programs I use. Some of them will never get updates so that is out. So I would like to go back to 5. Because I did get the OTA to 6 is it possible to go back to 5? Yes I am unlocked and rooted. OR would trying one of the 7's be better?
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If you are unlocked and rooted right now (I bolded that statement), yes you can downgrade firmware. But you have to omit gpt.bin in the commands. It's up to you if you wish to try Nougat custom ROMs but your question concerns older programs (apps) that need Lollipop, I thought.
Are there any comparable apps you can use? I don't know what functions these apps do, but if it's related to how the phone functions custom ROMs have many, many built in tweaks/options/enhancements.