I have a problem regarding the micro USB port on my Nexus 6.
My phone seems to be "breaking" micro USB cables. I am currently on my 6th wire in just 2 months, the previous 4 months I had no issues with the stock cable.
USB cables seem to have a very snug fit, and I believe the problem happens when I am pulling the cable out of my phone (requiring some force). The broken cables have a much looser fit and will not charge the device unless positioned in a certain way or not at all. The two small pins on the micro USB plug seem to be sticking out much less than on a brand new cable (as if my Nexus 6 is somehow damaging this pins and ruining cables after just a few uses).
Does anyone have this issue?
I have attached pictures of a NEW and OLD cables so you can see what my phone is doing to the small prongs/pins.
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Today I managed to get my NookColor cable caught in my car door while I was getting in my car to head to work. This mangled the cable up pretty good. After much swearing and a trip to Barnes and Nobles I purchased a replacement cable. With the new cable in hand I figured I might as well take the end apart on the broken one to see how it was wired up. Using a pocket knife I forced the joint where the two pieced of plastic are joined together apart. The end result is rather interesting.
The first image is of the top side of the connector. This is where the little LED is located. The second image is of the bottom side of the connector. The third is of the bottom side of the connector with the shield removed.
The interesting thing is that the connector does not actually have the four standard pads for connecting to the normal USB pins in the NC's socket. It only connects to the twelve extra pins at the back of the NC's socket. Two of those extra pins must be for the standard USB communications. At least two more are used for the power connection to the NC. That leaves eight unknown pins. One or two of which probably controls the LED on the cable. As soon as I can find my multimeter, I plan on doing a continuity check between the USB cable wires and the pins in the connector. Any other suggestions of things I should be looking for?
I read in passing that the deeper socket on the nc, that makes regular microUSB cables not charge the nc, relates to the extra contacts needed to charge the bigger battery more quickly. Will try to find the reference-
Regular cables DO charge... At 500mha, the stock rom does not she charging but it does around 10%/hr if idle.
There are certainly several ground pins which should be ready to find. finding those will help narrow it down.
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Khaytsus: i stand corrected. Found the reference: barnes& noble 'book clubs' (ie forums) thread on "things that you should know about the NookCOLOR." A non nook color USB won't charge it when in a wall socket, but may keep the battery from at least going down.
Even a NC branded USB isn't officially expected to charge a NC, if plugged into a pc USB port. Neverrtheless, some say it trickle charges when left atrached to a computer all night (like 8hrs). In a wall socket it supposed to charge in 4 -5 hours.
Interestingly, NC won't charge at all if turned entirely off while plugged in.
The same thing happened with me too(my cable also broke, and i decided to experiment with it). Here's what i found out.
1. Three wires in the usb cables are solely meant for charging.
2. If only two (ground an one live) wires are connected, the stock cable charges nook like a ordinary usb cable(very slow).
3. The nooks usb cable tip had 3-4 more outputs which were not connected to any wires in the usb cable(they could be anything from mic input to video output).
I was trying to get more info on these extra outputs by soldering some wires to them but it needs very fine soldering, i couldn't achieve that and i broke mine entirely.
That reminds me can anyone send me a extra cable as am not in U.S(so B&N won't send me one) and am sick of waiting for 10 hours before i can play with my nook again.
mjf0000000 said:
Interestingly, NC won't charge at all if turned entirely off while plugged in.
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Uummm... Don't think this is true as I charged my Nook just last night with it turned off.
I'm sure you have this, but for anyone else who would like to look at the standard USB pinouts.
While I'm on the topic, did the Nova disection help in determining the Nook end of the connections?
the last time i looked, Nova hadn't really looked that close at the USB...they were focusing on the wifi/BT chip.
very nice was planning on doing this myself one day soon...any chance you can go in a bit closer and get clearer pics of the traces on the pcb? Would really help to decipher it.
Interested to see a breakdown of a standard micro usb vs nooks for comparisons sake
A couple of things:
-The NC connector has a row of 12 pins, but does not have any pins that match with the "legacy" microusb pins. At least 4 of the signals on that connector duplicate the microusb pins (gnd, d+, d-, +5). IIRC there are two +5 pins on that row and three grounded pins.
-Hooking only +5 and gnd to the USB end of the stock cable causes the NC to charge at max current draw. I made a short USB interposer that does this. I suppose you could put some carefully applied tape over the middle pins if you wanted to try. Here are some measurements I did of various ways of powering the NC a while back:http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9410625&postcount=243
mjf0000000 said:
Khaytsus: i stand corrected. Found the reference: barnes& noble 'book clubs' (ie forums) thread on "things that you should know about the NookCOLOR." A non nook color USB won't charge it when in a wall socket, but may keep the battery from at least going down.
Even a NC branded USB isn't officially expected to charge a NC, if plugged into a pc USB port. Neverrtheless, some say it trickle charges when left atrached to a computer all night (like 8hrs). In a wall socket it supposed to charge in 4 -5 hours.
Interestingly, NC won't charge at all if turned entirely off while plugged in.
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I have one interesting finding to note. Most USB wall adapters are 500mA. I happened to have a USB wall adapter that is 1A. With my 1A, I was able not only able to keep the battery from draining, but I was able to replenish it (although it was very slow) As a comparison, the USB adapter from B&N is capable of 2A.
I will try and get closer pics of the PCB when I get home from work. I just need to get better lighting than my dark home office.
My defy+ cable has on the mirco side two metal pins on each side. Normale cables got only two metal pins on the wider side of the mirco side.
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Sorry, I don't understand you, but you can use standard microusb wires for data and charge with your Defy+ (I usually use a Samsung usb wire)
The cables i used on my htc Desire wont charge or are only use full for date transfer. When i trie to charge true my charger or car charger. It start charging and within a second i got a message that it is unconnectend and then connected again. And it loops.
taarmen said:
My defy+ cable has on the mirco side two metal pins on each side. Normale cables got only two metal pins on the wider side of the mirco side.
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Those aren't "pins" in the sense of providing data signals or charging current. They are more like small springs designed to improve the mechanical retention of the micro USB plug in the socket. They don't make any difference to the electrical or electronic function of the USB cable, beyond reducing the risk of a poor physical connection, or a loss of physical connection if the handset is moved which charging/transferring data.
My Blackberry charger's micro USB plug doesn't have them , but the short USB to micro USB cable which came with my noise-cancelling headphones does - and the only function of that cable is to charge the battery in the headphones. I think you will find that there are a number of subtle mechanical variations of this kind between micro USB plugs from different manufacturers.
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The cables i used on my htc Desire wont charge or are only use full for date transfer. When i trie to charge true my charger or car charger. It start charging and within a second i got a message that it is unconnectend and then connected again. And it loops.
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I used with my Defy+ usb chargers and usb cables from Samsung Wave and Blackberry 8990 and all of these works property for charging and for data transfers.
Maybe your HTC usb cable don´t work propertly?
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Maybe your HTC usb cable don´t work propertly?
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Other possibilities are that the charger is faulty or providing a charge current which is slightly outside spec, or that there is a problem with the battery. I have seen problems caused by both of these kinds of fault (with third-party chargers and batteries) when using my Motorola USB cable.
I'm having a bit of an issue with my usb port where I need to push the cable upwards (if you are facing the phones screen) in order for the phone to begin charging. It also is taking a little longer than normal. I have tried a different cable as well with the same result.
Is there anyway to repair the usb port on the HD7? I just took the case apart on the back, but the port is still shielded. Is there any instructions out there on how to replace this port?
Iron soldering or a new board, your choice.
try with the soldering, if that fails, a new board must be bought, it cost around $25-$35 online.
I just bought a new Nexus 7 (2013), it is about a week old.
Last night I left the supplied ASUS charger and micro-USB cable plugged in overnight (fortunately the cable was not connected to the Nexus.) When I woke up this morning the micro-USB plug had literally melted, with plastic oozing out of the plug housing and through the plug itself. Had the cable been plugged in it would have destroyed the Nexus USB connector. I've seen several reports on the web of this scenario but none with a clear explanation of where the "fire" started. See the attachment.
Does ASUS have a problem here? In any case my plan for now is to use a wireless charger, it is too scary to think what would have happened to the tablet had the cable been plugged in.
I've opened a case with ASUS and they've asked me to RMA the cable so they can inspect it.
First off; post this in the right section. The 2013 folks would want to see it
Second.. Is there something in the USB cable on the 2013, like an LED, etc? What in the world could cause such a short in the plug of the cable like that? Scary.
Sorry, I didn't notice there was a separate topic for the (2013) Nexus 7. I'll replicate my original post there.
There aren't any components on the cable other than a USB Type A male connector on one end and a micro-USB male on the other.
The original charger cable for my phone got stolen and I've been having issues finding cables to fit in my phone, all the micro usb cables I have tried seem like they are too small for it and will not stay in my phone. Is anyone else having these issues are have any ideas on how to fix it.
Thank you in advanced
Sounds like the USB port is worn out. MicroUSB cables are all the same size, so they can't really be too small.
I find its critical how I put a cable in. I think the connector may be on the 'big' end of the spec, so a plug can go in, overriding the tab with the connections.
Also, some plugs work better then others. Maybe try a different cable?
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with a little searching I figured out my issue to anyone else having these problems, take a wooden toothpick and clean out your usb port. I cleaned tons of lint out of it and now it works great