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Hello to all,
I have two problems that are almost making me go back to stock 4.3 ROM
The first is related to the battery, the android system appears first with 25% + battery drain, and in most cases equal to or greater than the battery consumption of the screen! This makes my battery does not pass a day, and the stock I went much further (without STAMINA MODE).
The second issue is regarding the performance measured by AnTuTu. I know that does not mean much, but in the STOCK I get 25.5k and I read out there that people also manages the same in CM11 LBL (the MrSteve555 and also bagyusz), I do not understand why I can here the maximum 22.5K .
Independent of ROM I have put the same results. Tested in all versions of MrSteve555 and in the last two of bagyusz. Also tested in the PAC-man RC-1 neXus PRIME, same result and battery consumption.
In all ROMs I wipe system, data, cache, dalvik cache.
Does anyone have any idea how to solve this? I am discouraged because I love the CM11.
Ps: I use .207 kernel and I've tried with .205 also, same result. (I have LBL)
Damn what is that screenshot supposed to show?? 30 minutes off charge and it is at 99%!!! It's obvious that the screen consumption will be minimum, it was on for a minute or so probably... I know that usually android system drain is higher in cm than stock but you should compare your battery stats at the end of the day...
Please reset the counter by tapping on the trash icon on the activity bar. Then please post a screenshot after hours of usage. This will enable other people to properly interpret your battery stats.
Some tips though, you will most likely encounter a slight battery drain while using custom ROMs. This is due to the fact that stock ROM and custom ROM works differently. You might actually having a normal drain than a supposedly "bad" one.
By the end of the day will be the same... Anyway I will post later.
I attached new images for better understanding.
Does anyone have any idea?
Firstly, Antutu scores mean sh*t...
In the past I've had allot of ROMs with very bad Antutu scores which performed much better in terms of speed and general user experience than a standard ROM with higher Antutu score.
Furthermore, install better battery stats or any other wakelock detector app to see what is draining your battery. The pictures you are showing us now don't help at all.
I've exactly the same problem, android consumes always more than 25% battery too...
Silver Wx said:
I've exactly the same problem, android consumes always more than 25% battery too...
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As I mentioned above, you need to identify what is causing the wakelocks first. Untill then there's absolutely no solution that can be presented to both of you.
By pointed by Gamm86, it might be due to wakelocks. Once the wakelocks are found, you may use Greenify to hibernate that rogue app. When the app is selected within Greenify, you will find it easier to see the wakeup path and cut it off through Greenify.
Wakelock Detector
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TechnoSparks said:
By pointed by Gamm86, it might be due to wakelocks. Once the wakelocks are found, you may use Greenify to hibernate that rogue app. When the app is selected within Greenify, you will find it easier to see the wakeup path and cut it off through Greenify.
Wakelock Detector
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It's not always apps themselves that cause wakelocks.
Background services related to phone or app settings are usually the culprits, meaning greenify won't resolve all wakelocks.
Gamm86 said:
It's not always apps themselves that cause wakelocks.
Services related to phone or app settings are usually the culprits, meaning greenify won't resolve all wakelocks.
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yes I understand. Hmm i believe you are more experienced in this matter. Would you tell me how to stop those wakelocks that caused from other services? I would really appreciate that, cause I find many people solve this problem but they never did expose where they learn from or the methods they use. and yea, I've googled but I got nothing
TechnoSparks said:
yes I understand. Hmm i believe you are more experienced in this matter. Would you tell me how to stop those wakelocks that caused from other services? I would really appreciate that, cause I find many people solve this problem but they never did expose where they learn from or the methods they use. and yea, I've googled but I got nothing
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Use Disable service app. Check which wakelock is occurring and disable that service.
Or get the donate version of unbounce and delay the wakelocks like every hour or so.
I already use Greenify and hibernate all apps that are not chat, not solved.
I also noticed that while I sleep and the phone remains idle the android system does not consume a lot of battery, something around 6%, but when you turn on the screen and the phone is active it starts to drain. So the problem is not in the wakelock, but elsewhere.
I'm using the applications suggested to post new screenshots later.
I used the apps for a day and I'm posting the screenshots of the result ... the system keeps draining and I don't see any information that would help me on the images.
Anyone have any ideas?
Jeanborba said:
Hello to all,
The second issue is regarding the performance measured by AnTuTu. I know that does not mean much, but in the STOCK I get 25.5k and I read out there that people also manages the same in CM11 LBL (the MrSteve555 and also bagyusz), I do not understand why I can here the maximum 22.5K .
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I'm on MrSteve555's CM for LBL and was also wondering why I was getting a much lower AnTuTu score than stock. Then I discovered that I get 22.5K scores WHEN CHARGING and 25.5K scores running off the battery!
Jeanborba said:
I used the apps for a day and I'm posting the screenshots of the result ... the system keeps draining and I don't see any information that would help me on the images.
Anyone have any ideas?
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I have noticed the same issues on all 4.4.x based roms (slimkat, pac, PA etc.). The only fix i found was to disable the automatic screen brightness. After disabling it the system_server service became normal and Android System dropped to 9-8% of overall battery consumption.
Good luck
Diablo.69 said:
I have noticed the same issues on all 4.4.x based roms (slimkat, pac, PA etc.). The only fix i found was to disable the automatic screen brightness. After disabling it the system_server service became normal and Android System dropped to 9-8% of overall battery consumption.
Good luck
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I've exactly the same problem of you : thanks very much for find!
My phone never enters deep sleep when i lock it with WiFi on, this happens on cm11 by steve it drains a lot overnight
4.00 - 4.30 hours on screen = 2 days with playing fifa 15 and facebook + viber. 1-2 photos, 60 mins browsing and about 30 mins talk good for me without using battery safe apps - lock my bl and using .207's kernel on mr.steve555's Weeklies CM11 lbl
try CM11 Mahdi Rom 4.4.4 with gapps minimal 23mb ,my battery work as well after play music,game and facebook
ya like many of you, even i had mixed experiences with battery life after marshmallow update. With doze being the new feature in M, battery drop during standby time was almost 0-1%. However, every now and then my phone refused to doze and would stay always awake. After testing several kernels with various governors and different battery saving techniques, i think, i might have hit the sweet spot (max battery life with ultimate performance).
Here's my settings..
1. Kernel : CODY Kernel 3.10.90
Governor : Performance
io scheduler : cfq (1024)
the kernel can be found here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63345022&postcount=32
Please Hit thanks to the developer.:good::good:
2. Install Doze settings editor app
It can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/root-doze-settings-editor-android-t3235130
after installing the app use the settings that i have posted in screenshot
Please Hit thanks to the developer of doze settings app.:good::good:
3. Optional(Install Greenify only to hibernate rarely used apps)
I got 4hr of Screen on time (average), you could get even more if you change governor settings. But for me performance matters the most so i am using performance governor which keeps cpu freq always to 1300MHz.
Please hit thanks if it helps you in any way, its the least u can do. :good::good:
If anyone has any better tips then please contribute (Be together, not the same)
Xposed is now working for MM so we can get more battery life with amplify installed.
trying and testing all the tweaks takes lots of time and people dont even press thanks , hence i wont write long post with details explaining all the tweaks
All i can say is that i am getting almost 5 hrs of Screen on time.
Will try and give feedback in a few weeks
You can also try this to save battery
Http://www.xda-developers.com/setting-up-android-marshmallow-without-google/
No google stuff like playstore and play services after that
hp5942 said:
Will try and give feedback in a few weeks
You can also try this to save battery
Http://www.xda-developers.com/setting-up-android-marshmallow-without-google/
No google stuff like playstore and play services after that
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I'm actually planning to do the same today. I don't really care for Google services anymore. I use this as backup phone. Let's see how everything goes on Android without "Google". :fingers-crossed:
naturist said:
I'm actually planning to do the same today. I don't really care for Google services anymore. I use this as backup phone. Let's see how everything goes on Android without "Google". :fingers-crossed:
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Yeah everything is fine without google but some apps keep annoying by asking to enable play services
i verified this technique and sure it gives alot of backup than ever before. As i was facing serious draining issues(50-60% battery drain overnight while nothing was done with the phone) this method now makes my sparkle v last a whole day with 20-25% battery left at 8 pm. I also identified that mediaserver, mtkrild and logd were constantly eating my cpu when idle and drained 60-70% battery. After flashing Cody kernel, everything seems to be working fine. Fingers crossed for now...
But the miscellaneous is still too high compared to lollipop where it would be around 20-30%. That is the main power consumer in marshmallow where it takes up almost double the amount. Any way to stop that?
hp5942 said:
Will try and give feedback in a few weeks
You can also try this to save battery
Http://www.xda-developers.com/setting-up-android-marshmallow-without-google/
No google stuff like playstore and play services after that
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hp5942 said:
Yeah everything is fine without google but some apps keep annoying by asking to enable play services
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For example? I am planning to use Amazon Appstore to install all apps to avoid apps asking for Google play services.
Saurabh K said:
i verified this technique and sure it gives alot of backup than ever before. As i was facing serious draining issues(50-60% battery drain overnight while nothing was done with the phone) this method now makes my sparkle v last a whole day with 20-25% battery left at 8 pm. I also identified that mediaserver, mtkrild and logd were constantly eating my cpu when idle and drained 60-70% battery. After flashing Cody kernel, everything seems to be working fine. Fingers crossed for now...
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Miscellaneous battery drain is just unaccounted drain. Just change ro.build.type=user.
If u change ro.build.type to userdebug only then u can see miscellaneous drain (its actually hidden).
Just check this post to understand more about miscellaneous battery drain.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=58178303&postcount=3
Dont forget to hit thanks:good:
Thank you. Will try and let you know the result.
please post full screenshot of doze setings
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ya like many of you, even i had mixed experiences with battery life after marshmallow update. With doze being the new feature in M, battery drop during standby time was almost 0-1%. However, every now and then my phone refused to doze and would stay always awake. After testing several kernels with various governors and different battery saving techniques, i think, i might have hit the sweet spot (max battery life with ultimate performance).
Here's my settings..
1. Kernel : CODY Kernel 3.10.90
Governor : Performance
io scheduler : cfq (1024)
the kernel can be found here..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63345022&postcount=32
Please Hit thanks to the developer.:good::good:
2. Install Doze settings editor app
It can be found here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/android/apps-games/root-doze-settings-editor-android-t3235130
after installing the app use the settings that i have posted in screenshot
Please Hit thanks to the developer of doze settings app.:good::good:
3. Optional(Install Greenify only to hibernate rarely used apps)
I got 4hr of Screen on time (average), you could get even more if you change governor settings. But for me performance matters the most so i am using performance governor which keeps cpu freq always to 1300MHz.
Please hit thanks if it helps you in any way, its the least u can do. :good::good:
If anyone has any better tips then please contribute (Be together, not the same)
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please post full screenshot of doze setings. you have only posted half of the setting. and thanx i think my battery life is improved!
Jessy11 said:
Thank you. Will try and let you know the result.
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yash sharma100 said:
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please post full screenshot of doze setings. you have only posted half of the setting. and thanx i think my battery life is improved!
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The other values are kept same as default. The app has been updated now and includes custom profiles.
I have attached screenshot for you. Note that these values are now in seconds and not milliseconds.
Also instead of saying thanks, you could just press thanks
More battery drain when using sd card as internal storage
I am experiencing even more battery drain if I use SD card as internal storage (Android 6.0 "adoptable storage" feature. It is draining too fast even with battery saver turned on. If I reboot into safe mode, the drain is considerably slower (but still much faster than lollipop).
Can anyone verify this? I think the main problem is with the doze and the screen stays awake all the time.
BTW, In this Guide first two option requires root which requires zeus kernel according to the other guides posted here. So that mean for Android 6.1.1 I have to revert to stock rom.
on my phone, "mtkrild" and "logd" constantly runs in the background which drains almost 60-70% of my battery. Any ways to solve it?
Saurabh K said:
on my phone, "mtkrild" and "logd" constantly runs in the background which drains almost 60-70% of my battery. Any ways to solve it?
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Please report that to issue tracker....https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=190777
Also you have logcat output please provide it.
sunnysigara said:
Please report that to issue tracker....https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=190777
Also you have logcat output please provide it.
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Ill try it, thanks,.
Amplify + Doze settings editor works great
After lot of trying and testing i am getting almost 5 hrs of SOT for our device with MM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=63587748&postcount=2
screenshots are attached
NOTE:
1. wifi is always ON.
2. device goes into deep sleep when not used. (doze is awesome)
Dont forget to press thanks
Hi i'm only trying to install Doze apk and not the kernel.
Can i use it on CM13 Marshmallow
also if the values that are changed in doze will they get saved permanently or will reset to default after unistalling the app?
good work
im facing serious battery draining problem, let's see whether it works for me or not...
and which app u use for kernel setting... and plz send me ur some i/o scheduler setting and all ur modifications which u made for it... and thanx hitted for ur work buddy!
Please reply with your own real experiences.
Q. Does rooted Greenify really improve battery life?
I use it, but I can't say it makes a huge difference.
Q. Does Package Disabler Pro really improve battery life?
I use it, but my co-worker doesn't, and his Note 5 lasts basically as long as mine.
Experiment:
Maybe what would be the most useful is using Tasker to really deal with battery life. I'm thinking about shutting off wifi and data when not needed, etc.
Has anyone tested something like this?
Thanks!:good:
Hey gaston. So I haven't rooted my note 5 just yet but I spent a year and a half with my opo trying all the permutations you mention.
Rooted greenify I feel works a lot like doze on marshmallow. If you are gaming you tubing etc constantly you won't really feel a difference.
Tasker is awesome and you will notice a difference in battery life to an extent but it goes way way beyond in terms of automation. If you end up using tasker profiles based on location and wifi you may just end up using more juice.
Package disabler using the profiles I have tried so far marginally improves battery life but nothing sizeable. I feel it makes the phone snappy by freeing some ram but that might just be a placebo.
Ergo I run the phone in full beast mode now and make use of the fast charge once in the evening for a half hour and that's good to get me through the day.
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swarup.siddharth said:
Hey gaston. So I haven't rooted my note 5 just yet but I spent a year and a half with my opo trying all the permutations you mention.
Rooted greenify I feel works a lot like doze on marshmallow. If you are gaming you tubing etc constantly you won't really feel a difference.
Tasker is awesome and you will notice a difference in battery life to an extent but it goes way way beyond in terms of automation. If you end up using tasker profiles based on location and wifi you may just end up using more juice.
Package disabler using the profiles I have tried so far marginally improves battery life but nothing sizeable. I feel it makes the phone snappy by freeing some ram but that might just be a placebo.
Ergo I run the phone in full beast mode now and make use of the fast charge once in the evening for a half hour and that's good to get me through the day.
Sent from my SM-N920G using Tapatalk
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Thanks!
I appreciate your honest reply. Many people here in the forums seem to lie a lot about performance and battery life.
Maybe keeping the phone charged is the best and simple solution.
That being said you are rooted so go ahead and try the custom roms out there. That is the one sure fire way to see a difference in performance and battery life.
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I've been using Greenify (unrooted), Package Disabler Pro, and dark themes to maximize my battery life. But I think Tasker does the most to help me conserve battery power.
When I am at work, Tasker turns off WiFi, Bluetooth, all sounds, and drops screen brightness to about 20%. I only turn on GPS when I am using an app that requires it. Tasker turns my brightness and volumes down when I am connected to WiFi at home.
I think these simple actions with Tasker help my battery life more than just about anything else. I average about 6.5 hours of SOT, and I still have 30%+ left on my battery when I get home.
But it all depends on how you use your phone. YouTube and video games consume more juice than TapaTalk and light Internet browsing.
Just try to uninstall or disable facebook app via settings, and feel the difference. I read on Internet that Facebook app known as battery eater. Just try it and give some response here. Hope that help.
It depends. Some people want the extreme battery savings and are willing to sacrifice a lot of performance on the phone, dim screen, no GPS, etc.
I prefer my phone to operate at its full potential all the time. I don't want to mess with settings if something came up and someone wanted to see a picture and I have to worry about setting brightnesses and whatnot.
For the most part, most of those apps are only getting a marginal amount of better battery. Maybe 20 or 30 minutes more charge over the day.
During work, I rarely use my phone because I'm actually working lol. Sometimes I use it for work but the quick charge takes care of whatever I lose during my lunch hour
I use GSAM the monitor was actually using the most battery in just address what's needed. The only feature that I usually do turn off and keep up for the most part is my Wi-Fi. In the areas I use my phone the most, my average download speeds over cellular are over a gigabit
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greeify - yes, only if you know greenified app was a battery drainer.
package disabler - yes, only if you know those services were battery drainers.
I use betterbatterystats app to find out what is draining the battery.
biggest culprit for me was phone not going into Deep Sleep. If you can remedy deep sleep issue, your battery will last much longer. I currently get around 1 percent drain every 2 hours when my phone's screen is off. that's with wifi on all the time.
Best way for me was installing a custom rom. most custom roms will have battery issues fixed. I use dr ketan's rom. it's awesome.
Another way without rooting that I found out, is disable google services. google play services and all google services. if you do that, watch your battery last forever.
I forget which app, but you could make profiles so you could enable or disable all google services, and google play services. I mean, you don't download new apps all the time, right?
So only enable google play services when you want to download apps and turn it off for the rest of time.
and of course deal with bloatware.
gaston_garcia said:
Thanks!
I appreciate your honest reply. Many people here in the forums seem to lie a lot about performance and battery life.
Maybe keeping the phone charged is the best and simple solution.
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I'm glad you asked, i've been using greenify amplify and powernap as of recently, and no it does not improve battery life automatically but it helps to keep your running services in check.
I've had couple of times that chrome was running in background, despite i closed it, means it drains battery when your screen is off, greenify prevents that from happening which result in battery improvement or more precisely, helps you manage the services right.
However to my surprise, calibrating the battery via batterycalibaration app or L Speed tweaks apk(both need root), it stabilized my battery after couple of cycles, i did a test charge the phone to 100 then using performance governor, i put Angry birds 2 till the battery reached 5% so i could see the SOT, before this step i had 2h 45m but AFTER calibration i had 4h 30m, that a LOT for performance non stop ab2 gaming.
It helps with regular uses as well, i also used repair battery to make sure that battery health is in check, hope all that helps
o7ex said:
Just try to uninstall or disable facebook app via settings, and feel the difference. I read on Internet that Facebook app known as battery eater. Just try it and give some response here. Hope that help.
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I've tried this several times and over the last 3 weeks and honestly have never notice any difference to battery life. The less features of the web version to me doesn't warrant this as a worthwhile change.
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Best way for me was installing a custom rom. most custom roms will have battery issues fixed. I use dr ketan's rom. it's awesome.
Another way without rooting that I found out said:
Re dr ketans rom assume this requires root? Does it take away features of the standard rom or is it closely linked to the OE Rom?
Interesting re profiles - I will look this up thanks
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Derpling said:
However to my surprise, calibrating the battery via batterycalibaration app or L Speed tweaks apk(both need root), it stabilized my battery after couple of cycles, i did a test charge the phone to 100 then using performance governor, i put Angry birds 2 till the battery reached 5% so i could see the SOT, before this step i had 2h 45m but AFTER calibration i had 4h 30m, that a LOT for performance non stop ab2 gaming.
It helps with regular uses as well, i also used repair battery to make sure that battery health is in check, hope all that helps
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Interesting. I've never tried calibrating a battery.
Honestly, I feel fine with my Note 5. But I always imagine what I want from a ROM or device:
Better battery is always good
Fast performance is good
Larry Johnson said:
Best way for me was installing a custom rom. most custom roms will have battery issues fixed. I use dr ketan's rom. it's awesome.
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I've thought about installing and trying Dr. Ketan's Rom.
Has it been great for you? What's been the thing you like the most about it?
Thanks for your answer.:good:
stm8 said:
I've been using Greenify (unrooted), Package Disabler Pro, and dark themes to maximize my battery life. But I think Tasker does the most to help me conserve battery power.
When I am at work, Tasker turns off WiFi, Bluetooth, all sounds, and drops screen brightness to about 20%. I only turn on GPS when I am using an app that requires it. Tasker turns my brightness and volumes down when I am connected to WiFi at home.
I think these simple actions with Tasker help my battery life more than just about anything else. I average about 6.5 hours of SOT, and I still have 30%+ left on my battery when I get home.
But it all depends on how you use your phone. YouTube and video games consume more juice than TapaTalk and light Internet browsing.
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Hey..
I was interested when you mention using Tasker app, so I tried to use it.
When I was setting the app I try to set WiFi on when at home and set off when I'm not, does this need root? could you share the tutorial setup to me?
One more thing, I tried set GPS on when using the allowed app, I find this set must be rooted, If you could, would you share the tutorial setup too?
thanks
Seriously? Swipe down and toggle wifi and mobile data on/off!
Less than 2 seconds plus you can see your beautiful notification drawer if you using a theme you like!
bonerp said:
Re dr ketans rom assume this requires root? Does it take away features of the standard rom or is it closely linked to the OE Rom?
Interesting re profiles - I will look this up thanks
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yea, any rom install requires root. I thought about not rooting my note5 for a while. damn knox count that disables samsung pay + much harder to sell and lowers the resale value. HATE samsung for doing that. I mean, if I flash a stock rom, everything should be back to normal. ONLY company that makes the resale value of phone drop forever, if you root!
sorry, i digress.
dr ketan's rom is very clean and snappy. he only removed knox and carrier apps, and left everything stock. didn't take away any functions, but added "actually useful" features. insane amount of features without slowing down the phone. it feels like stock rom without the bloat and the usual "limited" feeling of stock. battery life is improved also. especially the deep sleep. what i noticed was that, when i was on stock, deep sleep was pretty good already, then I rooted and deep sleep was out of wack. I tried everything for the deep sleep to be better, but didn't work well. so i flashed dr ketan's rom, and deep sleep is now actually better than stock.
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gaston_garcia said:
I've thought about installing and trying Dr. Ketan's Rom.
Has it been great for you? What's been the thing you like the most about it?
Thanks for your answer.:good:
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- nonstop update/support. he actually replies to everyone. only developer i've seen who does that.
- very good features. they are actually very useful and powerful.
- very stable.
- an of course, great battery life.
Mr. Wayne8 said:
Hey..
I was interested when you mention using Tasker app, so I tried to use it.
When I was setting the app I try to set WiFi on when at home and set off when I'm not, does this need root? could you share the tutorial setup to me?
One more thing, I tried set GPS on when using the allowed app, I find this set must be rooted, If you could, would you share the tutorial setup too?
thanks
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Yeah, there is a pretty steep learning curve when it comes to Tasker. On the bottom right hand corner in the Tasker app, click on the question-mark icon. From there you can click on "Guides" for user tips and tutorials. Click on "Userguide" for the manual.
GPS cannot be set without root, since Gingerbread OS I believe. I manually turn it on and off when I need it. I leave WiFi on during the time frame I am at work. Tasker turns it back on at quitting time. When I get home and connect to my home WiFi, Tasker sets my brightness, sound levels, etc.
Hey everyone,
Hope you all are doing good. So I wanted to ask as to how your battery life is after updating to Marshmallow as compared to lollipop?
Mine has actually gone down and I am really pissed and worried. Have posted on G+ communities asking for solutions but haven't received any worthy solution so far?
Getting slightly better battery life with MM here...
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Slightly better on LP than on MM for me. I was getting more than 6h SOT before and now I can get only more than 5h. Cell standby is there most of the time and eating some ( not too much probably but still annoying) battery.
Envoyé de mon SM-N920C
Having the same problem here and still haven't found any solution
I am losing nearly 8 to 9% per hour on standby time without touching my phone on MM compared to 0.5 or 1% per hour on LO
hamid_ishfaq said:
Hey everyone,
Hope you all are doing good. So I wanted to ask as to how your battery life is after updating to Marshmallow as compared to lollipop?
Mine has actually gone down and I am really pissed and worried. Have posted on G+ communities asking for solutions but haven't received any worthy solution so far?
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hi,
Firstly, battery life overall on Marshmallow has been overall quite good (for me) .!
Similar to Lollipop.
But then all my Note range 2,3,4..5 has and still has, very good battery usage overall !
If i had battery " life issues" I would have done a bit of "investigating" or what is causing battery the drain?
Also, did you do a clean update or dirty?
I would also, monitor batter usage ....?
eg with a app like GSam battery app etc etc. (Play store, free app)
(Before you start blaming Marshmallow or system.)
You must also remember, some 3rd-party
apps might not been optimized for Marshmallow .. yet. ?
I have already experience this, with some 3rd party apps on Marshmallow !
If its system causing issues then remember , system apps, wifi, location always on , Facebook or some always on app, etc might be the reason.?
I would then consider taking drastic steps... factory reset and reflashing official stock Rom again.
You don't have to be rooted to do above !
Bottom line, you have to find cause /app /system app, and deal with it accordingly.
Good luck
Did you try the deep sleep fix by Dr.ketan ?
Note 5 which have knox triggered have issues going into deep sleep which will have huge impact on the standby time.
Try applying Dr.ketan fix on this page :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/test-marshmallow-deep-sleep-fix-tripped-t3319164
willcor said:
hi,
Firstly, battery life overall on Marshmallow has been overall quite good (for me) .!
Similar to Lollipop.
But then all my Note range 2,3,4..5 has and still has, very good battery usage overall !
If i had battery " life issues" I would have done a bit of "investigating" or what is causing battery the drain?
Also, did you do a clean update or dirty?
I would also, monitor batter usage ....?
eg with a app like GSam battery app etc etc. (Play store, free app)
(Before you start blaming Marshmallow or system.)
You must also remember, some 3rd-party
apps might not been optimized for Marshmallow .. yet. ?
I have already experience this, with some 3rd party apps on Marshmallow !
If its system causing issues then remember , system apps, wifi, location always on , Facebook or some always on app, etc might be the reason.?
I would then consider taking drastic steps... factory reset and reflashing official stock Rom again.
You don't have to be rooted to do above !
Bottom line, you have to find cause /app /system app, and deal with it accordingly.
Good luck
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Hey, thanks a lot for such a detailed reply, really appreciate it.
I actually did do somewhat of an investigation after reading some posts and articles online. I am unable to find the real reason the battery time has decreased after I updated to MM. I did a clean update using ODIN to flash the latest firmware. It was the cambodian version that first came up. Later on when a Saudi Arabia version came up, I flashed that since I got my phone from Saudi Arabia. I performed a factory reset aswell and set it up from scratch.
I don't use the facebook app so I have disabled that, location is also off and wifi settings have also been optimized. When I check my battery stats, I don't see any app or any system app even that is consuming unusual amount of battery. "Screen" is always the one to use the most battery and is followed by "Cell Standby" and "Android OS".
I don't know about the third party apps much to be honest. There aren't much in my phone except for the usuals like snapchat and messenger and some other apps but none of them are consuming unusual amount of battery. I have turned on the app optimization so many of my apps are always optimizing.
If you have any more idea as to what should I do, let me know and i'll surely try it out.
hanj12 said:
Did you try the deep sleep fix by Dr.ketan ?
Note 5 which have knox triggered have issues going into deep sleep which will have huge impact on the standby time.
Try applying Dr.ketan fix on this page :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note5/general/test-marshmallow-deep-sleep-fix-tripped-t3319164
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My knox isn't triggered I have checked that because I have kept this phone in it's stock state since the day I got it. Previously I used to root my phones the day I got them but this time I around I wanted to see how stock will treat me so I didn't root this one.
Dr. Ketan's fix is for knox tripped devices and asks for root etc so i'll probably pass on that.
Thanks for your reply.
hamid_ishfaq said:
Hey, thanks a lot for such a detailed reply, really appreciate it.
I actually did do somewhat of an investigation after reading some posts and articles online. I am unable to find the real reason the battery time has decreased after I updated to MM. I did a clean update using ODIN to flash the latest firmware. It was the cambodian version that first came up. Later on when a Saudi Arabia version came up, I flashed that since I got my phone from Saudi Arabia. I performed a factory reset aswell and set it up from scratch.
I don't use the facebook app so I have disabled that, location is also off and wifi settings have also been optimized. When I check my battery stats, I don't see any app or any system app even that is consuming unusual amount of battery. "Screen" is always the one to use the most battery and is followed by "Cell Standby" and "Android OS".
I don't know about the third party apps much to be honest. There aren't much in my phone except for the usuals like snapchat and messenger and some other apps but none of them are consuming unusual amount of battery. I have turned on the app optimization so many of my apps are always optimizing.
If you have any more idea as to what should I do, let me know and i'll surely try it out.
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HI,
It's good to see you are trying. Believe me we have to pinpoint any possible "wakelocks" that you have.Only then should you be able to tackle issue. !
Have you installed even GSam battery app ? It has a section to pinpoint " app suckers".. (their wording.) (No root needed)
Have you looked at your deep sleep data?
eg a app like Cpu spy should tell you such info .? or is your device always running in a low power state .? (no root needed)
Are you rooted ?
then yes issues it can be endless .!
Anyway ,
If so ,you can install battery apps eg Wakelock dectector or Betterbatteries ,to get more info ?
Then there is apps like Greenify or your stock Smart Manager ,that can tell you a lot .or nothing ?
have you disable processes with an app "Package Disabler" if so you can have "knock on" effect .(re battery drain )
Please note ...
that the stock battery app helps, but its very basic.Your Snapchat and Messenger ,is it set to auto update .?..thus causing wakelocks ,as apps has to check Status/updates.?.(battery drainers .)
Good luck
willcor said:
HI,
It's good to see you are trying. Believe me we have to pinpoint any possible "wakelocks" that you have.Only then should you be able to tackle issue. !
Have you installed even GSam battery app ? It has a section to pinpoint " app suckers".. (their wording.) (No root needed)
Have you looked at your deep sleep data?
eg a app like Cpu spy should tell you such info .? or is your device always running in a low power state .? (no root needed)
Are you rooted ?
then yes issues it can be endless .!
Anyway ,
If so ,you can install battery apps eg Wakelock dectector or Betterbatteries ,to get more info ?
Then there is apps like Greenify or your stock Smart Manager ,that can tell you a lot .or nothing ?
have you disable processes with an app "Package Disabler" if so you can have "knock on" effect .(re battery drain )
Please note ...
that the stock battery app helps, but its very basic.Your Snapchat and Messenger ,is it set to auto update .?..thus causing wakelocks ,as apps has to check Status/updates.?.(battery drainers .)
Good luck
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Hey,
Thanks for your constant support. Yeah I know that is the only way this issue can be solved.
I will install GSam right now and see what it has to say.
I was thinking of looking at the deep sleep data, haven't done it yet. Will install cpu spy as well.
No I don't use my phone in a low power state.
Nope. Not rooted. Thinking of doing so, what do you say?
I haven't installed Greenify after the update. I think buying such a heavy spec phone and then limiting everything kind of ruins the whole point of it, don't you think?
Haven't used package disabler cause it confuses me as to what to disable and what not to.
Yup my apps are set to auto update. The battery app doesn't show them using too much battery though. How to disable this auto update I'm kinda unsure?
hamid_ishfaq said:
Hey,
Thanks for your constant support. Yeah I know that is the only way this issue can be solved.
I will install GSam right now and see what it has to say.
I was thinking of looking at the deep sleep data, haven't done it yet. Will install cpu spy as well.
No I don't use my phone in a low power state.
Nope. Not rooted. Thinking of doing so, what do you say?
I haven't installed Greenify after the update. I think buying such a heavy spec phone and then limiting everything kind of ruins the whole point of it, don't you think?
Haven't used package disabler cause it confuses me as to what to disable and what not to.
Yup my apps are set to auto update. The battery app doesn't show them using too much battery though. How to disable this auto update I'm kinda unsure?
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hi ,
Rooting ...its your choice ,its your device .!!!!!!
however ,i can answer you in this way .
All my precious devices , ..eg Note 2 ,3 , 4...and a Note 8.0 tablet ,is rooted and i am really enjoying the "rooting "
capabilities /power ..to do what i want ..!
That said you would notice i did not list Note5 ?
No ,its not rooted ( had device since October 2015 )
Yet ,my Note 4 ihave ,same day ..rooted .
So it depends .?
I have found no need to root Note5 ,as i am happy overall with the whole experience.!!
smoothness ,speed ,themes ,browsing experience .!!
No irritating bugs ( Just sorted the few bugs i had out ..factory resetting .)
this time it worked .(Previously ,seldom worked ,factory resetting )
I ended up always, flashing Rom with Odin to fix .
Battery overall ,
eg .sleep mode ( night time ) i get about 9../10 hours with +- 3% drainage .
I am a "meduim power user" and get with overall use a day ...+- 35..40 % battery drainage ( +- 24hrs)so i have about... 55/ 60% battery left at end of the day .(eg emails weather updates ,twitter ,forums /web browsings ..Google Play store updates , Themes store etc etc . )
I feel i can achieve this as my device is tweaked right !!! Not obsessed,as to as some members with battery SOT ( time on ) .
Ok , Auto Update , Play store ?
turn off in Play store settings ,(see screenshot .....this taken with my Note5 , screenshot )
Gsam battery ,( see other 2 x screenshot ( taken on my rooted Note 3 , with custom ROM )
also notice in (re Note3 ) GSam setting screenshot that in sleep mode i got about 4% drainage re 10hrs standby !
Good luck
A lot is about the use...now I can get the same I had on LP with normal (for me)use :browsing, Tapatalk, some games, some Wi-Fi calling, texts, only Wi-Fi ...I wouldn't get the same with only games or Facebook or equivalent battery eater. Stock unrooted MM.
Envoyé de mon SM-N920C
willcor said:
hi ,
Rooting ...its your choice ,its your device .!!!!!!
however ,i can answer you in this way .
All my precious devices , ..eg Note 2 ,3 , 4...and a Note 8.0 tablet ,is rooted and i am really enjoying the "rooting "
capabilities /power ..to do what i want ..!
That said you would notice i did not list Note5 ?
No ,its not rooted ( had device since October 2015 )
Yet ,my Note 4 ihave ,same day ..rooted .
So it depends .?
I have found no need to root Note5 ,as i am happy overall with the whole experience.!!
smoothness ,speed ,themes ,browsing experience .!!
No irritating bugs ( Just sorted the few bugs i had out ..factory resetting .)
this time it worked .(Previously ,seldom worked ,factory resetting )
I ended up always, flashing Rom with Odin to fix .
Battery overall ,
eg .sleep mode ( night time ) i get about 9../10 hours with +- 3% drainage .
I am a "meduim power user" and get with overall use a day ...+- 35..40 % battery drainage ( +- 24hrs)so i have about... 55/ 60% battery left at end of the day .(eg emails weather updates ,twitter ,forums /web browsings ..Google Play store updates , Themes store etc etc . )
I feel i can achieve this as my device is tweaked right !!! Not obsessed,as to as some members with battery SOT ( time on ) .
Ok , Auto Update , Play store ?
turn off in Play store settings ,(see screenshot .....this taken with my Note5 , screenshot )
Gsam battery ,( see other 2 x screenshot ( taken on my rooted Note 3 , with custom ROM )
also notice in (re Note3 ) GSam setting screenshot that in sleep mode i got about 4% drainage re 10hrs standby !
Good luck
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Hey,
Yeah I know. I have been a rooting fan since the beginning. My nexus 5 was rooted so was my note 3. This is my first phone that I haven't rooted, it's an accomplishment. Exactly, I am satisfied with my note 5 as well. Was very very happy actually but after the update the battery life has been a bit of a disappointment, otherwise it's great in terms of speed and smoothness etc. Even my iPhone lover friends are quite amazed at the performance of my phone with lollipop and even more with marshmallow.
I did the factory reset after some members on the G+ note 5 community pointed out but that didn't make any difference for me.
I did as you suggested, downloaded those apps and used the phone after 100% charge. Since yesterday was a holiday so I didn't use the phone much as I was on my laptop. So after taking off my phone at 12 in the noon I used it somewhat and had more than 50% left even when I woke up today. Used the 50% and right now I'm on 15% here are the screenshots of my usage. I usually charge my phone as it reaches 40 and charge it to around 80 85%.
I hope you can help me after seeing these. *fingers crossed*
bingbings said:
A lot is about the use...now I can get the same I had on LP with normal (for me)use :browsing, Tapatalk, some games, some Wi-Fi calling, texts, only Wi-Fi ...I wouldn't get the same with only games or Facebook or equivalent battery eater. Stock unrooted MM.
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Envoyé de mon SM-N920C
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Hey,
Thanks for your participation. Yeah I know all the depends on the use and I don't think my use is too heavy. As you can see in the screenshots I attached in the comment above. I use a little bit of social media, no Facebook though. Whatsapp, Instagram, Snapchat, g+, flip board, fb groups, messenger and some internet surfing and some texting and a little bit of texting and some short calls. No games. I have one two but I hardly play them.
hamid_ishfaq said:
Hey,
Yeah I know. I have been a rooting fan since the beginning. My nexus 5 was rooted so was my note 3. This is my first phone that I haven't rooted, it's an accomplishment. Exactly, I am satisfied with my note 5 as well. Was very very happy actually but after the update the battery life has been a bit of a disappointment, otherwise it's great in terms of speed and smoothness etc. Even my iPhone lover friends are quite amazed at the performance of my phone with lollipop and even more with marshmallow.
I did the factory reset after some members on the G+ note 5 community pointed out but that didn't make any difference for me.
I did as you suggested, downloaded those apps and used the phone after 100% charge. Since yesterday was a holiday so I didn't use the phone much as I was on my laptop. So after taking off my phone at 12 in the noon I used it somewhat and had more than 50% left even when I woke up today. Used the 50% and right now I'm on 15% here are the screenshots of my usage. I usually charge my phone as it reaches 40 and charge it to around 80 85%.
I hope you can help me after seeing these. *fingers crossed*
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hi,
Well we can try and id culprit /reason.
In app GSam top right in your screenshot you have time on etc.
You have to press drop down small icon and list will appear of options.
see screenshot. Then its up to you to monitor different options ?
Good luck
willcor said:
hi,
Well we can try and id culprit /reason.
In app GSam top right in your screenshot you have time on etc.
You have to press drop down small icon and list will appear of options.
see screenshot. Then its up to you to monitor different options ?
Good luck
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Hey,
I only have 3 options there, probably cause I'm not using the paid version.
I was thinking of downgrading to lollipop to see how it performs there now? Do you know how I can do that? Since I remember that there was a bootloader change when lollipop arrived and so after updating to lollipop, going back to kit Kat was quite difficult. Is it the same for marshmallow?
hamid_ishfaq said:
Hey,
I only have 3 options there, probably cause I'm not using the paid version.
I was thinking of downgrading to lollipop to see how it performs there now? Do you know how I can do that? Since I remember that there was a bootloader change when lollipop arrived and so after updating to lollipop, going back to kit Kat was quite difficult. Is it the same for marshmallow?
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hi
Firstly, i also have GSam free version..!...... very strange.?
Yes, i have seen few post on XDA, re downgrading to Lollipop.
Unfortunately, i cannot help much with that. Just make sure it's for your model
N 920C..?. etc.
Also check via Google or so YouTube video how to do it.,!
Yes, the bootloader would have been updated? (. i think..)
Good luck
willcor said:
hi
Firstly, i also have GSam free version..!...... very strange.?
Yes, i have seen few post on XDA, re downgrading to Lollipop.
Unfortunately, i cannot help much with that. Just make sure it's for your model
N 920C..?. etc.
Also check via Google or so YouTube video how to do it.,!
Yes, the bootloader would have been updated? (. i think..)
Good luck
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Well that is strange since I don't have any such options as you. :/
Yeah I have a 920c which is the international variant.
I'll try searching on that. Thanks a lot for your responses and help so far. Really appreciate it.
willcor said:
hi
Firstly, i also have GSam free version..!...... very strange.?
Yes, i have seen few post on XDA, re downgrading to Lollipop.
Unfortunately, i cannot help much with that. Just make sure it's for your model
N 920C..?. etc.
Also check via Google or so YouTube video how to do it.,!
Yes, the bootloader would have been updated? (. i think..)
Good luck
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Hey
So I downgraded to lollipop and now I'm getting a notification for an OTA
hamid_ishfaq said:
Hey
So I downgraded to lollipop and now I'm getting a notification for an OTA
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hi,
if yiu are not rooted and on official stock it should be ok.. to OTA
Good luck
Hey there,
I've had my 3T ever since it was released, and compared to my previous phone, Samsung S6, I'm definitely getting a better battery life, but it's been hit or miss for me the last month or so, and I'm wondering how I can try and increase the battery life and whether rooting my phone would help.
I've literally never rooted a phone before, so I don't know if this is advisable for someone so new to all this - is it easy to do so?
I've included a few screenshots of my battery life currently, I used to get around 7 hours SOT total, now I'd say I get around 5-6 depending on what I do? I don't constantly have wifi on, I'm not using greenify or any other battery saving apps, I have doze on in the developer settings but not aggressive dose.
I've seen others with 10 hours SOT so I know this phone is certainly capable of it, and I know I don't have the most terrible battery life but the drain is fairly noticeable imo when it's idle.
Would it be worthwhile to factory reset the phone first and see if it improves anything first?
While rooting itself wouldn't increase battery life, you can do some stuff like, flash a different kernel such as Franco kernel, that has improved my battery life immensely. Or you can install a rom which could help also.
And yes rooting your phone is very simple just follow the guides step by step. That's my battery life at 78%
sakumaxp said:
While rooting itself wouldn't increase battery life, you can do some stuff like, flash a different kernel such as Franco kernel, that has improved my battery life immensely. Or you can install a rom which could help also.
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Would you say it's easy to do for someone who's not done this kind of thing before?
microserfs said:
Would you say it's easy to do for someone who's not done this kind of thing before?
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Most definitely, I know it can be nerve-racking at first but just watch and read the tutorials a few times and understand the steps, then give it a try. Even if something does go wrong, we are all here to help you, it legit will only take you 15 mins tops to root your phone
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I think that was the video I followed
The battery life won't be affected significantly but u can use apps like greenify or install custom kernel like the Franco kernel to improve the battery life. They do really work
sakumaxp said:
Most definitely, I know it can be nerve-racking at first but just watch and read the tutorials a few times and understand the steps, then give it a try. Even if something does go wrong, we are all here to help you, it legit will only take you 15 mins tops to root your phone
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I think that was the video I followed
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Thank you! I have a Macbook so I don't know if the process is significantly different as I'm not used to all the terminal commands and using adb and stuff, but I'll definitely check out the video Am a bit cautious about doing it rn as I'm away for a few weeks haha, so I don't know whether I should wait until I get back but having a better battery life abroad would really be useful!
9891ishu said:
The battery life won't be affected significantly but u can use apps like greenify or install custom kernel like the Franco kernel to improve the battery life. They do really work
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Yeah, that's the main reason I was thinking of doing so, mainly for the apps like Greenify and to check out the wakelocks and stuff in more detail. Thanks, good to know it might actually help increase the battery life to do so
microserfs said:
Hey there,
I've had my 3T ever since it was released, and compared to my previous phone, Samsung S6, I'm definitely getting a better battery life, but it's been hit or miss for me the last month or so, and I'm wondering how I can try and increase the battery life and whether rooting my phone would help.
I've literally never rooted a phone before, so I don't know if this is advisable for someone so new to all this - is it easy to do so?
I've included a few screenshots of my battery life currently, I used to get around 7 hours SOT total, now I'd say I get around 5-6 depending on what I do? I don't constantly have wifi on, I'm not using greenify or any other battery saving apps, I have doze on in the developer settings but not aggressive dose.
I've seen others with 10 hours SOT so I know this phone is certainly capable of it, and I know I don't have the most terrible battery life but the drain is fairly noticeable imo when it's idle.
Would it be worthwhile to factory reset the phone first and see if it improves anything first?
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Would you say battery was better on Marshmallow or Nougat? Maybe try downgrading and see if battery life improves again.
954wrecker said:
Would you say battery was better on Marshmallow or Nougat? Maybe try downgrading and see if battery life improves again.
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I think it was fine for a while on Nougat, it's only been the past couple updates that have caused my battery life to decrease. I like Nougat a lot so I don't really want to downgrade, but if there's any other options I can take that would help, then I'd be willing to try... It's the standby time too that seems to be an issue, drain is 2% an hour even when it's idle (with wifi, bluetooth, LTE etc off)
microserfs said:
I think it was fine for a while on Nougat, it's only been the past couple updates that have caused my battery life to decrease. I like Nougat a lot so I don't really want to downgrade, but if there's any other options I can take that would help, then I'd be willing to try... It's the standby time too that seems to be an issue, drain is 2% an hour even when it's idle (with wifi, bluetooth, LTE etc off)
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Maybe its just our batteries degrading. I used to get 12-14 and now I only get 10-12. Same apps and settings and usage.
microserfs said:
I think it was fine for a while on Nougat, it's only been the past couple updates that have caused my battery life to decrease. I like Nougat a lot so I don't really want to downgrade, but if there's any other options I can take that would help, then I'd be willing to try... It's the standby time too that seems to be an issue, drain is 2% an hour even when it's idle (with wifi, bluetooth, LTE etc off)
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i fixed this by installing app ops and disabling keep phone awake, location, body sensors, and wake device permissions from google play services. Installing greenify and putting all my apps in there that i dont rely on notifications for. Setting up a tasker profile to greenify apps whenever my display is turned off (greenify doesn't do this straight away and some apps take forever). Installing naptime and turning on aggressive doze (for the apps that aren't greenified, works better than nougat's built in i think it doesn't kick in for 30 minutes on it's own).
I get 1% drain per 6-8 hours this way. The app ops part was the final step i took because i noticed 600 alarms from google play services overnight and now i dont get more than 30 so obviously thats completely ridiculous.
EuEra said:
i fixed this by installing app ops and disabling keep phone awake, location, body sensors, and wake device permissions from google play services. Installing greenify and putting all my apps in there that i dont rely on notifications for. Setting up a tasker profile to greenify apps whenever my display is turned off (greenify doesn't do this straight away and some apps take forever). Installing naptime and turning on aggressive doze (for the apps that aren't greenified, works better than nougat's built in i think it doesn't kick in for 30 minutes on it's own).
I get 1% drain per 6-8 hours this way. The app ops part was the final step i took because i noticed 600 alarms from google play services overnight and now i dont get more than 30 so obviously thats completely ridiculous.
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Are you rooted? I'm wondering how much of this I can do without rooting but I know apps like Greenify work better with root and Naptime requires root to work. I figured Greenify and Doze were doing similar things but I guess Greenify works differently? I'll probably find that rooting will get me better battery life in general if I can make use of all these apps by doing so. I don't know how to check wakelocks without rooting (don't think there's a way) but GSam tells me the Android System "Number of Times Waking Device" is 184. idk if this really says much tho.
microserfs said:
Are you rooted? I'm wondering how much of this I can do without rooting but I know apps like Greenify work better with root and Naptime requires root to work. I figured Greenify and Doze were doing similar things but I guess Greenify works differently? I'll probably find that rooting will get me better battery life in general if I can make use of all these apps by doing so. I don't know how to check wakelocks without rooting (don't think there's a way) but GSam tells me the Android System "Number of Times Waking Device" is 184. idk if this really says much tho.
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I don't a reason not to root any more, with magisk you get root and can still use things like android pay or banking apps etc.