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We’re happy to announce that the MOTOROLA ATRIX™ HD will be available in a Developer Edition and also be a supported device in the Bootloader Unlock program. It has the same features and specs as the regular MOTOROLA ATRIX HD, but allows the infinite customization possibilities offered by an unlockable bootloader. Unlocking a bootloader isn’t for everyone, but for some, it’s a must-have.
http://www.motorola.com/blog/2012/11/06/announcing-the-motorola-atrix-hd-developer-edition/
Now that's some bull****.
I don't understand why they won't do it like HTC and let anyone opt in to unlocking their bootloader. I doubt there's any real changes. Just certain IMEIs or serial numbers are able to use the unlock.
When Moto shafted the Atrix users and reneged on updating the Atrix I should've stayed away. I don't understand how they sit down in a room and come up with these ideas and think the customer will not mind.
Moto makes good phones, but they are morons
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Based on this announcement, can we ever expect an unlocked bootloader for our already purchased atrixes?
If not I might have to ditch the phone, which is really a shame.
It's still there. I tried to comment similarly though and it wouldn't let me.
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This is the deciding factor that's pushing me to pick up a Nexus 4. :|
Are you effing kidding me???
SirHoover2010 said:
Moto makes good phones, but they are morons
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AT&T refuses to allow the AT&T branded ATRIX HD to be in the unlock program... Motorola is now releasing an unlockable version and going past AT&T. And somehow Motorola are the morons?
ripin150 said:
This is the deciding factor that's pushing me to pick up a Nexus 4. :|
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+100,000,000
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Yea but they could do a lot of things to help us out. Such as leak a jb that unlock bootloader, have "something go wrong" where the bootloader tool now works for us
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Yup, we've all been screwed, now we need to find a way to unlock the bootloader without moto's help. also, the only difference between that and the bell edition is that stupid at&t logo at the bottom of it... this is complete crap and such a waste for a phone with so much potential that is now just going to fade away to oblivion.
SirHoover2010 said:
Yea but they could do a lot of things to help us out. Such as leak a jb that unlock bootloader, have "something go wrong" where the bootloader tool now works for us
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They are respecting AT&T's wishes. They told everyone beforehand the ATRIX HD would not be unlockable.... expecting otherwise is lunacy.
mattlgroff said:
They are respecting AT&T's wishes. They told everyone beforehand the ATRIX HD would not be unlockable.... expecting otherwise is lunacy.
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I dont expect an unlocked bootloader. I just don't like having the option for an unlocked bootloader coming out a month and a half after I got the phone. Also I spoke with moto and asked about the retail version being unlocked and they said "I can not answer that question, as I do not have permission discussing that" so I have never heard motorola say that the Atrix hd will NEVER be unlocked. They may have but I have not heard it. Either way I like this phone, but they should have said MUCH earlier that they plan a dev edition so everyone that wanted the dev edition could wait. Not get stuck with the retail version.
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They are respecting AT&T's wishes. They told everyone beforehand the ATRIX HD would not be unlockable.... expecting otherwise is lunacy.
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That isn't what they said. They said it is locked, but "our goal is still to provide a way to unlock the bootloaders on our devices to those who wish to do so, more details to come."
mandrsn1 said:
That isn't what they said. They said it is locked, but "our goal is still to provide a way to unlock the bootloaders on our devices to those who wish to do so, more details to come."
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I remember reading that several places. It's a shame the Moto can't do right by their customers and support us, rather than bowing to ATT. I understand they need ATT to carry their phones, but there needs to be an option for us. That is what is suppose to be what is great about android, the unlimited possibilities. A dev edition phone is helpful to those that don't already have the phone. I for one will not sell this phone then spend 250-350 more for the dev edition, I'll buy a sammy phone. I believe that since we are the customers that spend OUR money on their product, we should get more support. I for one will not buy another moto device if I don't see a huge improvement in the way the support their customers.
They need to "leak" an update on one of those servers that unlocks the BL.
rquinn19 said:
They need to "leak" an update on one of those servers that unlocks the BL.
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My original idea...Easy to do and nothing ATT can do about it
SirHoover2010 said:
My original idea...Easy to do and nothing ATT can do about it
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Isn't that what happened with the OG atrix?
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Isn't that what happened with the OG atrix?
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Correct.
I'd really like to see the P880G get an unlocked bootloader like every other 4X variant in the world has. But since I don't have enough time and technical expertise, I'm going to try setting up a bounty for someone who may be able to do it instead. Although I expect I'll be the only one willing to contribute.
LG has pretty much admitted they'll never release another update for the P880G (anyone who's gotten a reply from them gets either "we have no plans to release an update" or "there is currently no info on future updates"). So it looks like a solution will have to be hacked. It's unfortunate that Kholk's unlocking efforts ended once V20a was released.
So if you would be willing to chip in, or have info on who might be willing to work on this or how to find someone, please post here.
I hate to be a negative nelly about this but there are a number of complicating factors.
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I'd really like to see the P880G get an unlocked bootloader like every other 4X variant in the world has.
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First off, there *are* no other 4X variants. The roms have been localized to carriers, for sure, but our P880g is the only 4X that's warranted a different model number. Is the hardware actually different? We don't know. It might be. This is the heart of a greater issue.
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It's unfortunate that Kholk's unlocking efforts ended once V20a was released.
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It's my understanding that Kholk did what he could and came to the conclusion that there were no exploitable flaws--before the release of LG's bootloader unlock. That ended up not being a huge deal because V20a was around the corner and so most users got the unlock they wanted anyways.
Given Kholk's experience with the P880 bootloader, I think trying to directly unlock the P880g bootloader is a fool's errand. That's not to say there isn't hope. What currently prevents us from installing V20a (or any other P880 rom) is a model check. If the model on the phone can be altered/spoofed, then it may be possible to install the unlockable bootloader/ROM. HOWEVER there is no guarantee that those ROMs would actually work on the P880g. So even if you get an unlocked bootloader, you may just end up with a phone that doesn't work.
Now, that's an empirical question. In a best case scenario, the hardware is actually identical and the radio/modems are interchangable and work just fine on 1700 without any manual tweaking. In a worst case scenario, you unlock your P880g and brick it with the first non-P880g rom you try to install.
I've resigned myself to the idea that my P880g will never receive an upgrade. I did the research on the 4X HD and didn't notice that our model had a different model number--else I wouldn't have bought it, because I saw how much of a difference flashing made in the lifecycle of my previous phones. That said I'm not too pissed, because I feel our stock ROM's pretty usable. In the long run, I may stick to Nexus devices in the future, despite their individual shortcomings.
Improbable as it is, I'd pitch in $30 for an upgrade path from stock P880g to a (working) cyanogenmod/custom ROM.
good luck. i think however p880g's bootloader with ICS is non-unlockable, unfortunately. good luck either way, hope something good comes from this for canadian users :good:
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First off, there *are* no other 4X variants. The roms have been localized to carriers, for sure, but our P880g is the only 4X that's warranted a different model number.
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You're right, bad wording on my point. There were a number of regions that received an update that didn't seem to comply with the unlocking, but the community came together to clear those up.
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Given Kholk's experience with the P880 bootloader, I think trying to directly unlock the P880g bootloader is a fool's errand. That's not to say there isn't hope. What currently prevents us from installing V20a (or any other P880 rom) is a model check. If the model on the phone can be altered/spoofed, then it may be possible to install the unlockable bootloader/ROM. HOWEVER there is no guarantee that those ROMs would actually work on the P880g. So even if you get an unlocked bootloader, you may just end up with a phone that doesn't work.
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Well, at this point I'm open to paying someone to try. Heck, I'll do it to my own 4X, if it bricks I'll be forced to get a more reliable phone anyway.
As for the bounty, I figured I'd start at $50 myself. I'm almost more interested in sticking it to LG Canada than getting Jellybean on my phone.
So in total, you guys are willing to pay 80$ for an unlock.
Camawn said:
So in total, you guys are willing to pay 80$ for an unlock.
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Hey, obviously this never took off. Ultimately I spent $200 on a used Nexus 4, and it was worth far more than an unlocked Optimus 4X. I'm done with that phone forever.
jphillip said:
Hey, obviously this never took off. Ultimately I spent $200 on a used Nexus 4, and it was worth far more than an unlocked Optimus 4X. I'm done with that phone forever.
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Damn man. This is pissing me off. I wish this would take off.
My dads leaving to lebanon and I told him to get me a phone and I've taken an interest in the G2. I've been constantly searching and Ive read that the lg g2 verizon is unlocked globally but I need confirmation before I end up getting a worthless phone. Thanks.
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My dads leaving to lebanon and I told him to get me a phone and I've taken an interest in the G2. I've been constantly searching and Ive read that the lg g2 verizon is unlocked globally but I need confirmation before I end up getting a worthless phone. Thanks.
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Yes the VS980 Verizon G2 is unlocked. al you do is setup an APN i believe but I know it is unlocked. :good:
I've read that apparently an unlocked boot loader doesn't void warranty for Nexus devices. Is this true?
It doesn't appear there is any flag that gets tripped when you unlock/Lock the bootloader.
jhk0215 said:
I've read that apparently an unlocked boot loader doesn't void warranty for Nexus devices. Is this true?
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it all depends where you bought it. through google it doesnt. through other places it very well might.
I've had 2 RMA's through Moto which is where I bought mine. Both were BL unlocked, rooted with TWRP. I just reflashed the stock image and locked it before sending it back. They never seemed to care or notice if there was indeed any flag.
I bought mine through Motorola and there's no voided warranties here! Not sure about VZW or At&t or even if the branded N6 bootloaders can even be unlocked on those carriers.
Should I relock or would they not care?
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Should I relock or would they not care?
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I would only relock it if you need to send it in.
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All N6's are the same model regardless of carrier. The only difference is the tramp stamp that Verizon puts on the back of the phone.
toknitup420 said:
All N6's are the same model regardless of carrier. The only difference is the tramp stamp that Verizon puts on the back of the phone.
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Same phone, different warranty terms sometimes.
toknitup420 said:
All N6's are the same model regardless of carrier. The only difference is the tramp stamp that Verizon puts on the back of the phone.
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People are complaining about the logos but its not a big deal they can be removed or even covered with a skin/case. If that is what you seriously more worried about its sad. Its a great phone
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People are complaining about the logos but its not a big deal they can be removed or even covered with a skin/case. If that is what you seriously more worried about its sad. Its a great phone
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I'm not worried about it, so no need for condescending remarks. I was merely stating that the logo is the only difference.
toknitup420 said:
I'm not worried about it, so no need for condescending remarks. I was merely stating that the logo is the only difference.
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the way u stated your comment u were worried about it also verizon is not the only carrier that did this. So did ATT, and ATT users also have sim lock and boot animation
the_rooter said:
the way u stated your comment u were worried about it also verizon is not the only carrier that did this. So did ATT, and ATT users also have sim lock and boot animation
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I only called it a tramp stamp cuz of its location. Lol. I've heard they can be taken off with rubbing alcohol. I'm not gunna try it but I'm sure someone will. Either way though let's get back on topic. [emoji16] [emoji16]
So some people are telling me that it voids the warranty and some are saying that it doesn't, so I'm not sure 100 percent
I bought it through Google Play
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So some people are telling me that it voids the warranty and some are saying that it doesn't, so I'm not sure 100 percent
I bought it through Google Play
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Play 100% warranty NOT voided.
rootSU said:
Play 100% warranty NOT voided.
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Thanks, I had some doubts because some asshole on reddit was lying to me. I ended up live chatting with Google Play and they said unlocked bootloader doesn't void warranty
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Thanks, I had some doubts because some asshole on reddit was lying to me. I ended up live chatting with Google Play and they said unlocked bootloader doesn't void warranty
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Try not too listen much to what anyone on Reddit says about anything.
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Thanks, I had some doubts because some asshole on reddit was lying to me. I ended up live chatting with Google Play and they said unlocked bootloader doesn't void warranty
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it wont void warrenty either way as long as u flash stock and lock back up. Its a nexus
After exhaustive searching, I've come to the conclusion that my brand spanking new G5 on the Rogers network cannot be rooted. Looks like I'll have to move south of the border to get a US model.
Does the EU model with the official bootloader unlock not work on Canadian networks? That would be preferable to a US model and a root that might not work after version updates.
@Kudalufi, that might work but it's too much of an unknown for me. I read somewhere along the way that the Canadian LTE frequency bands are unique to Canada. And although I can't see how that would affect a rooting attempt, I'm not going to risk it. A good thought though, thanks anyway.
I find that hard to believe... in 10 years I haven't had a phone that these dudes at XDA haven't figured out... the G4 was a pain but the root was still out there.
Fair enough. But - for me - the potential headaches of rooting this particular phone outweigh the benefits. If I can find a no muss no fuss solution, wonderful and I'll take it. And if I can't get it, that's cool too. In that case, I'll go hang out with my buddies or play with my kids instead
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I find that hard to believe... in 10 years I haven't had a phone that these dudes at XDA haven't figured out... the G4 was a pain but the root was still out there.
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Unfortunately only the handsets THAT LG.. in their wisdom.. deem "unlockable"(EU/European).. will ever have a fully unlockable bootloader.
Unless anyone finds a way.. that so far through all research.. has been for the most part.. A dead end, there will be no rooting ?
The G5 is long past it's new and exciting phase. The root experts have moved on to better pickings. Platforms where rooting will get them attention, money, fame, and wimmin.
I'm relatively certain there will be no general root for the G5. Which is a shame, because this lost LG my business.
Anarchist77 said:
Unfortunately only the handsets THAT LG.. in their wisdom.. deem "unlockable"(EU/European).. will ever have a fully unlockable bootloader.
Unless anyone finds a way.. that so far through all research.. has been for the most part.. A dead end, there will be no rooting
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i can guarantee you that the big companies like rogers, at&t, etc. offered LG money to have the bootloader locked. and LG, like the idiotic company that it is, accepted.
what is the real difference between the european G5s and the north american G5s? the t-mobile and the factory unlocked US versions(just recently released) can have their bootloaders unlocked. why can't the rest?
my first LG phone and my last. i'm actually thinking of selling this great phone.
By definition carrier never liked root-able phone as they are bearing the risk whatever are the terms, if your phone brick you may ultimately move somewhere else and cost them money in the process.
Whatever we agree on this is or not is not the point, they do prefer locked phone, a lot of the hardware manufacturer also prefer to see their hardware installed inside locked handset this is why some camera are not as good on the rooted version than the locked version (they protect the firmware that work only fully on locked handset)
As far as I know LG never sold the G5 claiming they would support unlocking boot loader on all the SKU... I will always prefer an unlocked device over a locked one. I bought mine used and it was a good deal, but I would not purchase a new phone at full price if it is locked. Some company are better in this regard. Unlocking should be a matter of choice for any non-subsidized model.
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i can guarantee you that the big companies like rogers, at&t, etc. offered LG money to have the bootloader locked. and LG, like the idiotic company that it is, accepted.
what is the real difference between the european G5s and the north american G5s? the t-mobile and the factory unlocked US versions(just recently released) can have their bootloaders unlocked. why can't the rest?
my first LG phone and my last. i'm actually thinking of selling this great phone.
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I had an H840 that cannot be unlocked, I spent countless hours searching online and following spam tutorials to get it unlocked but no luck. In the end I sold it on eBay hoping to get about £200 for it but to my surprise I sold it for £264 and I bought a used H850 for £240. Now I have a rooted device.
Has anyone tried Magisk?
Try this for bootloader unlock, can't hurt..
https://www.change.org/p/lg-electronics-unlock-lg-g5-bootloader-for-all-varients?
God67 said:
I find that hard to believe... in 10 years I haven't had a phone that these dudes at XDA haven't figured out... the G4 was a pain but the root was still out there.
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The reason Canadian G4 has root, is because there was a loophole in the Android 5.0 software that allowed you to do some code injection and root it without unlocking the bootloader. But that was patched in Canadian G4 6.0. And the G5 came even later, so for sure the loophole has been patched. Now, bootloader is everything, and if it is not unlocked, you're out of luck when it comes to gaining root access.
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I find that hard to believe... in 10 years I haven't had a phone that these dudes at XDA haven't figured out... the G4 was a pain but the root was still out there.
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Hope and pray that petition works...
Can I use a LG G5 RS988 anywhere in the world? It says north american varient but its specs would work anywhere where the carrierd use them no?
Storkish said:
Can I use a LG G5 RS988 anywhere in the world? It says north american varient but its specs would work anywhere where the carrierd use them no?
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As far as I've read it should work almost everywhere as I've saw the frequencies on first eye.
http://www.lg.com/us/cell-phones/lg-RS988-Silver-g5-unlocked
Scroll down to the specs and compare it to the frequency the country you are living in/want to visit has.