Question about fast charging. - Nexus 6 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello guys! I just had a question about the fast charging in the nexus 6. I recently flashed the Android M preview to my nexus, used it for a couple days, and then reflashed 5.1.1 back to complete stock. It got me to wondering about if the fast charge feature was software related or all hardware. Like, if I installed an AOSP rom like cyanogenmod or another one, does it affect the phones ability to fast charge? How does that work? Is that built into the chipset or is it part of the phones kernel?
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Chipset. Fast charge doesn't turn on and off depending on roms or anything.
Future questions should be posted in the Q & A section.

Alright! So not software related at all? Changing the entire phones software does not affect that?
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There is many things wrongfully stated here...Quick Charge aka stock nexus 6 and Qualcomm certified quick chargers are based on hardware...where as fast charge is mostly for those NOT on proper chargers with lower outputs that allow the phone to pull a higher "Mah" from said charger for quicker charging. The other thing wrong is CM and AOSP are 2 very different things...AOSP based is ROMs mostly based from google code itself where as CM uses a very heavy amount of CAF related additions as well as legacy device support from elsewhere... Also considering here..CM Inc is looking to become an "Android without google aka true AOSP"
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Time for a change

Hi All,
I have finally shortlisted optimus g and nexus 4. I have to finalize one.
Nexus 4: 16 GB, Optimus G: 32 G
Nexus 4 Latest updates, Optimus G: very slow updates( I meant very slow), and every small developing community ( i meant really very small)
Nexus 4: no LTE, Optimus G: Supports LTE (in india LTE not available)
Nexus 4: no USB OTG support, Optimus G: (Supports pen drive mouse keyboard u name it)
Both devices have reported back cover crack issues and over heating issues. Please provide your views on this.
Both looks good.
Howz gaming performance?
Nexus in india is 25k where as optimus g is 30 k.
So which one to go for.
Currently using Incs for almost 2 years, awesome build quality and pretty good developing community.
Well if I'm not mistaken the nexus 4 is based of the lg. So with that in mind I'd go for the nexus 4.
Nexus 4
Cheaper
Latest version of android
Not sure if, but will probably get 4.3 version of android
So go for the nexus
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noremac258 said:
Well if I'm not mistaken the nexus 4 is based of the lg. So with that in mind I'd go for the nexus 4.
Nexus 4
Cheaper
Latest version of android
Not sure if, but Will probably get 4.3 version of android
So go for the nexus
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Correction. So yes, I would suggest the Nexus 4. Its got a nice big developer community too.
I thought you could turn the optimus into a N4 with a mod on xda
No joke
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poondog said:
I thought you could turn the optimus into a N4 with a mod on xda
No joke
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Yes we can convert n4 to og with a mod but lg abandons there devices once new device is out. Lg g pro is out.. Og2 is about to come.. So og will be a history. Very less development support.
FYI: the phone is available from august 2012 almost a year and just 38 threads in development section
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milan.gadakari said:
Yes we can convert n4 to og with a mod but lg abandons there devices once new device is out. Lg g pro is out.. Og2 is about to come.. So og will be a history. Very less development support.
FYI: the phone is available from august 2012 almost a year and just 38 threads in development section
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True but once it's a nexus 4 you don't have go worry about updates, you can have the latest android updates and versions with a N4 Rom
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Wait for the next Nexus if can't wait, go for Nexus 4.... you'll always get the most current Android
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getting an incredible s
hi guys, i need some opinions here
i'm thinking of getting an incredible s, as i got bored with the hd2 already
i liked incredible s because it fits right into my hand, and i liked holding it. here are my questions:
1) how is the phone? is it still fast for today's standard? (i'm thinking of using sense 4.1 roms)
2) will the speed of the rom increase if i use class 10 cards? my freind used a class10 on his nexushd2 ics and he said there's a noticeable
performance jump, but im skeptical
3) will there be any issues if i used sun global batteries with custom roms? i heard a while back that third-party batteries aren't compatible with
custom roms
thanks for your time yeah?
hasif63 said:
hi guys, i need some opinions here
i'm thinking of getting an incredible s, as i got bored with the hd2 already
i liked incredible s because it fits right into my hand, and i liked holding it. here are my questions:
1) how is the phone? is it still fast for today's standard? (i'm thinking of using sense 4.1 roms)
2) will the speed of the rom increase if i use class 10 cards? my freind used a class10 on his nexushd2 ics and he said there's a noticeable
performance jump, but im skeptical
3) will there be any issues if i used sun global batteries with custom roms? i heard a while back that third-party batteries aren't compatible with
custom roms
thanks for your time yeah?
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The Incredible S is a great phone but I think that in this current time and age, you can do a lot better.
For question 2, ummm, there is certainly the possibility but I think it would only be faster in regards to the activities related to the micro sd card. I think someone else should help me here. :laugh:
For question 3, batteries don't affect a ROM's booting and compatibility with custom ROM's. They are just batteries (like the stock one HTC gives you) that provides juice for your phone.
getting an incredible s
072665995 said:
The Incredible S is a great phone but I think that in this current time and age, you can do a lot better.
For question 2, ummm, there is certainly the possibility but I think it would only be faster in regards to the activities related to the micro sd card. I think someone else should help me here. :laugh:
For question 3, batteries don't affect a ROM's booting and compatibility with custom ROM's. They are just batteries (like the stock one HTC gives you) that provides juice for your phone.
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because i don't want to spend too much on a phone. besides, incredible s is pretty cheap in my area nowadays. i haven't used any proper android phone before. HD2 was a pseudo-android phone :laugh:
umm... so do i have to do any battery calibrations if i used third-party batteries?
hasif63 said:
because i don't want to spend too much on a phone. besides, incredible s is pretty cheap in my area nowadays. i haven't used any proper android phone before. HD2 was a pseudo-android phone :laugh:
umm... so do i have to do any battery calibrations if i used third-party batteries?
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You shouldn't need any additional calibration.
buying htc incredible s
072665995 said:
You shouldn't need any additional calibration.
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nice... good to know that :good:
hasif63 said:
nice... good to know that :good:
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You always need battery calibrations after flashing a new rom as you flash a new rom, old battery stats are still in your device and thus this can affect your battery percentage.
As a new battery is already calibrated, it is not advised but it wouldnot make a difference unless the battery is too old or of low quality
Hnk1 said:
You always need battery calibrations after flashing a new rom as you flash a new rom, old battery stats are still in your device and thus this can affect your battery percentage.
As a new battery is already calibrated, it is not advised but it wouldnot make a difference unless the battery is too old or of low quality
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They are not always necessary. 80% of the time when I flash a new ROM, I don't bother with wiping battery stats simply because it does not make a notable difference in battery life or readings whatsoever. I only calibrate battery if and ONLY if I know that I'm supposed to be getting better battery on a particular ROM
072665995 said:
They are not always necessary. 80% of the time when I flash a new ROM, I don't bother with wiping battery stats simply because it does not make a notable difference in battery life or readings whatsoever. I only calibrate battery if and ONLY if I know that I'm supposed to be getting better battery on a particular ROM
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Hnk1 said:
You always need battery calibrations after flashing a new rom as you flash a new rom, old battery stats are still in your device and thus this can affect your battery percentage.
As a new battery is already calibrated, it is not advised but it wouldnot make a difference unless the battery is too old or of low quality
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Seriously?
How many times does it take for people to realize that wiping battery stats is probably just as useful as trying to unlock the screen by screaming at it?
If you need the sources for why the battery stats doesn't matter at all, just look through my earlier posts Google it. I'm currently on 2G so it'll take ages for me to find it.
(No, not trying to sound hostile or anything, just tired of people still wasting their time on wiping the battery stats)
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hasif63 said:
nice... good to know that :good:
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Splux said:
Seriously?
How many times does it take for people to realize that wiping battery stats is probably just as useful as trying to unlock the screen by screaming at it?
If you need the sources for why the battery stats doesn't matter at all, just look through my earlier posts Google it. I'm currently on 2G so it'll take ages for me to find it.
(No, not trying to sound hostile or anything, just tired of people still wasting their time on wiping the battery stats)
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After flashing a new rom, there are always chances that some stats from previous rom are left and this could result in quick drainage of battery. Battery life isnot improved or made better by this, however, sometimes due to flashing roms, the battery percentage is messed showing wrong percentage all the time. Thus, Calibrating a Battery is a better than waitng for battery to settle down.
"Better performance and battery-life is why most of us turn to custom ROMs. We keep trying from the available ROMs and stick to one that meets up to our expectations. Now there are two ways to find out how the battery performs- with the help of a battery monitor app (stock or third-party) and by taking note of the battery performance during the hours of a day.
If you feel that your device is not yielding good battery just because the battery monitor stats show it, you might be wrong in your judgement as most such apps sometimes lie to us.
Remember that with any ROM installed on your Android device, you will discover two things: 1. battery heat up, and 2. battery drain. And these issues for the most part are due to process of your phone’s new software and battery sync. It usually requires 3-4 full-charge and discharge cycles before things go to a normal state and after this, you will notice great improvement in battery performance. So, do not be quick in concluding anything about battery.
Let the battery calibrate and while you wait try one more thing. Whether you get a new phone or new software on your old device, avoid putting your device into charging mode frequently. Turn off the phone, plug charger, wait till it is fully charged and then use it till it is fully discharged. Repeating this several times will improve the battery-life of your device. I have tested it and it really works. "
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Hnk1 said:
After flashing a new rom, there are always chances that some stats from previous rom are left and this could result in quick drainage of battery. Battery life isnot improved or made better by this, however, sometimes due to flashing roms, the battery percentage is messed showing wrong percentage all the time. Thus, Calibrating a Battery is a required if you are having problems!
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Calibrating as in fully charge and then let it discharge to <5%, yes. As in removing a file which only saves what apps used how much battery, how the *beeeep* is that supposed to help your battery?
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Hnk1 said:
After flashing a new rom, there are always chances that some stats from previous rom are left and this could result in quick drainage of battery. Battery life isnot improved or made better by this, however, sometimes due to flashing roms, the battery percentage is messed showing wrong percentage all the time. Thus, Calibrating a Battery is a better than waitng for battery to settle down.
"Better performance and battery-life is why most of us turn to custom ROMs. We keep trying from the available ROMs and stick to one that meets up to our expectations. Now there are two ways to find out how the battery performs- with the help of a battery monitor app (stock or third-party) and by taking note of the battery performance during the hours of a day.
If you feel that your device is not yielding good battery just because the battery monitor stats show it, you might be wrong in your judgement as most such apps sometimes lie to us.
Remember that with any ROM installed on your Android device, you will discover two things: 1. battery heat up, and 2. battery drain. And these issues for the most part are due to process of your phone’s new software and battery sync. It usually requires 3-4 full-charge and discharge cycles before things go to a normal state and after this, you will notice great improvement in battery performance. So, do not be quick in concluding anything about battery.
Let the battery calibrate and while you wait try one more thing. Whether you get a new phone or new software on your old device, avoid putting your device into charging mode frequently. Turn off the phone, plug charger, wait till it is fully charged and then use it till it is fully discharged. Repeating this several times will improve the battery-life of your device. I have tested it and it really works. "
DroidVeiws
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Splux said:
Calibrating as in fully charge and then let it discharge to <5%, yes. As in removing a file which only saves what apps used how much battery, how the *beeeep* is that supposed to help your battery?
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whoops i mistook battery calibration as wiping battery stats :silly:
but yeah, honestly, my battery rarely falls below 30%. Im more of a go home then walk out a couple hours later so charging from 5% takes a bit too long. Thus I never do battery calibration. In addition it doesn't really do anything. Battery does not improve to a noticeable point where its actually worth the 5 or 6 hours wait to charge the phone :/
072665995 said:
whoops i mistook battery calibration as wiping battery stats :silly:
but yeah, honestly, my battery rarely falls below 30%. Im more of a go home then walk out a couple hours later so charging from 5% takes a bit too long. Thus I never do battery calibration. In addition it doesn't really do anything. Battery does not improve to a noticeable point where its actually worth the 5 or 6 hours wait to charge the phone :/
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5-6 hours to charge from 5%?! Occasionally I kill my battery (it's actually good to do that once in a while) and it doesn't take that long to recharge for me
Do you use a cheap charger with like 500mA output?
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Splux said:
5-6 hours to charge from 5%?! Occasionally I kill my battery (it's actually good to do that once in a while) and it doesn't take that long to recharge for me
Do you use a cheap charger with like 500mA output?
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err no
its the one HTC gave me

Nexus 6 still relevant?

Currently, I have the iphone 6s +. I'm not a fan. I've used androids for years and I loved the phones-even had the nexus 6. The phone was huge and thats what I loved about it. I went to the N6P and I hated everything about it to a point where I mistakenly switched to iphone for a few months.
I'm going back to android and want to know, is the N6 still a good phone? I plan rooting the **** out of it and using PureNexus. I know I would love the phone, but is it still a viable option? Should I look elsewhere? I need a big phone, I want plain vanilla android and only have 450.00 to play with.
If not, some choices would be very helpful.
Yes it is still relevant. I plan on running the phone a lot longer as long as it doesn't crap out on me. You've got:
-Great 6 inch 1440p screen with minimal bezel
-Dual front facing speakers (wait til you hear how they sound if you use A.R.I.S.E audio)
-Snapdragon 805 (with 3gb of RAM to boot) still holds it's own and doesn't overheat (at least for me) like many of the Snapdragon 810 phones. Performance is further improved with custom kernels and if you want to you can tweak all kinds of stuff like screen color profiles, wake gestures, governor, CPU min/max frequencies, screen off frequencies, hotplugs, governors, I/O schedulers, etc...
-Because it's a Nexus device it has one of the best development communities around. The current selection of ROMs, kernels, themes, mods, tweaks, etc... is great. While it's not a guarantee, I would expect to see developers release builds of future Android versions even though Nougat is the last official update. Take a look at the Nexus 4 XDA subforum for example. The last official Android version was Lollipop, but the development community has kept on with providing both Marshmallow and Nougat based builds.
-Camera is okay but not great by any means (although it looks cool when you use it as a flashlight because of the dual flash!)
Hi there,
Yes it's a legendary device and only the Mi Mix in my opinion comes close to the wow factor of the Nexus 6. I will hold on to it until it eventually dies on me, I have an iPhone 6S and a Samsung S7 but personally love to flaunt the Nexus 6 when I'm out with friends and family. It definitely is a head-turner and one word that describes the Nexus 6 best is 'unique'.
Love,
Syed
It is an excellent device, I just got some barely used original batteries for it.
Its price has taken quite a slide and I doubt it can be beaten at all at this price/performance range.

[Q]What is Fast charging?

some custom roms for our k3 has fast charging option..like blitz CM13 or AICP 11 and some custom kernel features this too...
what is this fast charging?? is it like Quickcharge?
shouldn't it be hardware based feature?
how fast does this feature charges our device?
Cpt.mactavish said:
some custom roms for our k3 has fast charging option..like blitz CM13 or AICP 11 and some custom kernel features this too...
what is this fast charging?? is it like Quickcharge?
shouldn't it be hardware based feature?
how fast does this feature charges our device?
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Our device originally supports upto 1700mA of current. But in some kernels the charging has been modded to give more current than that. The only thing I don't understand is that they tell us to use the stock charger to get faster charging but our wall charger only provides max 1.7A.
But some people have reported getting current upto 1900mA using the stock charger only. You can test the current through Ampere from play store.
Well you can't say it is like the quick charge technology as in the snapdragon devices but it should lessen the charging time
is it harmful?? for battery? I mean...since our battery isn't designed to cope with such high rated charging....!! is it?
Cpt.mactavish said:
is it harmful?? for battery? I mean...since our battery isn't designed to cope with such high rated charging....!! is it?
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I dont think it is harmful and hopefully the developer of that kernel also knows what our device is capable of
Cpt.mactavish said:
is it harmful?? for battery? I mean...since our battery isn't designed to cope with such high rated charging....!! is it?
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More or less, you should know that you are drawing more current than what the manufacturer specified. This may cause unexpected results like overheating, degradation of battery or worse bursting of phone!
Just be safe

Longest lasting battery ROM or kernel

Hello everyone,
I am using Nexus 4 again after I managed to replace the battery and now I remember that even with a new one, the phone sometimes cannot last a full day.
I remember that I was using Faux123 Kernel on KitKat back in 2013 but that files are not longer available anymore since the host is dead and mirrors as well. Using that combination I would get arround 24 hours with a Nexus 4 battery.
I can say for sure that using 5.1.1 LMY48T and Sinai latest kernel you could last a day. I need faux control kernel for speaker amplification since the default speakers sound too low, also you can adjust the MIC gain. I posted a screenshot with battery running the 2nd day and I have to say it's quite OK.
It still is awake 27% but at least it will get me through the day.
Besides using stock ROM and different kernels what other settings would you recommend? I know for example that you can also use SINAI on Lineage the battery will drain very fast.
The way I use the phone:
no NFC, no GPS, data only when I am not at work (driving).
I will post here better results after more tests , I am mostly interested in using a 7 version with latest security patch.
I thank all the devs once again for keeping this phone alive for such a long time!
natzy85 said:
I remember that I was using Faux123 Kernel on KitKat but that files are not longer available anymore since the host is dead and mirrors as well. Using that combination I would get arround 24 hours with a Nexus 4 battery.
I can say for sure that using 5.1.1 LMY48T and Sinai latest kernel you could last a day. I need faux control kernel for speaker amplification since the default speakers sound to low, also you can ajung the MIC gain.
Besides using stock ROM and different kernels what other settings would you recommend? I know for example that you can also use SINAI on Lineage the battery will drain very fast.
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Try the Matr1x kernel, which is based on Faux123
or
mod by JaMeVu
and write something more about the tests.
ze7zez said:
Try the Matr1x kernel, which is based on Faux123
or
mod by JaMeVu
and write something more about the tests.
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thank you very much!
With stock ROM and Sinai latest kernel version I got 2 hour of SOT and 12 hour of battery after first day after installation.
I will post screenshots tonight being the 2nd day.
I have also been informed that Chroma ROM has a 5-6 hour SOT ROM that could last 2 days. I will try to test that as well.
jelson392 wrote in a thread:
Probably my favorite rom for nexus 4. Using the hellspawn kernel (https://forum.xda-developers.com/nex...wn-n4-t3347850) with smartmax CPU governor and alucard CPU hotplug. Helps make the battery last a long time when streaming music.
I now have installed Pure Nexus and I got 16 hours of battery yesterday with 3 hours of SOT.
I think it's fair to say that it's great for everyday use and the default kernel has Faux123 support and you can modify CPU via kernel apps.
Believe me or not but, I just bought a Nexus 4 at eBay, so I decided install latest lineage OS build available at their servers, everything was running okay, perfomance, app install, camera has some bugs for now, including a weird bug at the video call that make my phone have BLACK SCREEN OF DEATH (BSOD) so that was weird and having that issue, despite the battery drain, so well, I just noticed that my battery was draining fast and charging take more than 4 hours on a battery of 2100mAh using a charger of 5.0v and 2.0A, wait, I forgot mention that the charge I'm using now is a Samsung Fast Charger so in my opinion maybe the fast charger is regulating the 2.0A to 1.67A which is the function of this charger, in this case i just being tired of slow charging, fast drain, BSOD and other certain problems with lineage OS kernel, I've installed the latest SLIM ROM for Nexus 4 in his stable version and all my problem were gone, the battery drain still there's since is a lineage OS kernel based but is less drain than lineage OS rom which was making me charge the phone up to 5 times per day, using SLIM ROM now i Have to charge my phone at least 2 times per day which i see it normal honestly, if this help, maybe using a custom slim rom can make your battery last long time, if you want use custom rom instead of stock
Mafworld said:
Believe me or not but, I just bought a Nexus 4 at eBay, so I decided install latest lineage OS build available at their servers, everything was running okay, perfomance, app install, camera has some bugs for now, including a weird bug at the video call that make my phone have BLACK SCREEN OF DEATH (BSOD) so that was weird and having that issue, despite the battery drain, so well, I just noticed that my battery was draining fast and charging take more than 4 hours on a battery of 2100mAh using a charger of 5.0v and 2.0A, wait, I forgot mention that the charge I'm using now is a Samsung Fast Charger so in my opinion maybe the fast charger is regulating the 2.0A to 1.67A which is the function of this charger, in this case i just being tired of slow charging, fast drain, BSOD and other certain problems with lineage OS kernel, I've installed the latest SLIM ROM for Nexus 4 in his stable version and all my problem were gone, the battery drain still there's since is a lineage OS kernel based but is less drain than lineage OS rom which was making me charge the phone up to 5 times per day, using SLIM ROM now i Have to charge my phone at least 2 times per day which i see it normal honestly, if this help, maybe using a custom slim rom can make your battery last long time, if you want use custom rom instead of stock
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I have Pure Nexus ROM for over a month and I am very happy with battery life. I only charge it at night and when some drainage occurs I put the kernel into power saving governor.
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Undervolte/Underclock for less heat and possible battery improvement?

Greetings and hello folk's
Intro :
I have been switching phones for decades and I have used android devices up till 8 gen 1, so as you see I have had great experience with most SD865 devices as they barely heat up on most occasions, recently I thought of trying Pixel 4XL and even coming for devices like S22U I like most stuff about this device except for the heating issue even battery is not that much of a big deal for me its okay ish
I have done undervolting on desktops CPU's and that made huge impact on temps especially on load
I know underclocking is possible on a rooted phone as well not so sure about undervolting though
So My Question is :
1.Has any tried this on their Pixel 4XL?
2. If so did it help ?
3. Does your device heat up too under normal use? (Mostly the left side of frame), if so did you try anything to fix it?
Besides what would be best app or module to try this on android 13 rooted 4 XL
I can't flash a kernel, is there a way to achieve this without modifying much of the stock ROM
Also whats your fix for the heating issue

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