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[Q] ROM Manager: Recommended or not?

Hey guys,
Last night I installed ROM Manager and ClockworkMod Recovery on my Roger's Samsung Captivate and proceeded to watch some YouTube videos on how it works. It would appear that this app has made flashing extremely easy. Too easy one might say.
My question is: Is flashing via ROM Manager safe? Better? Or not, compared to the "old school" method?
Any feedback on ROM Manager or flashing in general for my i896 Captivate would be much appreciated!

TheShamsMan said:
Hey guys,
Last night I installed ROM Manager and ClockworkMod Recovery on my Roger's Samsung Captivate and proceeded to watch some YouTube videos on how it works. It would appear that this app has made flashing extremely easy. Too easy one might say.
My question is: Is flashing via ROM Manager safe? Better? Or not, compared to the "old school" method?
Any feedback on ROM Manager or flashing in general for my i896 Captivate would be much appreciated!
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I'd say Rom Manager is downright essential, but your mileage may vary. Besides the uber easy flashes there are a number of utility type things it does, not least of which is it gives us cappy users the ability to make nandroid backups.
As far as safe? As safe as any other method I guess. If you do your homework and the Rom's cook has his/her shizzle together (and most of them do.) you should be good using it to flash.
You'll find with some of the newer kernels that a modified CWM is actually replacing the stock 2e/3e recovery also, so it's not a terrible idea to get familiar with it a bit first.
Just some thoughts, hope they help.

Thanks for the reply dude!
Does ROM Manager automatically present users with the option to backup their existing ROM before proceeding with a flash?
I attempted to back up my current ROM with ROM Manager. It rebooted into a recovery menu, but non of them gave me the option to back up. Just wipe and reboot (can't remember the exact options). Is it possible the Captivate is no supported? How would I enable nandroid for Captivate?

TheShamsMan said:
Thanks for the reply dude!
Does ROM Manager automatically present users with the option to backup their existing ROM before proceeding with a flash?
I attempted to back up my current ROM with ROM Manager. It rebooted into a recovery menu, but non of them gave me the option to back up. Just wipe and reboot (can't remember the exact options). Is it possible the Captivate is no supported? How would I enable nandroid for Captivate?
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You open the app and tap flash clockwork recovery, select your phone, and it will proceed to reboot into recovery mode. At this time, you move down to reinstall packages, and it will then load clockwork recovery. It is from there that you can make your nandroid backup.

miztaken1312 said:
You open the app and tap flash clockwork recovery, select your phone, and it will proceed to reboot into recovery mode. At this time, you move down to reinstall packages, and it will then load clockwork recovery. It is from there that you can make your nandroid backup.
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What he said. It sometimes chokes on loading itself. It puts a file named update.zip on your sdcard. When you get to the blue menu (2e recovery) you select reinstall packages and it should load right up. Sometimes it will reboot and get stuck there again. Just do it again and it'll come up.
Yes, before you flash through rom manager it asks you if you want to do a backup. You'll find over time tho that you'll just go straight to clockworkmod and skip the whole rom manager thing. At least I did. And if you go to one of the kernels with the modified cwm in place of the recovery menu rebooting to recovery with rom manager will bring you to the wrong one. The modified has extra stuff like lag fixes and that sort of thing that the original cwm doesn't have.

Yeah. So far, I find it easier to just use ROM Manager to boot into Recovery and do everything else from there.
I like how it only presents you with ROMs available for your specific device. I look forward to the list populating for the Captivate. It's currently empty.

You open the app and tap flash clockwork recovery, select your phone, and it will proceed to reboot into recovery mode. At this time, you move down to reinstall packages, and it will then load clockwork recovery. It is from there that you can make your nandroid backup.
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the very first time i did this clicked reboot instead of reinstall packages. (i have fat thumbs) now every time i do 'tap flash clockwork recovery' instead of rebooting it just says 'successfully downloaded clockworkmod recovery'. how am i supposed to reinstall if i cant get to the option to do so?
im using a rooted captivate.

"Reinstall Packages" is in Android Recovery. When you perform the action "Flash Clockwork Recovery", you are downloading update.zip (which is Clockwork). "Reinstall packages" will install that update.zip and bring you into Clockwork.
So for you nawlage, now you can select "Reboot into Recovery" in ROM Manager, and your phone should boot into Android Recovery (blue text). Once there, reinstall packages (you'll probably have to do this twice), and you'll be brought to Clockwork Recovery (green text). If for WHATEVER reason "Reboot into Recovery" isn't working for you, use the 3-button combo to boot into Android Recovery.

thanks a load. i had just read this... posted by big99gt:
After these steps you won't really have to "hack" your phone lol. Root your phone and download Rom Manager from the Android market...then have it flash a recovery (the first selection at the top) choose your device when prompted. Now after that finishes select "reboot into recovery" and as the above post states you may need to select "reinstall packages" (I did). Once that goes through, you'll see your new custom recovery menu. DO A NANDROID BACKUP of your current Rom as soon as you can....then (as long as your current rom isn't messed up, if its stock your fine) from there on out you can play as much as you want with very little risk of bricking your phone. There are others who can explain it better but your stuck with me till they chime in lol. Its a very easy process and nearly foolproof.
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..and did just that. and it takes me to the clockwork recovery (green text). because of this i dont have to reinstall packages?
also, is the backup option in clockwork recovery (green text) equivalent to nandroid backup?

Once you are in Clockwork Recovery (green text), there is no more need to reinstall packages.
The "Backup Current ROM" in ROM Manager makes a nandroid backup.

very nice. two thanks for you. thank you.

[Q] Problem with Rom Manager Premium

I am having an issue with Rom Manager Premium. It won't let me backup my current ROM. I select the option and it just asks me for a filename then reboots the phone into recovery mode. I check my SD card for a backup file and nothing gets created... What gives?
I've tried googling my problem, but people say to select the "Flash Alternate Recovery" option, but it's greyed out for me. And I have the latest version of Clockwork Mod 2.5.1.2
I am running an ATT Captivate SGH-I897 with the leaked 2.2 froyo rom on the Rogers network in Canada.
Dev will also not respond to my emails.
Suggestions?

I would suggest to go into recovery then advanced I believe then choose backup. Then if you go back into rom manager you will see a backup. Rom manager is just doing the same function. I usually just use the backup or restore from recovery menu anyways and I have rom manager premium also.
Sent from MY Perception 10.1 on XDA App

I think I have this same issue with my ROM Manager now backing up. I don't have the premium version. But my phone just reboots into Recovery whenever I select "Backup Current ROM" from the ROM Manager. Then when I go back to ROM Manager and select "Manage and Restore Backups", nothing happens.
So the workaround is confusing for me.
Select "Reboot into Recovery" using the ROM Manager to go into recovery mode? I have no idea where this advanced menu is either.
I'm just a newbie to ROM Manager and trying to figure out where to see my backups of my ROM....if they even exist.

did you guys follow the directions and FLASH CLOCKWORK RECOVERY from within ROM manager?
then when it boots to regular recovery did you try REINSTALL PACKAGES?
that will put you into clockwork recovery and you can do a backup from there

Pirateghost said:
did you guys follow the directions and FLASH CLOCKWORK RECOVERY from within ROM manager?
then when it boots to regular recovery did you try REINSTALL PACKAGES?
that will put you into clockwork recovery and you can do a backup from there
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Yes I did that first step. There is a similar post with another fix and an update.zip file attached. I tried that but it froze up during the backup. I think I ran out of space on my internal SD card. I'm not sure how much space I need to do a backup but I only have about 1200MB left on my internal. I'm trying to clear things out. My external 4Gb card is nearly maxed as well. I really want to get a 32Gb external soon.

my clockwork backups are right around 750mb

Pirateghost said:
did you guys follow the directions and FLASH CLOCKWORK RECOVERY from within ROM manager?
then when it boots to regular recovery did you try REINSTALL PACKAGES?
that will put you into clockwork recovery and you can do a backup from there
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I found out what the problem was... the leaked 2.2 froyo rom I'm running uses the <3e> recovery which I guess is not compatable with ClockworkMod. When I try to reinstall packages it gives me a verification failed message.
So I guess I need to flash a different kernel, or find another workaround. What was the update.zip workaround mentioned before? Could you please post a link?

richuwo11 said:
I found out what the problem was... the leaked 2.2 froyo rom I'm running uses the <3e> recovery which I guess is not compatable with ClockworkMod. When I try to reinstall packages it gives me a verification failed message.
So I guess I need to flash a different kernel, or find another workaround. What was the update.zip workaround mentioned before? Could you please post a link?
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the update.zip will not work for you if you are on the leaked 2.2 with 3e recovery.
you will need to find a kernel that allows the unsigned zips or 2e recovery...they are in these forums, i will try to find a link

[Q] Nexus One Trackball doesn't work at all!?

How do i flash a rom? I see there is an AmonRa recovery for the Droid Eris that doesn't require a trackball....is there something similar for the Nexus One?!
My current rom doesn't let me add an account, the trackball doesn't work and the home button and search button are a little weird.
I need help! x/

solidus636 said:
How do i flash a rom? I see there is an AmonRa recovery for the Droid Eris that doesn't require a trackball....is there something similar for the Nexus One?!
My current rom doesn't let me add an account, the trackball doesn't work and the home button and search button are a little weird.
I need help! x/
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You'll need the trackball for Amon Ra and CWM too IIRC.

i figured it out!
download this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1291970
it installs an app that will install recovery and also allow you to create a script to run in recovery.
so if your trackball doesn't work, you don't have to select anything in recovery, just do everything from within android itself.
be sure to go through the options and allow SUPERWIPE to be included in the options. it's the best route because you can't wipe DATA 3 times with this method!

If you are already rooted, ROM Manager lets you boot directly into the recovery!
If you are running a modded ROM right now, the power off menu will have an option where you can boot in recovery too

chetanthaker said:
If you are already rooted, ROM Manager lets you boot directly into the recovery!
If you are running a modded ROM right now, the power off menu will have an option where you can boot in recovery too
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The problem is once you get into recovery, you need to use the trackball to select your items. His trackball isn't working.

ROM manager actually lets you do pretty much everything from within the booted OS. You can download and flash ROMs, change recoveries, make and restore from backups, etc.
I don't think you can do custom kernels (i.e. something other than what comes with whatever ROM you choose)...but actually, you might be able to. If you choose "Install ROM from SD card," it will let you choose any zip file. I don't know if it performs a check to see if the zip file is a rom or not, but if this menu entry merely tells CWM (the recovery) to install that zip file, you're good on ROMs too.

Can someone help me with the ClockworkMod Recovery Captivate (MTD)

Hi
I rooted my Samsung Captivate by using SuperOneClick, I am I trying to install CM7.
From the Marked I installed the Rom Manager, but it fails to flash ClockworkMod Recovery Samsung Captivate (MTD). It says "Samsung Captivate (MTD) does not have an official supported ClockworkMod Recovery yet. Have you installed a ClockworkMod based Recovery manually? Yes/No"
If I choose 'Yes' and select ClockworkMod 2.x it says "Rom Manager has been set up to use your existing recovery installation."
If I choose 'No' then the message is "Sorry! Until ClockworkMod recovery is availble, ROM Manager will not work with Samsung Captivate (MTD).
I tried to install CM7 from SD Card, it just return the the Samsung reboot menu (3e). And it doesn't have an option to allow me to select "Install zip from sdcard"
HELP Please

Did you even try reading their wiki? Don't use ROM manager.... Ever.... Useless on our SGS devices.....

prbassplayer said:
Did you even try reading their wiki? Don't use ROM manager.... Ever.... Useless on our SGS devices.....
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I follow this link to install CM7:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=978150
Can you show me the page said "Don't use ROM Manager"? so what software I should use to flash my phone?
I am new to this. Please help. Thanks

Ugh bad instruction from devs.... Just flash a kernel with CWM (Boog's, Corn or Samurai) jump on recovery and flash. Before you start make sure 1) your button combos work (if they don't or you want to get GB bootloaders) 2) have ALL the .zips that you will use in your phone before hand. If you flash one of the kernels I mentioned and you are on the wrong version of android it will NOT bootup, but will boot in Recovery (cwm). Once in CWM flash away as on instruction (if you wan't to Nandroid then you need to flash the correct rom/kernel before had)

Clockworkmod Recovery Help

Hi Forum
I have a 4 year old Samsung Galaxy S Plus. I have a problem with the phone physically - meaning that the volume buttons are not working. I want to install ClockWorkMod Recovery Touch but cannot flash it as I cannot move in my recovery down and up. Is there anyway that I can install ClockWorkMod Recovery without flashing it ? Or better yet... how can I root this phone without flashing ? I have a zip file and that zip file once flashed with give me root access, but once again cannot do it as the volume keys are not working on my sammie. Any ideas ??

You can try rooting with this app, just install and in one click you will have root http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/framaroot/root-framaroot-one-click-apk-to-root-t2130276 and if that doesn't work try http://www.oneclickroot.com/phone/samsung-galaxy-s-plus/ regarding getting into recovery mode you could install a rom that would boot into recovery mode from the phones operating system, all CyanogenMod roms do this ( probably most custom roms do) if you hold power button you get the power menu options then just choose to boot to recovery
EDIT: actually if you're not already on a custom rom then you can't use the power menu options, ok so try rooting then installing an app that would let you boot to recovery. Something like this https://play.google.com/store/apps/...um=organic&utm_term=android+power+menu+widget

pryerlee said:
You can try rooting with this app, just install and in one click you will have root http://forum.xda-developers.com/apps/framaroot/root-framaroot-one-click-apk-to-root-t2130276 and if that doesn't work try http://www.oneclickroot.com/phone/samsung-galaxy-s-plus/ regarding getting into recovery mode you could install a rom that would boot into recovery mode from the phones operating system, all CyanogenMod roms do this ( probably most custom roms do) if you hold power button you get the power menu options then just choose to boot to recovery
EDIT: actually if you're not already on a custom rom then you can't use the power menu options, ok so try rooting then installing an app that would let you boot to recovery. Something like this https://play.google.com/store/apps/...um=organic&utm_term=android+power+menu+widget
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Thanks for info... except that I can boot into recovery, except that I cannot select anything because my volume buttons don't work, so I cannot move up or down in order to select an option. I need a TOUCH RECOVERY in order to select any option not using my volume buttons. I have this in my HTC Sensation using Touch Clockworkmod Recovery and I am not using any of my volume buttons. Is there any way I can get that touch recovery and install it without flashing it ?

Oh i see sorry i miss understood you, ok so install this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2334554 then flash the touch recovery version here http://d-h.st/QEP thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1843825
EDIT: you'll need to root it first so try this http://www.oneclickroot.com/phone/samsung-galaxy-s-plus/ and if that doesn't work then try "Framaroot" link in my previous post,

You can use the ROM Manager app instead of going to recovery. You can do everything that's in the recovery from the app.