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Anyone know how to go back to stock from the .893 update?

Long story short the vzw rep told me to install the leaked update saying it would fix my 3g connection problems (which it didn't) and now I'm stuck with no root. I would like to either get root or go back to stock if thats possible. Is it possible to use the sbf and go back? Any help would be appreciated.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1279825

The VZ rep told you to install a leak? That sounds a bit shaky.

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Won't work.
If I'm not mistaken. There is no way to go back to release stock. Since that update updated the bootloader / or kernel, FXZ ( SPF ) which ever you perfer to call it won't work since the updated bootloader.
sucks i know.
I have never heard about a vzw rep telling you to install something that is leaked. (most of the time voids warranty.)
About the only thing i can tell you is to try to get a hold of @p3droid on twitter and try to get a root method from him for test. but that may be unlikely but could be worth it if your willing to test stuff for him.
Anyway, Good luck with the phone.
I hope you get it
T.A.

A Verizon rep telling you to install a leak... that reminds me of the Verizon store near me. They're (almost) all a bunch of idiots, at least every one I've encountered in there was. One guy tried to tack a note onto my account saying that my insurance should be removed since I "rooted" my phone, when I actually just had go launcher running. wasn't actually rooted at that time, I know better than to tread in their turf with the Superuser hanging around.
Couldn't he just apply the FXZ image since that's basically a whole phone image?

TopazAaron said:
Won't work.
If I'm not mistaken. There is no way to go back to release stock. Since that update updated the bootloader / or kernel, FXZ ( SPF ) which ever you perfer to call it won't work since the updated bootloader.
sucks i know.
I have never heard about a vzw rep telling you to install something that is leaked. (most of the time voids warranty.)
About the only thing i can tell you is to try to get a hold of @p3droid on twitter and try to get a root method from him for test. but that may be unlikely but could be worth it if your willing to test stuff for him.
Anyway, Good luck with the phone.
I hope you get it
T.A.
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Ya the phone functions now just sucks not having root. Luckily I got a replacement on the way already I would just prefer to keep my original bionic than taking a chance with a re-certified one.
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A Verizon rep telling you to install a leak... that reminds me of the Verizon store near me. They're (almost) all a bunch of idiots, at least every one I've encountered in there was. One guy tried to tack a note onto my account saying that my insurance should be removed since I "rooted" my phone, when I actually just had go launcher running. wasn't actually rooted at that time, I know better than to tread in their turf with the Superuser hanging around.
Couldn't he just apply the FXZ image since that's basically a whole phone image?
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Ya dude they aren't the brightest but I couldn't get data on 3g at all the airplane toggle, factory reset, and sbf didn't fix it so I took the plunge to the latest leak with no success. When you call the tech people up on the phone they read from a script and its like dude I already factory reset a battery pulls not gonna fix it.....

For what it's worth, I've been seeing some issues with 3G lately myself, but I'm in an area where we have had LTE for less than two weeks. Every time I use 3G only, I get network issues as well, so my guess was it's just Verizon doing backend things and ****ing with the network.

K.AuthoR said:
For what it's worth, I've been seeing some issues with 3G lately myself, but I'm in an area where we have had LTE for less than two weeks. Every time I use 3G only, I get network issues as well, so my guess was it's just Verizon doing backend things and ****ing with the network.
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My gf's thunderbolt gets 3g data that was 2 feet away from my bionic. It was the phone not the network.

Well, there goes my effort No LTE your way yet I'm guessing?

this reminds me of .... well, nothing.. but.. it does suck and it made me laugh.. i really am sorry about your trouble and im glad you are getting a replacement but.. damn.

Bionics 3g radio just sucks! Period! The 4g on the other hand tends to work almost normal. I have messed with 3 different bionics and have had the same results..

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Well, there goes my effort No LTE your way yet I'm guessing?
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No we get LTE it just comes in and out and like when I'm at the gym I only get 3g so I couldn't browse the internet between sets haha
xkape said:
this reminds me of .... well, nothing.. but.. it does suck and it made me laugh.. i really am sorry about your trouble and im glad you are getting a replacement but.. damn.
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I just want root the phone functions fine now though lol

I also had a vzw dummy say my DROIDX was rooted too cuz I was running LPP. I just looked at him and said... are you serious. I think we all know not to take a phone into vzw while rooted. I would talk to the store manager that some1 had told you to install a leak. Make sure this doesn't get tagged as your fault.
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droidrev71 said:
Bionics 3g radio just sucks! Period! The 4g on the other hand tends to work almost normal. I have messed with 3 different bionics and have had the same results..
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I agree.
inkdaddy66 said:
I also had a vzw dummy say my DROIDX was rooted too cuz I was running LPP. I just looked at him and said... are you serious. I think we all know not to take a phone into vzw while rooted. I would talk to the store manager that some1 had told you to install a leak. Make sure this doesn't get tagged as your fault.
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I was rooted too I just used launcherpro to hide the superuser but the guy I talked to had a droid 2 global and his phone was rooted he didn't care lol.

You'll get a few reps that are actually into their devices. But few and far in between. When I see an android device and see it's not rooted. My look of enjoyment turns to disgust. Lol.
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inkdaddy66 said:
You'll get a few reps that are actually into their devices. But few and far in between. When I see an android device and see it's not rooted. My look of enjoyment turns to disgust. Lol.
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LOL now you know why I want to get this bionic back to stock I can't stand having this **** not rooted. Like my girls thunderbolt is rooted for my enjoyment she could care less haha.

You did say that you're having another sent out to you right? Yeah no root is no good. Although when I first got mine I was really impressed with it unrooted. Told myself to play with it for a while unrooted but I just couldn't do it. Ha ha.
But it seriously needs a radio update. Its horrible. My thunderbolts radio blew this outta the water.
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inkdaddy66 said:
You did say that you're having another sent out to you right? Yeah no root is no good. Although when I first got mine I was really impressed with it unrooted. Told myself to play with it for a while unrooted but I just couldn't do it. Ha ha.
But it seriously needs a radio update. Its horrible. My thunderbolts radio blew this outta the water.
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Yeah its on its way they use to fed ex over night it now they've gotten stingy and usps it 2-5 business days...... Ya I said that too and it lasted about 15 minutes out of the box before it was rooted lol.

RMcCall said:
Yeah its on its way they use to fed ex over night it now they've gotten stingy and usps it 2-5 business days...... Ya I said that too and it lasted about 15 minutes out of the box before it was rooted lol.
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2-5 days. That's weak. I had no idea they changed it up. A little ridiculous. Providing we all need phones for obvious reasons. At least yours still works.
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Ya they must of just changed it cause my girl got a replacement thunderbolt overnighted like a month ago. She said i could pay 20 bucks to get it overnighted needless to say i passed on her offer.
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Data fix

Where is the data fix?? I heard from Verizon they were going to release a fix for 3/4g data going out by, where is it???? My data is sometimes out for half a day!! I live in CT and coverage here is great, at least on my old Droid one.
Sorry for the rant, can someone please catch me up with what's up if anything???
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update has been delayed. was supposed to be november and now they say early december

saltysteven said:
Where is the data fix?? I heard from Verizon they were going to release a fix for 3/4g data going out by, where is it???? My data is sometimes out for half a day!! I live in CT and coverage here is great, at least on my old Droid one.
Sorry for the rant, can someone please catch me up with what's up if anything???
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Might want to re-title your post. You gave me a burst of false hope there for a minute.
RMD

Well they are obviously working on it as there have been many leaked OTA files. There was 5.5.893, 5.6.8933, 5.7.893, 5.7.894 and most recently 5.8.894. I installed the first three of those and all of them really improved my data issues. It's not perfect yet, but it seems to get better and better. I think by the time the final OTA is released and pushed out to phones, it will solve the data issue, hissing headphone issue, camera issue and improve battery life.
Good luck.

neckbonest said:
update has been delayed. was supposed to be november and now they say early december
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I heard february.

r0ckstar323 said:
I heard february.
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Man, this is exactly what turned me to hating Samsung/AT&T. This is the same crap they pulled with the Captivate. "Oh yeah, you'll get that update in October"
Thought I was able to breathe easy since I went with a Moto phone this time around. That they wouldn't screw the users like Samsung was. Guess not.
Guess I shouldn't expect ICS before 2013 either

FWIW, I had severe issues dropping data while on a road trip and at one point my phone would only connect when 4G was available. Before the road trip I was having issues losing connection with both 4G/3G. Long story short, I called cust service and was eventually xferred to the 4G dept. They pushed a "hybrid" PRL to my phone that was supposed to help pick up older Alltel towers, my phone has been pretty much flawless ever since then. And this was over 2 months ago.

[Q] New owner - what are the known issues?

My fiance is getting the Bionic, it's expected early next week. What are the known problems with this phone so we know what to expect?
Oh, and this wasn't a phone of either of our choice, Verizon kinda forced it on her. She had her phone stolen at work and Verizon offered to give her this phone for a price, but give up her upgrade next yr and sign a 2 yr agreement. When we tried asking for another phone, we got a firm "we can't do that." I know, really bad deal... I may try calling on her behalf to get that straightened out tonight.
But in case we're stuck, I was just curious about the problems.

What phone did she have? What phone would you and her rather have had? Since you're showing a little hate, I'll show a little love........... Bionic is the best phone out there, you won't find anything better.

Most of the issues have been resolve with the updates love the phone have had it since launch very fast and no lags in the software 4g is great, only issue is a data drop maybe once a week when switching from 4g to 3g.
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I didn't mean to give the impression I was expecting this to be a terrible phone. Just as getting anything new, you want to know what to expect. I'm an avid Android user and know the specs. The phone seems to be a great phone, but it can be a bit harder to investigate any problems with it. I was hoping someone would say the bugs were worked out, so thank you for that. The hate comes from the way Verizon kind of screwed her out of an upgrade without any choice of phone. We didn't know what we would have rather had yet, but having known it would be giving up an upgrade, we would have liked to look into what is available and actually have a choice.
But the Bionic IS an upgrade from what she had before. She had the LG Revolution which was a terrible experience. Thanks for the feedback though. Like I said, I was just trying to get a better idea of what to expect. (Thanks buttons have been clicked)

gk1984 said:
I didn't mean to give the impression I was expecting this to be a terrible phone. Just as getting anything new, you want to know what to expect. I'm an avid Android user and know the specs. The phone seems to be a great phone, but it can be a bit harder to investigate any problems with it. I was hoping someone would say the bugs were worked out, so thank you for that. The hate comes from the way Verizon kind of screwed her out of an upgrade without any choice of phone. We didn't know what we would have rather had yet, but having known it would be giving up an upgrade, we would have liked to look into what is available and actually have a choice.
But the Bionic IS an upgrade from what she had before. She had the LG Revolution which was a terrible experience. Thanks for the feedback though. Like I said, I was just trying to get a better idea of what to expect. (Thanks buttons have been clicked)
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I just got my bionic yesterday on a warranty swap (had an LG Revolution also... went through 3 of them before they gave me another option). All I had to pay for was a battery and battery door.

Rooting it is now fairly easy. ICS builds are out there, but I'm not satisfied with the quality try for daily use. One you root it and ROM it, first thing to do is wipe battery stats.
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KaneOfMars said:
I just got my bionic yesterday on a warranty swap (had an LG Revolution also... went through 3 of them before they gave me another option). All I had to pay for was a battery and battery door.
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Wow, lucky you. They'll do anything to get more money from ya (us) huh? They're reasoning is they're letting her upgrade over a year early - hence the reason for no choice.
Hans5849 said:
Rooting it is now fairly easy. ICS builds are out there, but I'm not satisfied with the quality try for daily use. One you root it and ROM it, first thing to do is wipe battery stats.
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I appreciate the rom tips, but she refuses to go that route - I tried. I've rooted and flashed countless roms on 3 phones i've owned, but she isn't comfortable letting that happen. so, her use will always be 100% stock. But since we're on the topic, any promise of an official ICS update? I'll look into this myself if no one cares to answer. I'm sure that's easy to find.

Motorola has promised ics but there is no set date for it.
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Some nice things
I just got mine a couple of weeks ago. While you did ask about known issues, I guess it's only fair to mentions some positives as well.
1. The 4g, at least in my area (around Baltimore), is pretty great.
2. Patching the mobile hotspot is fairly easy, (if you don't mind spending a couple of bucks on the right app) which is quite useful if you're grandfathered with unlimited data.
3. The lapdock can be quite useful - emphasis on "can" - as you can have a full blown linux OS running on it (takes some nerdiness to get it working nice, but I honestly think it's well worth it since I paid only about $70 for my lapdock).
4. Rooting the phone is extremely easy.
5. If you mess anything up, restoring it to its original state is fairly easy and mostly fool proof (as with all motorola android phones) using RSD Lite.

Got mine about 2 weeks ago and I absolutely love the way it works. My wife upgraded as well to her first smartphone, but sadly she chose the Samsung Charge. When I showed her the pink theme for Eclipse 2.2 she was having 2nd thoughts on her choice. Over all a damn good device and lots of different options for it.

gk1984 said:
Wow, lucky you. They'll do anything to get more money from ya (us) huh? They're reasoning is they're letting her upgrade over a year early - hence the reason for no choice.
I appreciate the rom tips, but she refuses to go that route - I tried. I've rooted and flashed countless roms on 3 phones i've owned, but she isn't comfortable letting that happen. so, her use will always be 100% stock. But since we're on the topic, any promise of an official ICS update? I'll look into this myself if no one cares to answer. I'm sure that's easy to find.
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The data drop issues I had were resolved with the leaked .904 update. Fairly simple to apply and the phone stays stock since its just an update, maybe you need to root. (I was rooted when I applied it and had to reroot after.)
Other then that I would occasionally get duplicate texts and it would get rather annoying getting the same text multiple times, one time it didnt stop so I had to reboot (note that this is same in stock as well as roms and messaging apps).
Since then I disabled the timestamp option in the text messaging and it seems to have resolved it. (2 days with no duplicates) I re-enabled it to see if it would start doing it again to see if the timestamps are the actual root cause of the problem.
Those were my only issues with Stock. Since then I have been running Eclipse and have been loving it.

nobe1976 said:
Got mine about 2 weeks ago and I absolutely love the way it works. My wife upgraded as well to her first smartphone, but sadly she chose the Samsung Charge. When I showed her the pink theme for Eclipse 2.2 she was having 2nd thoughts on her choice. Over all a damn good device and lots of different options for it.
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DROID Charge?? that's a terrible choice.

Official Verizon Lollipop Betting Thread

So, if/when do you think Verizon will get official lollipop out? (I know speculation is pointless but idrc)
I'm putting 40% on it never comes out, 50% between 2 and 8 months from the d802 and 10% within 2 months of the international g2 getting it (probably next week).

date
My guess would be at the end of March or beginning of April. Probably around the same time the Galaxy S6 and One M9 (or whatever there going to call it) come out. Since it will probably be out on AT&T right before then.

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So, if/when do you think Verizon will get official lollipop out? (I know speculation is pointless but idrc)
I'm putting 40% on it never comes out, 50% between 2 and 8 months from the d802 and 10% within 2 months of the international g2 getting it (probably next week).
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I'm going to say mid-May 2015. Or maybe June. But with VZW, you never know, so maybe December just to screw with everyone.

I still think sometime in the next few weeks to a month since Verizon has been pretty quick to updating phones to lollipop. Granted they still throw all there garbage bloatware. But atleast google has been nice to create ways for people to uninstall it without having to root.

Have you seen this?
http://pressandupdate.com/lg-g2-android-5-0-1-lollipop-update-everything-know/

That article was useless since it tries to blame on the problems on "older hardware". The snapdragon 801 inside the g3 is not much different then the snapdragon 800 inside the g2. It's just companies being lazy and wanting people to buy a new phone every time there is a software update. Especially with the markup for the cost of these devices.

Look at this link someone v posted in another thread. We Verizon users might be first!
http://link.tapatalk.com/api/click?...rs.com&subid=cfcd208495d565ef66e7dff9f98764da
It's the source code for Verizon lollipop. Someone said that when the source code came out for f240l a week later the kdz showed up. They're speculating that we may be able to expect lollipop kdz for Verizon in a week
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And that link is a download link but look at the source of the download. It shows lg website and the name shows Verizon g2 lollipop version number. I haven't downloaded yet but it's only 273 mb which seems small but if anyone knows about this stuff check it out and let us know.
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Today; I win (possibly)
Somebody try this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=59143711&postcount=946

So you find a 145mb file for maybe (the verizon variant) that you think is lollipop. And you want someone to try it on a whim. Good luck.

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So you find a 145mb file for maybe (the verizon variant) that you think is lollipop. And you want someone to try it on a whim. Good luck.
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Did you read the rest of the post?

I'm there, it works!

For once it appears as though being on Verizon is actually a good thing for updates. Hooray!

i guss it out at July

SchmidtA99 said:
So you find a 145mb file for maybe (the verizon variant) that you think is lollipop. And you want someone to try it on a whim. Good luck.
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Lol look who's running lollipop now because they tried his find on a whim...
This guy! :thumbup:
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I can't figure out how to update to lollipop.
can someone post the process?
do you need root access to update?

gooruma said:
I can't figure out how to update to lollipop.
can someone post the process?
do you need root access to update?
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Here u go!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-g2/development/manual-ota-vs980-39a-lollipop-t3046228

I think I'll still wait for the next update. Since Lollipop is so hit or miss on phones/tablets. I have a 2012 Nexus 7 which it works great on along with my nexus 9. A friend has 5.0 on his Verizon galaxy s5 and his phone is now laggy and the battery life is garbage.

Verizon sent out lollipop to my wife's M8 last night. Seemed pretty snappy after the install. Guess it will take a week or two before start noticing any small issues though.
I thought LG was supposed to be quick with their updates? How did HTC beat them to it?

Updating now, just got back from vacation, so don't need root and tether that much...
If I do, can always go back to 27A

I'm running stock verizon 5.0.2 lollipop now, runs pretty good. If you have a vs980 try it out

Lollipop: it burns, IT BURNS

reading the laments over poor Lollipop battery life, i kept on KitKat until 23.4.A.1.200 -- which seems to be the one that Sony nailed.
just updated yesterday. system went through a series of updates, i think five or six. didn't know that for OTA, you actually had to do them incrementally, one after another. system would get done with one, immediately there would be notification of another, and so on and so on until 23.4.A.1.200.
after the first one, the phone got hot. and by the 5th of 6th reboot/update, it was REALLY HOT. never ever felt it this hot. i was really starting worry that i would eventually become a victim of the dreaded cracked glass syndrome.
i've swapped roms on tablets and Samsung phones, without noticing any heat dissipation. and for things like downloading and installing apps with Lollipop, my Z3c gets warmer -- something i didn't notice with KK. surely this isn't normal?
edit: just doing a several minutes of WhatsApp chats ... why is this thing getting warm now?

AM Radio said:
reading the laments over poor Lollipop battery life, i kept on KitKat until 23.4.A.1.200 -- which seems to be the one that Sony nailed.
just updated yesterday. system went through a series of updates, i think five or six. didn't know that for OTA, you actually had to do them incrementally, one after another. system would get done with one, immediately there would be notification of another, and so on and so on until 23.4.A.1.200.
after the first one, the phone got hot. and by the 5th of 6th reboot/update, it was REALLY HOT. never ever felt it this hot. i was really starting worry that i would eventually become a victim of the dreaded cracked glass syndrome.
i've swapped roms on tablets and Samsung phones, without noticing any heat dissipation. and for things like downloading and installing apps with Lollipop, my Z3c gets warmer -- something i didn't notice with KK. surely this isn't normal?
edit: just doing a several minutes of WhatsApp chats ... why is this thing getting warm now?
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Well... Ive been using it since it was out (used @moly82 debloat script and some other modifications) and the phone definitly does not get hot. Maybe you should do a fresh install by flashing the FTF with flashtool (you can exclude data wipe... if that wont work try to do a full clean install)? Here is the newer 23.4.A.232. Try that one. Or use Moly82's rom V7.
At least with a clean install you can be sure if it is not related to your phone just being a little messed up (it shouldnt be but well... anything can happen with software).
Hope this might help you

thx. will look into this. i'm based in Canada though ... will CE and Singapore work okay given my locale?
was kind of hoping to keep it stock (my Z3c has been STOCK for 10 months! by far a record for me ... kind of hard to believe, actually), but i was *just* installing an app, and the phone rebooted itself. grrrr.
heat issues, and a reboot: never once had an issue with the phone until now ... hmmm.

AM Radio said:
reading the laments over poor Lollipop battery life, i kept on KitKat until 23.4.A.1.200 -- which seems to be the one that Sony nailed.
just updated yesterday. system went through a series of updates, i think five or six. didn't know that for OTA, you actually had to do them incrementally, one after another. system would get done with one, immediately there would be notification of another, and so on and so on until 23.4.A.1.200.
after the first one, the phone got hot. and by the 5th of 6th reboot/update, it was REALLY HOT. never ever felt it this hot. i was really starting worry that i would eventually become a victim of the dreaded cracked glass syndrome.
i've swapped roms on tablets and Samsung phones, without noticing any heat dissipation. and for things like downloading and installing apps with Lollipop, my Z3c gets warmer -- something i didn't notice with KK. surely this isn't normal?
edit: just doing a several minutes of WhatsApp chats ... why is this thing getting warm now?
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Give it some time. Turn off "Scanning always available" in wifi settings. Turn off location/gps. Let it cool down properly. Then proceed to do your work.
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If all else fails, perform a factory reset. Also if you reboot a modern phone that many times and update it would obviously get hot
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