Nexus 6 outgoing sms problem on regional cdma carrier - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I have a problem using the Nexus 6 on my carrier, "Bluegrass Cellular" which is a regional cdma/lte carrier partnered with Verizon Wireless under their "LRA" (LTE in rural America) program. This issue happens with other carriers under the same agreement, and a few other carriers per Google search but I couldn't find any solutions. Issue doesn't seem to be ROM dependant either. If more carrier specific info is needed I can provide it.
Before a wonky work around mentioned next, this is the issue. Problem is if connected to LTE, everything works, calls in and out, mms in and out, and receiving sms. But you cannot send sms. If you are connected to LTE, when you send a sms it will fail with the message message, "cant send message (insert carrier name) error -1. But you could downgrade network to 3g and you can send fine. But back to LTE no sms.
Only fix/work around my friend found is to flash the android m preview radio. With that, sms sends, but it takes 30-45 seconds to send per text.
Does anyone have any ideas? Android m radio with delay is better than nothing, but it's still rather frustrating. Thanks in advance for any inputs.
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I'm in the same boat here, tried multiple different things and no luck. Only fix is m radio that's takes up to 40 seconds to send which I feel is wasting precious battery life. Anybody have any idea?

fantasy2c said:
I'm in the same boat here, tried multiple different things and no luck. Only fix is m radio that's takes up to 40 seconds to send which I feel is wasting precious battery life. Anybody have any idea?
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Yeah it is. Hopefully someone has suggestions on how to fix it or have any info on what's making it hold up when it sends. No idea why it sends instantly on 3g, 40 seconds on LTE on m radio, but no sending at all on lte any lp radio. Would it be a radio problem maybe I'm not sure... With all the proper apns set (not that it should matter for sms) I don't know what else it could be.
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Anyone got any ideas?
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Bump. Still looking for advice regarding this issue. Any insight is appreciated.
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Go to the info dialer menu (*#*#INFO#*#*). Go to the phone info. Scroll to the bottom and turn off SMS over IMS.

Done already doesn't change anything. Same delay on LTE
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MMS Issues

So this has been on going for about a month now for me, my phone will eventually stop receiving picture MMS only. The way to resolve is to factory reset but after a few days it will go back to not receiving or being able to send. I have tried third party apps but get the same results. I ensure ever time that my phone is not on WiFi when this occurs but that shouldn't matter since it is suppose to default to the cell net for that stuff. I have tried setting up a new APN for verizon, still no go. It seems to be an on going issue from googling a little bit. Just didn't know if anyone here could shed some light on my situation. Thanks for the help and info.
I also can't send picture messages ever since KitKat update, but I'm using vs980 on T-Mobile
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Cannot receive calls on z3c

I cannot receive calls on my z3 compact. I can make calls, I have lte, my sms works but when people call me it rings twice and goes straight to voicemail.
Please help, it's really inconvenient.
I put my iPhone 5s SIM card in it...is that the issue?
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I suggest you check call forwarding status
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neofral said:
I suggest you check call forwarding status
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But sometimes it does work...usually right after I made a call
Also right after I reset the phone
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Anything?
Phone receives calls while im on it.
Once I leave it idle for a couple minutes, texts will come in but if someone calls it goes straight to voicemail
I have S5 imei on it
Is that the issue, I put the Sony IMEI but I was not getting lte speeds.
Dont know what to do
barcagp said:
Anything?
Phone receives calls while im on it.
Once I leave it idle for a couple minutes, texts will come in but if someone calls it goes straight to voicemail
I have S5 imei on it
Is that the issue, I put the Sony IMEI but I was not getting lte speeds.
Dont know what to do
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I don't have any advice except that I'm pretty sure it's NOT the IMEI that's the issue.
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got the exact same problem
Phone seems fine for a few hours after a reset so have resorted to resetting it a few times a day now. The only other commonality was that this number was used in an iphone 4s previously and i am wondering if there are any iphone specific carrier settings which could be causing this.
Will try buying another carrier's prepaid sim to see if that would solve the problem.
Meanwhile if any of you gentlemen find a solution I'm all ears.
same issue here. check this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z3-...t-messages-t2912242/post56313668#post56313668

sorry, but the Galaxy S6 + TMobile = Death

i have had nothing but bad luck with my brand new s6 on tmobile.
the main issue:
outgoing sms messages take at least 45 seconds to either get marked as send, or fail. when the fail, they are actually being sent. when they send, they send twice. 30% of the texts i send from my phone and to my phone do not make it to their destination at all.
fixes i have tried:
disabling volte, disabling wifi calling, switching back to stock messaging, factory resetting
tmobile support swore that a new sim card would fix the issue. it did not.
then support guaranteed me that a factory reset would fix the issue. against my better judgment, i reset the device. naturally, this made it worse; when i turn my phone on now i have zero bars of service for at least 5 minutes. literally no service. i am in nyc and normally have 5 bars of LTE.
nobody will recognize that this is actually a problem with tmobile, yet when i google "tmobile can't text over wifi" i get pages and pages of people with the exact same issue over years. reading through those threads there is no solution because tmobile support closes every one of them after 36 hours of inactivity, assuming the problem has been solved. what the **** kind of customer support is this?
texting is my primary form of communication and i am unable to use it. this is unacceptable behavior for any phone, let alone a brand new $700 super-hyped phone. i was on verizon for ten years and it never lost a single text. it's worth noting that there were similar issues with my last phone, an s4.
is nobody else having these issues?
postmastergeneral said:
i have had nothing but bad luck with my brand new s6 on tmobile.
the main issue:
outgoing sms messages take at least 45 seconds to either get marked as send, or fail. when the fail, they are actually being sent. when they send, they send twice. 30% of the texts i send from my phone and to my phone do not make it to their destination at all.
fixes i have tried:
disabling volte, disabling wifi calling, switching back to stock messaging, factory resetting
tmobile support swore that a new sim card would fix the issue. it did not.
then support guaranteed me that a factory reset would fix the issue. against my better judgment, i reset the device. naturally, this made it worse; when i turn my phone on now i have zero bars of service for at least 5 minutes. literally no service. i am in nyc and normally have 5 bars of LTE.
nobody will recognize that this is actually a problem with tmobile, yet when i google "tmobile can't text over wifi" i get pages and pages of people with the exact same issue over years. reading through those threads there is no solution because tmobile support closes every one of them after 36 hours of inactivity, assuming the problem has been solved. what the **** kind of customer support is this?
texting is my primary form of communication and i am unable to use it. this is unacceptable behavior for any phone, let alone a brand new $700 super-hyped phone. i was on verizon for ten years and it never lost a single text. it's worth noting that there were similar issues with my last phone, an s4.
is nobody else having these issues?
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I have the S6 on T-Mobile. I can text just fine using the stock app. Both SMS and MMS. Play with your APN settings, OR, use textra SMS. There is an option under MMS specifically for sending MMS while using wifi on T-Mobile.
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dc82 said:
I have the S6 on T-Mobile. I can text just fine using the stock app. Both SMS and MMS. Play with your APN settings, OR, use textra SMS. There is an option under MMS specifically for sending MMS while using wifi on T-Mobile.
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i do use textra and have tried every combination of their settings. i think my hardware is faulty; tmobile agreed to give me a replacement device. god help me.
postmastergeneral said:
i do use textra and have tried every combination of their settings. i think my hardware is faulty; tmobile agreed to give me a replacement device. god help me.
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Odd. Well, hope it works out for you.
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When i left Verizon a few years ago for t-mobile, i had had plenty of texts not making it to their destination, so trust me, verizon is not perfect. (they should be though with the amount that they charge)
Try using IP v6 in your settings...
Then try IP v4 in your settings
Then try IP v4 / v6 in your settings and see if that helps with
Native texting App text to yourself to test.
Restart each change of APN.
troysyx said:
When i left Verizon a few years ago for t-mobile, i had had plenty of texts not making it to their destination, so trust me, verizon is not perfect. (they should be though with the amount that they charge)
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Use to happen to me at least once a month on Verizon. T-Mobile hasn't lost one text for me yet. I keep asking myself why I stayed with big red for so long.
Reflash the original firmware - wipe everything start over. My GS6 works fine for me
robertkoa said:
Try using IP v6 in your settings...
Then try IP v4 in your settings
Then try IP v4 / v6 in your settings and see if that helps with
Native texting App text to yourself to test.
Restart each change of APN.
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IPv6 is what newer phones are coming preset with as opposed to IPv4 since that is what is correct going forward, per T-Mobile.
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still waiting on my replacement device, but here's an interesting thing i realized today: this problem only occurs in my apartment. BUT i am not connected to wifi (it's turned off and i told android to forget my home network), and i'm on a 9th floor apartment with no other buildings around me. i've never had reception issues in the past here...this doesn't make sense to me at all
I'm using a T-mobile S6 since April 10th. I use Textra also over WiFi with 0 issues. All sms and mms come and go without issue.
philliman said:
I'm using a T-mobile S6 since April 10th. I use Textra also over WiFi with 0 issues. All sms and mms come and go without issue.
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Same, guess we're fortunate lol. I haven't seen or heard any text related issue specific to the S6, I know MMS is sometimes wonky with T-Mobile while connected to WiFi
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Sms sending problem when using on Verizon LRA partner carrier

My carrier refuses to help me with this issue since it's not a phone that they carry.
First some background info. I have a problem using the Nexus 6 on my carrier, "Bluegrass Cellular" which is a regional cdma/lte carrier partnered with Verizon Wireless under their "LRA" (LTE in rural America) program. This issue I can guarantee happens with every user using the device on other carriers under the same agreement. Friend who uses a n6 on another partnered carrier has the same problem. The Issue doesn't seem to be ROM dependant either. If more carrier specific info is needed I can provide it.
Before a wonky work around mentioned next, this is the issue. Problem is if connected to LTE, everything works properly, calls in and out, mms in and out, and receiving sms as normal. But you cannot send sms (pre 14r radio, after 14r radio sends but delays). If you are connected to LTE, when you send a sms it will fail with the message message, "cant send message (insert carrier name) error -1. But you could downgrade network to 3g and you can send fine. But back to LTE sms lags.
Only fix/work around is to flash any m preview radio. Which leads me to think it could possibly be radio related. With those, sms sends, but it takes 40 seconds to send per text. Does anyone have any ideas? 14r+ radio with delay is better than nothing, but it's still rather frustrating.
Outgoing sms on LTE/cdma: average 40 second delay to send message, with higher than normal send failure rate.
Outgoing sms with LTE disabled: sms sends within 5 seconds.
Still when on LTE there is no delay on receiving texts. Only sending.
I Tried sms over ims on/off and a few other pokes and prods, no different. Can provide logcat or anything else if desired. Just trying to get an idea what's going on.
Tl;Dr
APNS are set properly, mms in/out works fine, calls in/out work fine, receiving sms is fine, sending sms on cdma 1x/3g is fine.. Just sending sms on LTE has a roughly 40 second send time with a abnormal send failure rate.
Sorry for the long post I am just trying to cover all the bases for which could be applicable to finding a solution. Thanks in advance for any inputs!
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Bump still looking for any suggestions at all
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Bump, still looking for any input to the situation
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Same issue
I just switched to Bluegrass Cellular today and brought my Nexus 6 aboard and am experiencing the exact same issue. I am running Android 5.1.1 with baseband: MDM9625_10446.01.02.101R and cannot send SMS outbound at all. I can receive SMS, calls, and data all fine, but no outbound texts will go through at all. I will follow the advice already in this thread and update to Android M preview to see if the updated baseband will "sorta" fix the issue so I can at least send outbound, even if it is delayed. I am willing to provide logs if anyone can look into this issue and see a possible resolution.
M preview radio will sorta fix it and make it so it will send on LTE after a delay of like 40 seconds. If you are on 1x/3g sms will work fine.
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stlpengineer said:
I just switched to Bluegrass Cellular today and brought my Nexus 6 aboard and am experiencing the exact same issue. I am running Android 5.1.1 with baseband: MDM9625_10446.01.02.101R and cannot send SMS outbound at all. I can receive SMS, calls, and data all fine, but no outbound texts will go through at all. I will follow the advice already in this thread and update to Android M preview to see if the updated baseband will "sorta" fix the issue so I can at least send outbound, even if it is delayed. I am willing to provide logs if anyone can look into this issue and see a possible resolution.
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No need to flash the entire M. Just flash the radio unless you want more that don't work.
I just wish we could figure out why it delays and how to resolve it. Any radio but m preview sms will just fail after so long. M preview radio will delay but eventually send after average 45 seconds. It's just so odd to me.
Calls in out fine
Mms in out fine
Sms in fine
Sms out 1x/3g fine
Sms out LTE no m radio no send
Sms out LTE m radio 40 seconds to send but will send.
Interestingly enough if you go into network settings and set to LTE only rather than LTE cdma sms will not send. So I can't tell if it's radio or it not wanting to use the ims features I'm really lost at this point
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prdog1 said:
No need to flash the entire M. Just flash the radio unless you want more that don't work.
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Can you please provide me a link to a tutorial or explain how I can flash the baseband on my current version of Android? I've never done that before, but would love to learn how to.
stlpengineer said:
Can you please provide me a link to a tutorial or explain how I can flash the baseband on my current version of Android? I've never done that before, but would love to learn how to.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/general/how-to-nexus-6-one-beginners-guide-t2948481 all you need to know is here
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Anybody at all????? I also suffer from this annoyance and along with evilryry have tried multiple things to no avail...
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If it is delayed it is carrier. Nothing you do to device outside APN and PRL will fix in my opinion. Carrier/tower problem.
Progress
Ok, I flashed the 24R Android M Preview 3 baseband to my phone last night and texts were still failing altogether this morning when on LTE. I had alot of text messages on my phone (over 21,000 total according to the SMS Backup and Restore app). I deleted alot of old text messages on my phone and my texts are now going through without delay. However...MMS is still not working, but I suspect that has something to do with me not having a Bluegrass APN setup on my phone (if anyone has BG's APN settings, I would be happy if you could provide me a link to them, because I do not see them on their website).
stlpengineer said:
Ok, I flashed the 24R Android M Preview 3 baseband to my phone last night and texts were still failing altogether this morning when on LTE. I had alot of text messages on my phone (over 21,000 total according to the SMS Backup and Restore app). I deleted alot of old text messages on my phone and my texts are now going through without delay. However...MMS is still not working, but I suspect that has something to do with me not having a Bluegrass APN setup on my phone (if anyone has BG's APN settings, I would be happy if you could provide me a link to them, because I do not see them on their website).
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If you want to use mms on a non bluegrass phone you are limited to one specific texting app "8sms" with mms settings as shown in picture. Make sure you don't forget the last setting X-MDN:##LINE1#. Mainly you need the mmsc mms on wifi (yes bluegrass supports it) and the extra http header above.
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prdog1 said:
If it is delayed it is carrier. Nothing you do to device outside APN and PRL will fix in my opinion. Carrier/tower problem.
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Why would it work fine in other phones across multiple carriers in this instance? I've tested several different phones also and I've noticed this happens only in Motorola phones not made specifically for Verizon lra carriers. I've used a Verizon galaxy s4 and everything worked great. It feels like somewhere in the radio software or wherever is not letting the ims feature work.
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Still Occuring on Android 6.0
So here's an update. I had been running Android 5.1.1 on my Nexus 6 for months with the 24R baseband and had zero problems with SMS being delayed. Everything worked like normal. I updated to Android 6.0 which installed the 27R baseband and the delayed SMS issue is back. I tried reverting the baseband to 24R and the delayed SMS issue was still present. Any ideas on how to fix this? I will be happy to provide logs or any other diagnostic information.
Odd....
Quite frankly, I'm still baffled by this issue. I bought the Nexus 6p and am still with Bluegrass Cellular. Once I popped in my SIM and had them change my IMEI number, I thought that the delayed SMS issue would be a thing of the past. The issue is STILL PRESENT on the Nexus 6p which is manufacturered by an entirely different company than the 6 was (Huawei). I don't suspect it is the radio any longer, as this has happened to me on multiple phones.
I've been toying with different remedies and strategies for months. I've started thinking it's software related and needs to be addressed to Google, but unfortunately I highly doubt they'd care.
stlpengineer said:
Quite frankly, I'm still baffled by this issue. I bought the Nexus 6p and am still with Bluegrass Cellular. Once I popped in my SIM and had them change my IMEI number, I thought that the delayed SMS issue would be a thing of the past. The issue is STILL PRESENT on the Nexus 6p which is manufacturered by an entirely different company than the 6 was (Huawei). I don't suspect it is the radio any longer, as this has happened to me on multiple phones.
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Check your pm
evilryry said:
If you want to use mms on a non bluegrass phone you are limited to one specific texting app "8sms" with mms settings as shown in picture. Make sure you don't forget the last setting X-MDN:##LINE1#. Mainly you need the mmsc mms on wifi (yes bluegrass supports it) and the extra http header above.
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Didn't know you had a thread going for this. Do you still need 8sms with those headers added? I could probably change your http header elsewhere and get it working with all message apps.
For the SMS delayed issue, I have found a fix with the help of @evilryry and have made a flashable for it. Just waiting for a little more confirmation so I can be sure to give accurate instructions.
daheazle said:
Didn't know you had a thread going for this. Do you still need 8sms with those headers added? I could probably change your http header elsewhere and get it working with all message apps.
For the SMS delayed issue, I have found a fix with the help of @evilryry and have made a flashable for it. Just waiting for a little more confirmation so I can be sure to give accurate instructions.
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I can comment that I've been using Google messenger for somebtime now and it's been fully functional. Just have to restore apns with apn backup and restore that I got from a rooted thumb cellular phone and then add mms line to apn type under vzwinternet and so far so good.

VZW cannot send message card 1 error -1

I get lag/failure sending SMS/MMS and an error message of "Cannot send message Card 1 error -1" Does anyone know a fix to this? i have read that on sprint switching to 3g will fix it but i'm curious if a new radio or different radio works better? or ROM? This is driving me nuts i just bought the damn phone a couple months ago.
closurez said:
I get lag/failure sending SMS/MMS and an error message of "Cannot send message Card 1 error -1" Does anyone know a fix to this? i have read that on sprint switching to 3g will fix it but i'm curious if a new radio or different radio works better? or ROM? This is driving me nuts i just bought the damn phone a couple months ago.
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Stock or custom ROM? What is your current radio?
Stock unrooted mdm9625?
I have read more and the problem seems to be more prevalent on sprint (at least there are more forum posts about it). Not sure why nobody on Verizon seems to be having same issue or talking about it.
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Try updating your SMSC. (short messanging service center) It's for messages basically how switches route calls. Depending on the phone you should be able to go to the dialer and type in *#*#4636#*#* and select Phone, scroll all the way down, SMSC should be empty. You can choose update or refresh and the number should popluate.
Alternately you may have to go to go to messaging > settings > message center > and update or refresh there.
Update said error and refresh popped up a number? Am I suppose to do something with the number or is that all?
Well I don't know what it did but it seems to be working fine so far today. Will update if it changes back! Thanks a bunch!
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Nope its back to being screwy. Another bit is I'm on a network extender at home. Would that make any difference? I tried the update again and its not working since I have been back home on the extender.
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