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does widgets make my phone laggy?

am on xxjvs and am using touchwiz 3 with transparent app drawer
my free ram is always too low and my phone is laggy
this is some pics of my widgets and running services
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soudy1994 said:
am on xxjvs and am using touchwiz 3 with transparent app drawer
my free ram is always too low and my phone is laggy
this is some pics of my widgets and running services
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Most probably widgets have nothing to do with lag, but the feed widget and some weather widget will drain you battery faster since they must be syncing a lot.
Normaly free ram is low most of times, because Android put apps there to load them faster when you need them, but running processes will in fact affect your phone performace, check out if there is anything running that you don't need and close it.
Just recently, I changed from custom roms to stock roms, and I think stock roms are a little more responsive.

gtluis said:
Most probably widgets have nothing to do with lag, but the feed widget and some weather widget will drain you battery faster since they must be syncing a lot.
Normaly free ram is low most of times, because Android put apps there to load them faster when you need them, but running processes will in fact affect your phone performace, check out if there is anything running that you don't need and close it.
Just recently, I changed from custom roms to stock roms, and I think stock roms are a little more responsive.
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thanks for your reply can u tell me how much free ram do u have normal?
btw am on stock jvs deodexed and i have like 70 apps installed
and do you think i shud move apps to usb storage or leave em on phone ?

soudy1994 said:
thanks for your reply can u tell me how much free ram do u have normal?
btw am on stock jvs deodexed and i have like 70 apps installed
and do you think i shud move apps to usb storage or leave em on phone ?
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I have like 5 or 6 apps installed and free memory is curently on 129mb.
Running stock JVT.
You should try your apps and keep only the ones you need or use, anything else will just slow down your phone (and drain battery)

soudy1994 said:
thanks for your reply can u tell me how much free ram do u have normal?
btw am on stock jvs deodexed and i have like 70 apps installed
and do you think i shud move apps to usb storage or leave em on phone ?
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Try using advanced task killer pro. In setting set kill mode to crazy. It automatically kills unused apps on screen lock.
Android starts to lag if RAM falls below 50MB. So, you should try removing some apps.

sohebq said:
Try using advanced task killer pro. In setting set kill mode to crazy. It automatically kills unused apps on screen lock.
Android starts to lag if RAM falls below 50MB. So, you should try removing some apps.
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Android. Is. Not. Windows.
Android kills apps when it needs memory. If it doesn't need memory, it does not kill apps; if you do, it will relaunch apps—this is because it is more efficient to have apps cached in memory for when you want to use them, as opposed to relaunching the app every time you need it.
Killing apps does one thing: it causes the Android system to utilize free RAM by launching more apps. Doing so takes processing power, and does nothing but drain your battery.

upichie said:
Android. Is. Not. Windows.
Android kills apps when it needs memory. If it doesn't need memory, it does not kill apps; if you do, it will relaunch apps—this is because it is more efficient to have apps cached in memory for when you want to use them, as opposed to relaunching the app every time you need it.
Killing apps does one thing: it causes the Android system to utilize free RAM by launching more apps. Doing so takes processing power, and does nothing but drain your battery.
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I've read this to be true, task killers are not a good idea on android, it is better to delete unused apps, or have them backed up with titanium in case you need them.

why shud i uninstall apps even if they r not running in background?
and why when i click the home button while am on an app the app closes instead of staying in background

And am on jvs now shud i update to jvt ??
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soudy1994 said:
why shud i uninstall apps even if they r not running in background?
and why when i click the home button while am on an app the app closes instead of staying in background
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Because Android decided that app needed to be closed in order to reclaim memory for other purposes. If you're unhappy with the way Android manages your RAM, there are various options available to tweak it. Adjusting the amount of RAM the system keeps free will allow for better multi-tasking.

soudy1994 said:
And am on jvs now shud i update to jvt ??
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I'm on JVT and it feels like better than JVS to me.
Slight differences:
You'll have overscroll effect as default
My battery seems to last a LOT longer (at least for me on stock rom)

more ram issue

Hello guys
I know a lot of threads here but I tried a lot lot lot but on more ram
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So I have 180 used
170 free
500-170-180 = 150
is the system takes 150 mb ???
how to make it less???
or in other words how can I get more ram??!!!

1) app to sd
2) kill processes
or maybe you have to flash other rom with other kernel ( supprassed v2 or 4,5 )
But I think If there is no lag to leave it.

supi9 said:
1) app to sd
2) kill processes
or maybe you have to flash other rom with other kernel ( supprassed v2 or 4,5 )
But I think If there is no lag to leave it.
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I have now marvel 9
I have 190 free and 190 used so it's good but really is moving apps 2 sd card give me more ram??

No, app2sd just gives you more space on internal memory for applications (not ram). That's different thing.
And yes, system takes the missing ram. Free ram is free, used - applications shown in the screen + inactive (cached) applications. The rest is for system. Get some memory manager (like system panel from GP and check show system processes) and you will get the whole picture. Android only shows active processes and sometimes it's not enough (example when cached application still plays music in background or eats you cpu - you cannot kill it from android built-in task manager).

kretos said:
No, app2sd just gives you more space on internal memory for applications (not ram). That's different thing.
And yes, system takes the missing ram. Free ram is free, used - applications shown in the screen + inactive (cached) applications. The rest is for system. Get some memory manager (like system panel from GP and check show system processes) and you will get the whole picture. Android only shows active processes and sometimes it's not enough (example when cached application still plays music in background or eats you cpu - you cannot kill it from android built-in task manager).
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okay if you looked to my picture above the tsf launcher takes 60 MB
so I want to know what is the pretty simple light launcher ??!!
also I downloaded android keyboard because it takes only 7 mb but lg one takes 23 mb is it good?

Also look to this pic you will see ram status
any advices??!!
thnx in advance

I'm using go launcher - it's not the lightest but it has nice folder in app drawer so it suits me best. You cannot do much about the memory used - just forget about widgets and services in background - less such things, smaller memory usage. You cannot alter internal android processes without heavy coding (which won't give you big results - if it was easy google's programmers would already do the job)

On zeus and adw luncher I've about 180 free ram
Wysłane z mojego LG-P970 za pomocą Tapatalk

supi9 said:
On zeus and adw luncher I've about 180 free ram
Wysłane z mojego LG-P970 za pomocą Tapatalk
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On cm7 I have had up to 245 mb ram so I noticed the difference

on zeam luncher 200 free ram, but phone work the same

But in fact 177 mb only(using zeus) is not good when playing frontline commando it hangs so how can i delete the cached apps
????
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[Q] RAM Manager app to prevent redraws

Hi,
This is sort of a continuation to a thread I made a few weeks ago, which was about launcher redraw problems I had with every single launcher I tried. I'm on FroyoPro v2.5, and on the recommendation of a fellow board member (thanks, Dagger) I'm running Nemus launcher. Basically, whenever i install or uninstall an app, my launcher prompts me to either force close or wait, and when I choose wait, it becomes slow for the next five or ten seconds and then returns to normal. It was worse before, but ticking "Lock launcher into memory" solved the most of the problems. Seems that the lack of RAM was actually the source of the problem.
I was recommended the SuperCharger script. However, I needed a newer version of BusyBox to install it, so I scrapped the idea for the fear I might brick the phone.
I investigated further for a solution, and found the app called RAM Manager (free version), which was made by a developer here at XDA. I installed it, set the "balanced" profile, and it actually fixed the problem. No redraws so far, and I even think the launcher is a tad smoother than before.
Has anyone tried this app? Is it a good thing to have or would you rather recommend I try something else? Are there any apps like it that are perhaps more efficient? It seems that all I need is better RAM management for the issue to be solved.
EDIT: Forgot to add the link to the XDA thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1305060
So far so good. Battery seems more or less unaffected. No negative effects on AnTuTu and Quadrant benchmark scores. Played five games in total, seemingly no negative or positive effects. What are your feedbacks on this?

The ram manager is actually a substitute to the supercharger script.
I personally recommend it if you are having ram issues.
Also you may freeze or uninstall the useless apps(mainly system apps) so as to free more memory.

Hm, now two days into the testing I've noticed that launcher redraws still do happen on occasion. However, it also seems that this app does the job well the moment it started and several minutes after running, but its effectiveness sort of degrades afterwards. Two days after I don't even notice any difference than before. What's the reason behind this? Is it fully compatible with CM ROMs?
There's only one more thing that I would also like to try before dropping this whole issue completely. Obviously it's a RAM thing, because running the backup I made a day after flashing FroyoPro seems to have no problems until I choke it with more apps. Then the same thing starts occurring. Not much can be done with the limited RAM X8 has.
However, what do you think about tweaking the VM heap size and MinFree values in CM settings? Is it possible to alleviate the problem with some tweaks from there?

Ahhhhhhh
V6 supercharger is just a ....beep.....
Before using that my antutu benchmark was 4005 - after installing script my score had a freefall @ ~3500~ ( lost 500 scores)
I'm using ram manager pro too, I can say that its awesome for setting to -multitasking option ( 3 apps at the same time)
HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
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jay-z-s said:
Ahhhhhhh
V6 supercharger is just a ....beep.....
Before using that my antutu benchmark was 4005 - after installing script my score had a freefall @ ~3500~ ( lost 500 scores)
I'm using ram manager pro too, I can say that its awesome for setting to -multitasking option ( 3 apps at the same time)
HIGHLY RECOMMENDED
Sent from my E15i using Tapatalk 2
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Yes, and I might actually try buying this app. Even though it didn't resolve the redraw issue completely, the general feeling of better performance seems to linger. I'm going to keep running the free version for a few more days and see what would happen

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There you go...
Download "system tuner pro" or any similar apps from market.
Press "tweak " button
Set "hidden apps" option to maximum value (now its 24mb but u can raise it to 32 or higher )
That's it...
*launcher pro OR adw launcher are too light and don't need to increase memory (I use adw with Widgets without reddraws

Use thishttp://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1987032
It works for me.
Just install the apk and tick both yes and run at boot.
sent from my phone using hands and brain...

All cores are at 100% every few minutes

Anyone knows how to see which app is using the most CPU time? I want to throw my new redmi note 9 at the wall already. Hardly any apps installed and every few minutes it freezes and becomes unresponsive.
I got one app and it showed this during freezes
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Did you install a new app before that started?

No, Even during initial setup it was like this

Do you have root right now ?
Basically the miui doesn't kill the app when you close/ leave it.Download something like avast cleaner in the Playstore and close/force the apps listed.Hate to say it but don't expect wonderful things from this phone.Mtk cpu and the biggest problem the miui interface atm.

Dokrak99 said:
Do you have root right now ?
Basically the miui doesn't kill the app when you close/ leave it.Download something like avast cleaner in the Playstore and close/force the apps listed.Hate to say it but don't expect wonderful things from this phone.Mtk cpu and the biggest problem the miui interface atm.
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Can I leave it unrooted?
I checked battery stats and it says 75% is taken by screen time. Is there any app that works without rooting and can show the tasks occupying CPU time?

Mmm let me see what ROM are you on global,EU, and what version.
This phone especially some roms are famous for a heavy load off bloatware,ads,tracking, collection off data.mix that with a very in my opinion really bad miui software.
Because you're screen takes the most battery drain most likely we could rule out a third party app.leaves us with system apps.
I had the same as you're phone out off the box freezes.
I debloat my phone installed a alternative launcher with addquard.its not a rocket but it's most off the time ok only use it as back up.
Basically I can't think off a very easy way to get detailed information right now.Even you have root system dump log .even then you have a load off info.system tracing is available but takes time to learn and understand.

I'm on global rom, 12.0.6.
I thought chrome was the problem and disabled it but I still have these 100% cpu spikes every few minutes.

Global ROM is not the cleanest ROM out there.i am not at home right now so I can't check on my other phone if we can get some information out of a non rooted phone.
I would like to point out this page.
Saki EU tool Szaki used it on global 12.03
You don't need root just read the page and run.chrome is no light weight but a mi browser with adds and tracking is no joy either.

Well because I did use this phone only for work.Testing,sharing I only do in emulators.So dropped in the phone with my son to kill it basically what we found out.its not the CPU it is android 10 what request around 2gb of ram ideally.So we got 1gb left normal it should kill processing apps if it runs out of memory.
Now the mi shell miui is holding on 2,2 GB if you play games like asphalt 8,9 zombie hunter,armor god,af arena it is killing itself.
Disable miui or/and give the miui a order to automatically close apps he really don't like that.
So the CPU runs at 100% because off the shortage in memory so in theory we only have 2gb of ram.A android 10 runs idle already around 1,6 gb.So it's no wonder why it lags big
time on a lot.
The fix create a swap file on you're android device.ram expended root ,swapper root,link2sd with gapps root.there is a APK available what create a swap file on you're sd card ,take a good card do.no root.
A video to give you idea how it can run with an without a 3 GB swap file.Even with a 1gb swap file you should walk out the woods

1 to 8 minutes testing 4 games
8 to 11 minutes FPS test .
Last part starting without v memory stuck at boot screen.

Question only 4 apps lock to RAM on 16GB RAM?

Hello
anyone noticed why it's only possible to lock 4 apps to RAM on the 16GB/512GB S21 Ultra? I do have 8-9GB RAM FREE after I locked 4 apps that I could use to lock more apps...what is Samsung thinking with that brutal limitation? also only possible to lock 1 app on the regular S21 with 8GB is also very stupid...

[email protected] said:
Hello
anyone noticed why it's only possible to lock 4 apps to RAM on the 16GB/512GB S21 Ultra? I do have 8-9GB RAM FREE after I locked 4 apps that I could use to lock more apps...what is Samsung thinking with that brutal limitation? also only possible to lock 1 app on the regular S21 with 8GB is also very stupid...
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Are your apps getting killed if you don't lock them in RAM? How many apps do you intend to keep locked in RAM all the time? I'm just asking out of curiosity as I've never used this feature before and would like to know where this would be useful. I only have a 12GB variant though.

enigmaamit said:
Are your apps getting killed if you don't lock them in RAM? How many apps do you intend to keep locked in RAM all the time? I'm just asking out of curiosity as I've never used this feature before and would like to know where this would be useful. I only have a 12GB variant though.
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no but sometimes I have alot of apps in the list that I don't bother swiping to remove and just press close all and the apps I choose to lock stays in the list...I just think it's a waste of RAM not to be able to lock more apps when it clearly could take more, they also removed the feature were you could lock apps to the recent menu without locking it to RAM.
it's useful for example if I don't lock the Internet browser to RAM and if I start writing something on forum or whatever and if I close the browser by swiping it from the recent list and open it again it reloads the page and removes what I wrote.

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no but sometimes I have alot of apps in the list that I don't bother swiping to remove and just press close all and the apps I choose to lock stays in the list...I just think it's a waste of RAM not to be able to lock more apps when it clearly could take more, they also removed the feature were you could lock apps to the recent menu without locking it to RAM.
it's useful for example if I don't lock the Internet browser to RAM and if I start writing something on forum or whatever and if I close the browser by swiping it from the recent list and open it again it reloads the page and removes what I wrote.
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Ahhh...Ok. Got it.
What happens if you don't swipe to kill apps at all?
Like you said, what's the point of having so much RAM if you don't even use it? All your used apps will stay in that huge RAM right? Including your browser and any other apps that you deem critical (you could also add them to the list of never sleeping apps under battery settings)...
And if there's an app that you always kill out of habit after exiting (that you don't want running in the backgrounnd), just add it to the deep sleeping apps list and the phone will auto disable it once it goes to background.
I know it's not what you're looking for, but I think it will acheive the same result. Just trying to think of alternatives to the lock-in-RAM thingy. I'm not sure if you can lock more than Samsung permitted number of apps in RAM without root.

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Try with Multi Focus turned on.
Its from MultiStar goodlock module.

enigmaamit said:
Ahhh...Ok. Got it.
What happens if you don't swipe to kill apps at all?
Like you said, what's the point of having so much RAM if you don't even use it? All your used apps will stay in that huge RAM right? Including your browser and any other apps that you deem critical (you could also add them to the list of never sleeping apps under battery settings)...
And if there's an app that you always kill out of habit after exiting (that you don't want running in the backgrounnd), just add it to the deep sleeping apps list and the phone will auto disable it once it goes to background.
I know it's not what you're looking for, but I think it will acheive the same result. Just trying to think of alternatives to the lock-in-RAM thingy. I'm not sure if you can lock more than Samsung permitted number of apps in RAM without root.
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if I don't swipe to kill apps they stay in the RAM but sometimes I just want to clear the recent apps and then it closes the apps that are not locked into RAM.
yes there is no other way to do this unfortunately if Samsung won't release firmware update that allows for more apps to be locked to RAM, it does not matter what I do now, if I close all apps in recent list then they get killed.
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Try with Multi Focus turned on.
Its from MultiStar goodlock module.
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I've been using that but it won't help when I clear the recent list.