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Since more people already have the Moto X , Im wondering have anyone played with the LG G2.. Im contemplating between the two on which one I should get...
Tough choice. I am going to compare them together on Friday. The moto x is really sweet though.
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LG G2. Everybody here on the Moto X forums will tell you that. We all hate our phones.
I will be there Friday to play also, if not just to get an idea of the next Nexus hardware. I have to say though, the X is the best out of the box experience I have ever had.
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I will be there Friday to play also, if not just to get an idea of the next Nexus hardware. I have to say though, the X is the best out of the box experience I have ever had.
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Im def going to play with the LG G2 as well, and see... I figured I would ask since a lot of people have already got their hands on the Moto X for more than a week...
Don't sweat it. Some people around here are stressing over root, kind of has the whole Moto X board being mean . Either way, I have a really hard time believing that the LG g2 will be able to outpace this phone. It really sounds crazy but in telling you this phone is something else.
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Easy choice for me. I'm done with shiny plastic and really ugly ui
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Don't sweat it. Some people around here are stressing over root, kind of has the whole Moto X board being mean . Either way, I have a really hard time believing that the LG g2 will be able to outpace this phone. It really sounds crazy but in telling you this phone is something else.
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Do you or anyone have an opinion regarding the Moto X as a device to get over the HTC One or Note 2?
Depends what you want. Basically stock Android, great speed, good form factor = Moto X. You want higher specs for some reason, you enjoy the G2's design with buttons on the back, and the size of the device, get the G2.
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Do you or anyone have an opinion regarding the Moto X as a device to get over the HTC One or Note 2?
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The note, in my opinion is just too big, and I hate touchwiz. The one is a nice phone, the Google Edition is way better in my opinion. I like AOSP, not a fan of skinning, at all. The MOTOROLA X is really a great phone straight out of the box.
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Depends what you want. Basically stock Android, great speed, good form factor = Moto X. You want higher specs for some reason, you enjoy the G2's design with buttons on the back, and the size of the device, get the G2.
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I would like to give the Moto X a try because of the stock look and that the size is not too big or small. The specs do open up my eyes on the G2 and if I decide on that I could always switch to a different launcher. This is a tough decision.
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The note, in my opinion is just too big, and I hate touchwiz. The one is a nice phone, the Google Edition is way better in my opinion. I like AOSP, not a fan of skinning, at all. The MOTOROLA X is really a great phone straight out of the box.
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I utilize the Note for business because, the S-Pen allows me to do some things when I'm out recruiting. But, I've used the iPhone 5 at times as my daily driver and want to switch totally to android.
I'd check out more reviews of the G2 then. Personally, I'm not sure what higher specs bring, which is the point of the Moto X. Other high spec phones provide nothing substantially better. Some lag even right out of the box, sacrifice battery life, or provide no real higher terms of performance in terms of gaming.
These aren't actual computers, despite what they do. People aren't running AutoCAD and need an i7 processor. Why these high specs other than ego boosts, I don't know. I'd maybe assess WHY you want the G2's specs. What purpose are they actually serving you? The Moto X and its "inferior" specs runs 100% smooth out of the box, has high gaming performance, and great battery life.
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I'd check out more reviews of the G2 then. Personally, I'm not sure what higher specs bring, which is the point of the Moto X. Other high spec phones provide nothing substantially better. Some lag even right out of the box, sacrifice battery life, or provide no real higher terms of performance in terms of gaming.
These aren't actual computers, despite what they do. People aren't running AutoCAD and need an i7 processor. Why these high specs other than ego boosts, I don't know. I'd maybe assess WHY you want the G2's specs. What purpose are they actually serving you? The Moto X and its "inferior" specs runs 100% smooth out of the box, has high gaming performance, and great battery life.
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I'm just thinking it will allow me to run my apps more efficiently and quicker. I've been using iOS (iPhone 5) as my daily driver and the Note 2 for business because I'm a coach. I want to move to android totally and from what your saying the Moto X will be the way to go.
I've had it for 1 week today, and it's been faster than I expected. I'm coming from a Verizon Samsung Galaxy S3 and this is light years better. Stock S3, Touchwiz was too annoying for me. Pulling down the notification bar and having the quick toggles scroll each time (thanks!), to just the useless features, it was annoying. I installed different ROMs, which I guess is fine, but eventually they'd need to be updated. That's more time I have to take to back things up, wipe everything, flash, and restore. I might be nitpicking, but it's still an annoyance. Not to mention that many of these ROMs have glitches, no matter how popular they are: AOSP camera problems, GPS locking issues, etc.
I've had 0 problems with the Moto X after 1 week. The screen PPI is the same as the S3, but looks way better since it's not pentile. To me, it seems not only brighter and more vivid, but just less "blah." I much prefer Android's customization over iOS, but that's a personal preference. Maybe check out a local store to play with the Moto X. Doesn't have to be your carrier, since I'm not sure if VZW stores have it in yet, but AT&T sure does.
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I'd check out more reviews of the G2 then. Personally, I'm not sure what higher specs bring, which is the point of the Moto X. Other high spec phones provide nothing substantially better. Some lag even right out of the box, sacrifice battery life, or provide no real higher terms of performance in terms of gaming.
These aren't actual computers, despite what they do. People aren't running AutoCAD and need an i7 processor. Why these high specs other than ego boosts, I don't know. I'd maybe assess WHY you want the G2's specs. What purpose are they actually serving you? The Moto X and its "inferior" specs runs 100% smooth out of the box, has high gaming performance, and great battery life.
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Android phones have "better" specs than any other OS because it lacks optimization. I'm not saying Android is bad but the more platforms you run a OS on the more raw power you need to push it. With all these different resolutions, cpu, gpu, ram ect it makes it impossible to optimize beyond a certain point. That's why iPhone, blackberry, and Windows phone all run so smooth.... All the phones that run their OSs have almost identical specs. Now the Moto X is more optimized so can run amazing with lower specs which is awesome, but the downside is you could possibly wait a lot longer for any updates because of all the special things going on behind the scenes that they need to tweak from the AOSP.
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I'm definitely going to check it out because I think it's time to step away from iOS. It may take getting use to, but I'm sure I'll managing. Your info has been very helpful. I do a lot of group texting to my players. Is that available in the stock app?
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I'm learning some new things here, but as I stated before I will definitely go into Verizon today and check out the Moto X.
It is, just used it last night
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I'm just thinking it will allow me to run my apps more efficiently and quicker. I've been using iOS (iPhone 5) as my daily driver and the Note 2 for business because I'm a coach. I want to move to android totally and from what your saying the Moto X will be the way to go.
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if you look at reviews of the X vs htc one gs4 or other phones the x runs apps often faster. As many have said previously, specs aren't the big deciding faster on whether a phone runs faster with apps or many things.
here is a short youtube video showing benchmark of HTC one and then running apps comparison. Both phones are bery similar even though HTC one has far superior specs and benchmarks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmU7YKoC5Is
Why on earth would you want the buttons on the back of your phone (G2)? I don't understand how that idea even left the boardroom.
Well, I finally went and played with the LG G2 and I think I will go with the Moto X if and when verizon comes out with the 32gb...
My reasons:
1. Its way to much to change on the LG G2 once you root it
a.bloatware, notification menu,buttons that does the same thing that comes stock with the phone,the buttons are def awkward on the back
a.Moto X comes pretty much perfect.
2. Verizon murdered this device with bloat over 10
3. Camera on the Moto X is inferrior but geez over 85% of cell phone users arent professional photographers
4. Every LG G2 is different as well, especially the verizon version which tells me the updates will not come in a timely manner(opinion not fact)
So, a little bit of background... I'm on AT&T with a Galaxy S4. AT&T has the bootloader locked up tight so I can't get rid of any of the bloat, or try other ROMs. I was thinking about selling it and going for a Moto X or a N5 but I shied away from the N5 due to camera, battery, and speaker issues. I like the idea that the X is assembled in the US and stuff but mainly I want a phone I can tinker with.
I understand by leaving the S4 I'd be downgrading in screen quality, processing power, IR blaster and camera. I'm not really a phone gamer so I don't know that I'd need all that power. I've heard the X can hold its own in the realm of processing speed and screen but the camera is probably the biggest drawback.
Is it worth it? Convince me. I'm thinking hard about Monday's sale. I want the unlocked DEV ED version but I'd rather be able to motomaker it. If I were to get the AT&T one off contract, would it come branded and locked? Can I load a custom recovery, etc? Thanks for your help.
You want a phone to tinker with? This phone isn't for you.
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You want a phone to tinker with? This phone isn't for you.
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Why not? I should explain my definition of "tinker". I am not a programmer and I don't build my own roms. I just like using others and more customization.
This phone barely has ROMs. It doesn't really need any because it is a stock android experience. If you do want to tinker, the N5 would be a better option. However I prefer the Moto X (had both.)
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Why not? I should explain my definition of "tinker". I am not a programmer and I don't build my own roms. I just like using others and more customization.
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It isn't needed on this phone. The S4 needed it because it was so laggy and touchwiz ruined pretty much everything.
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This phone barely has ROMs. It doesn't really need any because it is a stock android experience. If you do want to tinker, the N5 would be a better option. However I prefer the Moto X (had both.)
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Why do you prefer the Moto X? Will I miss not having CM support or many other roms?
In my old android age(started with cupcake) I am looking for a flawless experience, I have been through the crack flashing and modding stages and I can tell you the Moto X is the phone I will be keeping for a long time. The reason people are not building custom roms is that they are not needed. The android experience is amazing. I have had no lagging what so ever and believe me I have tried to cause lag. Yes on paper it is slower than a S4 but in real world performance it is what I think android users have been looking for. The Battery is amazing. My wife who uses her phone almost all day for work commented that she did not have to charge her phone at all during the day and still had about 35% when she got home. The camera on this phone is great. Again if you get down to the paper specs the S4 is probably better but in real world performance the camera is great. Make the jump my friend, you will not regret it.
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In my old android age(started with cupcake) I am looking for a flawless experience, I have been through the crack flashing and modding stages and I can tell you the Moto X is the phone I will be keeping for a long time. The reason people are not building custom roms is that they are not needed. The android experience is amazing. I have had no lagging what so ever and believe me I have tried to cause lag. Yes on paper it is slower than a S4 but in real world performance it is what I think android users have been looking for. The Battery is amazing. My wife who uses her phone almost all day for work commented that she did not have to charge her phone at all during the day and still had about 35% when she got home. The camera on this phone is great. Again if you get down to the paper specs the S4 is probably better but in real world performance the camera is great. Make the jump my friend, you will not regret it.
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WAIT DID YOU JUST SAY THE CAMERA ON THIS PHONE IS GREAT?? Your joking right?
Andrew149 said:
WAIT DID YOU JUST SAY THE CAMERA ON THIS PHONE IS GREAT?? Your joking right?
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I said it was great not awesome or the best out there.
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Why do you prefer the Moto X? Will I miss not having CM support or many other roms?
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Personally all I like from CM are battery percentages & customizable tiles. Very minor things compared to the features of the moto x: active notifications, touchless controls, camera gesture. Also I like AMOLED screen, size, speaker & design better than N5.
I came from a S2 that I ROM'ed the crap out of. As stated the Moto x doesn't need ROM"s but if, like me, you want a different battery, percentage, and a few other tweaks like center clock and different quick tile settings, then all that is needed is root, exposed framework, and gravity box.
Love this phone.
I'll be honest and say I've never believed in any of Samsung's Android products. I tell myself every single time Samsung releases a handset - the hardware's one of the best, but I wouldn't be caught dead being seen using that hardware and software. (I only got the Galaxy Nexus because, well, Nexus.) There. I openly declare my love for the stock Android experience, and even looking at the S4s my friends use there will be weeping and wailing and gnashing of teeth coming from me whenever I have to use one.
But I digress. This phone is one of the purchases I have not regretted. Never mind the fact that I had snafus with payment from eBay that resulted in some US$100 taken from me for no reason, never mind the delay in shipping that was caused by a friend of mine, never mind the emotional trauma that I had to go through for a whole month before I got this phone. This is a phone where I can tell people it offers one of the best user experience, everything ranging from the software and its functions, down to the hardware and its design. (Hell, I'd go out on a limb and say this trumps the iPhone.)
In defense of my Moto X, the camera has substantially improved since the first version of software. I'm currently on a KitKat ROM of the Verizon variant, and I wouldn't shy away from using it anymore (though, yes, improvements surely can be made). If you're coming from an S4 (and I pray and assume that you've changed your ROM to something non-TouchWiz) you'll have to get used to the lower quality of photos, as well as the speeds granted by the phone.
Until now, I've never had the need to install anything to augment my experience. I haven't installed any of the Xposed mods yet, but I'm planning to soon as I'm missing some of the features granted by custom ROMs (slide down right for shortcuts, vibrate on call connect, etc). But beyond the addition of the features that Motorola actively promotes, such as its Active Notifications, Touchless Controls and Assist, this is going to be the most stock you'll ever get from a well-known phone company. This is how customization is done.
Well, now that I've expressed my love for the phone, I hope to see you joining the Moto X family soon. Now excuse me while I stop sounding like a complete Motorola fanboy. (But seriously, though. The way Motorola has leaped back into the game is nothing short of impressive.)
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Personally all I like from CM are battery percentages & customizable tiles. Very minor things compared to the features of the moto x: active notifications, touchless controls, camera gesture. Also I like AMOLED screen, size, speaker & design better than N5.
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Not to mention you can get all those features with xposed and gravitybox without even changing the very stable stock rom.
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If you're coming from an S4 (and I pray and assume that you've changed your ROM to something non-TouchWiz) you'll have to get used to the lower quality of photos, as well as the speeds granted by the phone.
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That's the whole problem. I can't go to a different rom because the bootloader is locked up tight. Noone has been able to crack it.
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That's the whole problem. I can't go to a different rom because the bootloader is locked up tight. Noone has been able to crack it.
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Then whatcha waiting for? Run baby run. Lol
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So if I were to pull the trigger on this, I don't want to trade one locked bootloader for another. The AT&T version is unlockable right?
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So if I were to pull the trigger on this, I don't want to trade one locked bootloader for another. The AT&T version is unlockable right?
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On the contrary. The AT&T version has a permanently locked bootloader (at least, until someone finds something to attack it). You'll need to look at other versions. I'm not sure about which spectrum the carriers in the US use, but your best bet would be the Developers' Edition. Or, if you can lay your hands on one (which is going at a pretty high price nowadays), Latin American versions will work too.
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On the contrary. The AT&T version has a permanently locked bootloader (at least, until someone finds something to attack it). You'll need to look at other versions. I'm not sure about which spectrum the carriers in the US use, but your best bet would be the Developers' Edition. Or, if you can lay your hands on one (which is going at a pretty high price nowadays), Latin American versions will work too.
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Thanks Ragna. Sounds like the TMO version is the right one for me. It sounds like others are able to use it no problem on AT&T and install a custom recovery.
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Thanks Ragna. Sounds like the TMO version is the right one for me. It sounds like others are able to use it no problem on AT&T and install a custom recovery.
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Heh. Enjoy! I love this phone. This is after paying almost 700-800 bucks on this phone, and being deprived of LTE usage. (The frequency band Singapore and Malaysia uses for LTE is not supported by the X.) Even then, the tradeoff is still worth it for me. Heh
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go on my friend you will not regret it, I love this phone and just the stock android experience is awesome!
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go on my friend you will not regret it, I love this phone and just the stock android experience is awesome!
hey everybody, i wasnt sure where i should ask this question but here we go.
My dad is looking for a new phone, looking at the moto x or nexus 4 because theyre pretty much the same price and ive always wanted the moto x. I have a nexus 4 now and hes thinking on buying the moto x and swapping it for my nexus 4. would you guys recomend me doing it? im having some doubts and i will list them now
doubts about swapping:
i love the nexus 4 design
i love how the nexus 4 has a android L preview and will get updates quick
i love the choice of roms, kernels and all sorts.
when i had a moto g (as a temp phone) to be able to use hangouts you had to have the text messaging app on as well, which i didnt like in the slightest. also the phone app didnt have the search feature like the nexus does.
Reasons to swap:
i like the smaller bezzles of the moto x
i like the features
i like how its faster
i like how the battery is better
i like how the speaker doesnt flicker like the nexus 4
better camera
better front camera
no snapchat reboots
(smoother?)
how it doesnt heat up and throttle like the nexus
I've searched and searched but nothing really answers my question, they just compare price and stuff but price isnt a problem. What do you guys recommend? Thanks.
If you want to flash lots of things, nexus. If not....moto x.
Easy decision when you decide that.
But N4? Why not N5? Price is comparable to the X.
The Moto X is probably in reality better than the N4 in every way. But a flashing enthusiast will get bored with the X....like I did. Now my wife has it. Also, some X's don't have unlockable bootloader.
My advice is always....want roms and mods...like to tinker...then N5....if not, moto X. Its a great phone!
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If you want to flash lots of things, nexus. If not....moto x.
Easy decision when you decide that.
But N4? Why not N5? Price is comparable to the X.
The Moto X is probably in reality better than the N4 in every way. But a flashing enthusiast will get bored with the X....like I did. Now my wife has it. Also, some X's don't have unlockable bootloader.
My advice is always....want roms and mods...like to tinker...then N5....if not, moto X. Its a great phone!
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no i dont like flashing stuff really, i just like something that works. and nexus 5 is about £100 more- but yeah, should i get the moto then??
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no i dont like flashing stuff really, i just like something that works. and nexus 5 is about £100 more- but yeah, should i get the moto then??
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The devices I own are in my signature. And the Moto X, I'm my opinion, is the most polished device I've used. And best radio signal strength as you expect from Motorola. I'd still have mine....but I like to tinker to much. Lol
My wife had an iPhone 4s. Then an S2. Went back to her 4s. And said she wanted an iPhone 5s. Then she played with my moto x and loved it. I gave it to her and got an N5...to play with. I asked her a month later if she still wanted a 5s.....she said nope. She never wants another iPhone.
She may want the next X tho.
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Your Dad may take issue with the trade tho. Lol
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The devices I own are in my signature. And the Moto X, I'm my opinion, is the most polished device I've used. And best radio signal strength as you expect from Motorola. I'd still have mine....but I like to tinker to much. Lol
My wife had an iPhone 4s. Then an S2. Went back to her 4s. And said she wanted an iPhone 5s. Then she played with my moto x and loved it. I gave it to her and got an N5...to play with. I asked her a month later if she still wanted a 5s.....she said nope. She never wants another iPhone.
She may want the next X tho.
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Your Dad may take issue with the trade tho. Lol
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hahaha yeah i think i'd swap then! and nooo hes not really bothered which he has, he likes the nexus- if anything he thinks the nexus is better//the same.. not gonna decline the offer though am i "1 2 3 no swap back" hahaha
A vote for the Moto X. I've bought a handful of phones of the years (HTC, Samsung, LG, Nokia, Moto), a few for myself and more for my family members. The Moto X stands ahead of the others for quality, ruggedness and design.
In fact, just for fun I did T-Mobile's 7-day iPhone 5s test drive last week, and I returned it a day early. I wanted to get back to my Moto X. (And I'm a Mac fanboy, by the way.)
That said, I do miss flashing ROMs the way I did on my HTC Sensation. But I probably get more actual use out of my phone now.
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hey everybody, i wasnt sure where i should ask this question but here we go.
My dad is looking for a new phone, looking at the moto x or nexus 4 because theyre pretty much the same price and ive always wanted the moto x. I have a nexus 4 now and hes thinking on buying the moto x and swapping it for my nexus 4. would you guys recomend me doing it? im having some doubts and i will list them now
doubts about swapping:
i love the nexus 4 design
i love how the nexus 4 has a android L preview and will get updates quick
i love the choice of roms, kernels and all sorts.
when i had a moto g (as a temp phone) to be able to use hangouts you had to have the text messaging app on as well, which i didnt like in the slightest. also the phone app didnt have the search feature like the nexus does.
Reasons to swap:
i like the smaller bezzles of the moto x
i like the features
i like how its faster
i like how the battery is better
i like how the speaker doesnt flicker like the nexus 4
better camera
better front camera
no snapchat reboots
(smoother?)
how it doesnt heat up and throttle like the nexus
I've searched and searched but nothing really answers my question, they just compare price and stuff but price isnt a problem. What do you guys recommend? Thanks.
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You've asked in the moto x forum. Are you asking for biased views? Because your gonna get them.
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You've asked in the moto x forum. Are you asking for biased views? Because your gonna get them.
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You are obviously right.
I did throw the N5 name in there tho. ?
Why Nexus 4? Why you picked that? Where I live Nexus 5 and X are of almost same price (N5 being slightly higher), and in UK the price is almost same if I am not wrong, unless you are in a contract. N4 is quite outdated, old.
Moto X definitely. Chose it over Nexus 5. The reasons have been said already, a lot of times, still repeating, Active display, AMOLED, Ergonomics and Size, Call quality, Speaker phone quality, and of course the performance. While with Nexus you will get the fastest Android out there at the moment because of better hardware, and a bigger display with more resolution, but it's IPS, so it's dull, call quality can never match X's, everyone knows how the speaker is on the N5, no active display, if that matters to you, and last but not the least an extremely fragile device.
If there were a phone at X's size, with S5's display, Z2/1020's camera and G3's hardware then I would probably let myself switch off from browsing mobile related websites for six months.
So I have a moto x right now and just loved the active display function. Very good battery life and smoother. Just my opinion.
I've had a N4 before and there's no comparison when pitted against the Moto X. Almost everything about the X is better than the N4 and N5.
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A vote for the Moto X. I've bought a handful of phones of the years (HTC, Samsung, LG, Nokia, Moto), a few for myself and more for my family members. The Moto X stands ahead of the others for quality, ruggedness and design.
In fact, just for fun I did T-Mobile's 7-day iPhone 5s test drive last week, and I returned it a day early. I wanted to get back to my Moto X. (And I'm a Mac fanboy, by the way.)
That said, I do miss flashing ROMs the way I did on my HTC Sensation. But I probably get more actual use out of my phone now.
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okay, sounds good!! thanks
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I've had a N4 before and there's no comparison when pitted against the Moto X. Almost everything about the X is better than the N4 and N5.
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thank you! im about to go to the shop now
I wouldn't say the X is better than the N5, just bought a N5 after having my moto x for almost a year, the major difference is development for N5 kicks azz while the moto x development just sucks. Both phones have there advantages and disadvantages, yes moto did a good job on the firmware side but for those who run custom Roms and the such the N5 rocks. Sorry moto ,nexus devices are always going to be in my pocket from this day forward
Moto X to a Nexus 5
I like this phone, but I can't root it properly and that's a problem. I think I'd rather return it and get a new one.
Is there a phone similar to the Moto X? By that I mean, at least as performant, at least hte battery life, and with a similar screen size/ resolution, but that *can* be rooted?
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I like this phone, but I can't root it properly and that's a problem. I think I'd rather return it and get a new one.
Is there a phone similar to the Moto X? By that I mean, at least as performant, at least hte battery life, and with a similar screen size/ resolution, but that *can* be rooted?
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Maybe try a different carrier? I've been using my MotoX on Verizon rooted for around 2 months now and love it. The MotoX is such a great phone and I don't think you'll find anything like it.
Most phones on Verizon are in the same boat though, either requiring lots of work for root, and no way to unlock the bootloader.
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Yeah, maybe I'll just leave Verizon. I've just realized that I'd have to pay the 30 dollar restocking fee *anyways*, so I may as well spend 15 dollars more and buy a key to unlock the bootloader...
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Yeah, maybe I'll just leave Verizon. I've just realized that I'd have to pay the 30 dollar restocking fee *anyways*, so I may as well spend 15 dollars more and buy a key to unlock the bootloader...
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Bootloader unlock isn't 100%. I know for newer devices it might be, but I think you should just get off VZN if you want to do anything with your X.
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The Developer Edition is still on sale. Can't beat that for easy to root.
The Maxx is locked up the same for Verizon users but screen is much better! I have no root & all is fine.
I'd say N5 if you weren't on Verizon. But that won't work.
Pay the 45 if you can get unlocked that way.... Or get a dev edition.
Or a totally different phone. This time do some homework first tho.
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Also... A Lot of phones are starting to get locked down... Meaning no root, or half baked root. Don't get anything without looking into it first. That should be done by anyone really.
It still baffles me how many times the I can't root my phone issue arises on a phone where the manufacturer spoon feeds developer editions even on Verizon.
Sell your phone or return it and get a developer edition. Problem solved
Dev Edition XT1060 not that hard to find. When you're on vzw your options are limited. If I left I'd get an N5.
If you want a VZW alternative to the Moto X, consider the HTC One (M7). They're very hackable, not much larger, a little faster, excellent display about the same size as the X. And they have the same Dove bar feel in your grip when you're single-handing it. Only downside is they only have two-color LEDs, afaik.
Also, they're pretty cheap and readily available on swappa.
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If you want a VZW alternative to the Moto X, consider the HTC One (M7). They're very hackable, not much larger, a little faster, excellent display about the same size as the X. And they have the same Dove bar feel in your grip when you're single-handing it. Only downside is they only have two-color LEDs, afaik.
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M7? It is WAY bigger than the X. M7 was actually taller than the S4, and one of the worst phone I have ever controlled. That slippery bastard was like a newborn. And that LED can't be seen without the ambient being pitch black, meaningless.
The only real competitor of X is / was Z1 Compact by Sony. It has a 4.3" display, but if OP can take that then it's a great phone. Otherwise as others have said get the DE of X.
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It still baffles me how many times the I can't root my phone issue arises on a phone where the manufacturer spoon feeds developer editions even on Verizon.
Sell your phone or return it and get a developer edition. Problem solved
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I don't think developer edition phones are subsidized. Not everybody can pay up front for a smartphone.
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I don't think developer edition phones are subsidized. Not everybody can pay up front for a smartphone.
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@KidJoe was saying you can finance them from Moto. Problem solved. ?
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M7? It is WAY bigger than the X. M7 was actually taller than the S4, and one of the worst phone I have ever controlled. That slippery bastard was like a newborn. And that LED can't be seen without the ambient being pitch black, meaningless.
The only real competitor of X is / was Z1 Compact by Sony. It has a 4.3" display, but if OP can take that then it's a great phone. Otherwise as others have said get the DE of X.
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I've had an M7. Yes, it's about the same size as a G2. But the performance and experience are comparable to the X. It has a robust developer community too, esp since it can run M8 ROMs with minimal conversion.
But it's something to see what was widely acknowledged one of the best phones of its day described as one of the worst ones you've owned. Personally, I liked it a lot.
Z1 Compact is considerably more phone than the Moto X, even if the screen is about as big as an iPhone's. Aren't those GSM-only phones though? And what kind of dev support is there for such a niche device? Plus I'm skeptical about battery life. Hot chip like that won't find a lot of battery hiding behind a tiny 4.3" screen.
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I've had an M7. Yes, it's about the same size as a G2. But the performance and experience are comparable to the X. It has a robust developer community too, esp since it can run M8 ROMs with minimal conversion.
But it's something to see what was widely acknowledged one of the best phones of its day described as one of the worst ones you've owned. Personally, I liked it a lot.
Z1 Compact is considerably more phone than the Moto X, even if the screen is about as big as an iPhone's. Aren't those GSM-only phones though? And what kind of dev support is there for such a niche device? Plus I'm skeptical about battery life. Hot chip like that won't find a lot of battery hiding behind a tiny 4.3" screen.
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M7 was described worst by me because of it's handling, I could not control the device with one had, always had to support the backside by another hand, which was a PITA for me. But yes, it's a good phone, and of course it has great XDA support.
Z1C has very good battery life. And I think it has enough support to root it and all. I don't think one will wanna run stock Android on Z1C, I mean it's not really needed as Sony's UI / framework is already pretty flat.
I have 1 year left on my contract and on my S4, but I use none of the special S4 features and am tired of a locked down phone. I am thinking of moving over to a moto X, and was just hoping for any and all feedback.
X+1
I am waiting for the Sept 4th announcement to do anything, But I expect the X + 1 dev edition to cost too much (anything much over $500 and I will be seriously thinking, over $600 and I am out for sure.)
I am hoping to have the new phone I get cost roughly similar to a new phone on contract after I subtract the money made by selling my nearly mint S4 (hoping $250-$300?)
About me:
I don't play games, I just need web browsing, FB, music player, view the occasional document, ect..
I am not an obsessive flasher. I want root/custom recovery to give me the option of managing my own updates. Mostly having a recent OS and the option to flash minor modifications such as offered by xposed framework or stock based roms is my biggest concern.
I use none of my touchwiz fanciness, automated things that go off automatically tend to annoy me (not sure about that voice control in this regard though it sounds cool),
Why Moto x?
Active display, Moto's payment plan, unlocked BL, as well as the "grown up" focus on solid performance and ergonomics is what appeal to me. My S4's specs already seem to be more then I need, and if the Moto X can be as snappy or more then my S4 while giving me an up to date phone for the next year and a half I will be content. (Should be out of school and making decent money by then?)
Why not s4?
I feel like the S4 has more flash then I can appreciate, while being slightly uncomfortable, having annoyingly poor build quality and a fairly bleak future for the modding community... And that at least for now I could move to a moto X for the cost of a new contract phone, but with out contract and with an unlocked bootloader to boot.
Not sure on this one though, and a little worried about being happy still with a Moto X a year from now... So trying to get a wide variety of opinions on this.
What carrier? If Vzw go for a Maxx it is already a x + 1/2! Lol.
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What carrier? If Vzw go for a Maxx it is already a x + 1/2! Lol.
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It is VZ, but I thought the Maxx was no longer available as a dev edition?
If I didn't make it clear enough, the majority of the reason I am getting rid of the S4 is jumping through hoops with updates, and wanting a device that is guaranteed unlocked on Verizon.
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It is VZ, but I thought the Maxx was no longer available as a dev edition?
If I didn't make it clear enough, the majority of the reason I am getting rid of the S4 is jumping through hoops with updates, and wanting a device that is guaranteed unlocked on Verizon.
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Really. I did not know that.
I just got Dev edition, moto web sight $324. I also have S 4, I bought the x for better reception, so far been really good.
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I just got Dev edition, moto web sight $324. I also have S 4, I bought the x for better reception, so far been really good.
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yeah it looks like I just missed the $324 but I am going to call up and talk with customer service to see what they can do. Just waiting to hear back about the moto playment plan.
Can you talk more about the differences in your experience with each device? Just kind of general which one you like more and how the moto has been... I like what I hear about reception, seems like mine is never quite good enough.
I pretty much use the phone like you, I like my S 4 mdk for battery life and tweeks with custom kernel, but Samsung radio's have poor reception. I've owned Motorola phones in the past reception has always been good with moto. This is why I purchased.
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I feel the X screen is too dim/variable compared to the Maxx. Root is not necessary on the Maxx, to me, anyway.
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Signal is great on any Moto.
I love my VZW X DE. Had a non-DE maxx, sold it cause i lost root after taking 4.4
Performance and battery life are awesome. Im sure this device will please me for at least the next year, or until i have enough spare cash to justify an upgrade
One thing to note, is that if the O.P. browses through the development forums for the Moto X, there are not very many ROM's. If you love to flash something new every few days, then you might be disappointed.
However, the reason that there aren't very many ROM's is because the stock experience is so good - for the things you listed - active display, Moto Assist, etc. that don't work in AOSP based Rom's. A stock, debloated ROM with xposed is really all that is needed to have a fantastic device!
I wouldn't be surprised if the Moto X dev editions get cheap again after the Sept 4th press conference, or at the very least, I expect Swappa/Ebay to have several after that date Maybe even mine
I just switched from an S4 to a Moto X developer and I am very pleased. I took advantage of the $324 sale they had on the Moto X developer edition.
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