Hey guys.I need some suggestions about moto x.I'm planning to get one but after reading so many negative comments about latest lollipop update,I'm not sure if I should get it.
I'm gonna ask some questions and I hope you will answer me.
1: How's the performance with official LP?My xperia sp becomes sluggish after 1-2 days so I have to reboot it.
2: How's the battery life?I easily get 4-5 hours of SoT with xperia sp.(I know it has bigger battery than moto x but i think battery life should be about same or only litte less than that.)I don't use mobile data,just wifi.Little bit gaming and messaging.Mostly fb and youtube.
Nothing Negative if you keep it STOCK
umair42 said:
Hey guys.I need some suggestions about moto x.I'm planning to get one but after reading so many negative comments about latest lollipop update,I'm not sure if I should get it.
I'm gonna ask some questions and I hope you will answer me.
1: How's the performance with official LP?My xperia sp becomes sluggish after 1-2 days so I have to reboot it.
2: How's the battery life?I easily get 4-5 hours of SoT with xperia sp.(I know it has bigger battery than moto x but i think battery life should be about same or only litte less than that.)I don't use mobile data,just wifi.Little bit gaming and messaging.Mostly fb and youtube.
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I have been using the phone for the past 5 days on 5.1 Lollipop. I bought it 15 months back on its Launch Date in India.
I never rooted it or unlocked the Bootloader. I am in stock from start.
Installed Lollipop, backed up my data and did a reset (this is what I do after every update)
1. No performance issues. its butter smooth. (and no matter what happens, I used to reboot my phone every night)
2. Same 4-5hrs SoT like many other devices (with Moto Display ON; 4 hours on 3g for Whatsapp, Gmail; I didn't install any game after the reset though; also Black Wallpaper) and with 20% left :angel:
The first gen X would be a good and value for money phone to buy now. Also note, 5.1 would be the last official update.
My favorite phone any day...
Thanks.So you are using totally stock LP and getting decent performance and battery life.I would probably root it to remove unwanted apps and bloatware.
nijom said:
I have been using the phone for the past 5 days on 5.1 Lollipop. I bought it 15 months back on its Launch Date in India.
I never rooted it or unlocked the Bootloader. I am in stock from start.
Installed Lollipop, backed up my data and did a reset (this is what I do after every update)
1. No performance issues. its butter smooth. (and no matter what happens, I used to reboot my phone every night)
2. Same 4-5hrs SoT like many other devices (with Moto Display ON; 4 hours on 3g for Whatsapp, Gmail; I didn't install any game after the reset though; also Black Wallpaper) and with 20% left :angel:
The first gen X would be a good and value for money phone to buy now. Also note, 5.1 would be the last official update.
My favorite phone any day...
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If you don't mind me asking where have you read that 5.1 would be the last official update? I'm curious.
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umair42 said:
Thanks.So you are using totally stock LP and getting decent performance and battery life.I would probably root it to remove unwanted apps and bloatware.
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There's not much Bloat in Moto nowadays... (those were the days of Blur)
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bushako said:
If you don't mind me asking where have you read that 5.1 would be the last official update? I'm curious.
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Back from my Moto RAZR days, Motorola never updated any Retail (especially Asian) version for more than 1.5 years.
Who says NO to an update!
I didnt read it anywhere. That's based on my experience with Moto from 2.3.5
nijom said:
There's not much Bloat in Moto nowadays... (those were the days of Blur)
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Well,that's great but still I'll root it coz I use many root apps
@nijom I forgot to ask how's the camera?Is it really bad in low light conditions?How's the color reproduction?Is it improved in Lollipop or not?
not bad
umair42 said:
@nijom I forgot to ask how's the camera?Is it really bad in low light conditions?How's the color reproduction?Is it improved in Lollipop or not?
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camera on indoors with low light and night is not so good.
on day light its great.
however there's exposure control combined with touch focus.
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Ok so i'm trying to get a used moto x but don't know which one to get.There are several variants but I want one which can be rooted on latest 5.1 update.I searched but couldn't find exact answer.
Can anyone tell me please?
umair42 said:
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Ok so i'm trying to get a used moto x but don't know which one to get.There are several variants but I want one which can be rooted on latest 5.1 update.I searched but couldn't find exact answer.
Can anyone tell me please?
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Get the non carrier variant
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Sorry for bumping this thread again.One last question.
If I get xt1058, other than at&t,i'll be able to unlock its bootloader from moto website right?
And all moto x's carrier variant have a logo on their back?
I have seen many moto x that don't have carrier logo on their back but they are xt-1058 models.
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Despite the release of kernel sources, why isn't there much development for this phone? Is it because most developers don't have this phone, or because they're waiting for the release of lollipop?
I kinda now wish that I'd bought the Moto G 1st gen lol.
Wish I knew! My guess is that they're waiting for Lollipop. Then again, this phone is still young. So not many people / developers own this device. And Motorola isn't Samsung or HTC. It's a small fish in the smartphone ocean!
smitharro said:
Wish I knew! My guess is that they're waiting for Lollipop. Then again, this phone is still young. So not many people / developers own this device. And Motorola isn't Samsung or HTC. It's a small fish in the smartphone ocean!
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Yeah, but moto g has like ****loads of ROMs.
But, any how here's to speedy development
mahendru1992 said:
Yeah, but moto g has like ****loads of ROMs.
But, any how here's to speedy development
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It'll come!
Fingers crossed
Drivers were released a few days ago, so yeah, they are coming
meadillas11 said:
Drivers were released a few days ago, so yeah, they are coming
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Yeah I hope so too. I'm also hoping that a developer does comment here and make us stop worrying
Slow development??? The phone was released less than two months ago. Not to mention in stock mode it is already a kick-ass phone.
But as with all things, there is always somebody who isn't happy with the status quo.
pastorbob62 said:
Slow development??? The phone was released less than two months ago. Not to mention in stock mode it is already a kick-ass phone.
But as with all things, there is always somebody who isn't happy with the status quo.
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Chill Bro! I'm not happy, but certainly I'm not complaining also here.
And why I'm asking is because when the kernel sources weren't released, everybody was saying that wait till they release, and we'll get speedy development of ROMs and kernels. But now that sources have been released, no development. I was kinda disappointed.
I had a s3 before, and that phone had ROMs in the 1st month only. So yes I'm comparing. Kill me
pastorbob62 said:
Not to mention in stock mode it is already a kick-ass phone.
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On a side note, hows your battery life mate, I can barely make it through a day.
I Read on gsm arena that the endurance time was 50hrs.But I could see my meter spiraling downwards
Me thinks somethings wrong with my battery :cyclops:
Bdw Im using a dual sim version
Same here. Sometimes the battery lasts long enough, most of the time is goes empty very quickly and the top right corner of my XT1068 gets warm. Not hot, but warm. Don't know about the internal layout so don't know if it's related.
Wondering if I should RMA it or replace kernel/ROM and hope for the best.
metalrules321 said:
On a side note, hows your battery life mate, I can barely make it through a day.
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How come? Mine lasts easily through the day! Look carefully at the apps you're using: which one is consuming the most? Greenify it! Furthermore avoid using 3g. 2g Is fine for just Whatsapp etc! And don't use animated backgrounds!
mahendru1992 said:
Chill Bro! I'm not happy, but certainly I'm not complaining also here.
And why I'm asking is because when the kernel sources weren't released, everybody was saying that wait till they release, and we'll get speedy development of ROMs and kernels. But now that sources have been released, no development. I was kinda disappointed.
I had a s3 before, and that phone had ROMs in the 1st month only. So yes I'm comparing. Kill me
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No problem my friend. I understand the desire to improve on a good thing. I am sure we'll see some custom ROM's showing up soon.
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metalrules321 said:
On a side note, hows your battery life mate, I can barely make it through a day.
I Read on gsm arena that the endurance time was 50hrs.But I could see my meter spiraling downwards
Me thinks somethings wrong with my battery :cyclops:
Bdw Im using a dual sim version
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I get a full day's use out of it before I have to charge. But I play several games off and on throughout the day. On days where I don't do any game playing it will last two days.
I am on the single SIM model (XT1063)
What do you have running in the background?
pastorbob62 said:
What do you have running in the background?
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Pretty much empty.
I rooted and removed most of the moto and google bloats
The only persistent ones are whatsapp, viper4android and faux sound
And Im not playing games on it too except for maybe a round of pocket tanks and subway surfer and not using any animated wallpapers
I disabled my second sim just to see what results i get
metalrules321 said:
Pretty much empty.
I rooted and removed most of the moto and google bloats
The only persistent ones are whatsapp, viper4android and faux sound
And Im not playing games on it too except for maybe a round of pocket tanks and subway surfer and not using any animated wallpapers
I disabled my second sim just to see what results i get
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I usually recommend this to everyone, but if you're having battery drain problems, just use ubounced, a xposed module. I had around 8-10 hours of standby, but after using it, My standby increased to 24-26 hours, and Screen On Time was around 4-5 hours. I don't micromanage at all i.e 3g is on all the time, no WiFi, sync is on
Do you think is safe buying Moto 2014 then? I mean development will popout? Or better buy 2013 LTE ?
youngchaos said:
Do you think is safe buying Moto 2014 then? I mean development will popout? Or better buy 2013 LTE ?
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i'm worried for the same,to buy moto g 2014 or not seeing less or no develpoment here...i think i must go with moto X 13 but it has 16gb
in my region
asfagus said:
i'm worried for the same,to buy moto g 2014 or not seeing less or no develpoment here...i think i must go with moto X 13 but it has 16gb
in my region
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I just think is early. Just wait for some devs who can relieve us but we should receive modding aswell! Wait before buying !
guys
this phone can't handle facebook + launcher only opened ?
a galaxy star phone would do it better
even my 500 MB ram old phone is much more better than this
i don't have anything opened
just launcher and i get only 200 mb left of ram ?
if i opened any application it just redraws the launcher when i get out and it's very slow to get out of an application
what the **** ?
any solution would be appreciated very much
and rom would be appreciated too
theprincemoh said:
guys
this phone can't handle facebook + launcher only opened ?
a galaxy star phone would do it better
even my 500 MB ram old phone is much more better than this
i don't have anything opened
just launcher and i get only 200 mb left of ram ?
if i opened any application it just redraws the launcher when i get out and it's very slow to get out of an application
what the **** ?
any solution would be appreciated very much
and rom would be appreciated too
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are you running stock rom? What version android? what version of phone?
tmittelstaedt said:
are you running stock rom? What version android? what version of phone?
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stock rom 4.4.4
aaaaaaand
it's xt1063
no such problms, ram consumptuion is high bt less redraws
Go over here: https://forums.motorola.com/posts/6168839e0e?commentId=861143
and scream as loud as you can. May be someone will hear us!
theprincemoh said:
stock rom 4.4.4
aaaaaaand
it's xt1063
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Geeze we probably need to create a new forum titled "Moto G (2014) (2nd generation)"
This isn't 4.4.4 that's the problem. Most users on plain "Moto G (2014) 1st generation" are not having this problem including the people running 4.4.4
This is hardware differences in the 2nd generation Moto G 2014 version that are causing that.
I have the same problem, but in the Lollipop update it will be fixed. You just have to wait
Use an app such as the strangely named and excellent Kernel Adiutor to reduce the low memory killer thresholds. The thresholds set on 4.4.4 for the Moto G look suspisciously like they were intended for a device with 2GB of RAM. Simply halving every value will give you much better multitasking without introducing nasty side effects. Edit the build.prop to drop the VM heap growth limit from 96MB to 64MB. The editor built into Kernel Adiutor doesn't work on the Moto G atm, unfortunately.
Oh, and you might want to increase the max hidden apps prop to 15.
You will get about half of the ram as user available out of total in every smartphone. & that too may decrease depending on number of installed apps/updates...etc. Note this when u buy any phone.
guys
is it worth unlocking bootloader and getting custom rom or not ?
i never used stock roms on my older phones
but is it worth unlocking or just wait for update ?
theprincemoh said:
guys
is it worth unlocking bootloader and getting custom rom or not ?
i never used stock roms on my older phones
but is it worth unlocking or just wait for update ?
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I'm debating the same thing. I almost always rooted my phones but I was going to wait and try the OTA update when it's officially released. The memory issues I'm having are making thing about pushing ahead with root anyway but I don't know if the ROMs are any better at this point. I have an XT1064.
zeropants said:
I'm debating the same thing. I almost always rooted my phones but I was going to wait and try the OTA update when it's officially released. The memory issues I'm having are making thing about pushing ahead with root anyway but I don't know if the ROMs are any better at this point. I have an XT1064.
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i think i made my decision
i will try that titan rom
zeropants said:
I'm debating the same thing. I almost always rooted my phones but I was going to wait and try the OTA update when it's officially released. The memory issues I'm having are making thing about pushing ahead with root anyway but I don't know if the ROMs are any better at this point. I have an XT1064.
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They are way better than stock, you can't even compare the two.
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They are way better than stock, you can't even compare the two.
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OK, good to know. I'll have to unlock and give this a shot then...
Using ART helps
FWIW I've found that switching the runtime from Dalvik to ART helps a lot with the KK RAM management issues on this device. And that's even before rooting & greenifying etc. etc. So you may want to give that a try.
Hey Guys
I have a rooted moto x on android 4.4.4 and recently motorola released the android 5.1 OTA update for my device.
So i was just wondering if i should upgrade or not, or if there are any known problems because my friend with a nexus 5 upgraded to lolipop quickly and it was a disaster.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
andsherlock said:
Hey Guys
I have a rooted moto x on android 4.4.4 and recently motorola released the android 5.1 OTA update for my device.
So i was just wondering if i should upgrade or not, or if there are any known problems because my friend with a nexus 5 upgraded to lolipop quickly and it was a disaster.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
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other than loosing a few contacts ours which includes xt1060's and xt1058's went pretty smooth, some with unlocked BL and some with not
andsherlock said:
Hey Guys
I have a rooted moto x on android 4.4.4 and recently motorola released the android 5.1 OTA update for my device.
So i was just wondering if i should upgrade or not, or if there are any known problems because my friend with a nexus 5 upgraded to lolipop quickly and it was a disaster.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
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Pros and cons of lolipop (IMHO)
Pros:
1) New moto voice (you can set your own launch phrase)
2) Marginal lag reduction
Cons:
1) Mobile standby battery consumption is off the charts in all lollipop builds (No solution in sight yet)
2) Wave to wake on active display is disabled , can't get it to work without tasker (yes it was available in 4.4.4, although not advertised)
3) Internal space consumption is higher due to ART implementation
4) If you're an Xposed fan, the builds for Xposed right now are in the Alpha build stage .
5) Can't revert to 4.4.4 stock without chance of permanent bricking
Hope it helps
andsherlock said:
Hey Guys
I have a rooted moto x on android 4.4.4 and recently motorola released the android 5.1 OTA update for my device.
So i was just wondering if i should upgrade or not, or if there are any known problems because my friend with a nexus 5 upgraded to lolipop quickly and it was a disaster.
Any help is appreciated.
Thanks
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Hello. I actually searching for help with my phone and found this forum. I have the older moto x xt1058 (factory just the way it comes) it updated 4 days ago and I have already ordered a new phone diff brand. The phone is a complete different thing now.
Some of the issues include Bluetooth and wifi won't work if both on at same time, wifi connection is random, lots of lag time, turned off then back on a few times, drains battery like Super crazy crazy, and then I didn't like the changes in the way things look...like text messaging changed size and font, the keyboards changed ect.
Hopefully my phone is a fluke and other folks do much better.
Good luck to you and have a great day
guys
sorry for posting here but i think the members here are best qualified to answer this question. I have a nexus 6 running stock rom on verizon and want to get my wife something closest to it but she doesn't want a big phone. Anything 5 and under would do. What's the best phone that I can get her that that has plain google-type stock rom available for it? An older phone would do too but unfortunately nexus 5 doesn't work on verizon
Thanks
It's old, but:
http://www.ebay.com/bhp/verizon-galaxy-nexus
Otherwise, there's not much but perhaps a LG G2?
Your wife would be miserable with a Galaxy Nexus lol That battery life on Verizon's LTE will be destroyed in a few hours. If this were me and still wanted to do some tweaking on the phone's system, I'd go with a 2013 Moto X Developer Edition. It's not a Nexus, but it's stock Android with some Moto app enhancements.
Excellent suggestion! I completely forgot about the moto x.
You guys are phenomenal crazies - sorry ran out of adjectives but this forum is super and that recommendation is super-super!
1) How long do you see battery last with LTE turned on (basic email, maps & whatsapp)
2) Do you see stock rom development continue on this phone beyond Lollipop?
Thanks
Yes, we are only perhaps a few months from the official release of M so development will continue. Battery life is subjective and is mostly based on signal quality, apps used and screen brightness.
how about the samsung s3. Is that continuing to get new development like M?
Hello everyone,
i just bought the moto x 2014 on rueducommerce.com (299 euros, and as you may guess i'm french) earlier this week, it arrived yesterday. I have a question for you. Before this phone i had a xperia sp... Was great at the beginning... But every update i did (from 4.1.2 to 4.3) made the phone slower, even buggy. I never reached the comfort of the original jelly bean (4.1.2). Changed the phone 3 times with Orange, but all 3 devices had issues too.
My point is : i like kitkat, my phone is fast, i didn't download a lot of app and i'm not a fan of phone games. I'm afraid to lose the smoothness and fluidity of my phone as i read multiple times that lollipop was buggy. As you may understand, my experience with the sony left me traumatized with updates x)
I ask for your advice : is the 5.1 release worth updating Or maybe wait a little more, for android M?
Thanks for you replies
Deatscythe said:
Hello everyone,
i just bought the moto x 2014 on rueducommerce.com (299 euros, and as you may guess i'm french) earlier this week, it arrived yesterday. I have a question for you. Before this phone i had a xperia sp... Was great at the beginning... But every update i did (from 4.1.2 to 4.3) made the phone slower, even buggy. I never reached the comfort of the original jelly bean (4.1.2). Changed the phone 3 times with Orange, but all 3 devices had issues too.
My point is : i like kitkat, my phone is fast, i didn't download a lot of app and i'm not a fan of phone games. I'm afraid to lose the smoothness and fluidity of my phone as i read multiple times that lollipop was buggy. As you may understand, my experience with the sony left me traumatized with updates x)
I ask for your advice : is the 5.1 release worth updating Or maybe wait a little more, for android M?
Thanks for you replies
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Personally, I wouldn't go back to KitKat and I loved it when I was running it. The 5.1 update is running really good for me now. Battery life is a lot better since the latest Google Play services update because that was destroying my battery life. Everything else is good. I say give it a shot.
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Thanks for your answer. The battery is indeed weak, it doesn't bother me since I'm on holidays but it will be difficult in September. I downloaded deep battery saver but it doesn't change the battery life, or just a few
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