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Flashing 4.2.2 over 4.3

Hi guys,
I just want to ask if it is possible to flash any 4.2.2 Rom over a 4.3 one without changing the Bootloader or Modem (as far as I know kernel there are no other things updated in 4.3 except some features in stock Rom and kernel). I'm sorry if there is a thread like this one out there but I couldn't find it on my phone app
Thanks in advance for your time and help
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Now why would you do that? It's like installing windows ME over Windows 7
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It's because I like to have all the possibilities to personalise nz phone, and Roms like MIUI won't get 4.3 support in the next time it's just my opinion
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4.3's stock kernel sucks hard. I've experienced "unexpectedly closed" errors with certain apps and the device sometimes reboots itself without apparent reason. Had to flash the latest franco's nightly kernel in order to get this faulty release somewhat stable.
Nice GoinGoogle.

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It is possible with custom recovery, not possible with fastboot without updating the bootloader. You may use any modem. You need 4.3 kernel.
EDIT: my bad, it was other way around. Yes, it is possible.

4.3 stinks like hot garbage. I'm not upgrading, and I'm going to downgrade my new N7 to 4.2.2 if possible. 4.3 is like windows ME.

I still have 4.2.2 on my N4 and have only tried 4.3 on my Kindle Fire. From my experience I have little interest in upgrading my N4 for the time being, since 4.3.x will likely fix all the JSS and JWR issues.

Fatherboard said:
4.3's stock kernel sucks hard. I've experienced "unexpectedly closed" errors with certain apps and the device sometimes reboots itself without apparent reason. Had to flash the latest franco's nightly kernel in order to get this faulty release somewhat stable.
Nice GoinGoogle.
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I think your problem is caused by your usage pattern / apps which are not updated for 4.3, combined with unstable root. Don't blame Google unless you experience the same behaviour on unrooted stock.
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Wrong.
I experienced those crashes while on stock, even with google applications. that's a faulty release, not faulty device nor usage. for god sake, even "settings" menu has "unexpectedly closed" on me once.

Misledz said:
Now why would you do that? It's like installing windows ME over Windows 7
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I think it'd be more like going back to Windows 7 Sp1 from Windows 8
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I have had totally different experience with 4.2.2. To be honest I didn't like it at all. I didn't find it as "rock solid" as many other users here. (I came from Galaxy Nexus. Android 4.2 compared to really rock solid jzo54k 4.1.2 was imo buggy as hell. It didn't bring any performance boost but rather did the opposite: BT, WIFI issues, mem leak etc.) Plus I found this low touch sensitivity extremaly irritating. I use rooted stock 4.3 and so far I haven't noticed any bigger issues. Even if I do I really don't see a point to go back to still buggy 4.2.2. I think my device performs much better on 4.3. Maybe it's just a placebo effect, but it feels snappier and smoother. Just my subjective opinion.
Of course I do understand people that miss their favorite custom roms, whose 4.3-versions are still unavailable.

4.2.2 had and has clearly wifi/bt issues (major data stalls, difficulties in re-enabling bt after 20-30 hours of uptime).
These issues were solved. however, I'd expect 4.3 to be as stable as it can be, especially when it took more than 5 months for its release. Unfortunately, that's not the case. not even close, which is rather embarrassing.
I really was expecting for iOS-like smoothness and stability by now.

Fatherboard said:
4.2.2 had and has clearly wifi/bt issues (major data stalls, difficulties in re-enabling bt after 20-30 hours of uptime).
These issues were solved. however, I'd expect 4.3 to be as stable as it can be, especially when it took more than 5 months for its release. Unfortunately, that's not the case. not even close, which is rather embarrassing.
I really was expecting for iOS-like smoothness and stability by now.
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Maybe that's been your experience but my experience has been the exact opposite. It's made my N4 even more of a pleasure to use. It's smoother, snappier, and battery life is amazing. Mind you, I've never really had any problems with 4.2.2 except maybe GPS locking problems, which 4.3 solved. The only real problem with 4.3 is this whole JWR/JSS nonsense.

Fatherboard said:
4.2.2 had and has clearly wifi/bt issues (major data stalls, difficulties in re-enabling bt after 20-30 hours of uptime).
These issues were solved. however, I'd expect 4.3 to be as stable as it can be, especially when it took more than 5 months for its release. Unfortunately, that's not the case. not even close, which is rather embarrassing.
I really was expecting for iOS-like smoothness and stability by now.
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Not sure what's going on your end but my phone has been rock solid with no FCs at all since upgrading to 4.3 using the factory image (I never go the OTA route)

In case you're both running a stock 4.3 (unrooted), you're more than welcomed to run "angry gran run - running game" by ace viral and watch it boldly & proudly crash. If not on beginning, after few minutes. Just only one example out of many.
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Not sure if this is the right place but here goes.
I am on AOKP milestone 1 might update to milestone 2 soon. But what do I have to keep in mind when making the jump to 4.3? Will I be able to downgrade later without problems? I dont understand the modems and bootloader stuff. Plus if I flash 4.3 I will lose root, so how do I flash 4.3 without loosing root? do I root the phone again after flashing? or is there a shortcut?

DeepPurple15X said:
Not sure if this is the right place but here goes.
I am on AOKP milestone 1 might update to milestone 2 soon. But what do I have to keep in mind when making the jump to 4.3? Will I be able to downgrade later without problems? I dont understand the modems and bootloader stuff. Plus if I flash 4.3 I will lose root, so how do I flash 4.3 without loosing root? do I root the phone again after flashing? or is there a shortcut?
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You can flash a 4.3 rom in recovery, but its recommended to flash radio and bootloader in recovery.
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DeepPurple15X said:
Not sure if this is the right place but here goes.
I am on AOKP milestone 1 might update to milestone 2 soon. But what do I have to keep in mind when making the jump to 4.3? Will I be able to downgrade later without problems? I dont understand the modems and bootloader stuff. Plus if I flash 4.3 I will lose root, so how do I flash 4.3 without loosing root? do I root the phone again after flashing? or is there a shortcut?
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Android 4.3 ROMs require radio version .84 (or a hybrid 27/84 or 33/84 radio) and bootloader version makoz20i. As Thibaultvw points out radio version .84 and bootloader version makoz20i are both available as flashable zip files and should both be installed before installing a 4.3 based ROM. In addition, Android 4.3 requires SuperSU version 1.51 for working root privileges.
After upgrading the radio and bootloader for Android 4.3, you can restore or install an Android 4.2.2 ROM without changing the bootloader or radio.

frajobs said:
Hi guys,
I just want to ask if it is possible to flash any 4.2.2 Rom over a 4.3 one without changing the Bootloader or Modem (as far as I know kernel there are no other things updated in 4.3 except some features in stock Rom and kernel). I'm sorry if there is a thread like this one out there but I couldn't find it on my phone app
Thanks in advance for your time and help
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Give it a hard go bud lemme know how it works!

[Q] 4.3 or 4.1.2?

What software for my xperia is better????
4.3 or 4.1.2

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What software for my xperia is better????
4.3 or 4.1.2
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4.3 has the best performance for my phone :laugh:

I must admit that i'm finding 4.3 a little sluggish in comparison to 4.1.2.
I also think that there's less display options to play around with. I can't find a way of removing all lock-screen widgets. The one for the camera still appears even when disabled.
I'm also not keen on all the settings menus now being white as its very garish, but thats just a personal thing, and i'm sure I could get a theme to sort that out.
Not seeing any change in battery life, but thats not a bad thing.
I'm also finding that my internet browser crasher more now too.

4.3 is too damn slow
Don't go for the 4.3 update. wait a little time maybe sony will start to iron out the bugs because as of now it is unusable.
I recommend you stay on 4.1 a little longer ... maybe go straight to 4.4.

Forgot to add, the keyboard has been improved and once you get used to the change in predictive text it can be a lot quicker.
Must admit I am toying with the idea of going back to 4.1.

i am using existenz 4.3 rom, its like a butter... :good:

I have 4.3 and I am happy with this update. My phone is way faster, the apps are running and starting a bit smoother so no problems there.
The reported bugs; I HAVENT HAD ANY ONE ENCOUNTERD YET!
Yes the only one I can get is not working Bravia Engine2 but other than that is the update good.
If you are not sure what to do you can always come back to 4.1.2 if you want.
The link about flashing with flashtool can be found in my signature

Quick question though
Does the official backup and restore app works across android versions?
If I have backups from v. 4.1, would they will work in v. 4.3?
Thanks

if u a heavy user and prever stock rom, go for 4.3. in stock 4.1, memory management is main problem 4 me (CM/cm based rom is good memory management, but iam prever sony stock rom). im sure, if u not heavy user, u wont buy xsp . the only issues iam faced till now something my xsp out of memory like this, no solution except reboot (sorry 4 my bad english)

@warok88
I have this problem too,but few days ago i find solution and fix without root!
I like 4.3!

Miui , android 4.2.2 - old, but best if u dont playing 3d games

I´m using 4.3 with DooMKenel and I don´t have problems with ram or freezes, and you can use roms like cyagenonmod for android 4.4.2 or eXistenZ Ultra if you want a rom based on stock firmware

[Q] Why note 3 is so slow after 4.4.2 update ?

I received AT&T OTA update for 4.4.2 and after that I see that my phone is really slow. anyone else experiencing the same issues ?
Also, if I instal the custom ROM, I will lose all the S-Pen features ? Is there any ROM that offers any S-Pen features ?

iamsuper123 said:
I received AT&T OTA update for 4.4.2 and after that I see that my phone is really slow. anyone else experiencing the same issues ?
Also, if I instal the custom ROM, I will lose all the S-Pen features ? Is there any ROM that offers any S-Pen features ?
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I heard about people having issues after the OTA. Unfortunately if you took the OTA, you cannot root therefore you cannot install a custom ROM which is too bad. I am running Dynamic Kat and Dynamic Kat Xtreme which are extremely fast with minimal if any issues.

theorioles33 said:
I heard about people having issues after the OTA. Unfortunately if you took the OTA, you cannot root therefore you cannot install a custom ROM which is too bad. I am running Dynamic Kat and Dynamic Kat Xtreme which are extremely fast with minimal if any issues.
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Wait..I cannot root my note 3 ? How this is possible ? I thought it is possible to root any phone as long as custom ROM is available (irrespective of stock android) ? I cannot root my phone with roms like cyanogenmod etc ?

iamsuper123 said:
Wait..I cannot root my note 3 ? How this is possible ? I thought it is possible to root any phone as long as custom ROM is available (irrespective of stock android) ? I cannot root my phone with roms like cyanogenmod etc ?
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Not in the case of the Note 3 and the latest KitKat update from AT&T. You needed to be rooted on 4.3 and update to Kitkat via a custom ROM. Right now you and everyone else who took the OTA update are stuck. Sorry man. Read around the forums. You will see the sad truth.

iamsuper123 said:
Wait..I cannot root my note 3 ? How this is possible ? I thought it is possible to root any phone as long as custom ROM is available (irrespective of stock android) ? I cannot root my phone with roms like cyanogenmod etc ?
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Not if you have the At&t Note 3. (Locked Bootloader)
Your out of luck until Kingo comes out with a Root solution or someone else
Still you cant run a custom ROM that needs a kernal.
You can only install TouchWiz roms. FOREVER no exceptions until bootloader is unlocked which will never happen EVER.
Yes S Pen work with our custom ROMs. (TouchWiz) we cant install CM on these phones period.
So here is your situation. You have installed the wonderful Stock 4.4.2 from At&t and are stuck.
I would factory reset it (Stock Recovery) and see if that helps.
Thats it.

LuckyColdJohnson said:
Not if you have the At&t Note 3. (Locked Bootloader)
Your out of luck until Kingo comes out with a Root solution or someone else
Still you cant run a custom ROM that needs a kernal.
You can only install TouchWiz roms. FOREVER no exceptions until bootloader is unlocked which will never happen EVER.
Yes S Pen work with our custom ROMs. (TouchWiz) we cant install CM on these phones period.
So here is your situation. You have installed the wonderful Stock 4.4.2 from At&t and are stuck.
I would factory reset it (Stock Recovery) and see if that helps.
Thats it.
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Oh no..this is really strange and very surprising to me that there is no way to install custom ROM on AT&T note 3 with OTA 4.4.2 update.
So, in the update they have locked the bootloader completely which cannot be unlocked ? Because in normal rooting process, we usually unlock the booatloader first, it can't be done in this case ?
Is this restriction added from AT&T or Samsung ?

iamsuper123 said:
Oh no..this is really strange and very surprising to me that there is no way to install custom ROM on AT&T note 3 with OTA 4.4.2 update.
So, in the update they have locked the bootloader completely which cannot be unlocked ? Because in normal rooting process, we usually unlock the booatloader first, it can't be done in this case ?
Is this restriction added from AT&T or Samsung ?
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When this Phone first came out the bootloader was locked (By At&t)
This new update didn't do that. You just can't root your phone on the OTA 4.4.2 right now.
Once you get it rooted, you can install SafeStrap 3.72 and flash a custom rom.
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LuckyColdJohnson said:
iamsuper123 said:
Oh no..this is really strange and very surprising to me that there is no way to install custom ROM on AT&T note 3 with OTA 4.4.2 update.
So, in the update they have locked the bootloader completely which cannot be unlocked ? Because in normal rooting process, we usually unlock the booatloader first, it can't be done in this case ?
Is this restriction added from AT&T or Samsung ?
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You just can't root your phone on the OTA 4.4.2 right now.
Once you get it rooted, you can install SafeStrap 3.72 and flash a custom rom.
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I am a little confused. if I can't root this phone then what do you mean by once you get it rooted ? if it is not possible then how I will get this phone rooted at first place and install SafeStrap 3.72 ?
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Man oh man. It's okay. I got you.
You can still root this phone. You just have to wait for someone to figure it out like Kingo.
We rooted before the OTA and I froze the update apk.
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I installed a custom KITKAT rom and enjoying my phone a lot. Just have to stay involved in these forms and read read read. You will be fine. Check Kingo android root online to see if the released a new version that will root it for you. Locked bootloader means no custom kernels, there for AOSP, CM and others won't work. Only Touch wiz.
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LuckyColdJohnson said:
Man oh man. It's okay. I got you.
You can still root this phone. You just have to wait for someone to figure it out like Kingo.
We rooted before the OTA and I froze the update apk.
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Oh ok..so Kingo is working on it and still not done ?
Also..what you say..you froze the update apk..what do you mean by that ? when you rooter the note 3 before OTA, you successfully completed that and now you are running custom ROM ?

I froze the system app that updates automatically. So I wouldn't get NB4 or what you have. Using TBU
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Read my friend. You will get it. It's what I did. I don't flame people though. Surprised nobody has flamed in here but you are learning I guess. Please hit thanks on my post if I have helped you. Thanks goes far. Cya. Have a good weekend
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Is there any way to make the performance of note 3 faster and less sluggish (OTHER THAN FACTORY RESET) ?
I have tried doing a factory reset but still note 3 performance is not good even tho this is a great specs phone.

Turn off all of the boatware in the settings menu. That should help some. Also, go into developer options and change the animation scales to .5 or off. That won't really make your phone faster, but it will seem faster. There's a thread in the general section about making your phone super fast.

Face_Plant said:
Turn off all of the boatware in the settings menu. That should help some. Also, go into developer options and change the animation scales to .5 or off. That won't really make your phone faster, but it will seem faster. There's a thread in the general section about making your phone super fast.
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1) What does this animation option does ?
2) How to disable the boatware ? How to disable app as I do not see disable button in app settings for any app ? can you please give me a test example please ?

The changing the animation times will make the animations between switching windows faster or slower. Changing them to .5 will make them faster and off will make them nonexistent so there will be no animations between windows. When the animations are faster/off it will make the phone seem faster. Not sure if my explanation is clear enough, but if you try it you'll see what I mean.
To turn stuff off, go to the settings menu, application manager, and pick an application. For example, let's say you pick HP Print Plugin. Near the top right of the screen you will see a button that says "turn off". Push this and the application will be disabled. Some of them you cannot turn off. Be careful which ones you turn off because it can cause problems if you disable the wrong thing.

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The changing the animation times will make the animations between switching windows faster or slower. Changing them to .5 will make them faster and off will make them nonexistent so there will be no animations between windows. When the animations are faster/off it will make the phone seem faster. Not sure if my explanation is clear enough, but if you try it you'll see what I mean.
To turn stuff off, go to the settings menu, application manager, and pick an application. For example, let's say you pick HP Print Plugin. Near the top right of the screen you will see a button that says "turn off". Push this and the application will be disabled. Some of them you cannot turn off. Be careful which ones you turn off because it can cause problems if you disable the wrong thing.
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Thank you, I found the settings.

any update for rooting AT&T note 3 running stock 4.4.2 ? anyone figure it out with any custom rom ?

anyone ??

iamsuper123 said:
anyone ??
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Nope! No root yet.

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440bro said:
Nope! No root yet.
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ok, thanks

Downgrade to kitkat from lollipop

Hi
i can downgrade my note to kitkat from lollipop without any problems?
I made root in lollipop...
Thanks

Yes, just have to find your phones kk firmware and flash through Odin.
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Ok
what the best stock version of kitkat to get the best battery life?
I install the israeli version and i get same battery life like lollipop
thanks

I would highly recommending installing the stock version of KitKat that is released for your country.

Yes, i've just done this myself. I got the phone last week, and in amongst all the other 9 million pop-ups that Samsung provide, I accidently pressed yes to upgrade to lollipop.
I ran it for a day and the lag was terrible, so I have now gone back to KitKat. As above, I just went for stock for my country. It seems a lot better now. Once they release another lollipop patch i'll update. It's a shame, as I still think my htc one m8 is slightly faster. It feels more responsive. Anyway, thats off topic.
As above, just use Odin. I'm new to modding Samsung devices really, but managed it easy enough following the various guides around.

Did you guys have to factory reset your device after the downgrade?
If so, does the Kies application backup function safe the application data (logged in accounts, safegames, application settings etc.) too?

LG L90 Question and Help on updating

So i have an LG L90 which i updated via phone OTA update to android 5.0.2 official lollipop,but i encountered an unusual issue.
The phone worked fine for 2-3 days than all apps in the apss>ram usage were restarting,so that caused the phone to lag,to load UI over and over again,programs also...this only was solved with restart,and that would give it again 2-3 lag-free days
So i downgraded it back to kitkat,and it is fine.
After that i rooted it using root scirpt for G3,but it is working for L90 also.
Now i am considering to try to update it once more to LP but this time via pc,maybe that will solve the problem ?
Now the question is
1. Will i be able to update it via pc,because of root...i don't want to brick it
2. Does someone know what was the problem first time with lollipop,and will the pc update method solve that
Thanks in advance
(sorry for typo mistakes if there are any)

Anyone knows the problem,or has something to suggest
btw phone model is D405N

Stock lollipop on this phone is known to have that problems.
I wouldn't recommend the upgrade to lollipop at all.. You could try to install CM custom roms, they work better than stock.

What I've done trying to minimize this:
1. Make UI faster speeding up animations
2. Avoid apps that run in the background all the time (background services that stay open always) like whatsapp and facebook
3. Modified Low Memory Kill limits a bit.
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jesuita said:
Stock lollipop on this phone is known to have that problems.
I wouldn't recommend the upgrade to lollipop at all.. You could try to install CM custom roms, they work better than stock.
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i was thinking about it,but i don't really understand how to unlock bootloader,i've read the guide but i'm still a bit scared,i dont want to hard brick it
if there is another way to unlock it,some kind of tool or something,that would be great

lfom said:
What I've done trying to minimize this:
1. Make UI faster speeding up animations
2. Avoid apps that run in the background all the time (background services that stay open always) like whatsapp and facebook
3. Modified Low Memory Kill limits a bit.
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Thank you for the help,if i decide to update it i will do this too