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I just upgraded from a 8125 (wizard) to a tilt from at&t. I had my wizard replaced through warranty with a tilt in the last month of my 8125 warranty, don't ask me how... The lady on the phone was quite helpful and definitely went above and beyond to give me that phone for free. I have been flipping through the kaisers forums for a couple of days now and Ive learned a few things like the driver problem and some other limitations/features available software and the likes.
What I'm curious is what would you people suggest I do as a new user? Skip the at&t extended rom? What software I should load onto it? What software I should remove? I am aware of the registry tweaker, but theres many options. What registry entries are good for an average user to use? What cabs or patches should I apply to my phone to get it in optimal order? Any other things that I currently am not thinking of or not aware of?
I do not think I wish to upgrade the rom or any of that sort. I am conscious of battery life and have learned that most roms make battery life suffer/the risk of flashing is not worth the upgrade for me since I will be out of warranty soon. Should I be convinced to flash? I have learned about a wm6.1 though. Is this something already on my phone or is this something at&t will be offering as an update already/in the future?
I have looked at the wiki and scanned through a lot of pages but I haven't seen anything that would be helpful for new users. This would be a good thread to have stickied.
How on Earth is there nothing helpful for a new user on this site? This thread is a redundant thread.. lol
but here.
Anything on here that floats your boat.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332438&highlight=suggest+software
Here is what was said when another person pretty much asked the same thing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380887&highlight=suggest+software
same thing
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=377257&highlight=suggest+software
A nice conversation about gps and the kaiser
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=382240
You might have some instant messaging questions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1150324
This forum might be useful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=419
man I didn't even get a half a percent of the usefulness linked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
and where the hell did you get the idea that a cooked rom makes battery life worse???
I should have been more clear in what I meant. Instead of there not being information, there is too much information and assumes a certain level of knowledge already. To expect somebody to read through all the pages in the multiple forum sections just to get up and running is unfair. At count, I am at page 25 on the general discussion but I still know barely anything relative to how much info is out there.
To address the software question, most software is simply just listed, nary a description or information about it or suggestions on how useful it is. I would like to try software but I don't want to have to install 50 things just to find 5 that I like, not to mention the residual mess of a crummy uninstall. Same goes with cabs, patches and tweaks. For somebody who is quite familiar with the device, issues and history its quite easy to navigate around the knowledge but for somebody who doesn't know exactly what they are looking for it can be quite cumbersome.
Click here to see some awesome pictures of the AT&T Tilt in motion.
Thanks for that but I'm not a moron, I didn't click it. Plus no need to be a jerk.
To address the battery life issue, in several threads reads ive read, people have stated horrible battery life with the kaiser such as about half a day or less and have stated they have are currently using a cooked rom. I know my deductive reasoning is slightly flawed but I hardly believe that the factory rom would yeild that bad of battery life (I know its quite bad but not that much). Secondly, I've been using the wizard forum for quite some time now and most of the cooked roms make battery life worse for that device. One would only expect the issue to be somewhat similar.
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Thanks for that but I'm not a moron, I didn't click it. Plus no need to be a jerk.
To address the battery life issue, in several threads reads ive read, people have stated horrible battery life with the kaiser such as about half a day or less and have stated they have are currently using a cooked rom. I know my deductive reasoning is slightly flawed but I hardly believe that the factory rom would yeild that bad of battery life (I know its quite bad but not that much). Secondly, I've been using the wizard forum for quite some time now and most of the cooked roms make battery life worse for that device. One would only expect the issue to be somewhat similar.
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then u should just try out the roms and make that conclusion urself in regards to battery life
Welcome Matthew -
I am going to try and give you an analogy - most people purchase a car and it works - they like the car - they get some extras like a CD player - or Satellite radio etc. When their car has a problem they take it to the dealer. He fixes it and give it back to them STOCK.
Some other people have to hot rod their cars - soup them up so to speak.
You have come to the ultimate "soup up" shop, and dropped in and said that it should not be this difficult to own a car and that you do not know enough to do this.
There is great news for you - your phone will work just fine the way that you got it. It is designed by AT&T to work EXACTLY the way that you got it. No more no less.
Your battery life should be just fine. (although some have had problems - but then you take it back to AT&T and they FIX it).
At this point - if you wish to "soup" your phone - dig in and start reading. You will be surprised at how easy it is to soup your phone, and how happy you can be with it. BUT - like going to a foreign country and trying to talk to them in English you are going to tick people off here. You need to TRY and work with them - try a little soup speak and you will find it goes a long way.
Bill
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Thanks for that but I'm not a moron, I didn't click it. Plus no need to be a jerk.
To address the battery life issue, in several threads reads ive read, people have stated horrible battery life with the kaiser such as about half a day or less and have stated they have are currently using a cooked rom. I know my deductive reasoning is slightly flawed but I hardly believe that the factory rom would yeild that bad of battery life (I know its quite bad but not that much). Secondly, I've been using the wizard forum for quite some time now and most of the cooked roms make battery life worse for that device. One would only expect the issue to be somewhat similar.
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I don't want to have to install 50 things just to find 5 that I like
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How can we tell you what you like?
For somebody who is quite familiar with the device, issues and history its quite easy to navigate around the knowledge but for somebody who doesn't know exactly what they are looking for it can be quite cumbersome.
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How do you think most of us learned what and how? Not everyones device acts the same.
Yeah pretty much what you need to do is search for things you might want and then go from there. If you want a video program that search for video, etc etc.
And actually the rom I'm using now gets way better battery life then the 3 I had before it.
I am new to posting here, and unfortunately can not yet post in the Dev section, so I have to ask this question here:
I have a US TMo Tab, and after disappointing experience with the stock ROM, began flashing custom ROMs from OC 1.4 to Overcome 1.6, and have had nothing but great experience with all of them (and donated more than once to the coffee funds of the devs). They were faster and smoother by far than the stock TMo.
When 2.0.0 came out, I started with the beta installation, and have followed the instructions meticulously as a good noob should do (I have enough experience in IT to know what I don't know and to RTFM).
These are not in the FAQs or answered in the Dev Boards, so here are my questions/issues to report:
I have had a radical drop in battery life - 9 hrs. average with 1.6, 4-5 hrs. now, and no change or addition of apps to speak of. I am holding out as others are now reporting this to see whether it can be fixed before backing out to the earlier version, because of the significant improvement in the Browser and some of the other GB enhancements (kick me, I like Daily Briefing now!).
The biggest problem I having is that since the GB upgrade, the Roto Modem Switcher (enriched his coffee fund as well as Alterbridge and Darkpal's) now goes through the switch, but the script errors out and the screen runs into a series of red lines, I think, when CWM/reboot is invoked, so each time I run this I have to manually reboot the unit. I have seen several posts on this but no concrete answers and I am wondering if anyone can shed any light on what I might be able to try to restore this please.
Many thanks in advance for any help.
Hello,
Sorry I can't be of help, but just want to let you know something.
Don't post your questions in dev section, the response can be pretty offensive.
The dev section is for developers only, so you can reply to overcome 2.0 thread if you have a question or an overcome problem reporting thread if they have one. Posting a question there ... is just inviting flame, happened a lot to xda newbies(myself included).
As far is know about overcome, the current 2.0 gold still has some bugs and the most stable one is still the old 1.6.4. I am still waiting for the stable version of 2.0.
@jpnaggy -
Thanks for the sage advice. I see a lot of that there, and some of it is sound flaming - folks don't follow all the instrux and ask questions that have been answered, sometimes just can't read the thread.
It seems Alterbridge and his devs are a little more tolerant than most, and they really do try to help people out, moreover, they encourage feedback so long as it is constructive because it drives improvements to future releases.
That said, I will keep my fingers crossed that someone can assist here, and really do thank you for the warning. I won't post anything unless it is concise and precise, and unless I have scoured the prior posts in vain for an answer.
Cheers!
are you sure u want to ask a question here in GENERAL section and not in Q|A section ?
Manual rebooting is the new procedure.
Try googling "battery drain galaxy tab" and see where that takes you.
Turn off auto syncing of everything for a day and see what that does. Check your display settings - brightness, color density .
Thanks all!
My bad for posting in the wrong area - thanks @k0sh for the well-deserved dunning. Guess they don't call us noobs for nothing!
@ranger - have googled battery drain for two days straight, and am reading all I can on this.
The problem most definitely started after the last flash - I figured it was a good idea to reset the battery stats since I had done so good on Alter's 1.6 and realize now I should probably have left it alone.
I suspect that had I done so, it would have remained good or gotten better, and it is possible that this explains to some degree why there is such a disparity in battery life others are reporting.
I will patiently await the next update, and promise to post in the right place from now on. Thanks again all for your assitance!
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My bad for posting in the wrong area - thanks @k0sh for the well-deserved dunning. Guess they don't call us noobs for nothing!
@ranger - have googled battery drain for two days straight, and am reading all I can on this.
The problem most definitely started after the last flash - I figured it was a good idea to reset the battery stats since I had done so good on Alter's 1.6 and realize now I should probably have left it alone.
I suspect that had I done so, it would have remained good or gotten better, and it is possible that this explains to some degree why there is such a disparity in battery life others are reporting.
I will patiently await the next update, and promise to post in the right place from now on. Thanks again all for your assitance!
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What i like on you that you understand and accept tye fact that you are not gonna post any thread on the wrong section , i was like u also , lmao.
About the battery could u reverse back to froyo then to gingerbread then to beta2 and then update to Rc1 and then to gold . And see how it will work
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k0sh - U R A Genius! (U 2 Rangercaptain!)
Okay!
Thanks gentlemen, to you both. After an arduous weekend of flashing and re-flashing I think I may be getting better at this (of course, I am not taking off the training wheels - I follow the Overcome Guide line by line each time because it is way too easy to make a mistake).
First - I flashed back to 1.6 (because I can't stomach putting stock T-Mo back on my Tab no matter what!) - and that went fine. Then I upped to GB using the instrux in Gold's upgrade, then I reflashed current Gold (oh, where is Hermes already? I know, I read the State of the Union, and all the comments on your Dev thread, and I am patiently waiting for more OC Perfection!). But this time, I did one more thing - I took a look at the bloat that was all over my Internal and External SD cards, carefully, just to make sure I wasn't dragging something bad back in. The directory structure on my external SD was SWISS CHEESE - directories nested under one another (e.g. \titanium bu\titanium bu, data\data, etc.).
Gotta think my quick fingers got the better of my slow brain, but since this was such a mess, and I know there is nothing on the internal SD after a full wipe (what, three times with all the re-flashed ROMs) and the Dalvik wipe to boot, I decided to use a Market Backup, just to keep a list somewhere of all my installed Apps (currentl number 247). And this time, I installed them all one by one, rather than restore them from TB.
And this time, no lag, and VERY little noticeable battery drain (@rangercaptain - thank you again!).
@k0sh - You are brilliant! Your suggestion got me thinking this had to be a self-inflicted problem and you were spot on!
So now that you spent all this time helping out a Noob, I am anxiously waiting for the next iteration of Overcome, and this baby is flying right now! Woo hoo! Thanks to you both!
But, where should I start?
Is it really necessery to flash a custom ROM, or is this phone snappy enough with Sense (but I'll probably use GoLauncher or LauncherPro, I only use 1 homescreen...)?
Which tweaks are really necessery to make the phone's battery survive for more than 24 hours, when texting pretty much?
Perhaps the phone's battery survives even though I text a lot (between 100-500 texts/day, depending on how bored I am)?
How's the vibrator in this phone, can I have it in silent mode and have it in my pocket and actually notice when I get a text?
My current phone's vibrator is pretty crappy.
I've been browsing this forum for some time now but haven't found anything that answers my questions... I come from an Acer Liquid A1, without CM7 or MIUI that phone is probably one of the worst phones ever done. But, I sure hope this community is just as active as the one the Liquid had, and still have
(lol, "is this a question?" eh, it's many questions... )
oh, and one more thing; is this device brickable? or can you always reset it to default, like with the liquid? if something f...s up you can always boot into bootloader and reflash a *.bin
Help a newbie to get started, and flashing things and stuff is nothing new. Only the way to root it is new for me... :/
Regards,
Me
(hopefully I haven't missed a thread that answers all my questions, but of what I've found I haven't found anything that actually helps me. if I've missed it, just link to it and remove this thread )
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But, where should I start?
Is it really necessery to flash a custom ROM, or is this phone snappy enough with Sense (but I'll probably use GoLauncher or LauncherPro, I only use 1 homescreen...)?
Which tweaks are really necessery to make the phone's battery survive for more than 24 hours, when texting pretty much?
Perhaps the phone's battery survives even though I text a lot (between 100-500 texts/day, depending on how bored I am)?
How's the vibrator in this phone, can I have it in silent mode and have it in my pocket and actually notice when I get a text?
My current phone's vibrator is pretty crappy.
I've been browsing this forum for some time now but haven't found anything that answers my questions... I come from an Acer Liquid A1, without CM7 or MIUI that phone is probably one of the worst phones ever done. But, I sure hope this community is just as active as the one the Liquid had, and still have
(lol, "is this a question?" eh, it's many questions... )
oh, and one more thing; is this device brickable? or can you always reset it to default, like with the liquid? if something f...s up you can always boot into bootloader and reflash a *.bin
Help a newbie to get started, and flashing things and stuff is nothing new. Only the way to root it is new for me... :/
Regards,
Me
(hopefully I haven't missed a thread that answers all my questions, but of what I've found I haven't found anything that actually helps me. if I've missed it, just link to it and remove this thread )
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I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
You should easily get 24 + hours if all you do is text mainly. Just remember to turn data off. It will help make your battery last longer.
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sdxda said:
I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
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Well, my current phone dies pretty quickly when texting a lot. Today it went from 60% down to 5%, and I woke for 11hours ago and have been texting ppl since then.
And I'm buying a new phone since my 4 touch-buttons on this one is getting really weird, they only work sometimes and yesterday they all died so I was stuck in a conversation and had to reboot to get out of it.
And sending texts and stuff is what I mainly do, of course I browse the Internet, play games and everything. During school and such I only text people, and a lot. So I pretty much needs the phone to make more than 24hours without charging it, even though I text a lot and listen to music.
@NardVa;
Won't be a problem. Already thought of that
Thanks for the replies
sdxda said:
I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
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I was going to suggest flashing, the stock rom is garbage for battery life. Android Revolution HD seems to be one of the more popular choices, but of course Cyanogen Mod is there if you decide the Sense UI isn't your thing
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I was going to suggest flashing, the stock rom is garbage for battery life. Android Revolution HD seems to be one of the more popular choices, but of course Cyanogen Mod is there if you decide the Sense UI isn't your thing
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I've made up my mind now, I'll use the official GB ROM for a couple of days/weeks/months (basically untill I'm tired of Sense 2.1) and then flash a Sense 3.0 ROM and hopefully I can understand which one of all those RUU's that's made for Europe too when I'm bored of Sense 2.1
You don't happen to know how it is with bricking this phone? Can you always reset it to stock, or can you actually brick it for real so it's 100% unusable?
Hello everyone,
It's nice to have a reason to be back in xda.
So recently I traded my iphone 4s for an LG Thrill + $150. So naturally, I made out of the deal. Anyway, upon receiving the phone, I noticed Superuser in the app drawer. Now I have never rooted an android before, so I would very much appreciate if someone could walk me through on how to do it, or link me to a thread that may explain it. The reason I am making my own thread about this is because Id also like a few questions answered if possible.
First of all, I want to unroot because I'm not sure if the previous owner installed any kind of tracking software on the phone, unlikely, but you never know. Also because I figure I will have to do it to update to ICS when it gets released for the Thrill. So I guess one of my questions are how do I tell what kind of stuff is installed on my phone from a rooted perspective. I noticed that for one unroot you need to have cwm installed, and i don't know how to go about to see if it is. I don't see it in the app drawer, so I'm not sure. Like I said, Ive never owned a rooted android before, only my jailbroken iphones.
Another question I had is that when I signed into my android email (I previously owned a motorola Xoom) it released an arsenal of unwanted emails and contacts into my phones contacts, I'm going to imagine there is a setting in the settings to untoggle this, and I will try to hunt it down, but if anyone could give me a heads up on where it is, thatd be ridiculously awesome.
Then another thing id like help with, is since im late in the game with the Thrill, maybe you could post any interesting threads youd think a newbie would like to see. I will spend my own time looking over xda (so please don't come in here and hate on me and tell me to look for it myself) I just figured you kind people that are in here a couple times a week would already know of some great stuff I could look at. It does get time consuming reading through the Troll posts and whatnot.
Anywho, Thanks for your time and I'm looking forward to talking to you all in the coming days!
If anyone could help me, I have never been rooted like stated, and I'm just trying to gushed what I should do. I found out he used super one click method to root. And I see superuser in the apparently drawer, but I don't see clockwork recovery at all (and I don't even know what that is/does, but I know its important.) If anyone could just start a dialogue with me to help me get some of this figured out I'd be very appreciative. I just don't want to ultimately brick my phone.
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I would check to see if clockwork mod recovery is installed first. If it is, then just install a different rom and you will know that any tracking stuff the previous user may have installed is gone.
To check for clockwork recovery, power your phone down completely. Hold the volume down button and the 3d button down, then press the power button until the phone vibrates and starts booting. If the phone boots normally, you don't have clockwork recovery. If you do have clockwork recovery, then install a custom rom from the development section and you're on your way. I like thriller and doomed froyo.
Enjoy!
-q
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Yes! I booted into an android recovery system, so I'm taking that I do have certain thanks, now I will have to look into the Roms.
Two side questions though, I will have to unroot before ICS right?
And when I turned off and booted like you said, once I got into the recovery attempt I just rebooted again, my battery was at 70 percent before the initial reboot and somhow now displaying it at 26 percent. Any ideas on that? I'm going to reset again to see if it drags back up. I am confused
EDIT: After turning it off on the battery is still reading in the twenty percent. I know for a fact that it should be up in the sixty seventy range. Does loading into recovery really destroy your battery like that? I had already done a full life cycle on the battery so I can't imagine that the batteries the issue
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So I just removed then replaced the battery and now its reading at 35 percent. Is this normal?
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Hey... haven't been checking this forum for a few days. It sounds like your battery stats are hosed. In cwr there is an option to wipe battery stats. That should do the trick.
You do not need to un-root in order to install a custom rom. The only thing to watch out for is what baseband the rom was developed for. The thrill ships with "froyo", Google's android 2.2 operating system and that's the only OS version that the baseband will function with. It is possible to flash the baseband from another country where "gingerbread" (2.3) has been released. Unfortunately this means that you may lose quite a bit of functionality on your phone. This is because the frequencies used in the country where that baseband was used are different. You are pretty much guaranteed to lose 4g and might get horrible signal on 3g.
Personally I will be waiting for at&t to roll out gingerbread for the thrill before I go down that path. You can still flash froyo based roms like Thriller and Doomed Froyo. Look for them in the "android development" subforum here.
Good luck!
-q
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It may be that the stats are shot, or it may be a glitch that (I think) the Thrill has. I remember reading at one point that simply turning the phone on and off would drain 10-20% of its battery, and mine has seemed to do the few times that I actually watched it... It's really annoying when you just want to restart the phone to apply something and then have to live with a smaller battery life for the rest of the day.
Thanks guys, I appreciate the input, and I will check that out in clockwork recovery.
I was worried about unrooting to install ics when it comes out, but I figure that may be a year or so :rolls eyes: but i think I found the forum for unrooting in the development section.
Also thanks for the warning on the baseband, I'm really glad I haven't gotten around to putting a rom on my thrill because I was looking at a gb one. You just saved my phone!
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I realise this wont answer your question but it might help you in a general since. I was in your position few months ago. I did play with roms some. I found what worked for me was ordering a higher capacity battery (link found in the accessory section), and the Doomed Froyo rom. Gave me the control I was used to from jailbreak ios and the extra battery life helps. Do a few searches for essential root apps before you play with roms. You need basics like root file explorer and titanium backing and so on. Enjoy your thrill
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Hello to all who know much more about Android ROMs than I.
I bought myself a second hand HTC One (Telstra, Australia) and believed that the best thing to do was to get a clean version of Android onto it ASAP. In that endeavor, I downloaded the CyanogenMod 1 click installer and successfully installed CyanogenMod on the device.
Unfortunately it's now a slow, buggy, battery draining mess. After dealing with it for a while and realising I was getting more and more issues more frequently (WiFi access is buggy at best and often blocks all data, camera is incredibly slow, random reboots, battery life is despicable, among other issues), I spent several days trawling XDA trying to return my device to some version of Android released by HTC themselves, without success. This was at least 2 months ago, and I ended up giving up and dealing with it.
I can't deal with it anymore, and need help. As stated I've trawled the forums and tried numerous means of returning the device to some version of stock but nothing worked as described in the threads. I'm wondering if anyone would be willing to either purchase the device for cheap, or return it to stock for a price? I looked at the Marketplace option but it directs me to swappa.com which doesn't have an Australian section.
I have certainly learned my lesson that this kind of modding is not for me, and I won't be going there in future. Hoping someone can help.
Thanks in advance, Jamieson.
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Hello to all who know much more about Android ROMs than I.
I bought myself a second hand HTC One (Telstra, Australia) and believed that the best thing to do was to get a clean version of Android onto it ASAP. In that endeavor, I downloaded the CyanogenMod 1 click installer and successfully installed CyanogenMod on the device.
Unfortunately it's now a slow, buggy, battery draining mess. After dealing with it for a while and realising I was getting more and more issues more frequently (WiFi access is buggy at best and often blocks all data, camera is incredibly slow, random reboots, battery life is despicable, among other issues), I spent several days trawling XDA trying to return my device to some version of Android released by HTC themselves, without success. This was at least 2 months ago, and I ended up giving up and dealing with it.
I can't deal with it anymore, and need help. As stated I've trawled the forums and tried numerous means of returning the device to some version of stock but nothing worked as described in the threads. I'm wondering if anyone would be willing to either purchase the device for cheap, or return it to stock for a price? I looked at the Marketplace option but it directs me to swappa.com which doesn't have an Australian section.
I have certainly learned my lesson that this kind of modding is not for me, and I won't be going there in future. Hoping someone can help.
Thanks in advance, Jamieson.
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Well if you have read many threads on here you would have noticed the first question ask is can you post the results from fastboot getvar all.
without that their is no way anyone here can help you. When you post the information please remove the Serial no and IMEI from the results .. we don't need those.