endless disappointment and exasperation with T-Mo. * - T-Mobile LG G4

Once a fine service before it became the un-carrier, T-Mo tech support is utterly useless.
We've had t-Mo since 2011 1st with HTC Sens, then I added an M7.*
For the last year plus the Sens has been having issues with WiFi Calling. *I've tried everything that T-Mo suggests while still paying for inconsistent service at home because T-Mo has no coverage here.
I've changed ISPs and routers and now have a CellSpot that only the M7 ever worked well with.
I've restarted, changed SIMs and have just bought 2 new LG G4s for $900. *Still no WiFi Calling and endlessly trying the same fixes with T-Mo tech. *
They don't seem to save notes or read them from one tech to the next and expunge them at random, so no one can follow the trail.
The Sens had W006.5 errors and the LGs have REG99 errors.
"We need you to be on 4G signal to get the SIM OTA" *Never comes.
"We need you to be next to the cellspot when the OTA is sent".
Uh ....... what for if the WiFi Calling doesn't work consistently anyway?
"Provisioning can take up to 2 hours then you should see a text update "Welcome to T-Mobile".
And every tech person I speak with has a different method, none of which have worked so far
I think T-Mo is where ATT was when they first got the iPhone. Utterly overwhelmed and able to deal with the technology at cost only to the customer.
Long story short, if you aren't in T-Mos 4G service area, WiFi Calling, once quite reliable, no longer is.
Disappointed.
I hate the thought of going back to the overpriced service of VzW, but at least I'd have service ......even at home, without WiFi.

I just started getting REG99: Unable to Connect errors after updating my G4 to version 10n... got a new SIM card, got an "update" sent to the SIM card twice (never got the "Welcome to T-Mobile" text so I have no idea if it even worked), factory-reset twice, and now T-Force told me to wait for Samsung to release an update at the end of the month. Yes, T-Force told me to wait for Samsung to update my LG phone. Sigh.
EDIT: NOT T-MOBILE'S FAULT! Installing Xposed broke WiFi Calling. Uninstalling it fixed WiFi Calling instantly.

disappointing it is. I had a dozen calls with tier 3 reps. Helpful, but exasperating.
I finally did a factory reset the other day. So far, all issues are fixed. Knock glass and plastic bits.

Your story sounds so much like mine that I had to comment. I purchased my LG G4 07/22/2015 from Swappa.Com and it was a brand new, LG G4 in a sealed box. I have spoken to at least 5 TMO service techs about the high battery usage, slow charging, phone heating up, calls ending abruptly, and garbled conversations after about 15 minutes of being on the phone. Their last suggestion was to send it in to LG. I have done that 3 times now! The first time LG said they replaced the camera! (Really?) for problems with the phone/modem? The second time LG couldn't find anything wrong, and "cleaned" it. But I agree with you 100% on how the asswipes at TMO all have different answers to the same questions/problems. Worse, LG has no answers and they are the manufacturer.
To make matters worse, TMO have adopted an attitude of "It's an LG Problem. Send it to them." Especially since I am Pre-paid month to month and purchased the phone outright from a 3rd party. They REALLY don't give a s**t!
1. Told I would need to have service for 40 days before they could unlock.
2. Told they could activate and unlock and that they would (but it didn't happen.)
3. Told by CSR that I had to have $100 either spent or in a TMO account before they
could unlock, and that this policy was in effect for 4 months.
4. Told my Tiffany Clover - Office of the President - that she would get my phone unlocked (never happened.)

factory reset
yea, the new un-carrier is becoming (surprise) another carrier.
try a factory reset from the settings menu.
I wiped everything, including the SD. Cleaned my mess up ....... so far.
Batt drains way slower, charges way faster, even from my Mac. And is in general pretty stable. Calls have been fine even in NYC where T-Mo def doesn't have enough bandwidth.
T-Mobile is a little bit wild west.
There is still some dumb stuff, but I think that may be LGs implementation of Lolli 5.1.
So far, I'm not using their Launcher (Apex) or lock screen (Next) and even that has caused no issues.
It's still a beast in my pocket. I really wanted to get the M9, but the deal was too good and HTC is having fiscal issues.
Where is the City of Beer? Milwaukee, Asheville, Boston, Paris?

I couldn't do a wipe because the system failed during a re-flash and left me with a 10n bootloader and a 10h system file. I had previously moved up to Micromod777's xtreme 2.0 which is h81110n. I had some problems with ads and extraneous apps on my phone. I did not think it through far enough when I reflashed with stock h81110h.
The phone was hard bricked and I had to send it back to LG. Here's hoping they just reflash it and send it on it's way back...
From my point of view: the City of Beer is Milwaukee, and it's not just because I live here.
A number of years ago, I went to Hooligan's and joined the "Around the World in 80 Beers" Club. There are a number of clubs like this in Milwaukee.
Finished drinking up the 80 beers in about a month. Got a t-shirt and my name on the wall. Plus, I actually learned about beers from other countries. For me, German Weiss Beer is the grand finale.

I'm a Belgian fan. Use to drink german in my ut. And many American crafts. Asheville has lots of craft brewing going on, if you ever get there.
Hope LG flash and return.

Lg g4 restored back from limbo
metropical said:
I'm a Belgian fan. Use to drink german in my ut. And many American crafts. Asheville has lots of craft brewing going on, if you ever get there.
Hope LG flash and return.
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09/12/2015 : I had an email from LG that says my phone was fixed and is on it's way back to me.
Estimated Delivery via Fedex is Tuesday, 09/15/2015 and NO CHARGE!
I am about this.
However, there is a BIG DISCONNECT between what I know was done to the phone and what
the RA ticket shows: "Defect: Power-Completely off", <--- not what I said or what was wrong AND
"Repair Results: Power Management IC(PMIC)" <---this I believe, they probably shorted the proper leads
and that restored the IC(PMIC) and then reflashed the factory ROM. Fact is the unit was ON with no screen
functions available.

sounds good. Hope it's vastly better

I also had the REG99 error, so I called TMO and they re-submitted my issue to engineers twice. My phone stopped getting REG99 as much, but now I see an ER81 error. Granted, I got nothing but wifi calling errors when I was on the GoGo inflight text with Alaska Air just last week.

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I also had the REG99 error, so I called TMO and they re-submitted my issue to engineers twice. My phone stopped getting REG99 as much, but now I see an ER81 error. Granted, I got nothing but wifi calling errors when I was on the GoGo inflight text with Alaska Air just last week.
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Xposed installed?

jamesd1085 said:
Xposed installed?
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No sir

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No sir
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Just checking...xposed breaks wifi calling on 10n and we have posted the issue to rovo89 github in hopes he can fix it...good luck

Just so you guys know, it's not an LG issue. My Note 4 has similar issues. For me the REG99 error is only when I'm connected to unprotected WiFi networks that are slow. Also VoLTE is causing me major issues with Comcast Xfinity. Whenever it's on, I get super slow internet speeds for anything Google related. Once I turn VoLTE off, WiFi calling works, and no more slow Google related apps or web browsing.
To the OP what is your current internet provider?

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Any one else having issues on the network

So my phone is having issues connecting to sprints network both cdma and lte, it will not make calls, and it will not recive or send texts, and when it does text or recive its a large amount of texts that were sent hours ago, is anybody else having this issue, sprint gave me the run around for two days saying it was the network, and then today (which is the 15th day) decided it was my device...HTC wants me to send the device into the repair center, and im royally pissed because I feel like sprint gave me the run around on this to avoid giving me another phone, so I am trying to figue out if any one else is having issues on the mobile network
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So my phone is having issues connecting to sprints network both cdma and lte, it will not make calls, and it will not recive or send texts, and when it does text or recive its a large amount of texts that were sent hours ago, is anybody else having this issue, sprint gave me the run around for two days saying it was the network, and then today (which is the 15th day) decided it was my device...HTC wants me to send the device into the repair center, and im royally pissed because I feel like sprint gave me the run around on this to avoid giving me another phone, so I am trying to figue out if any one else is having issues on the mobile network
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Had a friends M8 start acting up the last couple days. I hard reset it twice today. Kept jumping in and out of roam. Wouldn't take a profile update. Sat next to my M8 mine was stable. Told him to take it to Sprint, of course he also gets the run around at Sprint. Lady at the Sprint store tells him it's acting up because he doesn't have a sim and he needs to put the sim back in. (I'm guessing she ejected the SD slot and nothing was there). They wouldn't do anything for him. It started working again when he got back, texted me tonight saying signal going in & out again. Told him to try another Sprint store or bring it back. They usually won't swap anything unless they can replicate the issue. I told him to try another store. This is why I refuse to go to the Sprint store unless I absolutely have to. Not only has the network been piss poor for almost a year, the store employees don't deserve minimum wage. If I would have been the one that went today, I may have erupted at the store when the lady tries to tell me my phone is missing a sim card which I know LTE won't work at all if a sim is missing. Not to mention I have no reason to take the sim out. My guess he has a bad radio and phone needs to be swapped. Sounds like you have a similar problem. Since I had my m8 to sit next to it side by side, it's pretty easy to troubleshoot. As much as it sucks going to the store, try another store or go back again hold your ground. I would hard reset everything just to make sure as they will prob make you do that anyway. Oh & not only did they tell him his sim card was missing, they said they don't have any to give him. The sprint store is absolutely worthless.
yeah, mine was working fine across town, but it stopped when i got home, so i suspect it may be the tower 2 blocks away
First phone seemed fine and I was told it was a network issue. I finally got them to switch out my phone and this one worked perfect until it forced a prl update, I wonder if it's not somehow related like that prl issue with the evolte. Has there been any actual updates to prl?
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First phone seemed fine and I was told it was a network issue. I finally got them to switch out my phone and this one worked perfect until it forced a prl update, I wonder if it's not somehow related like that prl issue with the evolte. Has there been any actual updates to prl?
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I argued my way up the sprint tech support tiers (more like i told them i want level 3) got the guy to check the tower that gives me service, and got the statement "how has no one else reported this" the tower is only working at 50-60 percent and having antenna issues...He is giving me a credit everyday they dont have it repaired, and giving me follow up calls until they fix it
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I argued my way up the sprint tech support tiers (more like i told them i want level 3) got the guy to check the tower that gives me service, and got the statement "how has no one else reported this" the tower is only working at 50-60 percent and having antenna issues...He is giving me a credit everyday they dont have it repaired, and giving me follow up calls until they fix it
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That's awesome!
Curious if I should call Sprint since I've been having to constantly "update" the profile since I got the phone in order to receive texts in a timely manner sometimes. Though, it seems to be okay for now anyway since the last time I forced a profile/prl update with ##SCRTN#.
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That's awesome!
Curious if I should call Sprint since I've been having to constantly "update" the profile since I got the phone in order to receive texts in a timely manner sometimes. Though, it seems to be okay for now anyway since the last time I forced a profile/prl update with ##SCRTN#.
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I would call sprint, I think some area is the towers, but some peoples issues are related to the device, I would drive around until you are well out of range of the tower where you're having the issue, and see if you still have issues. or see if you are getting any mip errors on your phone
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I would call sprint, I think some area is the towers, but some peoples issues are related to the device, I would drive around until you are well out of range of the tower where you're having the issue, and see if you still have issues. or see if you are getting any mip errors on your phone
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I'm not so sure it's the device since it seems to be perfectly capable of everything working fluidly when I'm not at home. But, never know.
Where does one view MIP errors? Nothing has popped up on the screen and they have to be logged somewhere.
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I'm not so sure it's the device since it seems to be perfectly capable of everything working fluidly when I'm not at home. But, never know.
Where does one view MIP errors? Nothing has popped up on the screen and they have to be logged somewhere.
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It would pop up in your status bar with a giant warning triangle (like you get for roaming) and would say "error could not connect to wireless data network"
I get that warning quite often.
Having issues as well. Contacted Sprint. Them dudes told me that it's this Connection Optimizer setting that's ****in it up. Psh whatever...still having the same problems. I'm just hoping it works itself out because idk how I feel about going back to the iPhone 5s right now :/
What they had me do was the hands free activation and then PRL & profile update. I've done this a couple of times now and nothing different has happened. I also just reset my phone for the **** of it (I say that because I knew before doing the reset that it wouldn't do anything).
So yeah, just playing the waiting game and hoping it fixes itself. But I'm starting to doubt that it will. Idk if it's a network issue or not. It's not affecting any other phones around me but didn't someoen say only a few phones have the Sprint Spark? So I guess I need to go through the GSV threads and see what's going on there. If they're having the same issues then I'll feel better. If not, then it's the phone >.<
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Having issues as well. Contacted Sprint. Them dudes told me that it's this Connection Optimizer setting that's ****in it up. Psh whatever...still having the same problems. I'm just hoping it works itself out because idk how I feel about going back to the iPhone 5s right now :/
What they had me do was the hands free activation and then PRL & profile update. I've done this a couple of times now and nothing different has happened. I also just reset my phone for the **** of it (I say that because I knew before doing the reset that it wouldn't do anything).
So yeah, just playing the waiting game and hoping it fixes itself. But I'm starting to doubt that it will. Idk if it's a network issue or not. It's not affecting any other phones around me but didn't someoen say only a few phones have the Sprint Spark? So I guess I need to go through the GSV threads and see what's going on there. If they're having the same issues then I'll feel better. If not, then it's the phone >.<[/QUOTE
keep track of the number of days its been down, and call sprint so you can get an ac**** credit for the days its not working right, I have already vowed to annoy the holy living crap out of the cs department until they fix it, Im unemployed so I sit around the house filling out job apps all day so its something else to do lol.
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Just curious everyone what color and where did y'all purchase your M8's
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Sounds like we are all having VERY similar issues.
Mine is Gun Metal, bought Online from Sprint first day. S/N starts with FA.
I agree with some ones comment above the problems started after Updating Profile/PRL.
I actually got LTE running today. But when I got home 3G won't stay up. Bounces between 1x, 3G, 1X Roam and 3G Roam.
I have a replacement coming tomorrow and I am going to try Updating Profile/PRL/Activate/Factory Reset multiple times AFTER I see it working.
To see what breaks it. Because I rather break it again than wait two months and get screwed.
I suspect the Sprint network is not quite ready for these phones. You might be ok today, but not tomorrow.
I also suspect the Connections Optimizer / Extreme Power Saver possibly being the culprit.
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Sounds like we are all having VERY similar issues.
Mine is Gun Metal, bought Online from Sprint first day. S/N starts with FA.
I agree with some ones comment above the problems started after Updating Profile/PRL.
I actually got LTE running today. But when I got home 3G won't stay up. Bounces between 1x, 3G, 1X Roam and 3G Roam.
I have a replacement coming tomorrow and I am going to try Updating Profile/PRL/Activate/Factory Reset multiple times AFTER I see it working.
To see what breaks it. Because I rather break it again than wait two months and get screwed.
I suspect the Sprint network is not quite ready for these phones. You might be ok today, but not tomorrow.
I also suspect the Connections Optimizer / Extreme Power Saver possibly being the culprit.
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Yeah, tech support and CS want to try an airave in my home, but that makes zero since, seeing as I wasnt having issues until last Wednesday, and up until then my phone was working just fine...
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Yeah, tech support and CS want to try an airave in my home, but that makes zero since, seeing as I wasnt having issues until last Wednesday, and up until then my phone was working just fine...
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I'm starting to wonder that somehow the phones are ahead of the towers in programming, once you did an update profile, especially with the OTA Firmware (or Harman).
Because my phone runs great in some areas. But just runs terrible in other areas that used to be ok a week ago.
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I'm starting to wonder that somehow the phones are ahead of the towers in programming, once you did an update profile, especially with the OTA Firmware (or Harman).
Because my phone runs great in some areas. But just runs terrible in other areas that used to be ok a week ago.
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Its possible, some one else said sprint scrwed up the provisioning on the m8 and the s5, and so some phones are having issues until they can get it sorted out
Any eta for the fix bc cdma only isn't fixing it. Some calls go straight to vm till I make a call for them to come in. This is frustrating!
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Any eta for the fix bc cdma only isn't fixing it. Some calls go straight to vm till I make a call for them to come in. This is frustrating!
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not that I have heard of, I am going to take the airave if they let me have it for free, since it seems my phone works fine when i go out of the house, which is rarely
Okay so I kept going to different Sprint stores and one guy said something that sounds believable (because I heard about it online)
He said that it's really the Sprint Spark that's messing up. There's an issue with the hand off. Since there's only one band in use at a time and Sprint's LTE can't handle voice...whenever you want to deal with voice you must go from LTE to CDMA. But he said there's an issue with our phone that's not allowing that to happen correctly. I was googling the **** and I found other people talking about this too. They were saying that the fix is really on Sprint to update their **** so that there's Sprint Spark everywhere.
If what these people are saying is true, then I'm sure I'm ****ed. And I think they're right to some degree. There's an issue with the hand off. In my house I have a weak LTE Spark connection. If I go into airplane mode and then come out of it, I can connect to Spark. But then it drops and everything stops working. If I go downtown I have a strong Spark connection and it seems like everything with my phone is fine. If I just drive from my place to downtown, I experience the drop. It's ridiculous.
So I can see how that's all true. But I'm really hoping it's not because if it is then I can't use this phone for a while. I kinda feel like I wasted money on it...this single band at a time **** is dumb. Yeah it may be easy on the battery life...but it's not helping with phone usage. Sprint wasn't ready for this :/
Here's link to what I was reading:
https://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/154841?start=45&tstart=0

Retitled. How to hose your phone in 35 easy steps. :)

To be fair to HTC/Sprint I retitled this. As the phone is not representative of a normal M8 (either by hardware or corrupted/miss programming).
Long story.
If you want the short version, "This phone sucks" (and by the way so does the S5).
Here is the long version.
Bought the phone first day.
HTC Unlocked and Rooted it as soon at it was available. Applied S-OFF as soon as it was available.
I had not much time to play with it and stayed on Stock and have WIFI on full time which is used at work and home.
Couple days ago I decided to try some ROMs (being very patient for things to mature a bit). I tried Barebones, pretty good ROM. Note I had "dirty flashed it".
Then I took my first long trip since I got the phone. 100 miles into the boonies.
It popped up "Roaming Guard every 2 minutes", every call. But it was still running ok.
I had forgot to shut the roaming guard off (or it was locked out by the time I though of it).
This is a known issue and happened on M7as well. Most reliable way to deal with it, is to full wipe in order to disable it. (I tried all the tricks).
Well at this time OMJ released his "Harman" ROM and Firmware.
Well I guess it's a good time to start clean, wipe and switch to OMJ's Harmon ROM (and firmware) (whom I've been a loyal customer of)
So this stupid Roaming Guard thing keeps coming and going as I sort out which ROM I want, restoring things with TB etc.
But now, my phone is "stuck is 1X". WTF. And if it does occasionally show 3G as soon as I use it, it drops out completely or reverts to 1X.
So now I think I hosed something really bad. Can't get 3G at home or work. My wifes HTC One M7 is fine (running OMJ's BadBoys ROM)
Updated Profiles, played with PRL's.
So I put it all back to factory (except S-ON) and used the HBOOT that hides that's it's S-OFF.
And flashed the closest Stock ROM I could find (which so happened to get no Data or Voice at all). Perfect !!
Then took it to sprint store, and it was a sharp kid and he said it was rooted and nicely handed it back. He suggested I add T.E.P. and "try again".
Well I figured I'll have to S-ON it. And stopped in another store to added T.E.P. just in case. I had like 2 days left.
So I was gonna go home S-ON it and go to another Sprint "repair" Store but decided I really needed to get to some other commitments.
So I restored a backup and on the road and the phone was back to "Normal" except for the stupid Roaming Guard thing. WTF.
Then it hit me. The new ROM from OMJ was telling me what my REAL network was doing and the stock ROM was lying through it's teeth.
I'm well aware of Developer ROM's displaying "1x" when it sees 1x but after being on the stock ROM (with WIFI on), I kind of forgot about it.
And I was never clear what the "New" Spark Icons were really saying anyway (with WIFI ON or OFF).
So the truth is this thing has been running like crap since day 1. And I believe even worse since the first OTA firmware update.
I started researching options to get the Galaxy S5. Turns out the reviews are worse on the S5 than the M8.
Then I kept finding threads like this one.
https://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/155517
Maybe I have a bad phone. Maybe I'll just smash the thing and try another one.
I miss my M7. Luckily my wife has it.
I had to get my first M8 replaced because it was roaming all the time. My second one is much better . Sounds like you have a bad one like my first one. I returned mine within the first 14 days to get a no-questions-asked replacement for full refund.
Uhh.. No problems here. Sounds like a defective device to me. They won't swap it where you rooted it, TEP will cost you a deductible and they'll send you a refurbished model. Shouldn't of rooted so quickly.
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I don't understand if u don't want the roaming guard to sound just uncheck it on the settings. If you have trouble with your settings dial *#*#4636#*#* and select phone information scroll down and select the option cdma+evdo/lte then reboot and check if that help. Then again u should be aware of this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2701255 just in case u r not.
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I don't understand if u don't want the roaming guard to sound just uncheck it on the settings. If you have trouble with your settings dial *#*#4636#*#* and select phone information scroll down and select the option cdma+evdo/lte then reboot and check if that help
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Not so easy to shut Roaming Guard off. I'll bet if most people look right now, You'd find it greyed out.
I just completely wiped my phone again. Ran RUU on it. Immediately Disabled the Guard. And a half hour later it's all locked out again (but it's locked out disabled).
I don't know what causes it to lock.
But you do have to do it immediately after a wipe.
I'll check out the Options #*# option you suggested. Thanks. I remember that being mentioned before.
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Uhh.. No problems here. Sounds like a defective device to me. They won't swap it where you rooted it, TEP will cost you a deductible and they'll send you a refurbished model. Shouldn't of rooted so quickly.
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I tend to root as soon as it's available. In case an OTA comes out and lose the ability to ever do it. I also like to see if I can root it with in the 14 days, because if something does go wrong I can swap it. I can make it factory looking again. I just didn't want to bother in case they could fix it, because it felt like just a programming issue. I knew I was taking a chance when I brought it in like that. I've brought in MUCH more hacked phones and walked out with a brand new one, with no T.E.P.
I'm still not sure if this is a "Broken" phone. It definitely won't pull in weak 3G like my M7 did.
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I'm still not sure if this is a "Broken" phone.
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It probably is.
Fwiw, I've never seen my roaming guard settings greyed out.
As a sprint tech I can tell you 100% of the M8's that have come in to my store that I've replaced have been better the second time around. Seems like there were some lemons in the first batch. You'd better take it in to get exchanged or break it to get a replacement soon(lol) because as of today we were ordering new replacements, soon it'll be refurbs once there is stock in the warehouse.
I also noticed the serial number on my original M8 started with FA, while my current one starts with HT. Could be that ones from a specific location were bad.
There is problem in this phone. I don't think why you face this type of problem?
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As a sprint tech I can tell you 100% of the M8's that have come in to my store that I've replaced have been better the second time around. Seems like there were some lemons in the first batch. You'd better take it in to get exchanged or break it to get a replacement soon(lol) because as of today we were ordering new replacements, soon it'll be refurbs once there is stock in the warehouse.
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Thanks for the heads up. Hopefully I won't have to "break it". I never have, but I would if it came down to it.
I was thinking that they are not refurbished yet as well.
I'm not convinced 100% it's broken yet.
I did notice in a breakdown of the phone, that they do have little spring loaded contacts to the Antenna's, which have been a problem on past phones. And that might be all it is.
I have $18.00 glass screen installed on it as well. And it's installed PERFECTLY. Chances of that happening again are slim
I really would like to get this phone to work.
That thread I posted, folks got second phones and still had issues.
I think it has to do with this whole Spark thing.
You know I wouldn't be rooting and wanting the option of Roam only etc. if the Sprint Network wasn't so bad in the first place.
The only thing that keeps me is the SERO plan. But that is wearing thin. Everyone of my co-workers gets 10-40x faster data rates than I do.
AT&T or Verizon.
Sprint better get their act together.
Oh and the store I did go to. They just fired all their Techs 3 weeks ago. It used to be a good store to go to.
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It probably is.
Fwiw, I've never seen my roaming guard settings greyed out.
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Me neither.
Should definitely look into getting it replaced, though.
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I also noticed the serial number on my original M8 started with FA, while my current one starts with HT. Could be that ones from a specific location were bad.
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My M8's serial number starts with FA and so far, the only real issues I've had are sending/receiving texts at home. Sometimes, they come in delayed but I attribute that to the network moreso than the phone. Though, updating the profile/prl seems to fix it. Forcing the phone to re-provision while on CDMA rather than LTE seems to also keep it from happening sooner.
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Thanks for the heads up. Hopefully I won't have to "break it". I never have, but I would if it came down to it.
I was thinking that they are not refurbished yet as well.
I'm not convinced 100% it's broken yet.
I did notice in a breakdown of the phone, that they do have little spring loaded contacts to the Antenna's, which have been a problem on past phones. And that might be all it is.
I have $18.00 glass screen installed on it as well. And it's installed PERFECTLY. Chances of that happening again are slim
I really would like to get this phone to work.
That thread I posted, folks got second phones and still had issues.
I think it has to do with this whole Spark thing.
You know I wouldn't be rooting and wanting the option of Roam only etc. if the Sprint Network wasn't so bad in the first place.
The only thing that keeps me is the SERO plan. But that is wearing thin. Everyone of my co-workers gets 10-40x faster data rates than I do.
AT&T or Verizon.
Sprint better get their act together.
Oh and the store I did go to. They just fired all their Techs 3 weeks ago. It used to be a good store to go to.
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Yeah lucky for me I dont work at a corporate store lol. They did a mass layoff of techs in corporate stores.
No problems here either
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I'm curious now if my phone is bad or its network related. I seem to drop/miss calls quite often. I just checked my serial number and it starts with FA as well.
I'm wondering if these phones were all built in different locations. I have a gold one from best buy and this thing works like a champ. I get similar cell signal compared to my s3. Even at my in laws house which just got lte a few months back and my brother in laws house where I get no signal on my s3, it acted the same with no signal. He lives in a secluded area. I'm reading a lot of negative things about phones bought thru Sprint being problematic. Haven't read anything about the gold best buy phones acting up. What do you all think could these phones be built in totally different locations?
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Maybe not different locations, but definitely different batches. Some could have subpar antennas.
I believe the serial number indicates the distribution center from which the device was produced. I saw mention of it in the Firewater thread when people were trying to figure out why it worked on some devices and not on others.
Serial number for my phone started with FA. Ordered it after watching the unveiling, got it two days later.
Haven't had a single problem with the phone as far as software, and no hardware issues like defects.
Guess I'm just lucky.
Knock in wood taking the firmware update on H/K ROM doesn't change things down the line.
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I'm wondering if these phones were all built in different locations. I have a gold one from best buy and this thing works like a champ. I get similar cell signal compared to my s3. Even at my in laws house which just got lte a few months back and my brother in laws house where I get no signal on my s3, it acted the same with no signal. He lives in a secluded area. I'm reading a lot of negative things about phones bought thru Sprint being problematic. Haven't read anything about the gold best buy phones acting up. What do you all think could these phones be built in totally different locations?
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I have a gold one as well and also see none of these issues. It also seems to be comparable to my S3's reception.

[Q] How many HK owners are having data/voice issues?

A simple "yes" or "no" and where you are located should suffice.
Spent a total of 5 hours with Sprint between the phone and corporate stores since the first day this came out and today I was finally told the truth that all Sprint HK M8 owners are facing data issues.
To be specific(D.C. is a spark area) Every 15 minutes or so, my data/voice will drop regardless of what I am doing and pick back up anywhere between 1x and lte/spark 3-4 minutes later like clock work.
The lady at the corporate store let me see how my phone was in the red(see last pic). I went back to stock unrooted. Downloaded the .15 update. Updated profiles, PRLs, ##72786# data resets constantly and this problem still exists. The best that any representative could do is credit me $30 for my troubles(bull ****). Tried to get a replacement handset and they told me no. No one has given me any sort of "this will be fixed soon". Its always "well.....profile/prl/data updates cant fix this so a technician will look at your local tower"
I'm trying to get a rough estimate as to how many people are having the same problems
Here are pics for reference. This all happened with in 2 hours and continues to happen
http://imgur.com/a/5GeWu
Don't be surprised if you see this on other forums. Kind of going every where to see how many are having issues.
It's your phone. You need a replacement. I had the same issues, went into a store. They replaced my phone. No more issues.
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It's your phone. You need a replacement. I had the same issues, went into a store. They replaced my phone. No more issues.
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That was my problem. They said they wouldnt swap phones because its not the phone's fault.
Im having the same issues but only when connected to my airrave.
No,
I did encounter issues when I first got my phone......... but did a system update the first day and all issues seem to be fixed ..this update does note that it corrects this type of problem .. on my phone anyway
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That was my problem. They said they wouldnt swap phones because its not the phone's fault.
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Might want to have them check the SIM Card Reader. When I brought mine in after having the phone for a week, they told me that the issue were a result of the reader being busted. They replaced my phone right away with no issues since I only had it for a week. From what I hear is that the longer you've had the phone, the less likely Sprint will replace it though.
I'm heading over to the store again today to have them actually look at it.
They finally acknowledged that it is a handset problem. After looking at the service trends again I was red in voice and device was grey(don't know what that means). Crossing fingers that this fixes the issue but also Hoping that this isn't the only solution as it sounds costly
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They finally acknowledged that it is a handset problem. After looking at the service trends again I was red in voice and device was grey(don't know what that means). Crossing fingers that this fixes the issue but also Hoping that this isn't the only solution as it sounds costly
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Grey means not enough data collected yet to determine anything.
I'm having bad issues as well as everyone else I personally sold HK and Non HK M8 too something is not right.. I'm to scared to order myself a replacement and not be able to achieve S-Off on it.. But I could buy the 25 dollar app to get it. Anyway Ive asked about these issues no response worth talking about. Hope to solve this soon guys...
Just got an HKE no problems here. I actually get better signal and speeds than on my Note 3. No Spark just LTE
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It's a damn shame. Flew through Milwaukee, Vegas, Reno, and am in lake Tahoe on vacation and it's the same **** everywhere.
Flash the roam only mod then the Verizon prl. I'm getting better signal now then when I was with Verizon. I also have an hk m8 btw.
Received my replacement at 11am(EST) this morning and have had zero drops or issues since then. Been at full service in Spark since then.
Will update this thread in a few days with my findings.
Sucks because I am afraid to root/s-off because everything is working but I miss my backups of apps(Ti Backup) that I have been working on for years and hate these damn ads and bloat ware.
Im in the same boat waiting on my replacement tommorow. Im looking at it this way. Make sure you have the latest firmware and there should be no difference. I guessing bad antennas in some and some are just lucky and got a good one. Maybe start a thread Rooted vs Non rooted with signal quality and maybe we can answer our own question?
I have been holding off a Sprint visit for weeks, but after getting voicemails without getting phone calls on numerous occasions, I will have to go to Sprint.
However, after completely unrooting my phone in preparation to go to Sprint, I might not root my replacement whenever I decide to go there.
HTC Backup is excellent, in my opinion, and it really helps we with my lack of Titanium Backup. I don't like the ads either, but I think that it might be time to throw in the towel on rooting my phone. I've gotten more than my share of rom flashes and whatnot.
I was given a replacement due to my original having a bad antenna. Ive had zero issues since getting my new phone
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I just as got my second one In less then a week and it keeps showing data connection error or some like that
If you're having trouble with your HTC One M8 download the latest latest network performance test tool.
"dl3 . htc . com/us/sprint/network_performance_test_tool_v0.85.zip" <=== Official website I cant post link currently so remove spaces.
If you get a red screen with NG device you need a replacement. It's a known device problem so charges will be waived.
New radio seems to fix problems
I was having tons of data connection issues with my M8. I recently followed the posts on doing the recent firmware update (OTA for those of you not rooted) and it includes a radio update. The new radio seems to be working quite well and I haven't had any connection issues. Hopefully this works for you guys too.
Amsick you can get into big trouble for that lol
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Antenna issue and HORRIBLE customer service w/ Verizon

I have had the LG G2 for a year now and I am experiencing issues with coverage. I am dropping calls or just not receiving them at all lately. I had verizon open a case about this last week which they promptly forgot to handle. Today I called back and asked for the results of the claim and was told that Verizons tech believed the issue was my phone, not the network.
I was then told I needed to have my phone replaced and the replacement would be out of warranty. Essentially..If it happens again, it's solely my problem. Being that this was a horrible offer I declined and stated I would want at least 6 months worth of warranty to cover the device for THIS issue alone. I was told a supervisor would call me and later she did. She refused a 6 month guarantee (on this issue alone) and asked me if I would be interested in resolving my issue by joining their edge program.
YEP! They suggested I essentially pay full retail for a phone to ensure this did not happen again. "Try another phone! It's an issue with the G2!", they said.
I don't want to be long winded, so here is some of the chat I had today. This is the 4th person I spoke to.
Cody: Thus far my option have been - Receive another LG G2 and hope it does not have the same issue (which would be fine if you all would allow me a warranty insuring a replacement if it did) or pay full retail for another device through Edge. Those are not great options.
Eliza: Thank you for that information! Please allow me a moment to access your account.
Eliza: I have an option for you, but it will require you to pay full price. Are you familiar with our device payment plan?
Cody: I'm being offered to pay full price to replace a device that Verizon acknowledges is faulty...
Eliza: This is similar to our Edge program, in that you will make the payments over a set amount of months. The Device Payment Plan allows those payments to be made over 12 months. Would that interest you?
Cody: I am not paying full price to correct an issue that Verizon has determined is not my fault.
Eliza: I understand. The only other option in this case would be the Certified Like New Replacement. I am sorry I don't have a more suitable option for you at this time.
Cody: Can you offer me a guarantee that the device will be replaced again if I have this same issue?
Eliza: No, I cannot. I can however assure you that this issue is not common with your device.
Cody: You're telling me "Hey, we understand that this isn't your fault, but you are still somehow fully responsible for the solution. You may have a phone that is possibly going to do the same thing..OR you can pay full retail for one"
Eliza: I apologize that we were unable to find a solution for you today. I will document your account with what we have discussed and gone over. Can I answer any other questions for you today?
Anyone else dealt with anything like this? I have loved this phone, but this is ridiculous. I cannot make or receive calls about 20% of the time & my G/F will be right next to me having no issues with her phone (iPhone, Verizon).
This is in the wrong section. I apologize.
That's their normal policy, one year from original purchase, it's not extended if you have it replaced.
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That's their normal policy, one year from original purchase, it's not extended if you have it replaced.
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I understand that, but I believe when a supervisor of the company blatantly says the LG G2 has these issues widespread that steps should be taken to ensure a customer isn't stuck with a bad device.
That is their policy, but the G2 just came out for verizon in November. So it not being covered is BS. Plain and simple. The only way they wont cover it is if your phone was purchased on a 2 year agreement on a different account than yours, or if the phone is broken (think cracked screen). If it was on another line on your account make sure to tell customer service this.
BTW, if you do call *611 don't just hit 000000 to get through to someone you will wait longer. When the prompt says "Main Menu" press 3 for tech support Say your issue. Tell the Customer service rep whats going on and they'll bump you to tier 2 support.
Kyle.
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That is their policy, but the G2 just came out for verizon in November. So it not being covered is BS. Plain and simple. The only way they wont cover it is if your phone was purchased on a 2 year agreement on a different account than yours, or if the phone is broken (think cracked screen). If it was on another line on your account make sure to tell customer service this.
BTW, if you do call *611 don't just hit 000000 to get through to someone you will wait longer. When the prompt says "Main Menu" press 3 for tech support Say your issue. Tell the Customer service rep whats going on and they'll bump you to tier 2 support.
Kyle.
Verizon Indirect Agent
3 years.
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I said the exact same thing about it being covered and I purchased the phone new and it has no issues physically. I'm dealing with tier 2 now. I appreciate your reply!
I've been trying for years to get coverage upgraded(along with others) in a fringe(but "wealthy" area surrounded by water on all but one side[coverage excellent 2 blocks away] ). Next they will tell you to purchase a fem cell and saying they are "fixing" the tower. GOOD LUCK!
Sounds like an issue with the phone though. If you are still in 1 year warranty, contact LG for new. Otherwise deal with refurb and good luck with that extension.
Omg the same thing has happened too me.. This is my 5th LG g2 the other ones all had the same problem were the screen had dead spots. After talking to a million people. Last time I finally went to a Verizon store and the lady showed me a tablet that said this is a known issue. After I was told they never heard of this happening before at ALL, EVER! So before I left I asked the lady if this happens AGAIN with this handset will they give me a different phone or credit me and upgrade? Because if they posted in this phones website on their store " currently this phone has a manufacturer defect with it's software and you may have to wait for a software upgrade for your phone to work correctly" I WOULDNT of BOUGHT THIS PIECE OF SH!#!! And she said "no sir your going to just have to wait for them too push a software upgrade if you don't want to pay for a new phone or use another upgrade" I am so mad about this I almost broke the phone in half and was going to cancel my account and tell them they will never see a dollar towards the disconnect fees. **** heads! I can't believe Verizon.. It's just crazy they won't work with me on this. I wouldn't of got this phone if I did a little research and seen these issues everyone is having. I was gonna get an m8, motox or s4/5... Should have on another carrier.
Is this a recent development? Or has it happened since you've had the phone?
I say this for a specific reason. I had issue retaining a reliable 4G data lock after I had installed the 24A OTA update. I figured it was the custom ROM I had installed and so posted in that thread. Several people replied saying they had similar issues and replaced their SIM card and the problems went away.
So I followed their suggestion. It fixed the problem immediately. The Verizon rep at the store who replaced my SIM told me something very interesting. Apparently, the OTA updater has a tendency to fry SIM cards, and its not limited to LG, or even Android, phones. Apparently when the latest iOS update was released, a large percentage of devices has their SIM cards fried to various degrees. He even implied that some people couldn't get any service, phone or data, until they had their SIM cards replaced.
If you think the issue started near the time of an OTA update, or even if it didn't, it might be worth going to down to a Verizon store (not one of those Authorized Retailer hacks) and request that you are having issues and want to try swapping your SIM card to see if it fixes the problem. They should be open to this.
Now, not only does the SIM card contain the information necessary to determine which cell towers to connect to, it also contains all the encryption keys necessary to encrypt all communications from the phone to the cell towers. But, it does not pass the keys to the phone. All the data is passed through the chip on the SIM card, and that chip does the encryption. The encrypted data is then passed back to the phone for radio transmission to the towers.
So, if the SIM card got fried somehow, it could completely butcher all communications. Its by no ways a guaranteed fix, but its worth a try. It doesn't cost anything but some time (which is always a frustrating cost).
I had some major issues over all their s3 refurbs they sent me. I filed a complaint with the Better Business Bureau and bam I got a call from a manager who hooked me up with a different phone....which then had a bad speaker on arrival. But the second DNA I received worked flawlessly. Lol.
Just need to remember to be patient and cooperative with them. Don't yell or anything because if your nice then they do more to help.
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You should look into adding the 2 bucks a month extended warranty to your line if you can. You'll always have manufacturer defect protection for any phone you put on the line (at least that's how it is for me) regardless of how old it is or where you got it from. Verizon's policy is (as far as I know) to replace the phone, but the certified like new phone they replace your phone with only comes with one month of warranty (or less).
If you don't agree with verizon's policy regarding warranty replacements you could contact LG and they will have you ship your phone to them, they will attempt to fix it, and if they can't they will send you a new phone, but I believe that they will give you a new 1 year warranty, unlike Verizon. That will prevent you from being SOL if the issue occurs again, but you'll be phone less for a week or so.
I'm not 100% about all of that, but as far as I know its all correct.

New Sprint Update Today?

Received a notification of a fw update today on my Sprint Note 8. Anyone else get it and maybe know what all it contains?
Camera app improvements, and a KRACK fix. That's why it's small.
I got it today as well. Didn't take it yet. I hate this phone. My service was crappy before, now it's at an all-time high with this piece of garbage. Sprint said I can return it but my rear camera glass is broke. Will they still take it back?
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I got it today as well. Didn't take it yet. I hate this phone. My service was crappy before, now it's at an all-time high with this piece of garbage. Sprint said I can return it but my rear camera glass is broke. Will they still take it back?
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Really? I love my Note8. By far the best phone I've ever had. Sprint cell signal has always been good where I am, and I'm almost always on WiFi anyway.
Got the Sprint OTA update N950USQU2BQJB a few days ago here in California which carried a security patch and Google Play Services update version 11.7.46 which has been terrible on my battery and particularly Pixel XL & OnePlus users as well as other devices according to online reports.
Have you updated to these versions and seen a dip In your battery life like many others have? And If so, have you seen a any difference in performance after updating your device with this last security patch update 'N950USQS2BQK3' rolled out by Sprint today (12/04/17) ?
Will this update 'N950USQS2BQK3' fix the issue of battery drain Sprint users have been experiencing in the past several weeks?
Thanks everyone.
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Really? I love my Note8. By far the best phone I've ever had. Sprint cell signal has always been good where I am, and I'm almost always on WiFi anyway.
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I'm between Baltimore and Washington DC. You would think an area so densely populated would have better service to accommodate the demand. We use a family locator app which was very good on our old phones (Note5 and S6). Now, I get an alert 20 minutes after someone arrives or leaves home.
Fortunately my employer supplies my with an iPad with date service thru Verizon
hebejebe said:
I got it today as well. Didn't take it yet. I hate this phone. My service was crappy before, now it's at an all-time high with this piece of garbage. Sprint said I can return it but my rear camera glass is broke. Will they still take it back?
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SAME!!!! Im SO mad at myself for breaking down and getting this horrible phone because of the 50% off promotion and not getting the LG V30 which I originally wanted but had a hard time justifying $38 a month for it being a single mother of two kids on a very tight budget. This phone is CRAP. I talked to sprint last week, talked to 3 different agents and basically was told since I was out of my 14 day window to deal with it. I HATE Sprint just as much as I hate the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 on the Sprint Network. Apps constantly go into a locked spinning like Facebook and I have to force stop apps atleast 20 times a day. Calls dont come through. I constantly keep receiving a text stating "Messenger's enhanced features have been enabled" (Confirmation ID: different evertime) ....I get this text msg anwhere from 5-10 times a day. Ive had done everything the forums have suggested to fix my problems and NOTHING has worked. I have reprogrammed and factory reset and just doesnt get any better! Im beyond frustrated with paying for basically a brick with crappy service!!!
You folks have gotten some pretty nasty lemons. My Note8 has been 100% problem-free. And it's one of the first off the line, since I pre-ordered.
FWIW, I have had problems with calls and messages on Sprint in the past with other phones, and it was a problem at Sprint. I called customer service/technical support, they fixed something at their end, and everything worked after that. I don't know if that's what you're experiencing, but that's just a FWIW.
Mine has been problem free as well aside from one hiccup after a BD update. Other than that it has been flawless.
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SAME!!!! Im SO mad at myself for breaking down and getting this horrible phone because of the 50% off promotion and not getting the LG V30 which I originally wanted but had a hard time justifying $38 a month for it being a single mother of two kids on a very tight budget. This phone is CRAP. I talked to sprint last week, talked to 3 different agents and basically was told since I was out of my 14 day window to deal with it. I HATE Sprint just as much as I hate the Samsung Galaxy Note 8 on the Sprint Network. Apps constantly go into a locked spinning like Facebook and I have to force stop apps atleast 20 times a day. Calls dont come through. I constantly keep receiving a text stating "Messenger's enhanced features have been enabled" (Confirmation ID: different evertime) ....I get this text msg anwhere from 5-10 times a day. Ive had done everything the forums have suggested to fix my problems and NOTHING has worked. I have reprogrammed and factory reset and just doesnt get any better! Im beyond frustrated with paying for basically a brick with crappy service!!!
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Well that sucks . I've had it since a week before launch and the N8 is amazing. No lag problems, no service problems. First phone with android in 7 yrs I haven't rooted .
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Any thoughts on when the Oreo update is to drop?

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