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A friend of mine gives me the possibility to trade my galaxy nexus for his galaly note, I like the display and the s pen but I would lost the "nexus" support...I can't decide,what would you do?
p.s. with the galaxy nexus i can get 3h 30min of screen on,what about note?
@BurningKoala I had GNexus for some time (app developing) and it's a great phone, but I'm glad I chose the Note over it.
Disadvantages are SO & Hardware optimization (Note's fast and reliable but nothing rivals Nexus) and, maybe, size. If you are considering the Note, size might not be a problem to you. The huge screen is also it's main advantage; for navigation or reading it's just a BIG jump. I really enjoy it. There's a reason why new phones are getting near the Note's screen size...
About battery, it's not as good as the Note II but comparable to that of the GNexus. You'll get trough the day with a lot of use without problems.
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BurningKoala said:
A friend of mine gives me the possibility to trade my galaxy nexus for his galaly note, I like the display and the s pen but I would lost the "nexus" support...I can't decide,what would you do?
p.s. with the galaxy nexus i can get 3h 30min of screen on,what about note?
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You will feel the difference in smoothness if you intend to keep it stock. But coming from a nexus i don't think you will have any problems with CM or AOSP roms, wich are much faster than Samsung Touchwiz.
Go for it and do the trade
You won't regret it
Stay with the Nexus - the support from Samsung on the Note is terrible. The recent Jelly Bean update to the Note is a disaster, it is VERY slow. Laggy everywhere, ugly, unintuitive compared to AOSP.
Want to use the S-pen? Use the S-Note app which lags like hell. When you draw with it then it jumps, also the s-pen is not calibrated properly (you can get a payed app to calibrate it properly)
Want to phone someone? Press the phone icon on your launcher, wait 5s, then get a laggy animation and then wait another 5s for the phone to load.
Want to perform a factory reset on ICS? Do so and after that you will brick your phone. If you flash a kernel then there is a possibility you will loose your guarantee.
Want to get TW 4.2.2? Forget about it, it won't happen.
Want AOSP on it? Sure we have it. Some very good ROM's... it's a shame that Samsung hasn't released the exynos source code EVEN THOUGH they said they would by the end of of 2012. This means many developers are leaving the exynos based devices and we won't get as much support on new android versions. Also we have a broken hwcomposer meaning it has not got projet butter. And you can certainly see this.
Want to watch a movie on your phone? Great! watch how all yopur greys are replaced with pitch black, imagine what a horror movie looks like on our screen now. That is what the balck clipping/black crush issue is with it.
Anything good about the phone? Well... It has a nice screen size, that's it in my eyes.
XxPixX said:
Stay with the Nexus - the support from Samsung on the Note is terrible. The recent Jelly Bean update to the Note is a disaster, it is VERY slow. Laggy everywhere, ugly, unintuitive compared to AOSP.
Want to use the S-pen? Use the S-Note app which lags like hell. When you draw with it then it jumps, also the s-pen is not calibrated properly (you can get a payed app to calibrate it properly)
Want to phone someone? Press the phone icon on your launcher, wait 5s, then get a laggy animation and then wait another 5s for the phone to load.
Want to perform a factory reset on ICS? Do so and after that you will brick your phone. If you flash a kernel then there is a possibility you will loose your guarantee.
Want to get TW 4.2.2? Forget about it, it won't happen.
Want AOSP on it? Sure we have it. Some very good ROM's... it's a shame that Samsung hasn't released the exynos source code EVEN THOUGH they said they would by the end of of 2012. This means many developers are leaving the exynos based devices and we won't get as much support on new android versions. Also we have a broken hwcomposer meaning it has not got projet butter. And you can certainly see this.
Want to watch a movie on your phone? Great! watch how all yopur greys are replaced with pitch black, imagine what a horror movie looks like on our screen now. That is what the balck clipping/black crush issue is with it.
Anything good about the phone? Well... It has a nice screen size, that's it in my eyes.
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Wow... seems like we have two completely different phones.
I can't agree with 80% of what you say. Sadly the emmc brick bug is there, and there will never be enough soft&hw support from Samsung to get us all pleased, but hey...
- JB runs GREAT on this phone, the failure is the update process which ruins everything. Do a clean one and is as fast and estable as it should.
- No lag in phone app. 1 or 2 secs, maybe? Surely NOT 5 seconds. Again: JB clean installation?
- Not liking S-Note? Well, S-pen utility sure doesn't end there. Have 5 drawing apps which I just can't imagine myself using them without the S-Pen (calibrated, by the way, with simple rooting and easy tweaking).
- Black clipping problem, just for your information, is also present in the GNexus as it is in every pentile HD amoled screen. Maybe not as hard, but it is there. Check it for yourself.
- Assuming you want to live flashing new roms, you might get affected by the unreleasing of exynos source code. I never got affected by it, most surely will never be.
- And then, there comes the big screen: Gaming, browsing, typing, reading, showing pictures, watching videos... it is like half a tablet in your everyday life, which in terms of use to me changes EVERYTHING.
Don't get me wrong, you have all the right to be unhappy with any device in the world, but those words seemed like facts when they are not really that objective. As you can see, I didn't say Note was better than GNexus: I just offered my perspective, which is a really pleasant one.
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My decision will be the same, nexus 5 or note 3
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Drummyman said:
- JB runs GREAT on this phone, the failure is the update process which ruins everything. Do a clean one and is as fast and estable as it should.
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Trust me, I wouldn't be too surprised if I has flashed over 300 times on my phone. Maybe even 500. I know how to perform a full wipe and proper install, also I NEVER have a bloated device. i try to keep as little apps as possible (usually about 15 user apps, nearly all from google). What did I realise after about 3 days of use? The phone got very slow and laggy. Not even restarts helped.
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- No lag in phone app. 1 or 2 secs, maybe? Surely NOT 5 seconds. Again: JB clean installation?
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Clear the phone out of the memory, then you will see how slow it is. With me it is usually not in memory because I don't use it that much.
Certainly 5s after a clean install, add another 5s after you have installed a couple of apps.
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- Not liking S-Note? Well, S-pen utility sure doesn't end there. Have 5 drawing apps which I just can't imagine myself using them without the S-Pen (calibrated, by the way, with simple rooting and easy tweaking).
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Although rooting is very easy on this phone, we should have had an already calibrated S-pen. As for alternative apps then yes, they do work. My favourite is Papyrus. However the samsung apps are real memory and CPU hoggers. When I was making my own ROM (Bare Bean) then the S-apps probably took up at least 150Mb... and I ask, on what? Alternative apps from google play take up 10x less space offering better functionality and speed.
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- Assuming you want to live flashing new roms, you might get affected by the unreleasing of exynos source code. I never got affected by it, most surely will never be.
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You will be affected by it in a short while, once you say "hey, I want that feature of Android in Jelly Bean 4.3"
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- And then, there comes the big screen: Gaming, browsing, typing, reading, showing pictures, watching videos... it is like half a tablet in your everyday life, which in terms of use to me changes EVERYTHING.
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Yes, the screen is nice. I must admit that... however that is one of the few things Samsung couldn't break after time with software updates.
I don't know, so many flashing overwhelms me. But I'm in Philz rooted stock spanish 4.1.2 LSZ, without removing any bloatware or anything touched (only rooted to calibrate s-pen and opened multiwindow to any app) and I can assure you my Note goes fluid, with no battery drains and there's no 5 second lag ANYWHERE. No restarting needed.
Sometimes, I get the feeling that removing too many - apparently harmless - stock rom apps and system files, causes unknown side effects. I really encourage rom developers, though - and I will not be praising Samsung work - BUT there's a lot of testing involved in stock roms that always make me more confident about them. In every phone I had, maximum estability and less problems have always been stock roms. Only talking about my own experience.
Good thing about Nexuses: Stock roms are always clean android, directly from OS developer.
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And a new flaming thread just started
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XxPixX said:
Trust me, I wouldn't be too surprised if I has flashed over 300 times on my phone. Maybe even 500. I know how to perform a full wipe and proper install, also I NEVER have a bloated device. i try to keep as little apps as possible (usually about 15 user apps, nearly all from google). What did I realise after about 3 days of use? The phone got very slow and laggy. Not even restarts helped.
Clear the phone out of the memory, then you will see how slow it is. With me it is usually not in memory because I don't use it that much.
Certainly 5s after a clean install, add another 5s after you have installed a couple of apps.
Although rooting is very easy on this phone, we should have had an already calibrated S-pen. As for alternative apps then yes, they do work. My favourite is Papyrus. However the samsung apps are real memory and CPU hoggers. When I was making my own ROM (Bare Bean) then the S-apps probably took up at least 150Mb... and I ask, on what? Alternative apps from google play take up 10x less space offering better functionality and speed.
You will be affected by it in a short while, once you say "hey, I want that feature of Android in Jelly Bean 4.3"
Yes, the screen is nice. I must admit that... however that is one of the few things Samsung couldn't break after time with software updates.
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You should change YOUR Galaxy Note with his Nexus then
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Would such a thread be allowed here? Most other device forums have such a thread and it serves as a general OT thread to cut away the number of created threads. I searched briefly before starting this and did not come across anything similar.
So, let me start off. I am an S5 G900F user since a few weeks back and I'm still running it stock without root. Yes, all the bloat and stuff that comes with but in my defense I'm running Nova Launcher Prime on top.
@iamnotkurtcobain @gee2012 @f0xy We'll continue discussing here gentlemen.
f0xy said:
I've had it since June rocking stock
Don't know what I'm holding out for
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gee2012 said:
You may try XtreStoLite 1.3.8 if you like TW and good camera software, i`am running it atm and its bleeding fast and has many good features and the rom is only 650 MB for me.
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Xtresrolite or cm11.
Those two are the BEST roms for the S5 in my opinion. Fast and slim.
But I'll wait for cm12 now. I'm on cm11 nightly 8.11. and next flash will be cm12.
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I've been thinking about flashing either XtreStoLite or CM myself but I need to give it some more thought.
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Would such a thread be allowed here? Most other device forums have such a thread and it serves as a general OT thread to cut away the number of created threads. I searched briefly before starting this and did not come across anything similar.
So, let me start off. I am an S5 G900F user since a few weeks back and I'm still running it stock without root. Yes, all the bloat and stuff that comes with but in my defense I'm running Nova Launcher Prime on top.
@iamnotkurtcobain @gee2012 @f0xy We'll continue discussing here gentlemen.
I've been thinking about flashing either XtreStoLite or CM myself but I need to give it some more thought.
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They both have their pro`s and cons. CM is not pure AOSP either as isn`t TW as they are both heavily modified. I love the Samsung camera software which makes great pics. The CM ones are ok but in quality their less than sammy`s. The XtreStolite as i have it is 650MB as i have some TW modules flashed that i wanted. Performance is great and batterylife is very good, its about on par for performance but less batterylife on CM. Its all about preference off course but in usability/compatability TW is the winner imo.
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They both have their pro`s and cons. CM is not pure AOSP either as isn`t TW as they are both heavily modified. I love the Samsung camera software which makes great pics. The CM ones are ok but in quality their less than sammy`s. The XtreStolite as i have it is 650MB as i have some TW modules flashed that i wanted. Performance is great and batterylife is very good, its about on par for performance but less batterylife on CM. Its all about preference off course but in usability/compatability TW is the winner imo.
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The Samsung Camera takes greats photos, yes, but the interface seems a little cluttered. It feels as if they wanted to make something good but ended up just packing every possible setting into it with no real logics applied.
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The Samsung Camera takes greats photos, yes, but the interface seems a little cluttered. It feels as if they wanted to make something good but ended up just packing every possible setting into it with no real logics applied.
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True, its a bit chaotic because of the many features they put into it, but Lollipop will bring many changes to TW and its apps/widgets i believe.
Had a quick change of heart. I'm now rooted with TWRP installed.
@@non4 Surprise mate, I'm rooted now
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Would such a thread be allowed here? Most other device forums have such a thread and it serves as a general OT thread to cut away the number of created threads. I searched briefly before starting this and did not come across anything similar.
So, let me start off. I am an S5 G900F user since a few weeks back and I'm still running it stock without root. Yes, all the bloat and stuff that comes with but in my defense I'm running Nova Launcher Prime on top.
@iamnotkurtcobain @gee2012 @f0xy We'll continue discussing here gentlemen.
I've been thinking about flashing either XtreStoLite or CM myself but I need to give it some more thought.
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I still use my s3 too much lol
Will root soon though
Flashed the latest CM nightly and the official GApps package. All I have to say is: Wow. I love CM.
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@@non4 Surprise mate, I'm rooted now
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Congratulations! Soon you will be seeing "kernel is not seandroid enforcing! Set warranty bit: kernel" at every boot . I tried to start a thread like this with the name "General Thread" but it got lost. Glad this one got some attention had some good chats at our s3 thread haha. I hate having a new phone, I reboot and flash so many times then flash again bc I didnt like it or found something else. Mostly kernels, I'm on hacker kernel currently, seems we don't have many kernels. I think Ktweaker is overrated, it has a lot of features but feels a bit bloated and sluggish at times
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Congratulations! Soon you will be seeing "kernel is not seandroid enforcing! Set warranty bit: kernel" at every boot . I tried to start a thread like this with the name "General Thread" but it got lost. Glad this one got some attention had some good chats at our s3 thread haha. I hate having a new phone, I reboot and flash so many times then flash again bc I didnt like it or found something else. Mostly kernels, I'm on hacker kernel currently, seems we don't have many kernels. I think Ktweaker is overrated, it has a lot of features but feels a bit bloated and sluggish at times
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I know, and I'm proud of it. Shows I've tampered with my phone and not staying stock. I should almost frame it and put it on my wall: "The day I finally tampered with my S5". Hahaha.
Not running XtreStoLite, though. I'm full blown CM 11 nightlies. I LOVE vanilla and I can't stress that enough.
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I know, and I'm proud of it. Shows I've tampered with my phone and not staying stock. I should almost frame it and put it on my wall: "The day I finally tampered with my S5". Hahaha.
Not running XtreStoLite, though. I'm full blown CM 11 nightlies. I LOVE vanilla and I can't stress that enough.
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I like the fingerprint too much. I have a need for security and like it to be quick. Its more reliable than face unlock. Plus its one of the unique features that won me over from the z2 which I very nearly got, I wish they would've used open sources. I feel like I'm having a break from CM after using it for so long, touchwiz is forgiving enough to use this time around, and I still get a taste of aosp when I use my nexus 7. Now do I flash L or not? I have a deb and L has no working data. I don't actually use a sim in it hardly it just happens to be the device I could get credit on. My problem is I have OCD and if I know something is not working it will bug the hell out of me even if I don't use it. But im dying to taste lollipop!
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I like the fingerprint too much. I have a need for security and like it to be quick. Its more reliable than face unlock. Plus its one of the unique features that won me over from the z2 which I very nearly got, I wish they would've used open sources. I feel like I'm having a break from CM after using it for so long, touchwiz is forgiving enough to use this time around, and I still get a taste of aosp when I use my nexus 7. Now do I flash L or not? I have a deb and L has no working data. I don't actually use a sim in it hardly it just happens to be the device I could get credit on. My problem is I have OCD and if I know something is not working it will bug the hell out of me even if I don't use it. But im dying to taste lollipop!
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I like the fingerprint thingy too but it's too unreliable for me. I wish it was like TouchID.
I'm like that too, if something doesn't work I'm bothered immensely by it, even if I don't specifically use that feature. Luckily, everything seems to work on CM. Maybe not as well as on TW, but they still work.
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I like the fingerprint thingy too but it's too unreliable for me. I wish it was like TouchID.
I'm like that too, if something doesn't work I'm bothered immensely by it, even if I don't specifically use that feature. Luckily, everything seems to work on CM. Maybe not as well as on TW, but they still work.
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It works well for me after training it a few times. I notice cases with a lip require special technique to get a full swipe. A touch sensor would work better but they avoided getting sued yet again by the control freak idea stealing/patenting that is apple, so they used swipe like the atrix. I would have used that as a court weapon to exploit apples "originality". Get that finger scanner working and I will happily ditch TW
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It works well for me after training it a few times. I notice cases with a lip require special technique to get a full swipe. A touch sensor would work better but they avoided getting sued yet again by the control freak idea stealing/patenting that is apple, so they used swipe like the atrix. I would have used that as a court weapon to exploit apples "originality". Get that finger scanner working and I will happily ditch TW
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Ah, yes. The envious suing child that is Apple. They're not innovators, they block innovation from happening.
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Ah, yes. The envious suing child that is Apple. They're not innovators, they block innovation from happening.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. A work mate I got into our current employer from our previous unreliable job switched from samsung s2 to Iphone 5s and now loves it. He laughs at the size of my s5. Whats most annoying is that he bases his preference on how the phone feels. Put a one m8 or galaxy alpha in his hands please
The only thing that's getting to me is the Knox flag, I know it doesn't hinder warranty in e.u etc etc, but not being able to put the phone fully back to stock is getting to me
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f0xy said:
The only thing that's getting to me is the Knox flag, I know it doesn't hinder warranty in e.u etc etc, but not being able to put the phone fully back to stock is getting to me
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F*** knox
/ proud Knox 0x1 user
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F*** knox
/ proud Knox 0x1 user
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Haha I can see myself being a proud 0x1 user soon when I root
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Screw knox. I'm experiencing some reboots and even happened once before rooting. I have every intention of sending it back with a detailed letter of my usage, mods and findings to prove that my meddling is not to blame. I noticed that undervolting made it 10 times worse, perhaps my device needs higher than stock voltage?? At any rate I love this thing so much I've managed to keep in looking like new in a case. I hate cases, the only blemishes are on the battery door from fiddling with the charging cover. Expecting a slim armor tomorrow because the neo hybrids edges are too "square" making it difficult to hold, hope this case is easier to hold
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Screw knox. I'm experiencing some reboots and even happened once before rooting. I have every intention of sending it back with a detailed letter of my usage, mods and findings to prove that my meddling is not to blame. I noticed that undervolting made it 10 times worse, perhaps my device needs higher than stock voltage?? At any rate I love this thing so much I've managed to keep in looking like new in a case. I hate cases, the only blemishes are on the battery door from fiddling with the charging cover. Expecting a slim armor tomorrow because the neo hybrids edges are too "square" making it difficult to hold, hope this case is easier to hold
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I just have a standard hard rubber case, but I have an excellent scratch resistant screen protector which has so far stood the test of time and stress.
I have a some indents from the time before case but I'd say it was in new shape.
Knox will be 0x1 soon lol
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I haven't seen much threads like this so I think people seem quite okay with samsungs Lollipop, but for me it seems to be even worse than Kitkat. Let me mention some things.
Wifi;
Nothing seems to work even worse than Wifi for me. I've changed some settings on the router, changed the auto change from 2.4 gHz to 5 to manual, yet I get this problem that the internet is terribly slow at some moments, and it stays there for like 30 minutes(Downloading a simple app from the play store like apex goes with 20 kb/s).
Functionality;
Everything pops in place as I was used to touchwiz, yet I miss the ambient display alot! Its the function that was very usefull on the stock Lollipop update, but yet Samsung decided to not add it to their software.
Performance;
Even while Antutu tells me my phone improved with the update, I can't see it back. some things just seem to be sluggish at some moments. Like the well known recent button problem which I don't really want to discuss as it is known. But also just opening the menu just seems to go with around 15-20 fps for me(Which just looks sluggish).
Now that might just be Eye candy, but I've installed "Sky Force" from the play store, and even that lags when too much happends in the game.
Batterylife;
From 7:00 AM to 19:00 PM I loose around 60-65% battery, I use my phone as a media player, got it connected with a Moto 360 and sometimes I play a game on it, check Facebook. Just the normal stuff I guess, yet I think this is way too much for my daily use, Battery stats pulls it on the Android system, and BBS doesn't seem to give clear answers to me, as there are crucial wakelocks happening which cannot be frozen.
The looks;
Now this is just something personal, as Touchwiz always had the look of a toy in a store with a big red button on it saying "Try me", I still do not prefer its new looks. Everything looks flat and all those colours just make me have a rainbow phone or something. Simply do not like it, but again; its personal.
Now where am I comparing this with?
As I've always used the note series, I remember my Note 2 being a beast of a phone, then after that the note 3 was impressive too.
When I had the Note 3, all I heared from people was the device being slow cause of bloatware, which never were a problem to me honostly. In these days Samsungs seems to try to improve that but I can simply not see it.
Also I've installed CM12 on the device, and when I see how butter smooth everything runs, switching from task to task, opening the menu. The expirience just enchances my idea of android. Yet it causes me to be limited with functions I cannot use.
Conclusion;
I always have thought that Samsungs software was ment to work better with their devices, but now I expirience the opposite. CM12 seems to work better for me, but yet I want to make use of the pen, pop up window and some s-health features.
So how do you think about the difference, I am curious how others think about my statements, and how you expirience CM12 <---> Touchwiz.
That's just the love hate relationship that most of us have with touchwiz. Love the extra features it offers over stock but hate the bloated memory hog with inconsistent performance it can be with even the most powerful hardware running it.
My Moto X 2014 lollipop is far smoother, faster, vastly more memory efficient allowing more apps to be open without refreshing content - and this is despite having slower processor, less ram and earlier version of Lollipop (5.0 v 5.0.1)
So yeah touchwiz annoys me, but as you say it offers some great additions over stock android that make you often overlook much of its uglier moments.
My Personal Opinion On This Thread That I'm Not Intrested In Buggy Lollipop Firmware I'm Happy With KK
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It's indeed strange this "update" release. I updated my n910f through Odin to Lollipop and also think to go back to KK again but for now I'm gonna keep Lollipop a little more and hope Samsung briefly release a "definitve" Lollipop update.
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It's indeed strange this "update" release. I updated my n910f through Odin to Lollipop and also think to go back to KK again but for now I'm gonna keep Lollipop a little more and hope Samsung briefly release a "definitve" Lollipop update.
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Armazia said:
I haven't seen much threads like this so I think people seem quite okay with samsungs Lollipop, but for me it seems to be even worse than Kitkat. Let me mention some things.
Wifi;
Nothing seems to work even worse than Wifi for me. I've changed some settings on the router, changed the auto change from 2.4 gHz to 5 to manual, yet I get this problem that the internet is terribly slow at some moments, and it stays there for like 30 minutes(Downloading a simple app from the play store like apex goes with 20 kb/s).
Functionality;
Everything pops in place as I was used to touchwiz, yet I miss the ambient display alot! Its the function that was very usefull on the stock Lollipop update, but yet Samsung decided to not add it to their software.
Performance;
Even while Antutu tells me my phone improved with the update, I can't see it back. some things just seem to be sluggish at some moments. Like the well known recent button problem which I don't really want to discuss as it is known. But also just opening the menu just seems to go with around 15-20 fps for me(Which just looks sluggish).
Now that might just be Eye candy, but I've installed "Sky Force" from the play store, and even that lags when too much happends in the game.
Batterylife;
From 7:00 AM to 19:00 PM I loose around 60-65% battery, I use my phone as a media player, got it connected with a Moto 360 and sometimes I play a game on it, check Facebook. Just the normal stuff I guess, yet I think this is way too much for my daily use, Battery stats pulls it on the Android system, and BBS doesn't seem to give clear answers to me, as there are crucial wakelocks happening which cannot be frozen.
The looks;
Now this is just something personal, as Touchwiz always had the look of a toy in a store with a big red button on it saying "Try me", I still do not prefer its new looks. Everything looks flat and all those colours just make me have a rainbow phone or something. Simply do not like it, but again; its personal.
Now where am I comparing this with?
As I've always used the note series, I remember my Note 2 being a beast of a phone, then after that the note 3 was impressive too.
When I had the Note 3, all I heared from people was the device being slow cause of bloatware, which never were a problem to me honostly. In these days Samsungs seems to try to improve that but I can simply not see it.
Also I've installed CM12 on the device, and when I see how butter smooth everything runs, switching from task to task, opening the menu. The expirience just enchances my idea of android. Yet it causes me to be limited with functions I cannot use.
Conclusion;
I always have thought that Samsungs software was ment to work better with their devices, but now I expirience the opposite. CM12 seems to work better for me, but yet I want to make use of the pen, pop up window and some s-health features.
So how do you think about the difference, I am curious how others think about my statements, and how you expirience CM12 <---> Touchwiz.
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Hey dude!!
Nice work here.
Please, can you tell me where did you find the CM 12 to our Note 4 N910C?
I´d like to install, but i can´t find to download.
Thank you!
renanterzi said:
Hey dude!!
Nice work here.
Please, can you tell me where did you find the CM 12 to our Note 4 N910C?
I´d like to install, but i can´t find to download.
Thank you!
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I think there is no release of it for the N910C, just for the N910F(international)
Armazia said:
I think there is no release of it for the N910C, just for the N910F(international)
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Ok man.
Thanks any way!
Armazia said:
I think there is no release of it for the N910C, just for the N910F(international)
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It's also available for the 910T and 910W8
renanterzi said:
Ok man.
Thanks any way!
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Exynos variants very early builds are being developed by RaymanFX, but we're still far from daily-driver level.
KK is stable for me. I will wait for few more months until bugs have been sorted out.
Note 4
Fair to say I'm behind the times, but better late than never.
A new N910F is on its way to me. I used a Nexus 5 for the last three years and have zero knowledge of the Note 4, but I'd like if possible to achieve a stock/standard Android GUI, hopefully Nougat, though I assume that would lose the Note specialised stuff like the pen functions and one-handed features. How does that work, and what are your general recommendations.
Please put me on the right track folks.
thanks
Malc.
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Fair to say I'm behind the times, but better late than never.
A new N910F is on its way to me. I used a Nexus 5 for the last three years and have zero knowledge of the Note 4, but I'd like if possible to achieve a stock/standard Android GUI, hopefully Nougat, though I assume that would lose the Note specialised stuff like the pen functions and one-handed features. How does that work, and what are your general recommendations.
Please put me on the right track folks.
thanks
Malc.
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Try the stock first. You might surprise yourself, if not then proceed to custom.
(In my case I have it for a year now and haven't even rooted. All testing is done only in my old S4)
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Try the stock first. You might surprise yourself, if not then proceed to custom.
(In my case I have it for a year now and haven't even rooted. All testing is done only in my old S4)
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That's useful advice because I was taking it for granted I wouldn't like it, based on what I've seen of my wife's S4 mini (family resemblance assumed)
I'll certainly give it a go as it comes.
Thanks.
Be sure to update before using. It gets a lot better with latest builds. I mean a lot!
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Not sure updares alawys get it better. I updated to 6.0, but soon went back to 5.1.1, much better in all aspects on my N4
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Not sure updares alawys get it better. I updated to 6.0, but soon went back to 5.1.1, much better in all aspects on my N4
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Yeah, some are facing issues like that for snapdragon versions. =/
In my case with exynos I felt a strong upgrade in performance and battery from 5.1.1 to 6.0.1.
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Yeah, some are facing issues like that for snapdragon versions. =/
In my case with exynos I felt a strong upgrade in performance and battery from 5.1.1 to 6.0.1.
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I was assuming the N910F would be Snapdragon, but I'm finding confusing information. Does anyone here know ? (rhetoric)
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I was assuming the N910F would be Snapdragon, but I'm finding confusing information. Does anyone here know ? (rhetoric)
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Ahhh
Found it here.
Model numbers are listed with their CPUs.
Use the latest stock Marshmallow first. That's the most stable out there anyway. And no, MM is hell lot better than LP. You could go for them AOSP ROM, but the camera quality will be degraded, keep that in mind, along with the other things too, things which people generally don't care to mention, the fine details, like call quality, BT strength etc. Use Xposed too. Can't even recommend you a custom kernel either! Try Emotion kernel probably, you will get features like DT2W, boost speaker volume etc. It will take you really a lot of time to get used with TouchWiz especially if you are coming from a Nexus 5. Had the phone, it was a beautiful piece of software, if the hardware weren't nightmarish for me probably I would have still kept it.
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Use the latest stock Marshmallow first. That's the most stable out there anyway. And no, MM is hell lot better than LP. You could go for them AOSP ROM, but the camera quality will be degraded, keep that in mind, along with the other things too, things which people generally don't care to mention, the fine details, like call quality, BT strength etc. Use Xposed too. Can't even recommend you a custom kernel either! Try Emotion kernel probably, you will get features like DT2W, boost speaker volume etc. It will take you really a lot of time to get used with TouchWiz especially if you are coming from a Nexus 5. Had the phone, it was a beautiful piece of software, if the hardware weren't nightmarish for me probably I would have still kept it.
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and the lack of many functions based on the s pen
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ithehappy said:
Use the latest stock Marshmallow first. That's the most stable out there anyway. And no, MM is hell lot better than LP. You could go for them AOSP ROM, but the camera quality will be degraded, keep that in mind, along with the other things too, things which people generally don't care to mention, the fine details, like call quality, BT strength etc. Use Xposed too. Can't even recommend you a custom kernel either! Try Emotion kernel probably, you will get features like DT2W, boost speaker volume etc. It will take you really a lot of time to get used with TouchWiz especially if you are coming from a Nexus 5. Had the phone, it was a beautiful piece of software, if the hardware weren't nightmarish for me probably I would have still kept it.
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This looks like great advice thanks. (Glad I came here)
I found this interesting tips&tricks vid while waiting for it to arrive (couple of days yet) - The stock phone works way better than I expected
Hey guys,
This is kind of an odd question. I'm having issues with wifi while updating my apps on my 3T. Anyone else seen this issue before or know what the root cause might be (or a possible solution)?
It seems to be only when updating my apps though. Otherwise, the wifi seems to be pretty fast, the speed test does about 30+ megs/s (not great but not terrible) but when I update/download any apps through the Google play store, it downloads at about 50 kb/s, so it's taking forever. With it being a new phone, I have a LOT to download as well...
What's interesting is if I put it into mobile data mode, it'll download at 300k+/s so it definitely seems to be related to that.
I've read a few forums saying it could be ISP related, others that say it could be related to v 1.3.4 (which I believe is what I'm using), etc. I thought it would be worth bouncing it off the xda community though as I've always had pretty good luck with xda.
Any help you guys can give me would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!
I had the same issues but on different devices and ROMs. With AOSPextended I don't have them. Don't know to what they are related though.
Had them with stock Google Apps and on third party ROMs I always use openGapps but have the problems only with some ROMs.
Would love to have an answer too.
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What's interesting is I haven't even rooted it yet... Everything is stock. Overall, I love everything else about the phone so far but this 1 day setup is likely going to turn into 2-3 at this rate. If this is just the way it is for now, I can deal with it but is definitely like to know the root cause and if there's a way around it down the road. This is a pretty disappointing first experience with the phone though.
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This is a pretty disappointing first experience with the phone though.
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As I wrote: it hasn't something to do with the phone. Had the same experience with other Phones like my XIAOMI mi5 and Mi MIX as well as with my ZUK Z2 Pro too. It doesn't happen with some ROMs though. This lets me assume it's something within the codebase many use.
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Sorry, I think my last post wasn't clear. My experience with this delay hasn't existed on previous phones but that's not to say it's a problem specific to this phone (as you said, it seems to be something that effects different phones with different ROMs). So I understand it's not necessarily a 3T problem, just a disappointing and unedited experience since I got the phone (not necessarily because of this phone).
Thanks for putting my mind at ease that this is (at least somewhat) normal!
I don't have the 3T but on my phone it helped to first set the time manually, reboot, set it back to automatic, reboot again and then it downloaded at normal speed via wifi. Don't ask me why.