I'm on the newest OTA of 5.1.1, and I want to root and don't really care about KNOX anymore. I just want to do so without wiping my phone or losing any data; custom ROMs are out of the question.
PignPong and Chainfire don't work for 5.1.1, the non-KNOX tripping solution breaks vital features, so I'm wondering if there is another way.
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Will this ever happen?
I just got my new...used note 4. I have sim unlocked it. I'd like to wait a little while before rooting it to see if anyone creates a new root method which doesn't trip knox. I hate that I cant use titanim, or LMT, or even root explorer.
Any opinions... Should I just go and trip the Knox.. I do not need KNOX, but I read something in another post which said if knox is tripped then we might not be able to flash updated ROMS???
THe other reason for not tripping knox would be for resale value.
ilmar72 said:
Will this ever happen?
I just got my new...used note 4. I have sim unlocked it. I'd like to wait a little while before rooting it to see if anyone creates a new root method which doesn't trip knox. I hate that I cant use titanim, or LMT, or even root explorer.
Any opinions... Should I just go and trip the Knox.. I do not need KNOX, but I read something in another post which said if knox is tripped then we might not be able to flash updated ROMS???
THe other reason for not tripping knox would be for resale value.
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If you're questioning whether you should root or not, then you shouldn't root. I don't regret tripping knox, I'm enjoying the phone much more now.
The question you should be asking yourself is. Is there anything I want that I can't do without a root?
By the time a method without tripping knox comes out (if ever), that resell value would have dropped substantially.
Hey where can I download your rom
Wrong section buddy
Well I just figured out tonight that LMT does work in this phone without root. At least the pie wheel does. I haven't tried any gestures yet.
So this makes me happy
Edit: I see this is nothing new. Lmt says root is needed for gestures and isas
theeze said:
If you're questioning whether you should root or not, then you shouldn't root. I don't regret tripping knox, I'm enjoying the phone much more now.
The question you should be asking yourself is. Is there anything I want that I can't do without a root?
By the time a method without tripping knox comes out (if ever), that resell value would have dropped substantially.
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Good point. But is it true that we won't be able to flash new radios?
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Hawke84 said:
Lots of work went I to finding a solution on S4 when knox first came out including by chainfire with no luck. Also since october people have been trying to root note 4 without tripping knox with no luck.
There is no difference in the system of tripped and not tripped. Soon as anything unsigned or insecure is flashed the bootloader burns the efuse
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As you can see my idea was a bust but here is the original op
Correct me if I am wrong here, the reason knox is being tripped by cf auto root is because of the way it acquirers root not because it is rooted. With that in mind I would Like to make a tar ball with a pre rooted system.img with knox already disabled. To make sure it will have the best possibility to not trip knox and not cause a soft brick I want to use a system dump from a running phone that has only been rooted and knox disabled. I am pretty sure this has worked on every galaxy phone before the s6 and the only reason you don't hear more about it recently is because of the success of towelroot. I am getting this phone on the 1st (so excited) and would like root but want to try samsung pay more.
If you are willing to help I need the following:
Be on a 100% stock samsung bloated system with root (absolutely no tweaked systems I need pure stock with root)
Install supersu into /system (supersu settings)
Have supersu disable knox (If you know this by itself will trip knox please tell me)
Make a system.img dump with adb or terminal emulator and upload it for me (as long as you do not dump the data partition no personal data will be dumped)
At this point I will make the tarball and upload it and have the person who made the system dump flash the tarball. If he/she boots up fine I will the need a volunteer who has not rooted and verified that knox has not been tripped on his/her phone to flash it and see if knox still has its warranty. Obviously the volunteer should go into this not caring if knox gets tripped.
To make things completely clear I need the following:
Somebody who knows how to dump with adb/terminal emulator and already rooted
Somebody without a tripped knox warranty who doesn't care if it gets tripped
Post a replay if you want to supply the system.img so others know not to.
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Hey guys, I'm looking to purchase a Tab S 8.4. I was reading that some time ago it was possible to root without tripping Knox. If my new Tab S comes with an old firmware that is rootable while keeping Knox at 0x0, is it possible to upgrade to Lollipop while keeping root and Knox at 0x0? I'm getting this tablet for multitasking, so I want root to enable multi window for all apps, among other things. Thanks for any help!
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Hey guys, I'm looking to purchase a Tab S 8.4. I was reading that some time ago it was possible to root without tripping Knox. If my new Tab S comes with an old firmware that is rootable while keeping Knox at 0x0, is it possible to upgrade to Lollipop while keeping root and Knox at 0x0? I'm getting this tablet for multitasking, so I want root to enable multi window for all apps, among other things. Thanks for any help!
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as long as you use the official lollipop update from samsung you will not trip knox. but if you root by any method that will trip knox counter.
ragnarokx said:
Hey guys, I'm looking to purchase a Tab S 8.4. I was reading that some time ago it was possible to root without tripping Knox. If my new Tab S comes with an old firmware that is rootable while keeping Knox at 0x0, is it possible to upgrade to Lollipop while keeping root and Knox at 0x0? I'm getting this tablet for multitasking, so I want root to enable multi window for all apps, among other things. Thanks for any help!
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The tab s has never been rooted without tripping Knox. Even if it's on and old firmware, towelroot is still patched. Either way your going to have to trip Knox in order to gain root.
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DUHAsianSKILLZ said:
The tab s has never been rooted without tripping Knox. Even if it's on and old firmware, towelroot is still patched. Either way your going to have to trip Knox in order to gain root.
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Oops, looks like I was looking at a thread for the Pro 8.4, not the S 8.4: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2786800
My main concern was limited Multi Window functionality without root. But I've read about some apps that let you add to Multi Window without root. Anyone have experience with it?
Yes, I'm using the app you linked to. It depends on which app you would like to make multi window compatible. The bad thing is, that this app itself must be modified by MW-Pen App Enabler and you install a modified copy of that app after the modification process. It (by far) does not work with all apps, but with some (e.g. Skype) I had success.
Ok, so i googled a bit and do see that some people have had issues trying this, but most of the examples i was reading were on devices from carriers with locked bootloaders. Since the tmo version has an unloacked BL was wondering if anyone has tried this or not?
I was thinking of simply using flashify or twrp manager to install recovery from within my currently rooted (superuser) rom. Most people that have tried using locked bootloaders endup with a soft brick from what i have seen. Just not sure how much the unlocked bootloader would help us in this situation.
I know i can just use CF auto root but was trying to do it without tripping knox really. However, i have never had issues with any warranty through tmobile (rooted, tripped knox, whatever) and with the announcement of android pay, i am way less interested in samsung pay so tripped knox wouldnt be the end of the world... but still curious
EDIT: So apparently chainfire just released something called flashfire that appears it can do exactly what i am looking for. Anyone else looking for the same should check it out...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/general/paid-software/flashfire-t3075433
So, this will not trip knox? I'm currently stock waiting for the 5.1 update to see if it's worth it to keep stock or root my phone. I just want to root it so bad because I could hypothetically get double battery life with the tweaks I would do. I'm interested in Samsung Pay (sorta) but if Google Wallet/Android Pay will have the same functions, then IDC.
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So, this will not trip knox? I'm currently stock waiting for the 5.1 update to see if it's worth it to keep stock or root my phone. I just want to root it so bad because I could hypothetically get double battery life with the tweaks I would do. I'm interested in Samsung Pay (sorta) but if Google Wallet/Android Pay will have the same functions, then IDC.
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If you install recovery no matter what method it will trip. For Roms, Flashfire won't trip as long as you don't flash boot.img aka kernel. You need to remove it before flashing
Been a while, but wondering if there is any threads out there to manually update beyond OE2 without loosing root and tripping Knox. Last time i recall there was a way to change part of the OS but not the kernel to 5.11 but I'm more interested in 6.x and if anyone has figured it out.