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I have the chance to get a new AT&T Moto X for a great price. I'm on T-Mobile, though, and use their WiFi calling. Is it possible to root and install a T-Mobile ROM onto the AT&T Moto X?
Thanks.
Yes, I have the 1058 and flashed t mobile roms
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Wifi calling is not supported on the Moto x.
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flashallthetime said:
Yes, I have the 1058 and flashed t mobile roms
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Using it on T-Mobile you get 4g?
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osugsxr said:
Using it on T-Mobile you get 4g?
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Yes, actually 4 g LTE, tested it and download speed ran at 50mbs/sec
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Yes, I have the 1058 and flashed t mobile roms
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Can you flash the TMO ROM on an ATT Moto X using RSDLite/fastboot commands without having to unlock the bootloader?
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Can you flash the TMO ROM on an ATT Moto X using RSDLite/fastboot commands without having to unlock the bootloader?
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No, the bootloader must be unlocked to do that.
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No, the bootloader must be unlocked to do that.
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But afaik, the ATT XT1058's bootloader cannot be unlocked. So how did @flashallthetime install the TMO ROM on his ATT XT1058 without unlocking the bootloader?
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But afaik, the ATT XT1058's bootloader cannot be unlocked. So how did @flashallthetime install the TMO ROM on his ATT XT1058 without unlocking the bootloader?
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Not sure. He is in Canada so I assume he has a Rogers XT1058(same hardware as the AT&T phone) and unlocked his bootloader.
I believe there are flashable zips that can be used with a rooted phone, however the process isn't as simple as flashing the full image with rsdlite.
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But afaik, the ATT XT1058's bootloader cannot be unlocked. So how did @flashallthetime install the TMO ROM on his ATT XT1058 without unlocking the bootloader?
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Let's clarify things,
1) my bootloader is unlocked because I have a Rogers variant
2) flashing touched Roms through twrp recovery only, yes flashing flashable 1053 roms
3) I have never attempted to rsdlite any firmware other than rogers firmware
Is this clear enough, I do not want anyone to brick there phone, had 3 soft bricks to this point myself, its a frigging pain in the butt and yes they all involved flashing Roms. The moto is a great phone but its also very finicky
My suggestion is wait for your carriers firmware to be available and rsdlite it.
Yesterday I again had a soft brick just from restoring a nandroid, so I rsdlite back to the pre camera firmware, I had it downloaded already. I then accepted the new camera ota and everything went fine until I tried to flash twrp recovery, it wouldn't flash, so I tried to rsdlite back to the pre camera firmware, no go. It seems that I can't downgrade from an ota even with a unlocked boot loader
Edit: patience, obviously we are all going to receive kitkat soon enough and I believe AT&T is next up, US carriers first and then all other carriers.
Trust me I want kitkat too but not willing to jump through and dig a frigging hole I can't get out of
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flashallthetime said:
Let's clarify things,
1) my bootloader is unlocked because I have a Rogers variant
2) flashing touched Roms through twrp recovery only, yes flashing flashable 1053 roms
3) I have never attempted to rsdlite any firmware other than rogers firmware
Is this clear enough, I do not want anyone to brick there phone, had 3 soft bricks to this point myself, its a frigging pain in the butt and yes they all involved flashing Roms. The moto is a great phone but its also very finicky
My suggestion is wait for your carriers firmware to be available and rsdlite it.
Yesterday I again had a soft brick just from restoring a nandroid, so I rsdlite back to the pre camera firmware, I had it downloaded already. I then accepted the new camera ota and everything went fine until I tried to flash twrp recovery, it wouldn't flash, so I tried to rsdlite back to the pre camera firmware, no go. It seems that I can't downgrade from an ota even with a unlocked boot loader
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So my question is again, can you flash the TMO ROM on an ATT Moto X using RSDLite/fastboot even though the bootloader cannot be unlocked on the ATT XT1058?
Thanks
mschumacher69 said:
So my question is again, can you flash the TMO ROM on an ATT Moto X using RSDLite/fastboot even though the bootloader cannot be unlocked on the ATT XT1058?
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No
No
No
Wait, tomorrow you'll get your bar of chocolate
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I have a moto x on at&t in the US and I want to use it on tmobile. You guys have any recommendations on how to do this?
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I have a moto x on at&t in the US and I want to use it on tmobile. You guys have any recommendations on how to do this?
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Use rsdlite, should work fine but I have flashed both and getting slightly better battery life with the at&t version, also it seems faster, no lock screen lag where on the T-Mobile version I had a lag unlocking my device. The T-Mobile version has no bloatware
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flashallthetime said:
Use rsdlite, should work fine but I have flashed both and getting slightly better battery life with the at&t version, also it seems faster, no lock screen lag where on the T-Mobile version I had a lag unlocking my device. The T-Mobile version has no bloatware
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I thought you could't flash a different ROM on a locked bootloader phone.
So how can he flash the T-Mobile ROM on an AT&T phone if he cannot unlock the bootloader??
I don't think we are all talking about the same thing. What is rsd lite? A Rom? I'd like to keep stock android so I can get the ota updates. I just need to sim unlock
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I don't think we are all talking about the same thing. What is rsd lite? A Rom? I'd like to keep stock android so I can get the ota updates. I just need to sim unlock
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That's a different story then. You need to request the sim unlock code from at&t and hope they give it to you. Tell them you're travelling and u need to use it abroad
There might also be 3rd party services on ebay that would offer sim unlocking ur phone for a fee, but i'm not sure if it's available for the Moto X.
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That's a different story then. You need to request the sim unlock code from at&t and hope they give it to you. Tell them you're travelling and u need to use it abroad
There might also be 3rd party services on ebay that would offer sim unlocking ur phone for a fee, but i'm not sure if it's available for the Moto X.
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Haha okay sounds good. Thanks for the help. Good luck to whatever else you guys were talking about
Can the Moto X bootloader be unlocked? I ask this because from what I understand (correct me if I'm wrong), the bootloader must be unlocked in order to flash custom ROMs. Also, I'm aware that there's a Developer Edition of the Moto X that has an unlocked bootloader. This question is for the standard Moto X, not the Developer Edition. Thanks!
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Can the Moto X bootloader be unlocked? I ask this because from what I understand (correct me if I'm wrong), the bootloader must be unlocked in order to flash custom ROMs. Also, I'm aware that there's a Developer Edition of the Moto X that has an unlocked bootloader. This question is for the standard Moto X, not the Developer Edition. Thanks!
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AFAIK, there are some models can not be bootloader unlocked, the AT&T, Verizon, Nextel Mexico. Others are bootloader unlockable.
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AFAIK, there are some models can not be bootloader unlocked, the AT&T, Verizon, Nextel Mexico. Others are bootloader unlockable.
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Unfortunately, I have Verizon Wireless. I was originally planning on switching carriers in order to get a Nexus 5, but when I heard about the Moto X being $150 off for Cyber Monday, I thought I'd look into it. Must you have an unlocked bootloader in order to flash a custom ROM or can it still be done? The ability to flash a custom ROM is a must have for me.
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Unfortunately, I have Verizon Wireless. I was originally planning on switching carriers in order to get a Nexus 5, but when I heard about the Moto X being $150 off for Cyber Monday, I thought I'd look into it. Must you have an unlocked bootloader in order to flash a custom ROM or can it still be done? The ability to flash a custom ROM is a must have for me.
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Well, in order to flash a ROM, you'll need to have a recovery capable of doing so. In order to flash a recovery, you'll need an unlocked bootloader. Ergo...
The only reason bootloaders get unlocked is so that custom recoveries can be installed. Not just to flash, but also for backing up. Stock recovery doesn't really do anything but factory reset.
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Unfortunately, I have Verizon Wireless. I was originally planning on switching carriers in order to get a Nexus 5, but when I heard about the Moto X being $150 off for Cyber Monday, I thought I'd look into it. Must you have an unlocked bootloader in order to flash a custom ROM or can it still be done? The ability to flash a custom ROM is a must have for me.
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rockingondrums said:
Well, in order to flash a ROM, you'll need to have a recovery capable of doing so. In order to flash a recovery, you'll need an unlocked bootloader. Ergo...
The only reason bootloaders get unlocked is so that custom recoveries can be installed. Not just to flash, but also for backing up. Stock recovery doesn't really do anything but factory reset.
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You can root and flash roms without an unlocked bootloader. Look at the Development thread, there are root/recovery options for 4.2.2 and 4.4. There isn't much development happening. If anything we're probably going to get stock based roms for the most part.
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Unfortunately, I have Verizon Wireless. I was originally planning on switching carriers in order to get a Nexus 5, but when I heard about the Moto X being $150 off for Cyber Monday, I thought I'd look into it. Must you have an unlocked bootloader in order to flash a custom ROM or can it still be done? The ability to flash a custom ROM is a must have for me.
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Out of curiosity, why is the ability to flash a custom ROM a must-have? I felt that way at first, but many Moto X users (including myself) now believe that a combination of root, Xposed and GravityBox is enough.
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Unfortunately, I have Verizon Wireless. I was originally planning on switching carriers in order to get a Nexus 5, but when I heard about the Moto X being $150 off for Cyber Monday, I thought I'd look into it. Must you have an unlocked bootloader in order to flash a custom ROM or can it still be done? The ability to flash a custom ROM is a must have for me.
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Then get a VZW developer edition.
chaoslimits said:
You can root and flash roms without an unlocked bootloader. Look at the Development thread, there are root/recovery options for 4.2.2 and 4.4. There isn't much development happening. If anything we're probably going to get stock based roms for the most part.
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Well I know root is certainly possible, but how do you flash a rom on the Moto X without using a recovery such as CWM or TWRP?
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Well I know root is certainly possible, but how do you flash a rom on the Moto X without using a recovery such as CWM or TWRP?
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safestrap.
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safestrap.
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There's no safestrap for 4.4 yet, correct?
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You can try root http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2538896
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safestrap.
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But isn't safestrap that weird hack that leaves the original system alone and just sticks another install on the device? I wanted to get a vzw S4 until I learned I'd be stuck with the original bloated OS installed along the one I want (if I'm understanding it correctly)
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But isn't safestrap that weird hack that leaves the original system alone and just sticks another install on the device? I wanted to get a vzw S4 until I learned I'd be stuck with the original bloated OS installed along the one I want (if I'm understanding it correctly)
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Pretty much
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safestrap.
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If you can flash a custom ROM with said "safestrap," what's the point of having an unlocked bootloader? What can you do with an unlocked bootloader that you can't do without one?
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If you can flash a custom ROM with said "safestrap," what's the point of having an unlocked bootloader? What can you do with an unlocked bootloader that you can't do without one?
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You can flash other versions on your phone. I unlocked my bootloader and flashed the Verizon version, just because. I came from a Latin American version of the phone.
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You can flash other versions on your phone. I unlocked my bootloader and flashed the Verizon version, just because. I came from a Latin American version of the phone.
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I don't quite understand what you mean by "flashing other versions on your phone." My question is what's the advantage of having an unlocked bootloader. Also, are there any disadvantages of flashing a custom ROM with a safestrap?
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I don't quite understand what you mean by "flashing other versions on your phone." My question is what's the advantage of having an unlocked bootloader. Also, are there any disadvantages of flashing a custom ROM with a safestrap?
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Normally, it's to allow you to flash a custom recovery, so that you can flash the plethora of zips you can find. The disadvantage with safestrap is what I said above: It's a hack that leaves the original OS on the phone, just sitting there taking up space. You know how the S4's only came with 9 GBs free on the 16 GBs? Well, if I bought a verizon one, I'd have to safestrap CM or whatever on to the phone, so I'd be left with the original TW hog and then lose more space to CM. I mean, if you can deal with that then you're golden. But it is still a disadvantage. And I wouldn't do it (which is why I ended up not buying the S4, even though I really wanted it).
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Normally, it's to allow you to flash a custom recovery, so that you can flash the plethora of zips you can find. The disadvantage with safestrap is what I said above: It's a hack that leaves the original OS on the phone, just sitting there taking up space. You know how the S4's only came with 9 GBs free on the 16 GBs? Well, if I bought a verizon one, I'd have to safestrap CM or whatever on to the phone, so I'd be left with the original TW hog and then lose more space to CM. I mean, if you can deal with that then you're golden. But it is still a disadvantage. And I wouldn't do it (which is why I ended up not buying the S4, even though I really wanted it).
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So if I want to replace the original OS with another ROM I'd have no choice but to unlock the bootloader and use a custom recovery? Also, is it possible that an OTA update could break the safestrap, or stop it from working anymore?
Ok, rather than this unnecessary back and forth, if you have Verizon and "flashing custom ROMS is a must for me" like you say then just get the Verizon Developer Edition which has an unlocked bootloader and be done with it.
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Ok, rather than this unnecessary back and forth, if you have Verizon and "flashing custom ROMS is a must for me" like you say then just get the Verizon Developer Edition which has an unlocked bootloader and be done with it.
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I was simply trying to understand if there's any practical advantage of having an unlocked bootloader vs. using other methods such as a safestrap. If I can get a custom Moto X at a discounted price on a 2-year contract, I'd much rather go that route instead of paying the retail price for a Developer Edition.
Hi, I got an AT&T XT1058 from ebay. I'm in teh UK so I'd really like to flash it with a stock UK ROM. I've had a look on here and with the huge amount of info I can't figure out if this is possible and which rom to use. it's 4.4.2 that's on the phone at teh moment which i believe can't be downgraded or unlocked easily, is that right?
any help would be greatly appreciated
cheers
To flash any Rom besides the Stock, Signed Moto ROM for your carrier and model X, you need to unlock the bootloader.
While Moto doesn't give out the Bootloader Unlock Code for the ATT USA XT1058, since you have 4.4.2 on it still, you should be able to use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader. (NOTE: please boot into fastboot/bootloader on the phone, and verify the version on the 2nd line is 30.B4 which is correct for 4.4.2).
Once you use sunshine, you can flash 3rd party recoveries, roms, etc.
While I have NOT done it, I've seen posts of ATT US Xt1058 owners flashing with Parts of the XT1053 rom to remove bloat, etc. (flashing the modems will likely change which wireless bands the phone can connect to). I do not advise flashing another carrier's rom. It could get messy, especially around UPDATE time. And I've seen some lose Cellular and WIFI flashing the wrong modem files.
One final thing. The ATT US XT1058 is SIM/Carrier locked too. So in order to use a non-ATT SIM in it you'll need to obtain a SIM unlock code. You should be able to get this from any web site selling unlock codes on the internet.
KidJoe said:
To flash any Rom besides the Stock, Signed Moto ROM for your carrier and model X, you need to unlock the bootloader.
While Moto doesn't give out the Bootloader Unlock Code for the ATT USA XT1058, since you have 4.4.2 on it still, you should be able to use Sunshine to unlock the bootloader. (NOTE: please boot into fastboot/bootloader on the phone, and verify the version on the 2nd line is 30.B4 which is correct for 4.4.2).
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hey, thanks for the very helpful response unfortunately i seem to have suffered from a bout of stupidity writing that and it's 4.4.4 that i've got on the phone! how does that affect things? also as an aside the sim is unlocked so i can use any sim so at least that's something...
thanks again
hardflipman said:
hey, thanks for the very helpful response unfortunately i seem to have suffered from a bout of stupidity writing that and it's 4.4.4 that i've got on the phone! how does that affect things? also as an aside the sim is unlocked so i can use any sim so at least that's something...
thanks again
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To unlock the bootloader on the ATT XT1058 Moto X, there are only two possible ways..
The China Middleman thread (in the general section), although he only has codes for certain date range of phones (depends on the Assembly Date of your phone), BUT he has recently stopped responding again. There is no telling if/when it will start up again
Sunshine, which doesn't work with 4.4.4. However you can always try it since it wont charge you if it doesn't work. (i.e. it checks your phone, if it will work, if wont, it tells you and exits without charging you).
4.4.4 can't be temp rooted either.
So you are pretty much stuck stock ATT, and then just get it sim unlocked to use it with your carrier.
KidJoe said:
To unlock the bootloader on the ATT XT1058 Moto X, there are only two possible ways..
The China Middleman thread (in the general section), although he only has codes for certain date range of phones (depends on the Assembly Date of your phone), BUT he has recently stopped responding again. There is no telling if/when it will start up again
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thanks for the reply. I guess i'll give the china middleman a try. I'd really like to get rid of the ATT address book, the fact that it perpetually shows as 4g connection and have the phone speak to me in a not american accent!
cheers
the same here
at&t xt1058 with stock android 4.4.4 (ota updated from 4.4.2)
system version 212.44.26.ghost_att.ATT.en.US
build no KXA21.12-L1.26
been using this phone in Europe, Greece with another carriers SIM card
everything ok, except for the LTE bands (in Greece I need bands 3,7,20) and the AT&T bloatware i wanna remove
would like to root, but i'm not able to unlock via motorola's website
let me know if u had any success via the china middleman, or if u find another way
thanks
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thanks for the reply. I guess i'll give the china middleman a try.
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cxp7 said:
let me know if u had any success via the china middleman, or if u find another way
thanks
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As I said.. the China Middleman has stopped responding again.
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As I said.. the China Middleman has stopped responding again.
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I'm on Rogers xt1058 (16GB)
Is there any way (assuming I can unlock the BL) to get developer edition ROM?
MadPriest said:
I'm on Rogers xt1058 (16GB)
Is there any way (assuming I can unlock the BL) to get developer edition ROM?
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For the Rogers XT1058, Moto does offer the Bootloader Unlock code for free from their web site -> https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth it will void your warranty
The GSM Dev Edtion is the XT1053. It has different radio/modem files, its hardware supports different bands (less LTE bands). I never recommend flashing another model's ROM as we have seen loss of cellular in some cases, where even flashing the original firmware back didn't fix.
Once you unlock your bootloader and root, you can remove and freeze any bloat on the phone (freezing is preferred because the next OTA might require it to be there).
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Once you unlock your bootloader and root, you can remove and freeze any bloat on the phone (freezing is preferred because the next OTA might require it to be there).
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Thank you for the reply
I'm on 4.4.4, I understand there's no root for me
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Thank you for the reply
I'm on 4.4.4, I understand there's no root for me
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Only if you can't unlock your boot loader. But as I said, moto does give out the unlock codes on their web site for the Rogers xt1058
Also, without unlocking the boot loader, you can only flash the rom for your phone model and its carrier branding.
I see
Thank you for the answers
I knew the second part, was not sure about the first one.
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Hi guys,
total n00b question.
A friend of mine brought an AT&T Moto X (1st generation) phone with him for me from the U.S. to Germany.
He bought it from the motorola.com page directly 2 years ago through the Thanksgiving promo, never got it activated and its still stock and everything, never used before.
He paid the full retail price of 400$ at the time, does it however still come with a sim/netlock?
I thought since it didn't come with a contract (where you pay only a few $ and you are bound to a 1y/2y contract) and he paid the full 400$ for it, it doesn't have any sim/net lock?
Sadly I don't have a nano sim card to try it out, before I order one from my carrier I was hoping someone could help me out with this
I know that simlock threads are not allowed, I'm not asking for an unlock, just whether a retail 400$ phone has that lock or not?
Thanks in advance!
If it's stock and on 4.4.2 or below, invest in Sunshine to unlock your bootloader. I'm not sure if AT&T sim-locked their Moto Xs. They should provide the code for free, if necessary, though since the phone was paid in full.
Thanks for the quick reply, already looked into SuneShine for unlocking the BL (its a shame that I didn't pick the T-Mobile version over the AT&T, hmm)
But worth spending another 25$ for it!
Now I'm still curious about the sim/netlock.
From what I found out by googling and reading for hours, if it has a simlock, AT&T will not unlock it cause I've never been a customer and it never was hooked up to an AT&T account, kinda bad if you ask me for a full price cell phone... The T-Mobile version comes 100% sim and BL unlocked...
Moto chat support cant help, they didn't even know that there are different versions of the Moto X 1st Gen...
It's usually less than 20 dollars to unlock them on a website that offers Sim unlocking. Not sure if at&t devices are usually OK to do so, but I would think they are. The carriers usually charge more even... In Canada anyway. ?
OK, thanks a lot!
I'm really just surprised that if you pay the full retail price for a phone it can still be sim/netlocked...
Hope you guys don't mind asking me another few questions, I'm just transiting over from my Razr I so a few things are different
If I don't need a custom recovery but planning on installing a different official Moto firmware which is signed by Moto (would love to flash the EU firmware to have full German language support) do I still need to unlock the BL or will this work with a locked BL since its an official Moto firmware?
Also are there any files I should not flash, therefore remove from the xml?
And I know that the BL unlock has nothing to do with the sim unlock, but any change if I unlock the BL and flash a different firmware, I won't need to enter a sim unlock code then?
I'm just trying to get as many answers before I try it and find out the "hard" way it won't work and that it results in a completely bricked device in the end...
AND sorry, but another question
Are the LTE bands hardware or software coded? Cause we use different bands over here in Europe and I know from the Sony Z1C you can activate all bands software-wise, so I was thinking maybe its the same with the Moto X?
Thanks again!
Hello, I was wondering if I also could install a pure Android on my at&t Moto X 2014?
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mmaslo1124 said:
Hello, I was wondering if I also could install a pure Android on my at&t Moto X 2014?
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Wrong section, This is the 2013 section. And this thread has nothing to do with your question, that's called thread hijacking.
So you should go to the Moto X 2014 section, and if you don't see a thread on the same sort of topic.... Then post your own thread in the Q&A section. ?
So I read an insane number of pages and somewhere I found this great page:
https://www.att.com/deviceunlock/?#/
Long story short, I reveived a nano sim card today, AT&T Moto X is locked, contacted AT&T via the above mentioned website, it took 2 days and today I received my sim unlock code via email from AT&T for free, no account with them needed and it works!
dagoban said:
If I don't need a custom recovery but planning on installing a different official Moto firmware which is signed by Moto (would love to flash the EU firmware to have full German language support) do I still need to unlock the BL or will this work with a locked BL since its an official Moto firmware?
Also are there any files I should not flash, therefore remove from the xml?
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With the bootloader on the ATT XT1058 being locked, you'll only be able to flash Moto Signed Roms for your phone's CID or carrier branding. You will not be able to flash the XT1052 EU rom, or other X roms. Only the ATT XT1058.
If you are lucky and your ATT XT1058 has not yet been upgraded to Android 4.4.4 and bootoader 30.B7, you should be able to use JCase's Sunshine tool to unlock the bootloader. Note: Because this is a HACK, do NOT try to re-lock the bootloader after using it, or you will be permanently bootloader locked.
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And I know that the BL unlock has nothing to do with the sim unlock, but any change if I unlock the BL and flash a different firmware, I won't need to enter a sim unlock code then?
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I don't believe flashing a different ROM would give you SIM unlock.
You're only option is getting it from the Carrier if you meet their terms/conditions. Or buying a SIM unlock code from an online seller.
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AND sorry, but another question
Are the LTE bands hardware or software coded? Cause we use different bands over here in Europe and I know from the Sony Z1C you can activate all bands software-wise, so I was thinking maybe its the same with the Moto X?
Thanks again!
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I've read different things. So I can't say for sure which is correct.
I know that the Verizon X, XT1060, initially game supporting only LTE Band 13. Band 4 was later enabled by firmware update.
But I've also seen posts of some losing their entire cellular radio when flashing other model's full roms, and not getting it back by flashing the correct rom. (I don't recall the full details, sorry!).
On other phones, I've seen things like "edits" to turn on other bands. But no so for the 2013 X.
So I wouldn't mess with it.
Thanks for the explanations @KidJoe
Until know I didn't know that a signed Moto firmware is not just bound to the model but also to a CID, always thought you could flash any region firmware over the phone as long as its the same model.
Sunshine is def. an option, I didn't take the OTA (even thou it reminds me at least once a day cause I suspected already there would be more exploits available with a lower android OS.
SIM unlock is no problem anymore, AT&T provided me the unlock key via website request (took me a while to find that link, thou) and you don't need to have an account with them and the phone does NOT need to be hooked to an AT&T contract.
About the LTE bands:
OK, I don't want to mess with the modem / radio and lose all bands in the end but could I just flash the system files from the EU version via fastboot?
Which files should I flash and which files should I avoid flashing?
Basicially what I'm trying to achieve is getting German as android language and not just have German as keyboard language.
Or is German included in the CM11 as well cause then I imagine it would be much easier to just flash CM11 without damaging any bands...
All in all, I'm just looking for a fully stable KK OS that is in German
Thanks again for your replies!
dagoban said:
About the LTE bands:
OK, I don't want to mess with the modem / radio and lose all bands in the end but could I just flash the system files from the EU version via fastboot?
Which files should I flash and which files should I avoid flashing?
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You could try using mFastboot and flash only System.img... BUT!!!! Its going to cause issues with OTA updates, and having mismatched parts always increases the risks for bricking and/or things just not working correctly!! So I usually don't recommend mixing things up.
dagoban said:
Basicially what I'm trying to achieve is getting German as android language and not just have German as keyboard language.
Or is German included in the CM11 as well cause then I imagine it would be much easier to just flash CM11 without damaging any bands...
All in all, I'm just looking for a fully stable KK OS that is in German
Thanks again for your replies!
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I've not messed with adding additional languages. Nor have I used CM as I like my Moto features too much, and stock (rooted) runs just fine here.
I have the XT1058 on 4.4.4 and I have been having no luck in finding a way to unlock the BL. Is there anyway at all?
hexbox117 said:
I have the XT1058 on 4.4.4 and I have been having no luck in finding a way to unlock the BL. Is there anyway at all?
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There is no way now.
Google says no, as does many posts in many threads on this forum.
It's because AT&T version is sim locked?
Nicolae-Daniel said:
It's because AT&T version is sim locked?
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sIm Lock, aka carrier lock, has nothing to do with bootloader unlock.
To bootloader unlock, you need the unique code for the phone. Likely due to carrier contracts, Moto doesn't give out the bootloader unlock code for ATT, Verizon, or Republic Wireless, but does for many/most other carriers. At one point there was a web site in China and a Middleman who access to Moto's list or database of codes which included even those Moto didn't publicly make available (I.e ATT, VZW, RW) but that dried up a while ago. JCase found a vulnerability in the bootloader on the 2013 X, and came out with/updated his Sunshine tool with a hack exploiting that vulnerability to unlock the bootloader (without having the unique code) on the 2013 X too, but it doesn't work once the X has been upgraded to 4.4.4. Sunshine DOES work on the 2013 X if it has never been upgraded past 4.4.3.
Thanks for letting me know. I got the phone in August and it was on 4.4.3, but then I accidentally installed 4.4.4. If only I had known that I wouldn't be able to root it after that.... It really sucks because I really want Viper4Android on my Moto X.
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Jcase has been teasing us with word of the next sunshine version working for 4.4.4. It was projected to release early January but they must not be done putting all their awesome into that sauce. Be patient and I bet you'll have an unlocked bl soon enough.
In an abundance of caution, I would probably hold off taking the lollipop update coming soon in case it patches whatever vulnerability they are exploiting.
hexbox117 said:
Thanks for letting me know. I got the phone in August and it was on 4.4.3, but then I accidentally installed 4.4.4. If only I had known that I wouldn't be able to root it after that.... It really sucks because I really want Viper4Android on my Moto X.
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4.4.3 or 4.4.2? because I wasn't aware that there was a 4.4.3 for ATT.
I checked it as soon as I got it and it was 4.4.3. A few days after, a notification for 4.4.4 popped up and I accidentally hit install. I got the phone August 10th, 2014.
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Same problem with me too. Eagerly updated to 4.4.4. Now no option to unlock bootloader. Waiting for ota L update which seems to take long time in india. Hope sm1 cracksnthis case soon
I wonder if Android 5 will have an exploit or something to unlock the boot loader.
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azu89 said:
Same problem with me too. Eagerly updated to 4.4.4. Now no option to unlock bootloader. Waiting for ota L update which seems to take long time in india. Hope sm1 cracksnthis case soon
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India? What model X do you have, and from what carrier?
Often times the 2013 X in EMEA has been an XT1052.
Have you tried checking Moto's home page to get the unlock code? https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth
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India? What model X do you have, and from what carrier?
Often times the 2013 X in EMEA has been an XT1052.
Have you tried checking Moto's home page to get the unlock code? https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth
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Ya mine is XT1052 .I checked the site ,in find device section there's
moto xCanada / Rogers
Moto xUS / Sprint, USC, TMO
Moto x Latin America
Mine is Asian retail Indian model so how to find if unlocking is avbl?
If I proceed with (moto x US) and generate serial key of my phone using SDK tools and check for unlock bootloader in site, my phn won't get bricked or anything right? That's a doubt I have.
azu89 said:
Ya mine is XT1052 .I checked the site ,in find device section there's
moto xCanada / Rogers
Moto xUS / Sprint, USC, TMO
Moto x Latin America
Mine is Asian retail Indian model so how to find if unlocking is avbl?
If I proceed with (moto x US) and generate serial key of my phone using SDK tools and check for unlock bootloader in site, my phn won't get bricked or anything right? That's a doubt I have.
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You should be able to use the same web site to get the bootloader unlock code, many others with the European and Asian XT1052 have been able to get their bootloader unlock code there.
If you get the code in an email, it will either work, or give you an error if its not the right code. It will not brick your phone.
KidJoe said:
You should be able to use the same web site to get the bootloader unlock code, many others with the European and Asian XT1052 have been able to get their bootloader unlock code there.
If you get the code in an email, it will either work, or give you an error if its not the right code. It will not brick your phone.
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Thanks.i will try then
Is there a way to achieve temporary root on att moto x 2013 without wiping the device
km8j said:
Is there a way to achieve temporary root on att moto x 2013 without wiping the device
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See the one stop shop for root thread in general. Right at the top of the page.
All current root methods are there, based on device versions and state. ?
There is a untested way to unlock the bootloader but is very risky, you must open your device. Anyway if you are so brave to try this procedure http://forum.xda-developers.com/droid-ultra/general/droid-ultra-maxx-brick-recovery-t2830806 look at this guide at the second point, first you must drill the plate on the ram chip, you must short the right pin on your moto x to ground (i attach a photo,pointed by the orange arrow) then follow this guide http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/how-to-resurrecting-bricked-moto-x-t2629057
THIS IS A VERY RISKY PROCEDURE: YOU CAN BRICK YOUR DEVICE!!!
I wouldn't. ^^^^
Lol
thankyou
KidJoe said:
India? What model X do you have, and from what carrier?
Often times the 2013 X in EMEA has been an XT1052.
Have you tried checking Moto's home page to get the unlock code? https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth
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i tried as you told and turns out that my device can be unlocked! :victory::good:
thankyou for the help.
just unlocking/rooting wouldnt prevent ota updates from motorola right?