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Note 2 Stolen.. Should I buy THE ONE!

Here I am again guys..
My samsung NOTE 2 has been lately stolen .. And I am in the process of looking for a new phone that could be as pleasurable as the note 2.
My eyes have been set on the HTC one for some time now, but most of the reviews are making me shaky about that decision.. So what do you guys think? Should I go for it.. PROS & CONS? Camera, speed, etc?

Camera great, speed amazing. You might dislike the battery life coming from the note. Other then that, go for it.
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bellumus said:
Camera great, speed amazing. You might dislike the battery life coming from the note. Other then that, go for it.
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Battery is actually better then on note 2 ...
As for camera take a look at photo thread many photos there , speed well lol ... If you ever used vanilla 4.3 sense 5 on 4.3 is even faster , it's pretty much faster even then s800 devices regarding the system speed , screen is miles ahead of anything currently available , speakers are out of this world and build quality / design is unmatched , gaming lasts about 4 / 4:30 of asphalt 8. Feel in the hand is awesome , updates are very fast this year , we have both sense and ge already on 4.3 a month ago so it's on par with n4 , the only thing you'll maybe mind is screen size since you're coming from note 2 , gaming is of course better on larger screen , tho performance of the one in games is way ahead of note 2.
And lastly if you care about flashing / development one pretty much has the best roms period , if you like customisation nothing on xda comes close to viper rom. It simply had everything you can think of and more. Dig thru some threads a bit , the best thing would be testing the device yourself in a store.
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this is why I love the forums around here because I can always get an argument and results So why is it better or worse then the note 2?

Shan89 said:
Battery is actually better then on note 2 ...
As for camera take a look at photo thread many photos there , speed well lol ... If you ever used vanilla 4.3 sense 5 on 4.3 is even faster , it's pretty much faster even then s800 devices regarding the system speed , screen is miles ahead of anything currently available , speakers are out of this world and build quality / design is unmatched , gaming lasts about 4 / 4:30 of asphalt 8. Feel in the hand is awesome , updates are very fast this year , we have both sense and ge already on 4.3 a month ago so it's on par with n4 , the only thing you'll maybe mind is screen size since you're coming from note 2 , gaming is of course better on larger screen , tho performance of the one in games is way ahead of note 2.
And lastly if you care about flashing / development one pretty much has the best roms period , if you like customisation nothing on xda comes close to viper rom. It simply had everything you can think of and more. Dig thru some threads a bit , the best thing would be testing the device yourself in a store.
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WOW! What rom and kernel are you using? I get around 2 hours of use. I never had the Note 2 so I cant compare it with that, but 4 hrs with 50% left is great!
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insanehadi said:
this is why I love the forums around here because I can always get an argument and results So why is it better or worse then the note 2?
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Its better because its faster, better camera, WAY better build quality, and I hate touchwiz. If you want a large phone, then I would wait for the One Max. Its supposed to come out on Oct 15 according to rumors.

Shan89 said:
Battery is actually better then on note 2 ...
As for camera take a look at photo thread many photos there , speed well lol ... If you ever used vanilla 4.3 sense 5 on 4.3 is even faster , it's pretty much faster even then s800 devices regarding the system speed , screen is miles ahead of anything currently available , speakers are out of this world and build quality / design is unmatched , gaming lasts about 4 / 4:30 of asphalt 8. Feel in the hand is awesome , updates are very fast this year , we have both sense and ge already on 4.3 a month ago so it's on par with n4 , the only thing you'll maybe mind is screen size since you're coming from note 2 , gaming is of course better on larger screen , tho performance of the one in games is way ahead of note 2.
And lastly if you care about flashing / development one pretty much has the best roms period , if you like customisation nothing on xda comes close to viper rom. It simply had everything you can think of and more. Dig thru some threads a bit , the best thing would be testing the device yourself in a store.
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exactly the things i wanted to hear! I think I am going for this phone .. and to be honest I was kind of getting bored with the huge note 2 screen! thank you for all the things you have said .. it really helped !

You have said it yourself this device is THE One
1. the performance is amazing ... it can handle whatever you throw at it no matter what and it handles multitasking with ease
2.the camera is amazing what ever you you do the photo comes out great
3. 32GB on board .. "i would prefer the 64GB " but its really big unless you shoot a lot of videos
4.the feel when you hold the device is uncomparable its amazing
5.the speakers are great ... i used to listen through headphones but now i only watch shows on them
6. the screen is great but when i applied a screen protector some of the visibility in the sun is gone
cons "before you buy"
1. check the camera for low light shots coz some of them produce pinkish effect
2 check the speakers for crack and pop at high volume

aooga said:
WOW! What rom and kernel are you using? I get around 2 hours of use. I never had the Note 2 so I cant compare it with that, but 4 hrs with 50% left is great!
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that was viper rom elemental x kernel battery saving installation. , currently on latest insertcoin , stock similar results.
insanehadi said:
exactly the things i wanted to hear! I think I am going for this phone .. and to be honest I was kind of getting bored with the huge note 2 screen! thank you for all the things you have said .. it really helped !
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Np mate , glad it helped.
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insanehadi said:
Here I am again guys..
My samsung NOTE 2 has been lately stolen .. And I am in the process of looking for a new phone that could be as pleasurable as the note 2.
My eyes have been set on the HTC one for some time now, but most of the reviews are making me shaky about that decision.. So what do you guys think? Should I go for it.. PROS & CONS? Camera, speed, etc?
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So you go to bmw showroom and ask them shall I buy this car? Offcourse they are going to sell you the car. I hope you get what I mean. Otherwise just carry on.
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snapdragon 805 support.....

hi guys, what you think about the snapdragon version now that the nexus 6 has it...i mean is it better to get the s805 over the exynos....because the nexus is like the android benchmark phone ( not performance but support)...so maybe apps developers will support this version more....what you think...

We will have to wait and see the first Snapdragon 805 phone is the Galaxy Note 4 and so far on AT&T and T-Mobile, it's a beast. If your a diehard mobile gamer, there will be lag on GTA: San Andreas on Max Graphics. However other games like modern combat 5 play awesome.

no i am not a gamer...i just want the apps to run smoothly...even facebook stutter on my S4...the apps are not optimized that good....

We lucked out these phones are similarly speced and feel that we will benefit from it.
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yeah, there is a problem, now there is a reason to buy each one of the versions, the exynos is better right now, but in the future the s805 will get better support.....

Lol let the CM come. Just a few weeks(even days or hours ). At that point Sd805 will definitely be a winner with all the mods and add-ons. It has always been that way

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Lol let the CM come. Just a few weeks(even days or hours ). At that point Sd805 will definitely be a winner with all the mods and add-ons. It has always been that way
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If you gonna use cm it means you dont really need note 4 features just go for nexus 6 it will be better with custom roms anyway.
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no i am not a gamer...i just want the apps to run smoothly...even facebook stutter on my S4...the apps are not optimized that good....
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The dont really optimize for a soc. Like some of the games always lagged on quallcomm devices. And scrolling stutter always happen art runtime gonna fix that probably or i always fixed it with xuimod or a better governer.

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If you gonna use cm it means you dont really need note 4 features just go for nexus 6 it will be better with custom roms anyway.
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The dont really optimize for a soc. Like some of the games always lagged on quallcomm devices. And scrolling stutter always happen art runtime gonna fix that probably or i always fixed it with xuimod or a better governer.
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Chrome and Facebook stutters often for me too. Running ART on 805. Does Dalvik help? Any solutions?

tmac31 said:
If you gonna use cm it means you dont really need note 4 features just go for nexus 6 it will be better with custom roms anyway.
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Agreed. If I were you, I'd return the note ASAP and wait just a couple more weeks for that sexy nexy. You'll save yourself a lot of time and hassle waiting for stable updates, gain access to TONS of mods, and save a little green along the way.

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If you gonna use cm it means you dont really need note 4 features just go for nexus 6 it will be better with custom roms anyway.
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I'd keep the Note if I were you.
The Note 4 Snapdragon probably won't be as good in terms of support as the Nexus 6, but it will be more than good enough I'd guess, based on the volume of support the Note 3 Snapdragon variant got. Plus there's some indication that this Nexus 6, owing to its higher price and phablet size might not get the popularity that the previous generation of Nexus phones got. It'll still be better support wise, but the price advantage the Nexus had is mostly gone.
Hardware wise, I don't think the AMOLED on the Nexus will be as good as the AMOLED on this phone (will wait for reviews). We should wait for reviews I think. My guess though is that the camera, screen, and a few other features will likely be better on the Note, plus it has an S-Pen. The other issue is a lack of a removable battery and expandable storage, so if you are like me and keep a lot of FLAC, you'll have to buy the higher end version (eroding the Nexus price advantage even more).
Keep the Note 4, wait for the Nexus 6 reviews, and go to a store to play around with a Nexus after it comes out.

A look at the leaked Lollipop TouchWiz build.

A look at the leaked Lollipop build on the Note 3. Should be pretty much the same for the Note 4.
Looks very nice indeed! Especially the Dialer, Settings overview and Previews look much better than on 4.4.4.
Very promising!
http://www.androidauthority.com/loo...ational-install-instructions-included-576552/

Nice nice.

Which someone would v port the Lockean

I personally don't like the Vanilla flavor of Lollipop on my Nexus 7, the TouchWiz overlay is essential to complete Lollipop. :good:

I've got the leaked L build flashed on my Note 3 (N9005) since Christmas Eve, timing couldn't be better.
It performs way more fluidly and consistently than the Note 4 (N910C) on 4.4.4. If this is what Lollipop brings to the table for Android, I can't wait until the OTA drops. Samsung, it's 2015, and your flagship's been waiting months!

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I've got the leaked L build flashed on my Note 3 (N9005) since Christmas Eve, timing couldn't be better.
It performs way more fluidly and consistently than the Note 4 (N910C) on 4.4.4. If this is what Lollipop brings to the table for Android, I can't wait until the OTA drops. Samsung, it's 2015, and your flagship's been waiting months!
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Don't nag! Does your Note 4 only work on 5.0?

I experienced lollipop on my S5 and I isn't that fluid at all, now having a note 4 I hope it will be.Shame there are no news when it will be released....

Lollipop users - is the calculator bug still there?

henklbr said:
Don't nag! Does your Note 4 only work on 5.0?
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when it's up to me it has nothing to do with nagging, this is a discussion site. My Note 4 just isn't fluid in daily use and my fingerprint scanner is more a gimmick than a useful feature. Reading the posts about 5.0 being more fluid i'm also waiting for this update. Until then I almost don't install any software. I'm still not sure if selling my Note 3 was a wise decision.

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when it's up to me it has nothing to do with nagging, this is a discussion site. My Note 4 just isn't fluid in daily use and my fingerprint scanner is more a gimmick than a useful feature. Reading the posts about 5.0 being more fluid i'm also waiting for this update. Until then I almost don't install any software. I'm still not sure if selling my Note 3 was a wise decision.
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if your note 4 is not fluid with stock then either it needs a reset or probably something wrong with your device

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I personally don't like the Vanilla flavor of Lollipop on my Nexus 7, the TouchWiz overlay is essential to complete Lollipop. :good:
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I'm the opposite. I'm loving Lollipop vanilla but I cry and cringe every time I see or use TouchWiz.
I just wish someone would leak the Note 4 TW Lollipop build soon. Or at least Samsung release it. I just can't stand the lag on 4.4.4 TW. Most of all the multitasking switcher.

I think Note 3 is better than Note 4 because its better optimized system and we will see if it'll change with Lollipop for the Note 4, but this is always going to be this way on newer devices. Note 3 works for me much better and is fluently than the 4 is @ this time.

I find the recent apps menu to work flawlessly on my note N910F...idk why so many people have problems with that.

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I think Note 3 is better than Note 4 because its better optimized system and we will see if it'll change with Lollipop for the Note 4, but this is always going to be this way on newer devices. Note 3 works for me much better and is fluently than the 4 is @ this time.
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Which variant of Note 3 and Note 4 are you talking about? I had a Note 3 Snapdragon and now I have an Exynos Note 4 and surely Note 4 is smoother, faster and has a little better battery life.I am very satified and Lollipop is around the corner to perfect the expierience

Both Snapdragon but I would'n say the CPU makes the difference since Note 3 is working perfectly. I'm not saying the Note 4 is bad, but the Note 3 is working better on stock ROM's.

My old snapdragon note 3 is wiped nothing installed and on latest stock. Its definetly worse than my exynos note 4 and not even close.
And old touchwiz just sucks slow and laggy i wouldnt buy note 4 if they didnt change it.

is the leaked build 64 bit ? 64 bit kernel for exynos with armv8 instruction set ?

Nope, Samsung will not be adding 64-bit support for the note 4 most likely nor for the note 3...

dede99 said:
I think Note 3 is better than Note 4 because its better optimized system and we will see if it'll change with Lollipop for the Note 4, but this is always going to be this way on newer devices. Note 3 works for me much better and is fluently than the 4 is @ this time.
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You have right I find the note 3 also better than note 4 much more stable in performance and feeling

how would u know? do u work for samsung? i think not.. oh and the note 3 DOES NOT have a 64bit chip. please dont flood with useless wrong information

Note 4 to get s6 TouchWiz

Hi guys, thought you'd be interested in the following article
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...id-5-1-update-in-H1-2015#.VRbusagHzGc.twitter
Fingers crossed for Q2/Q3!
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I tried s6 in store. There isnt much difference with note 4 lollipop. There is some small changes could be good for note 4 too. Like some buttons moved down tabs button on browser and all buttons in gallery etc.
In performance i saw no difference even s6 had stutters on animations. And they say camera launch very fast but it was pretty same with my exynos note 4.in night mode s6 is faster it was all.
And there is no multitasking button lag. Note 4 still has initial 0.5 sec delay if its your 1st press for while but later than if you keep spamming on both it was same speed app switches was faster on note 4.
And it was heating alot.(it wasnt on charge) dunno but it didnt feel very fast it was nearly identical with my exynos note 4.

tmac31 said:
I tried s6 in store. There isnt much difference with note 4 lollipop. There is some small changes could be good for note 4 too. Like some buttons moved down tabs button on browser and all buttons in gallery etc.
In performance i saw no difference even s6 had stutters on animations. And they say camera launch very fast but it was pretty same with my exynos note 4.in night mode s6 is faster it was all.
And there is no multitasking button lag. Note 4 still has initial 0.5 sec delay if its your 1st press for while but later than if you keep spamming on both it was same speed app switches was faster on note 4.
And it was heating alot.(it wasnt on charge) dunno but it didnt feel very fast it was nearly identical with my exynos note 4.
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I guess it all depends on what apps are running already in the background. I've found on my Note 4 that a number of apps auto restart in the background which slows down the CPU performance. Sadly the only way to control apps restarting or refreshing in the background is to root and if you've just bought your phone, you're unlikely to want to root your phone and void the warranty.
I'm just hoping for a smoother feel. The new s6 TouchWiz was tested on the snapdragon chip but Samsung used their own chip like you said. This is a little worrying in respect of all previous models with snapdragon chips. Just have to wait and see I guess.
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leedsnyc said:
I guess it all depends on what apps are running already in the background. I've found on my Note 4 that a number of apps auto restart in the background which slows down the CPU performance. Sadly the only way to control apps restarting or refreshing in the background is to root and if you've just bought your phone, you're unlikely to want to root your phone and void the warranty.
I'm just hoping for a smoother feel. The new s6 TouchWiz was tested on the snapdragon chip but Samsung used their own chip like you said. This is a little worrying in respect of all previous models with snapdragon chips. Just have to wait and see I guess.
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Background apps there for s6 too you cant avoid it. I dont see any slowdowns on my exynos note 4 lollipop. Dont expect alot of difference if you dont like current lollipop on note 4. Cuz s6 and note 4 was very similar on my test.

The animations on the S6 are smoother and better looking overall I don't get how people can't see them lol...From my point of view it does look really fast and better than the current Lollipop build on our Note 4 devices.Let's hope we get the new UI it would really benefit the note 4.

Ashatar said:
The animations on the S6 are smoother and better looking overall I don't get how people can't see them lol...From my point of view it does look really fast and better than the current Lollipop build on our Note 4 devices.Let's hope we get the new UI it would really benefit the note 4.
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Well they are not, even it has animation stutters. Better looking maybe but definetly not smoother tried on like 4 different phones all had stutters generally. It could be cuz pre relaese software its ok but how do you have the idea its faster and smoother while its definetly not atm atleast not from exynos note 4.

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Well they are not, even it has animation stutters. Better looking maybe but definetly not smoother tried on like 4 different phones all had stutters generally. It could be cuz pre relaese software its ok but how do you have the idea its faster and smoother while its definetly not atm atleast not from exynos note 4.
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I looked at some review of the phone and it looked smooth, I agree that I did see some small stutter but it isn't that noticeable.I am not saying that my note 4 SD isn't smooth but the S6 looks smoother to me.Also look at how the dialer opens fast as well as contacts and some other stock apps.

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I looked at some review of the phone and it looked smooth as hell.I am not sating that my note 4 SD isn't smooth but the S6 looks smoother to me.
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i dont know lollipop on sd but exynos note 4 was alot smoother on kitkat. dunno how is the difference now but s6 and exynos note on lollipop is very very similar on performace atleast for now. i dunno vids i tried myself. dialer and contacts were same loads under 0.5 sec generally for both so its instant mostly

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i dont know lollipop on sd but exynos note 4 was alot smoother on kitkat. dunno how is the difference now but s6 and exynos note on lollipop is very very similar on performace atleast for now. i dunno vids i tried myself. dialer and contacts were same loads under 0.5 sec generally for both so its instant mostly
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Well maybe because you have Exynos.Still, although I am satisfied with the performance of my note 4, I would like the new UI on it.

Ashatar said:
Well maybe it has something because you have Exynos.Still, although I am satisfied with the performance of my note 4, I would like the new UI on it.
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yes cuz it definetly fits better on big screen. ui looking is similar but animations abit different. it will come eventualy but they should make note 4 lolipop perfect 1st.

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yes cuz it definetly fits better on big screen. ui looking is similar but animations abit different. it will come eventualy but they should make note 4 lolipop perfect 1st.
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It's not the fact that I don't like lollipop on the Note 4, clearly we have to wait for the final release of 5.0.1 or even 5.0.2. The current versions are test versions and are not final. When the full roll out comes for the Note 4, we'll get a better comparison. Also the two phones use different chips so if you've got an exynos Note 4 then you have a better comparison to the s6 in terms of being in a level playing field. The hope is that the release of 5.1 on the Note 4 in Q2/Q3 will fix or reduce the stutter when opening apps.
One particular one I find takes a while is YouTube. On the s6, it opens up a lot faster.
Watch this YouTube video. Granted it's comparison of s5 vs s6 but the Note 4 lollipop vs s6 lollipop will be up soon over the next few months once the s6 is released and the Note 4 has its lollipop release. The video shows the lag on the s5, which is almost certainly a snapdragon version, against the exynos s6.
https://youtu.be/K4__rbWOGB4
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I also noticed that the S^ has a nice lock animation...I am really hopping that those unofficial rumors are true.

leedsnyc said:
It's not the fact that I don't like lollipop on the Note 4, clearly we have to wait for the final release of 5.0.1 or even 5.0.2. The current versions are test versions and are not final. When the full roll out comes for the Note 4, we'll get a better comparison. Also the two phones use different chips so if you've got an exynos Note 4 then you have a better comparison to the s6 in terms of being in a level playing field. The hope is that the release of 5.1 on the Note 4 in Q2/Q3 will fix or reduce the stutter when opening apps.
One particular one I find takes a while is YouTube. On the s6, it opens up a lot faster.
Watch this YouTube video. Granted it's comparison of s5 vs s6 but the Note 4 lollipop vs s6 lollipop will be up soon over the next few months once the s6 is released and the Note 4 has its lollipop release. The video shows the lag on the s5, which is almost certainly a snapdragon version, against the exynos s6.
https://youtu.be/K4__rbWOGB4
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youtube is broken by itself dont really say alot. but no doubt its faster than s5 there is a huge cpu difference. yes exynos note 4 is better rival for it. my note edge didnt get lollipop yet so i cant do a fair comparison but note 4 exynos on lollipop is very smooth no stutter etc.. and i think rollout for 910c started too its almost done.
snapdragon versions could need 5.1 update which fixed alot of performance problems for nexus 6 too. but we will see.

All I want is the 5x5 for stock ...

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Is the Note 4 really this laggy?

I just picked up a flawless T-Mobile Note 4 to test out (can't live without root/twrp). I had a Note 3 and used the multi window and pen quite a bit so missed it somewhat. Since last November I have been using a Nexus 6 exclusively. Considering that both phones had the same hardware, I expected similar performance. I know TouchWiz is heavy but I figured with a rom and a kernel it would be at least acceptable. This is not the case.
Unless I am doing something wrong, this phone is unbearably laggy. The first thing I noticed was that scrolling through google maps has stutter no matter what settings I use or what ROM I flash. It's not so choppy that I can't use it, but enough to bug me. This phone is supposed to have the best hardware out there and that's how I expect it to perform. The nexus 6 does not do this. Also I read on another forum that when you flash an aosp rom to the note that specific maps stutter is gone. I don't want to run an aosp rom on my note because it eliminates the features I am looking for in the first place.
Other things such as titanium backup taking almost an hour to restore my apps, whats that all about? I then tried to run a nandroid backup with encryption enabled and that was a huge mistake. The phone almost locked up and took like 2 hours to make a backup. General moving through the UI and multi tasking back and forth is just generally laggy an unnacceptable. It's BAD. It's as if the phone is stuck in power saver mode or something. I tried two roms (pop rocks and tekxodus) and got the same results between both and stock. Also tried emotion kernel and bioshock and flashed them to both roms seperately. All with the same results.
I went into the store to check out a floor model to confirm I don't have a bad unit and they performed the same. While I was there I looked at the s6 and it seemed noticeably better. Maybe this version of TouchWiz really is that heavy and I just don't remember what it was like using the note 3 now that I've had a nexus for so long.
My question is, is this happening to everyone else? Please only respond if you have used a nexus or another phone to compare it to. I'm sure 10 people will be lining up to tell me how fast and smooth their note 4 is and that I'm crazy... but unless you compare it to something else you don't know any different. To me it's a lag fest.
This is NOT a nexus vs note debate. I genuinely would like to solve this issue and keep the Note 4 in anticipation for the Note 5. However I can't live with the way the phone sits right now.

My fiance has a nexus 6, and i find this phone laggy as hell. Flashing any custom rom made it worse. I've done everything i could think of..

Are you saying you find the Nexus or the Note laggy?

HearMeWhisper said:
My fiance has a nexus 6, and i find this phone laggy as hell. Flashing any custom rom made it worse. I've done everything i could think of..
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Are you saying you find the Nexus or the Note laggy?

The phone is much snappier on aosp ROMs.

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The phone is much snappier on aosp ROMs.
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I know but then I lose what makes a note a note. Its a shame. Hopefully they can get it ironed out with the Note 5. Maybe I should go poking around in the S6 forums to get some info.

Well its definitely TW, I've tried just about every ROM in the forums for Note 4 and all the TW ROMs have significant lag in scrolling, recents, etc. The aosp ROMs are significantly faster but like you mentioned you lose some of the functionality that makes the Note the Note. There are 3rd party add-ons that can substitute TW stuff pretty well though.

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Well its definitely TW, I've tried just about every ROM in the forums for Note 4 and all the TW ROMs have significant lag in scrolling, recents, etc. The aosp ROMs are significantly faster but like you mentioned you lose some of the functionality that makes the Note the Note. There are 3rd party add-ons that can substitute TW stuff pretty well though.
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So sad. I will give it a few days and if I can't get past it, this thing will be on swappa. If I wanted aosp I would use my nexus 6 with dual forward facing speakers.

Can't compare it to aosp / nexus lol don't get me.wrong love my note but next to aosp /nexus 6 it crawls...if you flash aosp on this thing you realize the potential of the specs. On another note, welcome to the note 4...lol its not snappier than the note 3 can tell you that lol. As for titanium that's titanium issue nothing to do with note 4

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Can't compare it to aosp / nexus lol don't get me.wrong love my note but next to aosp /nexus 6 it crawls...if you flash aosp on this thing you realize the potential of the specs. On another note, welcome to the note 4...lol its not snappier than the note 3 can tell you that lol
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So I was right then! I didn't remember my note 3 being this bad. I don't get it lol What happened.... Maybe they didn't get the drivers right for the GPU and all those pixels are crushing it. Or maybe they just added too much crap to TouchWiz.

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So I was right then! I didn't remember my note 3 being this bad. I don't get it lol What happened.... Maybe they didn't get the drivers right for the GPU and all those pixels are crushing it. Or maybe they just added too much crap to TouchWiz.
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It's touch wiz lol...but there are few batches of note 4 with pure on lag issue...should make sure yours isn't one of those. We had a lot of complaints initially here but they have all been exchange. So look into

seh6183 said:
So I was right then! I didn't remember my note 3 being this bad. I don't get it lol What happened.... Maybe they didn't get the drivers right for the GPU and all those pixels are crushing it. Or maybe they just added too much crap to TouchWiz.
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TW had form worse not better. However there is still quite a but of functionality with the spen on CM 12.1 now. The TW lollipop update was a disaster in my opinion. The phone was barely noticeably faster and it crushed the once great battery life.
I finally gave up on it this week. The AOSP ROMs are just so much faster and I get better battery life to.
However if you compare the Note 4 running CM 12 to the nexus 6 I think you will be pleasantly surprised. The note 4 has a few great things going for it comparatively. Better screen, better camera, etc.
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I've never had a better phone and I have a nexus 6.

I've had the note 3 for a year before upgrading to a note 4. When I tested out the 4 at a store, I immediately noticed laggy performance. Because I wanted a newer phone, I went with the 4 anyway. Once I rooted and flashed a rom, it feels like my old note 3, flawless and smooth. I wouldn't recommend The 4 to anyone if they're not going to root and flash a rom. There's no way this phone should be this laggy with its givens pecs. You DEFINITELY notice performance improvements if set the CPU speed to even 1750. If you root and check CPU speeds on a stock TW rom, you'll notice that it lags because it runs at a very low CPU speed. That is exactly what's causing lags and sluggish perormance. I am running Dynamic pop lollipop TW rom and it is amazingly smooth with great mods.

I think maybe you need a factory exchange.

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It's touch wiz lol...but there are few batches of note 4 with pure on lag issue...should make sure yours isn't one of those. We had a lot of complaints initially here but they have all been exchange. So look into
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Seems to be the same as the floor model in the stores. It's not so laggy that the phone is unusable, it just isn't smooth and instantaneous like it should be. The Nexus does it, the S6 seems to do it. The hardware is there, the software is just ruining it.

https://m.reddit.com/r/nexus6/comments/2mlr7d/lag_everywhere_anyone_else_experiencing_this/
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We're computer geeks and testing 4 the big companies
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There's always gonna be something wrong. I still gave my nexus 6 to my mom

mariojp said:
I've had the note 3 for a year before upgrading to a note 4. When I tested out the 4 at a store, I immediately noticed laggy performance. Because I wanted a newer phone, I went with the 4 anyway. Once I rooted and flashed a rom, it feels like my old note 3, flawless and smooth. I wouldn't recommend The 4 to anyone if they're not going to root and flash a rom. There's no way this phone should be this laggy with its givens pecs. You DEFINITELY notice performance improvements if set the CPU speed to even 1750. If you root and check CPU speeds on a stock TW rom, you'll notice that it lags because it runs at a very low CPU speed. That is exactly what's causing lags and sluggish perormance. I am running Dynamic pop lollipop TW rom and it is amazingly smooth with great mods.
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You mean the minimum at?

Karakoram2 said:
https://m.reddit.com/r/nexus6/comments/2mlr7d/lag_everywhere_anyone_else_experiencing_this/
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We're computer geeks and testing 4 the big companies
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There's always gonna be something wrong. I still gave my nexus 6 to my mom
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I can assure you that my phone does not behave like that. It flies. The only time it was semi laggy was when I first got it with 5.0 installed. I quickly unlocked the bootloader and disabled forced encryption because it wasn't implemented right on 5.0. Now I'm on 5.1 encrypted and its just as fast; except boot up is a long time.
I have not given up on the Note 4 just yet. I will be doing some side by side comparisons of the camera and other software functions. The Note still has a chance.

ShrekOpher said:
TW had form worse not better. However there is still quite a but of functionality with the spen on CM 12.1 now. The TW lollipop update was a disaster in my opinion. The phone was barely noticeably faster and it crushed the once great battery life.
I finally gave up on it this week. The AOSP ROMs are just so much faster and I get better battery life to.
However if you compare the Note 4 running CM 12 to the nexus 6 I think you will be pleasantly surprised. The note 4 has a few great things going for it comparatively. Better screen, better camera, etc.
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The whole reason I got the Note is for the spen features and the multi window though.