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great success! Supports Exchange!!! but no Push mail yet...
Well done, let me be the first to offer my condolences....
Ill just stick with my Athena thanks. Seriously though, is it actualy any good?
i want one!!
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great success! Supports Exchange!!! but no Push mail yet...
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two months from now, when the shinny'ness wares off, you'll miss your pocket pc/smartphone
to hiimclif:
My brother bought an iphone today and was previously using a cingular 8125 and the iphone is so far above the technology of anything i have ever used. Don't get me wrong im sure its not a good comparison of the two phones. But within just the 10 minutes i was able to play with it i truely found it to be far supperior to any current ppc/smartphone. The design and layout is so much more fluent then windows its rediculous. im sure your much more knowledgable about everything, but as a normal user and not a hardcore junkie about everything i would never see myself going back to my cingular 8125. And im not biased towards anything i havent owned an apple product in my life but i can truely say this is an amazing piece of technology that blows The HTCtouch and what i believe just about everything else out of the water
lol Thats cuz you had a 8125.. Get a Hermes and tell me how much you would never go back to PPC. .
I don't have any plans to drop my Athena.
Iphone is a smartphone and that's it.
It's finn, and very fast,
Now I need to unlock, anybody?
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lol Thats cuz you had a 8125.. Get a Hermes and tell me how much you would never go back to PPC. .
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Hey, can you tell me about the hermes. you are talking about the 8525 right?
Is the processor 400mhz a big difference to the 8125, 200mhz.
Is it also USB 2.0 transfer. I really hate the 8125's slow usb 1.0 transfer. Have to take my card out of the phone and use a seperate reader to transfer my moviez and songs.
btw, any sim unlocker avail for this iphone ?
iPhone doesn't have a SIM card.
daddy_yankee1980 said:
Hey, can you tell me about the hermes. you are talking about the 8525 right?
Is the processor 400mhz a big difference to the 8125, 200mhz.
Is it also USB 2.0 transfer. I really hate the 8125's slow usb 1.0 transfer. Have to take my card out of the phone and use a seperate reader to transfer my moviez and songs.
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try looking up wm5torage
yes it does...
http://www.nytimes.com/ref/business/20070627_POGUE_GRAPHIC.html#
last I checked all GSM phones did..
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Iphone is a smartphone and that's it.
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Where do you get an additional applications for it?
Where is the software development kits?
Without these things its not a smartphone.
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iPhone doesn't have a SIM card.
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Um.
I hear iPhone also eats babies, and is made with the skins of 3 day old sealpups, and supports $cientology.
Of course it has a bloody SIM card. Try looking something up before stating "facts" about it
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Where do you get an additional applications for it?
Where is the software development kits?
Without these things its not a smartphone.
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Does a hell of a lot more stuff than my old dialphone does. At what point does a phone become smart? Email? Contacts? Address book you can edit? Internet access? VPN and webapps? Desktop-derived operating system?
SDK doesn't make the device a smartphone. You couldn't run anything on the UK-Market Three A925, unless Three published it - sure, you could get a Symbian SDK from somewhere for UIQ, but Three didn't make it "legal" or "easy" to get UIQ apps onto the device.
I think most people will agree the existence of an SDK doesn't not define a define as a smartphone.
I read somewhere the lack of 3G is actually due to the Qualcomm chip injunction. Wonder if there's a grain of truth in that...
Phone becomes smart when you can develop & install native third-party applications for it, that blends unlimited functionality of personal computer into phone platform.
Otherwise its just an ordinary phone - every phone have an OS and set of default applications inside, some very rich, hovewer these are not smartphones.
Btw, there is no probs in getting devkits for UIQ. Currently the main hassle is mandatory signing, but its still not closed platform. IPhone is.
RichardKAthena said:
Um.
I hear iPhone also eats babies, and is made with the skins of 3 day old sealpups, and supports $cientology.
Of course it has a bloody SIM card. Try looking something up before stating "facts" about it
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I think what he meant was the iPhone doesn't have a REMOVABLE SIM card. There isn't a way to access it (although I'm sure you could if you pulled the phone apart) because the battery also ISN'T removeable along with there being no back cover. This phone is just one big 'thing'.
-Nstefanelli-
HERMES IS BETTER
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I think what he meant was the iPhone doesn't have a REMOVABLE SIM card. There isn't a way to access it (although I'm sure you could if you pulled the phone apart) because the battery also ISN'T removeable along with there being no back cover. This phone is just one big 'thing'.
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Umm, if its a CDMA phone, its no wonder it have no SIM card.
SIM card is GSM thing, CDMA phones do not use "cards".
Some real Facts
Ok Guys, some real facts regarding my Iphone:
-of course there is a SIM Card. (cames with a blank sim card to activate via Itunes)
-Yes it's a smartphone, Why? Because you can install and unistall widgets applications (just like Mac OS widgets)
-Do not record VIDEOS (So youtube it's only to vivew some videos) maybe next firmware update will enable the camera to record
At this moment I'm trying to hack the device and Itunes to unlock my device, Do you guy know any other forum ? maybe like iphone-developers... I will post my review at
http://www.techguru.com.br
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-Yes it's a smartphone, Why? Because you can install and unistall widgets applications (just like Mac OS widgets)
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A lot of ordinary phones allow to install java applets, hovewer it does not make them smartphones.
As with iPhone widgets these are not true native applications, as they run in "sandboxed" environment and do not have the full access to phone hardware and OS features.
Apple declared already that they *maybe* will consider "opening" the iPhone and making it a true smartphone, but they said that "we will need to sort out security issues first".
I'm very much interested in buying this device, but after reading all the threads here and Petition...I'm totally confused.
Can anyone please sum it up ? whats going on? Should i buy it or not? Video playback issue is been solved or not?
I don't have any other device in my mind with the same specifications..
Please help me out.
Yeah im debating whether i should keep mine or not.. Seems like this video driver thing wont ever get resolved by HTC, who knows? .. Maybe when another phone that has the same chipsets releases, a developer from XDA can extract some stuff from there.. but it looks like its not going to be any time soon. Sorry for being pessimistic but I feel like i am being realistic here. HTC has no desire to fix a phone thats been out for some time now when by next year there will be an upgraded version of the phone.
Only question is... What phone should i swap it for? the Iphone? blahhhh....
Definately get it, although there are a few small nags with it, such as the video problem its still a fantastic device and just so much better than anything else out there IMO.
The GPS is fantastic, its very fast and very stable with the Cooked ROM such as Schaps or duttys. I have never had it crash on me yet and ive owned it over 2 months now. Ive only ever had to reset for planned things such as program installs etc.
Overall its a really superb device and i cant recommend it enough!
+1. Best phone I've ever used.
I love my TyTN II/Tilt.
I like my Kaiser but if you dont need GPS then you why not think about a Hermes? i personally like it a whole load better because there is a lot bigger mod scene with the Hermes. Also a slight drawback at the min is lack of sim unlock for the Kaiser so am using it as my second back up phone. My oppinions may change mind once i get it unlocked and use it more. will keep you posted
sean pint- just goto ebay and search for kaiser/tilt unlock. Once you find a seller make sure he has good feedback and buy it. I got mine for 15 dollars. Ive heard of people paying 10. It took about 6 hours for the seller to email me the unlock code. Simple as that. Good luck!!
I searched and researched for 6 months before buying my TyTN II. I love it. Sure the video driver issue is frustrating but you know what? Even with that issue its the best PDA/Phone available.
I have had mine for almost 2 months and have never had a lockup or any other problem that made me reset it.
I love mine and wouldn't trade it for anything.
If you do decide not to get it, I will echo the suggestion made earlier to get a Hermes. There is A LOT available for that device too.... but for me the Kaiser is the kit to get.
PS: The phone in my experience is OUTSTANDING.
Thanks for the Feedback guys....
Can anyone elaborate more? like what kind of issue one can face with video playback? Like does it really lag bad ? or it just bearable? Or video is just lagging in one specific format?
Does this video issue get solved if i change to third party firmware?
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Thanks for the Feedback guys....
Can anyone elaborate more? like what kind of issue one can face with video playback? Like does it really lag bad ? or it just bearable? Or video is just lagging in one specific format?
Does this video issue get solved if i change to third party firmware?
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I am a proud kaiser owner for a few months now and I do not know what this video issue is!
zaki67 said:
I am a proud kaiser owner for a few months now and I do not know what this video issue is!
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Don't you play videos on ur device?
Don't, just don't...
wahur1 said:
I'm very much interested in buying this device, but after reading all the threads here and Petition...I'm totally confused.
Can anyone please sum it up ? whats going on? Should i buy it or not? Video playback issue is been solved or not?
I don't have any other device in my mind with the same specifications..
Please help me out.
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I would not buy this device again. It might look cool but it can give you too many frustrations. My TyTN I is infinitely more reliable.
If you are a very easy-going rich individual or a gadget freak that just has to buy this cool looking device, you should get it. It looks good, the GPS works well, wireless, etc, all good.
Here's what NOT to expect though:
1. Good camera/video recording quality
2. Anything close to acceptable video playback quality
3. 3d acceleration if you play games
4.Smooth browsing with Pocket Internet Explorer
5. Anything close to an acceptable customer service
You might also get other problems. My Kaiser for instance doesn't register fast consecutive keystrokes of the same letter. So I open PIE, I type www.google.com and it comes out as ww.gogle.com (Before anyone tells me to change the Up/Down key delay in the settings, I've already done that and the problem is always there). It's sooo much fun getting the cursor back there to correct it!!!
Browse the forums, you'll get an idea of how many bad surprises the Kaiser might hold for you, thanks to the lack of quality control by HTC. Sorry to disappoint you but if stability is your concern, don't listen to the voices luring you to buy this thing.
dsyro said:
I would not buy this device again. It might look cool but it can give you too many frustrations. My TyTN I is infinitely more reliable.
If you are a very easy-going rich individual or a gadget freak that just has to buy this cool looking device, you should get it. It looks good, the GPS works well, wireless, etc, all good.
Here's what NOT to expect though:
1. Good camera/video recording quality
2. Anything close to acceptable video playback quality
3. 3d acceleration if you play games
4.Smooth browsing with Pocket Internet Explorer
5. Anything close to an acceptable customer service
You might also get other problems. My Kaiser for instance doesn't register fast consecutive keystrokes of the same letter. So I open PIE, I type www.google.com and it comes out as ww.gogle.com (Before anyone tells me to change the Up/Down key delay in the settings, I've already done that and the problem is always there). It's sooo much fun getting the cursor back there to correct it!!!
Browse the forums, you'll get an idea of how many bad surprises the Kaiser might hold for you, thanks to the lack of quality control by HTC. Sorry to disappoint you but if stabilityis your concern, don't listen to the voices luring you to buy this thing.
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I have entered in bold my views on the above posters comments.
Here's what NOT to expect though:
1. Good camera/video recording quality
There is an art to getting very acceptable quality with the camera. So good quality is possible and takes better semi-light pictures than TyTn I - see here: http://www.pocketables.net/2007/12/california-thro.html
2. Anything close to acceptable video playback quality
My problems were solved via the latest Core Player. You just need to get the settings right and most videos are fine.
3. 3d acceleration if you play games
Don't use that much though my Duke Nukem is working just fine!!
4.Smooth browsing with Pocket Internet Explorer
There is a very easy fix in CAB form available for the PIE problem that takes less than 10 minutes to solve.
5. Anything close to an acceptable customer service
Never had any need for it so I cannot comment on this.
Back to me again!!
I use both TyTn I and TyTn II. My TyTn II a non branded vHTC device was smooth, fast and usable straight from the box. Video has been sorted by Core Player (latest). Yes the camera takes practice and you need to understand the auto focus (or else you'll get fuzzy pics - but once you get the hang of it it's better than TyTn I)
I was re-setting my TyTn I every two weeks. I have yet to crash my Kaiser and only soft reset after application installation if necessary. I have NEVER had to hard reset the device in several months of ownership.
I would advise against branded devices with loads of bloatware that can cause all sorts of slow downs on any device.
This is the first device I have been able to accept without endless mods and tweaks just to get in semi acceptable. Of course I have done several tweaks, but that's 'cos I enjoy doing it!!
To be honest, my general view is that folk have fewer issues with the Kaiser than the TyTn I and certainly fewer alignment and screen problems. Hanging and freezing were common on TyTn I, I hardly see that on the Kaiser and when it does it seems that if you leave it for a couple of minutes it sorts itself ou rather than needing a soft reset.
YES, if you read here or any of the Fora, you will see folk talking about nothing but problems. This is a FALSE picture - of course folk post their problems, that's what the forum is for!!
I have been around here since before the TyTn I and on balance I would not hesitate in opting for the Kaiser, though I still like the TyTn I Hermes as a very capable device - but it needs love and a lot of tweaks!!
Mike
Thanks for the input guys.
But seriously if you are buying a device by keeping in mind that it will run each and everything which you throw on it, than i think no one will buy this device...Its not about rich and all...I'll be getting this device as my primary fone and it will be performing everywork, from excel to presentation...Emails/browsing.
But after reading all the reviews and all its totally holding me back to get this device. I was more inclined to "HTC Advantage" but due to its size its holding me back..i just can't carry that brick everywhere with me..where as TytnII was the perfect for me...but its drivers are making major issue here.
I don't want to go with TytnI....i want to stick to the latest phone because in few months or so new WM 7 will be launching soon ..and when WM 7 going to Launch than no one will give a flying**** to tytnI ....
What i'm looking in device is:
Sliding QWERTY keyboard
GPS
Fast Processor above 500Mhz
I never thought to look on ebay actually. Is it the same system to unlock a tilt aswell as a vario III. just thinking because the tilt is american and the Vario III is on T-Mobile in the uk. Anyone recomend a good seller on ebay?
al just thought i would try a virgin sim and that works but when i put my 3 sim in it says its locked. rather strange
Hi All,
I currently own an HTC magician. I want a new phone with everything the magician has plus GPS, WIFI, more RAM, and a keyboard. The only phone I found that comes close is the Kaiser, but I've heard such bad things about the video driver problem.
Video is not the biggest issue for me, but should I not buy the phone and support HTC who refuses to cooperate?
Do I have any other options with those specs?
Thanks,
Daniel
I have a Kaiser and I am very happy with it, because I can do so much with it. However if a bit of lag annoys you greatly it may not be for you.
Surur
NO. Wait some time whether the issue get resolved. Its not only the video - the whole phone is slow. You can not browse, rotating you screen. If i make a call with skype, the phone is really very slow and if i slide the keyboard and the screen orientation switches it can take up to minute to be updated - with nothing in background and free mem - only skype running. And until it switches you cant hang up, change the volume...nothing.
To be honest, i regret buying the Kaiser. And if i see how fast a cheap HiPhone can be, omg!
I wonder how HTC can have this on their webpage: More powerful than anything you've seen before, the HTC TyTN II takes communications to the next level.
You have to be blind a live 5years back, for the slogan to be true...
I bought it mainly because of the 3g and wifi and wm6... but there are better solutions then this for 520 euro...
Beware!
wait for kaiser fix
If video is not heavily used, buy it now. I bought it recently and like it very mcuh. But higher performance is still demanded...
fredbred said:
I bought it mainly because of the 3g and wifi and wm6... but there are better solutions then this for 520 euro...
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better device with 3g, wifi, and wm6? like what?
get the kaiser...it's no slower then any other wm6 device out there and although yes it would be nice if we could play more games, normal res video runs perfectly fine.
fredbred said:
NO. Wait some time whether the issue get resolved. Its not only the video - the whole phone is slow. You can not browse, rotating you screen. If i make a call with skype, the phone is really very slow and if i slide the keyboard and the screen orientation switches it can take up to minute to be updated - with nothing in background and free mem - only skype running. And until it switches you cant hang up, change the volume...nothing.
To be honest, i regret buying the Kaiser. And if i see how fast a cheap HiPhone can be, omg!
I wonder how HTC can have this on their webpage: More powerful than anything you've seen before, the HTC TyTN II takes communications to the next level.
You have to be blind a live 5years back, for the slogan to be true...
I bought it mainly because of the 3g and wifi and wm6... but there are better solutions then this for 520 euro...
Beware!
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This may all be true if you're still using the stock ROM. There are some really smokin' cooked ROMs out there that really speed things up and make the Kaiser a truly enjoyable device.
One other thing, show me a PC that doesn't slow down once in awhile. That's what defrag is for.
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One other thing, show me a PC that doesn't slow down once in awhile. That's what defrag is for.
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So you equate flashing a cooked ROM with clicking the "Defrag" button? One is a feature built into the operating system, the other can void your warranty and potentially brick your device. They're nowhere near the same thing.
I'm telling everybody I know to avoid HTC like the plague. Not so much directly because of the video issues, but because of their lack of accountability. They deliberately released a crippled device in hopes that nobody would notice, and are now working on some half-assed "fix" only because of the publicity that was generated by the XDA community.
Get one. I was in the same boat hesitating about the drivers. I am glad i made my decision. I upgraded from a 8525. Glad i did i have everything i need in one device. GPS Wifi, processing power. Im not sure what the full potential of this chip is supposed to be but its fast. I actually got mine refurbished from att about a month ago. After using it i ended up buying another one today for my wife and paying full price. Im not disatisfied. Definatly waht i would expect out of a 400 dollar phone.
Like most answers, it lives in the question.
"Because of Video Problems". Do you need or want to view videos not converted to 320x240 resolution? If you do need or want that that from your new expensive mobile device, then pass. ---- NO KAISER FOR YOU!
If you want a snappy interface and quick file browsing experience, then wait for the HTC "fixes". But still forget lag-free video at source resolutions above 320x240. ---------- > Get a Kaiser, and hope you can fix it.
Do you want fancy graphical VGA games or anything 3D? Forget the Kaiser.
Do you want a Windows Mobile 6 device that has real GPS, WiFi, 3G, Edge, 2 cameras (one for video calls, one for decent pics), querty keyboard, and bluetooth? And are able to put up with the device doing NONE of those things particularly well, then ----> Get a Kaiser.
I have a Kaiser. I live through its quirks. Its a fun device depending on your definition of "fun".
Do I regret paying $850+ for my device even knowing I was an early adopter? Yes. The device advertised was not the device delivered.
Would I discourage others from buying it at a $200 USD price point? No.
But then again, its up to you and what you expect from your device.
With Schap's ROM (4.31) and Coreplayer 1.2 i needn't a fix for "video pb"
I don't play 3D game.
Do not listen to most of what the naysayers have to say here. I have an iMate K-Jam and now I have an HTC TyTN II. I have done many comparison tests between the two devices. The TyTN II wins HANDS DOWN!!!
Driver problems? What driver problems? I have yet to find any lag on any video except maybe a bit on the camcorder app, but that's not a big issue. I watch full feature movies on Coreplayer and I have used TCPMP and WM Player with wayyyyyyyy BETTER performance than on my K-Jam!!!
Don't even think about it, go right ahead and buy a TyTN II, you will not regret it. Problem is most people drag these devices through their backsides and then they complain about this and that. They replace roms, install and uninstall all sorts of crap and then they wonder why it's acting up!!!
I have had my TyTN II since the 15th January this year and I have not experienced any of the so-called problems mentioned by some in this forum. OK, the battery does get used up quicker, but then again it has so much packed in and you can get 3000 mAH batteries now!!!
This sub-forum (Kaiser) is more like the Cheese & Whine forum!!!
BUY IT!!!!
Hey is this a HTC deHey is this a HTC dealer Thread?
The TyTN isn’t a finished device. There are much more bugs and “features” which should be avoid.
1 Video – its really slow. I don’t mind games, I even don’t watch video , because I have other devices for this, but if I wan to scroll the internet page, that’s not the speed I have never seen before! Why takes it so long to switch between portrait and landscape?
And the video from the camera I also pretty slow.
2 Speed – I have used a Fujitsu siemens n560. It was MUCH faster even if it was older and has 64mb ram.
3 The keyboard – this was one of the features why I have chosen tytn. But why they do not think if the do anything. Omg where is the ctrl key? How can you copy and paste? I have always to use the pen for it. No they put rather a key for opening the explorer, which I have used twice so far. And why have I to use the fn key to write a comma? And do you like the style of the keys? Its not even possible to write comfortably the last row of keys if you bent the display? And why are the functions of the keys doubled? Its for disabled people or maybe if you bite off some finger bored from waiting? I would expect that I can configure every key not to have three key for OK two for enter…
And maybe try to write any non-English letter – no we are in the world where no others languages exist.
I tell you, they are not selling what they are telling – What you have been told is not what you get.
What is good – the speed of gps starting, If you use quick gps.
Have a look how fast a under $200 device can be! Put Hiphone in youtube and you will know how fast the screen should react and switch.
Its not only about the damn driver, the parts of the phone are not finished. Not if the producer tells you: It’s the best you can get...
fredbred said:
Hey is this a HTC deHey is this a HTC dealer Thread?
The TyTN isn’t a finished device. There are much more bugs and “features” which should be avoid.
1 Video – its really slow. I don’t mind games, I even don’t watch video , because I have other devices for this, but if I wan to scroll the internet page, that’s not the speed I have never seen before! Why takes it so long to switch between portrait and landscape?
And the video from the camera I also pretty slow.
2 Speed – I have used a Fujitsu siemens n560. It was MUCH faster even if it was older and has 64mb ram.
3 The keyboard – this was one of the features why I have chosen tytn. But why they do not think if the do anything. Omg where is the ctrl key? How can you copy and paste? I have always to use the pen for it. No they put rather a key for opening the explorer, which I have used twice so far. And why have I to use the fn key to write a comma? And do you like the style of the keys? Its not even possible to write comfortably the last row of keys if you bent the display? And why are the functions of the keys doubled? Its for disabled people or maybe if you bite off some finger bored from waiting? I would expect that I can configure every key not to have three key for OK two for enter…
And maybe try to write any non-English letter – no we are in the world where no others languages exist.
I tell you, they are not selling what they are telling – What you have been told is not what you get.
What is good – the speed of gps starting, If you use quick gps.
Have a look how fast a under $200 device can be! Put Hiphone in youtube and you will know how fast the screen should react and switch.
Its not only about the damn driver, the parts of the phone are not finished. Not if the producer tells you: It’s the best you can get...
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which is why you should try a cooked rom. the internet scrolling thing u mention? its a bug in pie, there;s a fix for that......if you decide to stick to pie, cause lets face it, pie is a pile of **** anyways. try opera mini or mobile. oh and btw......i did get my tilt for under $200
as for the OPs question, there are tons of posts here about the performance of these devices (you might also want to look in the upgrading section to see the performance of cooked roms) and I'm not gonna dd anymore to it. At the end of the day, you are the one who has to make the decision, and you are the one who will be using this device, my advice to you is just choose wisely......i took the jump and got it even after hearing about the video issues, and i never regretted it.
Just get a Kaiser and wait till end of March when the drivers will be released.
MACkjam said:
Do not listen to most of what the naysayers have to say here. I have an iMate K-Jam and now I have an HTC TyTN II. I have done many comparison tests between the two devices. The TyTN II wins HANDS DOWN!!!
Driver problems? What driver problems? I have yet to find any lag on any video except maybe a bit on the camcorder app, but that's not a big issue. I watch full feature movies on Coreplayer and I have used TCPMP and WM Player with wayyyyyyyy BETTER performance than on my K-Jam!!!
Don't even think about it, go right ahead and buy a TyTN II, you will not regret it. Problem is most people drag these devices through their backsides and then they complain about this and that. They replace roms, install and uninstall all sorts of crap and then they wonder why it's acting up!!!
I have had my TyTN II since the 15th January this year and I have not experienced any of the so-called problems mentioned by some in this forum. OK, the battery does get used up quicker, but then again it has so much packed in and you can get 3000 mAH batteries now!!!
This sub-forum (Kaiser) is more like the Cheese & Whine forum!!!
BUY IT!!!!
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If you buy this phone you'll be taking a risk. It may be a small risk depending on what you'll have to pay, but a risk nonetheless of not being satisfied. At least you will have made your choice in good conscience and aware of the situation. Truth is we shouldn't have to compare this device to much older ones and say it's better. It shouldn't warrant a comparison at all but since it does there is obviously a problem. There are those that will tell you their TyTN II is "SUPER ACCEPTABLE!" but that's hardly the point. I didn't buy this thing believing it would have acceptable performance. This device is supposed to kick ass and we believe it would if it used the complete architecture of the chip inside. I got mine for $700 and my plan here on out is to just grin and bear it. There isn't an alternative device available yet and HTC has us over the fence on this thing. The anticipated fix is not going to address our concern of enabling the second core of the chip we paid for. I can confirm for you my experiences with the TyTN II and keep in mind this is before I 'dragged it through my backside' by flashing the ROM. (By the way why in the world would it matter whether it's been flashed or how many times programs have been installed/uninstalled?)
- Video playback is fine if my source is 320 X 240. I have always re-encoded my video anyway in an effort to save space and optimize everything. For this reason I didn't know there was a video playback problem right away.
- The camera is almost unusable. I have turned on the on-screen fps display and in sunlight I get ~18fps, in ambient light make that ~4fps and if it's semi dark forget about it. This effects taking pictures and taking video. The video I shoot ends up looking like a blurry mess and any picture I take better be of a stationary subject or else I will usually miss the shot. Interestingly enough the device takes great photos though.
- Screen rotation is a sore subject. I want the thing to be fluid but instead I have to watch it redraw slowly and in seperate pieces.
- Scrolling - it isn't certain that scrolling problem is a result of the missing drivers. I have to say that scrolling isn't very good but there is a fix on this forum to make it more reasonable.
- GPS works great, I've never had an issue with it although it kills the battery fast. Especially fast when using Google maps or live search because then you have the active GPRS data session combined with the gps.
- Battery life - I have a 1600mAH bat and I have to charge it every day but then again I auto download podcasts and such so I am partially to blame. As I understand it the drivers would increase battery life.
That's about it from me. Sorry this post is so long, let me wrap it up. I don't think anyone can tell you to buy or not to buy. You'll just have to make a decision yourself. At least it will be an informed decision, unlike mine.
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"Video is not the biggest issue for me, but should I not buy the phone and support HTC who refuses to cooperate?"
With all due respect to all you guys complaining about video drivers.. STFU! already.
No one complained until one geeky ass dude bought it up. I have no problems playing my movies on my device or streaming it via orb.com. I get no lag and for god sakes it's a mobile phone not a computer. It surpasses most devices to date. I have no complaint about this phone. This is like my 40th something phone that I've had being that I work for AT&T and they provide me with devices. When the update comes people will still be *****ing about the video drivers. What exactly are you guys trying to watch? Live video feeds from Mars!?
Seriously get the phone you will not be disappointed. For the record my device does not lag when I slide the screen, etc. I've installed Schaps 4.31 best looking ROM to date. Haven't found another ROM that made me want to change.
even with no video drivers, it's still the best branded phone in the US. theres nothing better. (yet)
gqstatus0685 said:
"Video is not the biggest issue for me, but should I not buy the phone and support HTC who refuses to cooperate?"
With all due respect to all you guys complaining about video drivers.. STFU! already.
No one complained until one geeky ass dude bought it up. I have no problems playing my movies on my device or streaming it via orb.com. I get no lag and for god sakes it's a mobile phone not a computer. It surpasses most devices to date. I have no complaint about this phone. This is like my 40th something phone that I've had being that I work for AT&T and they provide me with devices. When the update comes people will still be *****ing about the video drivers. What exactly are you guys trying to watch? Live video feeds from Mars!?
Seriously get the phone you will not be disappointed. For the record my device does not lag when I slide the screen, etc. I've installed Schaps 4.31 best looking ROM to date. Haven't found another ROM that made me want to change.
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AMEN TO THAT BROTHER!!!!! I couldn't agree more with you!!!
I think that people expect to dial to Pluto with live feeds from the nethergalaxy and back!!!
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...I work for AT&T...
I've installed Schaps 4.31 best looking ROM to date. Haven't found another ROM that made me want to change.
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Awesome! So it is the official AT&T position that we should all install cooked ROMs on our Tilts? Is that what you tell your customers? And it won't void the warranty? That's fantastic news.
Can you please post your store number and employee ID number so your statement can be confirmed with AT&T corporate? Thanks!
Its just sinking in for me.. im kind of bummed about it.
The measly 4GB on the diamond with NO means of expansion is not enough.
The iphone offers 8 and 16.. even the freaking Samsung Tocco is being given away with 8GB card.
What were HTC thinking?!
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Its just sinking in for me.. im kind of bummed about it.
The measly 4GB on the diamond with NO means of expansion is not enough.
The iphone offers 8 and 16.. even the freaking Samsung Tocco is being given away with 8GB card.
What were HTC thinking?!
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Don't like it, don't buy it!!! You really like the iphone? Go with it and hold your complaints to yourself. There is a lot of this topic going around already, don't litter it with more of the same sh*t...
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Don't like it, don't buy it!!! You really like the iphone? Go with it and hold your complaints to yourself. There is a lot of this topic going around already, don't litter it with more of the same sh*t...
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No.. I absolutely detest the iPhone.
I already have my diamond, but tonight (as I put loads of music on my device) ive been thinking about it more and more... why didnt HTC put at least 8GB in it or add a Micro SD slot.
Other than that, I absolutely adore my diamond. Its a fantastic device and a great upgrade to my HTC Touch.
The whole 'mine is bigger than yours' thing doesn't bother me.
It's a phone, not an entertainment system for me.
I always carry a usb drive and am rarely far from a real pc.
When I ordered it I hadn't noticed the lack of card slot and I've only ever had a 2gig card in my previous smartphones. Maybe I just don't understand the concern to have so much on a media player but then again I did used to buy C120 tapes for my walkman
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No.. I absolutely detest the iPhone.
I already have my diamond, but tonight (as I put loads of music on my device) ive been thinking about it more and more... why didnt HTC put at least 8GB in it or add a Micro SD slot.
Other than that, I absolutely adore my diamond. Its a fantastic device and a great upgrade to my HTC Touch.
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I cant remember the exact figure but it would add several mm to the device to put in a MicroSD slot so that's the main reason they didnt. There may also be power savings and speed improvements but i beleive the size issue was the most important.
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I cant remember the exact figure but it would add several mm to the device to put in a MicroSD slot so that's the main reason they didnt. There may also be power savings and speed improvements but i beleive the size issue was the most important.
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Second the notion! One of the best things the Diamond has is its size!
Perfect size,you boys are forgetting the SIZE.
The fruityphone is huge looks like a brick.
cheers fellas.
Sergio PC said:
The fruityphone is huge looks like a brick.
cheers fellas.
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Turns into one too you try and do anything clever on it ;-)
I'm syncing my diamond to my iMac(itunes) using missing sync, so I'm not really sure whether this is possible using media player on windows, haven't been using windows for years so I have no idea as to it's playlist capabilities...
I've got two playlists that I'm syncing (everytime my diamond connects, basically every night) the first one I add music to as I please (songs I have to actually add to the playlist)... The second however consists of songs played less than three times... I have a pretty large library and my diamond pretty much always have music on it that I'm not tired of, hence I find the 4Gb quite sufficient. This is also available for videos, or video podcasts (if you use your diamond as a video player)
They'll comeout with one with more memory, until then, go to www.modmyifone.com:)
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Don't like it, don't buy it!!! You really like the iphone? Go with it and hold your complaints to yourself. There is a lot of this topic going around already, don't litter it with more of the same sh*t...
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I absolutely agree. Everyone knows that the Diamond has 4Gb and is not expandable. Pretty pathetic really if they buy it and then realise they want more space.
I have stored 100+ pics, 15 hours of music and installed all programs in the internal storage - and I still have 2,4 GB free.
darthbane2k said:
No.. I absolutely detest the iPhone.
I already have my diamond, but tonight (as I put loads of music on my device) ive been thinking about it more and more... why didnt HTC put at least 8GB in it or add a Micro SD slot.
Other than that, I absolutely adore my diamond. Its a fantastic device and a great upgrade to my HTC Touch.
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Hmmm.... ever heard of ORB?
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Its just sinking in for me.. im kind of bummed about it.
The measly 4GB on the diamond with NO means of expansion is not enough.
The iphone offers 8 and 16.. even the freaking Samsung Tocco is being given away with 8GB card.
What were HTC thinking?!
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all you seem to do is moan on this forum
get a grip.....
liamhere said:
all you seem to do is moan on this forum
get a grip.....
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And all you seem to do is stalk me in the forum..
I am perfectly within my rights to discuss the shortcomings of a product that I purchased within the arena of a forum dedicated to said product.
A forum exists for discussion, debate and problem solving. What do you expect, me to create countless thread of "how much I love my diamond". No.
You dont like it, stay out of the thread.
just look at your posts
moan...moan....ohh yes and moan again
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I absolutely agree. Everyone knows that the Diamond has 4Gb and is not expandable. Pretty pathetic really if they buy it and then realise they want more space.
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Not really. Its like anything else, you buy it thinking it'll be fine - its only when the space runs out that you realise you want more.
And no - dont go suggesting the iphone as an alternative, to me its a compromise. I want a kick ass Windows Mobile device. The diamond is damn near perfect apart from the storage issue. Curious HTC went this route as
1) Flash memory is very cheap. Hardly any cost difference between 4GB and 8GB
2)A Micro SD slot will not impact size that much
Do any of you think there will be any third party solutions (adaptors of some sort?)
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moan...moan....ohh yes and moan again
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Are you as much as an asshole in real life as you are in this forum?
Like I said - dont like the topic? Piss off.
Then again -do I expect any less from a fan of 'Absolutely Fabulous'
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Hmmm.... ever heard of ORB?
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Totally forgot about ORB! With my HSDPA connection, it should work like a dream
The forum is for trying to solve a problem and sharing information.
Moaning - perhaps understandable to a certain limit.
Now, you know there is nothing you (or anyone else can do) about the 4 GB internal sotrage that you got with your phone.
If there is a new version of the diamond, with more memory or an external card slot.. someone will definitely share that info.
Unless that's what you were doing, I don't think that moaning is going to get you anywhere or achieve anything.
An exercise in futility.
If you just want to share your opinion, there are plenty of places where you can do so.
Doing it on a forum where people are looking for solutions, not exactly the best approach.
Just my view
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The forum is for trying to solve a problem and sharing information.
Moaning - perhaps understandable to a certain limit.
Now, you know there is nothing you (or anyone else can do) about the 4 GB internal sotrage that you got with your phone.
If there is a new version of the diamond, with more memory or an external card slot.. someone will definitely share that info.
Unless that's what you were doing, I don't think that moaning is going to get you anywhere or achieve anything.
An exercise in futility.
If you just want to share your opinion, there are plenty of places where you can do so.
Doing it on a forum where people are looking for solutions, not exactly the best approach.
Just my view
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Not really - there are workable solutions, for example someone mentioned ORB.. plus I'd like to get into dialogue about the possibility of adaptors..
I wont be dictated to about what I can or cannot talk about.
I mean a thread dedicated to wallpaper on the diamond (Which is near 5 pages long) is more redundant than this one, yet I hear no complaints about that.
Hi!
I'm thinking about buying a Diamond, but I've got some wuestions about it.
1.) Is it possible to change the default TF3d to something more iPhone-like? Maybe with some SPB application?
(I like iPhone's simplicity, that control with short, little finger-moves, but at general iPhone is too dumb for me.)
2.) Is it possible to turn off threaded SMS-viewing?
Thanks for the replies.
1. yes, seen it on Youtube somewhere...if you search the forum you might find the link ~
2. yes possible and extremely easy -> via advanced config. tool
...now, head out and buy your Diamond jewel
TF3D is just another shell like any SPB-application or other cab.
After all, the Diamond is nothing more then a Windows Mobile fone...
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After all, the Diamond is nothing more then a Windows Mobile fone...
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I like that, better than iPhone. I have a HTC P3300, and wan tto upgrade to DImaond. My collegue got az iPhone, it's nice, it's comfortable, it has awesome browser, but it has strict rules, and a little dumb for me. I love when i can change almost everything, when something is real configurable.
Well, as for the browser, there's nothing better than Opera in the mobile world right now.
I'm gonna get flamed for this but you should SERIOUSLY consider your purchase mate. There are many hang-ups, battery life and screen issues being huge ones. I love my Diamond, but perhaps that's because it's just an interim phone until the Sony Xperia 1 comes out some time this month. The Omnia is a worthy alernative if you want to buy a phone now however as it's more of an all-rounder.
However, if battery life and the need to tweak lots doesn't bother you, you couldn't ask for a better phone right now.
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I'm gonna get flamed for this but you should SERIOUSLY consider your purchase mate. There are many hang-ups, battery life and screen issues being huge ones. I love my Diamond, but perhaps that's because it's just an interim phone until the Sony Xperia 1 comes out some time this month. The Omnia is a worthy alernative if you want to buy a phone now however as it's more of an all-rounder.
However, if battery life and the need to tweak lots doesn't bother you, you couldn't ask for a better phone right now.
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consider yourself flamed by a very satisfied diamond user.
hang-ups? BS!! never experienced one, not even when i had the original ROM.
screen issues? BS!!!! (best VGA screen).
battery life? BS!! my battery last 24 hours....more than i need. i do charge my diamond during the night...
tweaks a lot? BS!! used once Shaps Advanced Configuration, export the settings and that's all the tweaks i need. always using the same file.
i played with Omnia today. first i look around to be sure nobody sees me (from the distance looks sooooo much like an iPhone!) then i had to get used to the pixels on the screen (lots of them) and then i tried to put it in shirt pocket...and that was all i need...
I meant hang-ups as in disadvantages. The screen is great, but the build quality seems to be inconsistent. 24hrs battery may not be enough for some.
Just trying to give this guy all the info he needs.
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I meant hang-ups as in disadvantages. The screen is great, but the build quality seems to be inconsistent. 24hrs battery may not be enough for some.
Just trying to give this guy all the info he needs.
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i really want to understand. i am not joking, i am not trying to be sarcastic or a smart ass.
who needs more than 24 hours of battery??
who is far from an electrical socket or his car more than 24 hours??
Look at this
http://wmpoweruser.com/?p=849
Some want the iphon look's like a Diamond
As your questions have been answered already i won't answer them but i would suggest looking at the Sony Xperia (however it's spelt) depending on your preference but if you really want a Diamond then definately get one
True, 24hrs is sufficient.
But for some, they need/want more battery power to browse internet, watch films/listen to music and use gps. I don't think the Diamond would let you do all that in one day. I'd say it would give you 24hrs if you browsed on the internet moderately and used gps sparingly. Films and music really exhaust battery life...
Don't get me wrong, I love my Diamond. But it's not a multimedia/internet powerhouse in terms of battery. I think people will be dissappointed if they think it is, that's all.
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True, 24hrs is sufficient.
But for some, they need/want more battery power to browse internet, watch films/listen to music and use gps. I don't think the Diamond would let you do all that in one day. I'd say it would give you 24hrs if you browsed on the internet moderately and used gps sparingly. Films and music really exhaust battery life...
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Can you name any handheld device,let alone a mobile phone that will give you over 24 hours of use after watching movies,playing music/games or using gps,I cant think of one.
I usually get around 2-3 days out of my diamond,thats with some web browsing,youtube,calls and texts and maybe a short journey using gps.All i have done is updated to duttys 1.8 rom with the new radio and it made a world of difference.
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True, 24hrs is sufficient.
But for some, they need/want more battery power to browse internet, watch films/listen to music and use gps. I don't think the Diamond would let you do all that in one day. I'd say it would give you 24hrs if you browsed on the internet moderately and used gps sparingly. Films and music really exhaust battery life...
Don't get me wrong, I love my Diamond. But it's not a multimedia/internet powerhouse in terms of battery. I think people will be dissappointed if they think it is, that's all.
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you forgot boiling eggs and making coffee....
ppl, this is a phone with some extras!. this is not a digital camera, not a personal PC, not an MP3 and movies player, not a GPS dedicated device. it does a little of everything, and it does it well enough.
Ok you know what, read-read my posts - i'm not saying the Diamond is a bad phone. The omnia etc does what the diamond does but has more battery life. So all i'm saying is, if you intend to use the above named features a lot, the Diamond may not be for you. Of course, no phone will last you a long time when using such features.
Jeez, what is it with some of you people?
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Ok you know what, read-read my posts - i'm not saying the Diamond is a bad phone. The omnia etc does what the diamond does but has more battery life. So all i'm saying is, if you intend to use the above named features a lot, the Diamond may not be for you. Of course, no phone will last you a long time when using such features.
Jeez, what is it with some of you people?
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You forgot to say that Samsung omnia is far bulkier and looks rather ugly.
Right?
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You forgot to say that Samsung omnia is far bulkier and looks rather ugly.
Right?
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And reading around some forums, some peoples omnia's have a fast battery drainige issue.
I was actually considering an omnia,great specs,but after having a look at my mates,I think i made the right choice in the diamond.The omnia's screen is to pixelated for me after using the gorgeous vga screen on the diamond.
Most games can be played on it, but you can use the resize app, which comes with Panosha's Rom, but I havent used it really.
Go for the Diamond - 480 x 640 VGA - thats INSANE.
The pic quality is awesome.
Movie play back is great.
Only limitation is the unswappanle 4Gig internal drive.
But for some of us thats enough.
The iphone is just a ipod with phone function as a gimmic, like when phones came out with built in cams.
Whats the use of bluetooth if you cant transfer files over it??????
And for those are going to say how good the ipod sounds and blah blah blah - you shoud try the Cowon music players and others.
The Diamond is a pocket PC ! Enough said
Its a very impressive device , which is packed full of featues.
But be carfull when you buy , some unfortunate people have got a few bad eggs, where the screens have a yellow tint and the back heats up.
Mine however, knock on wood - is working perfectly.
Bought in Sinagapore.
Its such a sic little device.
I thought the back heating up was not a problem?
Some people report excessive heating. Though I think majority of them just overstates! (clearly)
Also I can't confirm whether the "minority" really suffers from that problem.
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