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[Q] Anyone else annoyed by how easy it is to get into load mode?

Trying to take screen shots in Draw Something I realized that holding home and pressing power and volume up at the same time immediately puts the phone into Load by keypress mode! Arggh. The buttons being exactly opposite makes this much to easy a thing to do accidentally in my opinion.
Just wondering.

I never screenshots that way...
Using the home button on my Galaxy S, half the time the home button would activate and the screenshot would end up being of something that you didn't want (Home screen or task manager).
I usually use the S Pen.
I've also done the edge of the palm swipe a few times too when I couldn't be bothered getting the pen out.
The SPen is the most reliable method for me though.
Rich

I find the button on the S-Pen really hard to find. I think I will do something to make a raised bump on it.

MagentaJoe said:
I find the button on the S-Pen really hard to find. I think I will do something to make a raised bump on it.
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Then it will get difficult to slide it into its designated place !!!

[FIXED]: Phone Laying Flat, HOME/BACK are Non-Responsive

So you've played with changing button sensitivity, heard about perhaps removing the screen protector, but still don't get it?
I think I might.
Try this, let me know if you guys can confirm, then perhaps we need to send info to HTC?
Unlock your screen
Place your phone on a level surface so its curved back can rock back and forth.
Enter the app drawer, so pressing HOME will actually do something.
As gently as you can, steady the phone with one hand, and touch HOME (It should work)
Now, re-enter the app drawer and press quickly on your phone's HOME key. This will cause it to quickly rock back and forth a bit and shake.
Press the home key all you want, it shouldn't work... especially the more you bang on it.
Wait 10 seconds.
Steady your phone again, press HOME gently. It should work.
The theory? Something is programmed in the phone that if it detects rapid shaking, like maybe in a pocket or being handed back and forth during watching a video... to turn off the buttons to prevent undesired actions. BUT, the curved back of the phone naturally lets this motion occur so it's triggering when it shouldn't.
If you're particularly twitchy, maybe that can cause it from time to time while even in hand too?
SOLUTION:
Run calibration tool a few times until the symptom goes away. Try alternating between pressing more firmly or more softly to make a difference. Take care to center your fingers on the letters.
If you experience bad button behavior while phone is on a flat surface, re-calibrate:
SETTINGS->Language and Keyboard->HTC Sense Input->Advanced->Run Calibration Tool

I couldn't replicate this problem. The home button works as intended while being rocked. I also haven't found to have any button response issues that some encountered.

Long813 said:
I couldn't replicate this problem. The home button works as intended while being rocked. I also haven't found to have any button response issues that some encountered.
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LOL

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LOL
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Heh, come on man... the phone has BOOM Sound, it was meant to be rocked, no?! :laugh:
Serious note though... yeah always have thought the buttons worked fine too and thought other people were crazy...
I lay it flat though casually press them, they go away and don't come back.

Also couldn't replicate it. Basically the home/back buttons work when they want to, which apparenlty is about 95% of the time. The other 5% is just purified annoyingness.
Allegedly HTC has fixed the button problem in 1.29.XXX.12 which so far has only rolled out to unbranded phones in Europe and Asia. However if you have the international phone you can install the newest Android Revolution ROM which is based on the .12 software. Everyone who has .12 seems to agree that the button sensitivity issue is gone.

Re-ran calibration tool pressing normally and it seems to have fixed it.
No amount of shaking or rapid pressing causes the phone to miss a button press.
This is with US Version of phone w/ screen protector.
If you experience bad button behavior while phone is on a flat surface, re-calibrate:
SETTINGS->Language and Keyboard->HTC Sense Input->Advanced->Run Calibration Tool

Button-less Wake!

The main defect with the Note 3 is that it requires a button-press to wake-up.
Let this thread be a collective bounty of alternative solutions until we can Slide2Wake which requires kernal changes and AT&T to unlock the bootloader.
Sign this petition in the meantime while you read on:
http://www.change.org/petitions/at-t-unlock-our-samsung-galaxy-note-3-bootloader
Working solutions:
-Use a proximity sensor app (very hit and miss) (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.omd.autoscreenon&hl=en)
-Use the S View cover (also hit and miss and unpreferred by many)
Any other solutions please add!

Why would you want a huge wake lock like that? A simple press of the home button is much easier IMHO. I'd rather not have to swipe across the screen to turn the screen on

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Why would you want a huge wake lock like that? A simple press of the home button is much easier IMHO. I'd rather not have to swipe across the screen to turn the screen on
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You're right. It's a considerable battery drain. The surprising thing is.. in the end, the smoothness of button-free operation becomes *worth it* IMHO.
I turn my phone on and off a lot to check stuff. I'll look at my to do list then press the corner SwipePad shortcut to turn it off. Then I'll remember something while moving up a bit in the line and **without even looking down for a button** and half-entranced in contemplation still I'll swipe from one side of the phone to halfway to the other and it is ON by the split second both my hands hold it to to make a note or reminder, look up something, etc. after which i'll immediately press the corner shortcut again to turn it off and my phone stays in one hand while I people-watch.
For some reason this is much more relaxed and makes me feel like the phone is like a second brain where I don't even need to create mnemonic devices called loci as much like I used to.
Maybe that's what's making my memory kind of crappy. Maybe should go back to doing that for my to-do lists. Might improve my memory. ANYWAY. my point is:
(1) it's less mechanical effort to swipe and
(2) I like to save my buttons and don't want to eventually have to replace the home button on the Note 3 for like $50 or whatever.
I guess it's not that big a deal.
If I did have that feature though I wouldn't miss anything else from past phones especially since the Note 3 is big enough to fit in one hand BARELY and could do a HALF-swipe to wake feature.
**pretends to do it now**
I'm crazy.

I would like a solution to this as well. Tried the light sensor app but that wasnt working well. Really wish we had tap-on.
I really like not hitting any physical buttons because this phone is huge and unwieldy. Still love it though.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.spazedog.xposed.additionsgb
I assigned the power button to holding down the back button. That saves a little bit of button-life.
The app also is designed to support the same while the screen is off... but it doesn't seem to work yet.
Would be super awesome though to be able to turn the screen off and on while the back button is held. Just not there yet.
Screen on with swipe is the next best.. though much more battery intensive.

Has anyone just simply tried pressing the simple wake button on the side of the phone once? I mean you already have your hand on it most of the time since it is where your fingers are if you are holding the phone in one hand.
Also for you slider guys, it takes many more muscles to frown and it is the same to slide. Much better to smile and press one single button already under your thumb when you are holding the phone.

Solarenemy68 said:
Has anyone just simply tried pressing the simple wake button on the side of the phone once? I mean you already have your hand on it most of the time since it is where your fingers are if you are holding the phone in one hand.
Also for you slider guys, it takes many more muscles to frown and it is the same to slide. Much better to smile and press one single button already under your thumb when you are holding the phone.
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Congratulations Captain Obvious. You are the first person to ever think of that!
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Read above about my experience with button-less waking in the SGS2.
Besides that, you're wrong, my thumb is actually closer to the screen than the power button when I am holding it.
And it's no effort at all. That's the whole point. It's the same slide necessary in receiving a call. No physical PUSHING required.
I can turn my phone on twice per second easily by linking one of the touch buttons to "power" as well. With zero concern for screwing up any physical buttons.
Anyway please only write in this thread if you have something that will contribute to the idea of "button-less wake"
I'm only looking for creating solutions to that.

megamorphg said:
I can turn my phone on twice per second easily by linking one of the touch buttons to "power" as well. With zero concern for screwing up any physical buttons.
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Well it looks like you've solved your own problem right? So should this be closed? I'll answer my own question, yes
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Roundtableprez said:
Well it looks like you've solved your own problem right? So should this be closed? I'll answer my own question, yes
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I'm talking about my SGS2 (last phone).
If Note 3 has a button-less wake feature then can close this.
I think that won't happen till ATT lifts the lock tho..

Best buttonless Wake Achieved
S View cover
P.s.: for those who prefer a different case: just wait till bootloader is unlocked > kernel unlocked > slide function can be made.
thread closed.

Weird Google problem when switching on screen

This has just started today. When I switch the screen on after the phones in standby it opens on the Google now screen.
So I one click the power button, the screen goes off, leave it for a bit one click the power button and the screen lights up on Google now rather than my home screen.
Any ideas what I've done to upset it?

No one else having the problem? I find when I close the double dip flip lid it presses the home button rather than shutting off the screen. Amazingly the lid just has to hover above the home button for it to open Google and the screen goes off as and when as I have it on auto timeout.

Lack of physical home button annoy anyone else yet?

While I can understand the draw of having no physical home button (more screen, yay), it has already annoyed me a few times while typing and and trying to hit the space bar and instead hitting the button.
Maybe there is a stronger sensitivity setting that I missed?
Anyone done this a lot yet? I also noticed that the ability to hide the bar stops as soon as you have the keyboard open...

I am beside myself. There are times when I am getting irritated because of complacency and then there are times when I am loving the real estate...

I am having problems swiping up for the navbar and it hits other apps. Or especially if I'm like text messaging and I swipe and my keyboard comes up. I made the nav bar stay on and it helps but I lose the real estate. Hope with root we can disable the navbar and use 3rd party nav bar on the side.

slaapliedje said:
Maybe there is a stronger sensitivity setting that I missed?
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My phone is still on preorder, so I can't check, but I'm sure I saw somewhere that there is a setting to set the required pressure to activate Home

Yeah, I could have sworn I saw that too, but damned if I can find it now...

Found the link, but no phone yet, so can't test
https://www.phonearena.com/news/How...r-rearrange-buttons-make-it-disappear_id97873

Not in the least, using transparent nav bar layer and I have a gigantic screen. If you want black nav bar always use this. Install like an app and reboot, go to settings>display>nav bar>back ground color>select black>push slider to the right

I prefer a real button

I was annoyed at first, but I do admit I love the taller screen Samsung implemented this time by using the physical/capacitive button area for more screen space, unlike other OEMs content to stick with 16:9 screens and waste that space on soft keys. After all, Samsung lets you hide the nav bar with a quick double-tap.
Having to call up the nav bar for back and recents got old fast, but a Reddit poster clued me in on a neat hidden feature: if you force-press the home button, you can side-swipe for back or recents, no swipe-up for nav bar necessary! It does take some getting used to, though.

bonerp said:
I prefer a real button
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So get rid of the Note 8. The lack of a home button was implemented on the S8 series, it is the new norm.

I am coming from S8+ so no, it doesn't bother me at all. It took all of 5 minutes to get used to it on S8+

slaapliedje said:
While I can understand the draw of having no physical home button (more screen, yay), it has already annoyed me a few times while typing and and trying to hit the space bar and instead hitting the button.
Maybe there is a stronger sensitivity setting that I missed?
Anyone done this a lot yet? I also noticed that the ability to hide the bar stops as soon as you have the keyboard open...
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no. not at all. this is how it was before. I prefer this way and loving the ability to hide the buttons too. very happy.

Actually it is a pain in the neck, especially when driving and I switched from S8, still don't like it after 6 months. Not a deal breaker, but especially with full screen apps, simple one press turns into frustrating 3,4, sometimes even 5 presses. For that reason most of the time I have full screen disabled, but that beats the whole purpose of having full screen without buttons. That also forces fingerprint reader into back, absolutely huge issue when driving and having the phone mounted. There are workarounds, like having phone unlocked when connected to BT etc, but simplest solutions are the simplest and physical keys were simplest.

Coming from the Note 4, I'm instinctively keep going to press what's not there haha.
Only had it since 11am so can't make a proper judgement yet, it has got better in the last couple of hours though, so don't think it'll be long before it becomes just as natural as hitting the button was.

RavenY2K3 said:
Coming from the Note 4, I'm instinctively keep going to press what's not there haha.
Only had it since 11am so can't make a proper judgement yet, it has got better in the last couple of hours though, so don't think it'll be long before it becomes just as natural as hitting the button was.
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but it is there and that's the beauty of the phone. all that gorgeous glass and screen with nothing to take away from it. had no problem when I used older phones and tablets that were the same way. I predict you'll adapt fairly fast. I did.

I have the nav bar auto hide (swipe up to get nav bar), even when hidden you can hard press where the home button usually is to simulate a home button push

I would of NEVER bought the Note 8 if it still had the old, ugly, 2007 iphone home button.
Its 2017, not 2007 peoples.
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pete4k said:
Actually it is a pain in the neck, especially when driving and I switched from S8, still don't like it after 6 months. Not a deal breaker, but especially with full screen apps, simple one press turns into frustrating 3,4, sometimes even 5 presses. For that reason most of the time I have full screen disabled, but that beats the whole purpose of having full screen without buttons. That also forces fingerprint reader into back, absolutely huge issue when driving and having the phone mounted. There are workarounds, like having phone unlocked when connected to BT etc, but simplest solutions are the simplest and physical keys were simplest.
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Just hard-press area where home button is. No need to wait for anything to show up.

Coming from a Pixel XL it doesn't bother me at all. Just another Learning curve.

It has a physical home. Press hard in the middle 1 inch from the bottom edge of the phone. Great move on Samsung's part.
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