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OK Ive spoke to HTC in live chat....
i asked about the 2.3.5 kernel update.....and heres the response
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You have been connected to James.
Scotty Holmes: hello
James: Hi Scotty, thank you for contacting HTC Support. How may I help you today?
Scotty Holmes: kernel update for htc salsa
Scotty Holmes: is there one out there? or is there one being made?
James: Unfortunately we do not have future update information, but if there was an update available for your device, Your phone will notify you.
Scotty Holmes: there was an update but it never gave us that......
Scotty Holmes: i have the 2.3.3 kernel source..but need 2.3.5 source
Scotty Holmes: is this out there?
James: Unfortunately this update is not available for your device.
Scotty Holmes: oh.....thats erm...unfair lol, will there be an update?
James: And I do not have information regarding any future updates. I would advise you to keep an eye on the HTC channels for more information as update information will be put on there.
The agent is sending you to http://www.htc.com/europe/help/.
The agent is sending you to http://www.facebook.com/htcuk.
The agent is sending you to http://www.twitter.com/htc.
looks like a no guys.......were praying for fcuk all!
This means guys.....
NO CM7
NO OC
Nothing basically.....
Unless some smartass dev can build a kernel from scratch around our phone....
Means we hav bought a useless thing by htc...they are not doing anythng .
Looks like they forgot that a Piece of cra* named htc salsa was ever produced by them
sent from htc salsa -iconic
ajaychhillar007 said:
Means we hav bought a useless thing by htc...they are not doing anythng .
Looks like they forgot that a Piece of cra* named htc salsa was ever produced by them
sent from htc salsa -iconic
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From my experience on xda, it takes a hell of alot longer to do things without the correct software but it still can be done!
Way I see it.....**** em.
We shall prevail and do this ourselves!
Wasn't me............ ;-)
Great spirit buddy...
We are wid u ...I dnt knw much abt ol dis stuff
But May be can help u in some other way like testin nd othr..
Rytly said f**k dem...;-)
sent from htc salsa -iconic
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You have been connected to Ralph.
kiran surath: hi ralph
Ralph: Hi kiran, thank you for contacting HTC Support, I am looking in to your query now.
kiran surath: i need a kernel source code for htc salsa version 2.3.5
Ralph: Have you checked the www.htcdev.com website, our Developer's Website?
kiran surath: yeah checked,its available only till 2.3.3 i need a 2.3.5 kernel source code
Ralph: I haploids for the wait.
Ralph: The file you are requesting is not currently available.
Ralph: I can submit a request for the information form our HTC Developer's Team.
kiran surath: i submitted a request for it for it but no response, i was so patient for that query,since one monbth waiting for it.
Ralph: I apologise for the inconvenience. Do you have a reference for the previous request?
kiran surath: waiting for the kernel source code to be released still no reponse
Ralph: Do you have a reference number from the previous submission?
kiran surath: i deleted the e-mail,sorry i lost the evidence,i lost the reference number
kiran surath: razer1224 is my username in the htcdev.com
kiran surath: i am a memeber in it
Ralph: One moment, I shall try accessing via your e-mail.
Ralph: Did you use another e-mail besides blah blah blah?
kiran surath: yes,That's my mail account.
kiran surath: blah blagh blah is my email address nothing besides it
Ralph: I am sorry, I am not finding a reference from here. Where did you submit the request?
kiran surath: to htcdev
Ralph: I see. Please allow me to submit a separate request via this form.
kiran surath: ok
Ralph: Could you provide me with your full name, a contact phone number and the Build number and software version of your HTC Salsa?
kiran surath: kiran surath,i'm in india so my number is blah blah blqah,its 2.3.3 kernel with 2.3.5 rom,i unlocked the bootloader
Ralph: Thank you.
Ralph: I shall be submitting the request shortly.
kiran surath: thank u so much...
kiran surath: when i would be getting this source code
Ralph: I am unable to say when it may arrive.
Ralph: Could yo tell me the country code for India?
kiran surath: +91
Ralph: Thank you. It is then blah blah blah?
kiran surath: yes
Ralph: Thank you. I apologise for not knowing this.
kiran surath: it's okay
Ralph: Do you have an IMEI number for your HTC Salsa?
kiran surath: yes,it is :blah blah blah
Ralph: You will have this as a reference number: blah blah blah
kiran surath: please make it fast as i have talked to many other developers who had difficulties for not realeasing this kernel source code.Thanks
Ralph: *I have submitted your request. I apologise but it is now in the hands of the Developers. They will address when they are able.
Ralph: *Is there anything else I can help you with today?
kiran surath: *no thanks,but please insist the developers as i have waited for a year
Ralph: *If you have no further questions please close this chat session. Upon closure you will be invited to complete our Customer Satisfaction Survey which should take no more than 1 minute.
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i think some people should do the same talking then we would work it out>>>>>why is he asking an imei number
whoever owns a salsa do that sh*t
you got what i got but in a longer fashion lol
kinda related but this pisses me off with the amount propriety and closed source stuff out there it prevents unpaid developers from improving a product, which would generate more sales. A good example of some relatively open hardware/software is the raspberry pi, it does have a single binary blob for the opengl but that's it. This makes the product very popular as the developers are pretty much unrestricted in what they want to do with the device and it has gotten some other companies a bit worried, sales wise. I fail to see why these android phones companies don't open there phone more and release newer code, most of the phnes have similar hardware and the source code most likely exists in other kernel release anyway so what is there major malfunction? About the only thing I can see is HTC thinks like this.
1. You bought a HTC phone, HTC is the best and you love HTC
2. HC does not update an updateable phone and provents the cstomers from keeping it updated
3. Loyal customer buys a new HTC phone
in reality
1. Customer buys HTC because he hears good things abot HTC
2. Cusomer decides to buy an older model because he just needs something basic and the newer models are not
3. Customers tries to update phone but gets pissed off that he cant
4. Customers tells everyone it generating bad publicity
5. Customers buys another brand
If it was up to me id be up to step 5 but its the phone i got for my wife who is on step 4. The stock ROM was very dodgy and the app storage space is very low. I have since fixed those issues but its still not a great phone
Well bloody said mate....spot on!
Wasn't me............ ;-)
HTC Desire C kernel anyone??? no
is it possible to put desire c kernel on salsa since it has almost same specs???
HTC said in their faqs like this
We work hard to ensure each of our products has the optimal user experience and therefore some products will remain at their current version of Android. In general, devices with 512MB ROM or less will not be upgraded to Android 4.0. These devices include the HTC ChaCha, HTC Salsa, HTC Wildfire S, HTC Explorer, and others.
HTC tablets, including the HTC Flyer, HTC EVO View 4G, and HTC Jetstream, will remain on their current Android version (Honeycomb).
Upgrades are not the same thing as ongoing support. Devices not being upgraded to Android 4.0 will still get software improvements, security fixes, and technical support as needed.
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Hi, today I contacted the support at HTC to ask for Android 2.3.5, why the Chacha has it and the Salsa not. Maybe they give me some useful answers.
It is very strange that the Salsa doesn't have a support page on the German HTC page. Ther is only a "Page not found"
@Go.Bin
Very interesting, that the Desire C runs only with 600MHz .. maybe it is possible. Only one thing is different.. the ROM is there 4GB ... I don't know if it fits on our 512MB. Best choice would be to put it on SD card.
Is it possible to boot an Android image from SD card like the HTC HD2 does to boot Android instead of WinMobile?
Go.Bin said:
is it possible to put desire c kernel on salsa since it has almost same specs???
HTC said in their faqs like this
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theschneidi said:
Hi, today I contacted the support at HTC to ask for Android 2.3.5, why the Chacha has it and the Salsa not. Maybe they give me some useful answers.
It is very strange that the Salsa doesn't have a support page on the German HTC page. Ther is only a "Page not found"
@Go.Bin
Very interesting, that the Desire C runs only with 600MHz .. maybe it is possible. Only one thing is different.. the ROM is there 4GB ... I don't know if it fits on our 512MB. Best choice would be to put it on SD card.
Is it possible to boot an Android image from SD card like the HTC HD2 does to boot Android instead of WinMobile?
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No to both above.
Each handset has a specific kernel...we have tried many kernels from various devices and most don't work....the ones that do, have screen flicker and other problems.
Our kernel has been released and i am learning the process of building them...its taking time of course so please bear with us
BigBearEvo said:
Our kernel has been released and i am learning the process of building them...its taking time of course so please bear with us
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when u say the above wad exactly u mean....wad kernel hav been releassed..i only have access to the stock kernel...ny new release or udates that u hav made extracting it...
i havn been arnd frm lng...but i was working on building up a kernel...nd i must say it isnt easy widout help...
so i wld lov to hlp in any progress u hav made...
nikzcool said:
when u say the above wad exactly u mean....wad kernel hav been releassed..i only have access to the stock kernel...ny new release or udates that u hav made extracting it...
i havn been arnd frm lng...but i was working on building up a kernel...nd i must say it isnt easy widout help...
so i wld lov to hlp in any progress u hav made...
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i mean by this....
Take Stock kernel on HTC website which they have released.
open it up and modify it, make it what you want
OC it
Make it compatible with everything we need so we can use it for CM7/CM9.
No i agree it is very hard making kernels, it took days to download the data required, around 15gb roughly on Ubuntu which is needed to be able to create a kernel cm7 rom
hi guys, im quite noob when it comes to this device. i tried rooting the HTC G1 before when i hard bricked it. i dont want same thing to happen to this desire C that i have.
Details of the phone
*** LOCKED ****
HBOOT-1.31.0000
RADIO-1.10.98.15
eMMC-boot
Jul 12 2012, 15:44:30
How can i root and unlock the HBOOT of this phone. please help. thanks in advance
We have an excellent thread for that over at the Desire C General section :silly:
Heres the link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1947613
Just follow all those steps precisely and you will be fine.
nikhil16242 said:
We have an excellent thread for that over at the Desire C General section :silly:
Heres the link : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1947613
Just follow all those steps precisely and you will be fine.
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Thanks bro...
please use the search function next time...
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in this post I will explain the goal of this specific thread created for this ROM with the permission of the Developer of this specific ROM.
This is a statement made in the Q&A/T template thread:
"While our forum has slowly been morphing, the one area we would like to keep original is Development
The goal is to alleviate the OT banter that occurs within any rom. While the XDA forum continues to grow, we need to help users work within the guidelines created by XDA. Over the last couple of years the average rom being created, has become a free for all chat thread. There tends to be much infighting and mod/developer cleaning.
The idea of this template is to create a Questions and Answers for each rom. This is in no way asking for Development to be moved here, rather any and all conversation that is non Development related to your conjoined Q&A."
This means that non-development related posts, should be posted - with the permission of the Dev - in this thread. What are the most common Off Topic posts, that should be posted in this Q&A/T thread?
1. Battery life related posts
2. Will this app work with this ROM
3. SD Card related problems
4. How do I dowmload and install this ROM, etc
Hope to have given you enough information,
kindest regards, Kuzibri
Off topic posts or not?
Hi All Followers of this ROM,
a certain post of a member of one of my Dev's ROM for whom I created a Q&a/T thread set me to think and reconsider what kind of posts is OT or not and how to deal with that.
It is not my intention to be overly strict about what is or is not an OT post, you should decide before you post whether you think it is OT. Consider whether the development of the ROM is helped by your post. Consider also whether someone in the future, searching through the thread, would find your post useful or would it just take up bandwidth.
If there is any doubt as to whether a post is OT, i will not ask you for it to be moved.
If I do decide your post is OT, I will ask you to move it.
If you think it is not OT, please post your reasons in the Q&A thread, quoting post number.
If I or the developer then agree with you, I will delete my post in the dev thread asking you to move it, and the post can stay.
I hope this makes it all clearer.
kindest regards, Kuzibri
Install issues
version: 0.5
version-bootloader: 1.54.0000
version-baseband: 4A.17.3250.14
version-cpld: None
version-microp: None
version-main: 2.14.1700.15
version-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON
meid: 00000000000000
product: m7_ul
platform: HBOOT-8064
modelid: PN0712000
cidnum: GOOGL001
battery-status: good
battery-voltage: 3956mV
partition-layout: Generic
security: on
build-mode: SHIP
boot-mode: FASTBOOT
commitno-bootloader: dirty-21fde4b846
hbootpreupdate: 11
gencheckpt: 0
And yes I will check md5 and give you my procedure.
Edit:
I didn't use superSU the first few times. I started with adb shell, and when it didn't work went to terminal emulator. When that also didn't work I sideloaded superSU with install to see if that would help.
Procedure:
In TWRP or CWM (tried both)
Format Data
Reboot to recovery
ADB Sideload zip
Let if flash, then reboot
After system starts HTC Setup pops up
Go through HTC Setup (select wifi, connect, enter google account (also done without entering))
Finish Setup and kicked out to Sense Homescreen
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Ok I've tried to following methods after the above steps
Method 1:
Plug into computer
adb shell
su (prompt changes to #)
modscript and mods both execute the same
Menu comes up
Select 1,4,6,7,9,11,13,15,19, exit (Clock and launched change, and Google Edition Setup wizard loads - I go through the wizard)
reboot
Restarts and Sense comes up again like nothing changed
Method 2:
./adb install Term.apk
open Term
su (grant permissions)
modscript
Menu comes up
Select 1,4,6,7,9,11,13,15,19, exit (Clock and launched change, and Google Edition Setup wizard loads - I go through the wizard)
close app
power down and restart
comes up with sense.
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I would note that after 19 and google setup run. I can use the google phone app, and see the google clock. also the apps and laucher change to reflect GE versions in use. However, all revert after restart
MD5 (GE_UI_2.24.401.1_V2.1.0.zip) = 778c72775d59673cb491b297e69cf272
Is the same from the download site.
horseUSA said:
version: 0.5
version-bootloader: 1.54.0000
version-baseband: 4A.17.3250.14
version-cpld: None
version-microp: None
version-main: 2.14.1700.15
version-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON
meid: 00000000000000
product: m7_ul
platform: HBOOT-8064
modelid: PN0712000
cidnum: GOOGL001
battery-status: good
battery-voltage: 3956mV
partition-layout: Generic
security: on
build-mode: SHIP
boot-mode: FASTBOOT
commitno-bootloader: dirty-21fde4b846
hbootpreupdate: 11
gencheckpt: 0
And yes I will check md5 and give you my procedure.
Edit:
I didn't use superSU the first few times. I started with adb shell, and when it didn't work went to terminal emulator. When that also didn't work I sideloaded superSU with install to see if that would help.
Procedure:
In TWRP or CWM (tried both)
Format Data
Reboot to recovery
ADB Sideload zip
Let if flash, then reboot
After system starts HTC Setup pops up
Go through HTC Setup (select wifi, connect, enter google account (also done without entering))
Finish Setup and kicked out to Sense Homescreen
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Ok I've tried to following methods after the above steps
Method 1:
Plug into computer
adb shell
su (prompt changes to #)
modscript and mods both execute the same
Menu comes up
Select 1,4,6,7,9,11,13,15,19, exit (Clock and launched change, and Google Edition Setup wizard loads - I go through the wizard)
reboot
Restarts and Sense comes up again like nothing changed
Method 2:
./adb install Term.apk
open Term
su (grant permissions)
modscript
Menu comes up
Select 1,4,6,7,9,11,13,15,19, exit (Clock and launched change, and Google Edition Setup wizard loads - I go through the wizard)
close app
power down and restart
comes up with sense.
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I would note that after 19 and google setup run. I can use the google phone app, and see the google clock. also the apps and laucher change to reflect GE versions in use. However, all revert after restart
MD5 (GE_UI_2.24.401.1_V2.1.0.zip) = 778c72775d59673cb491b297e69cf272
Is the same from the download site.
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Okay yeah let's migrate here.
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Ask your questions here. Anything you may want to ask you can ask here, as long as it's not about what I'm wearing (Or anyone else for that matter). I dont mind if you ask ETA's. And I'll check this thread often and answer every relevant question I come across.
I would do S-OFF but my hboot 1.54.0000 isn't supported yet. If you go AROMA I will certainly load and let you know. Also, if you have any other tweaks or things you wish me to try just hollar. Thanks for you work and help!
horseUSA said:
I would do S-OFF but my hboot 1.54.0000 isn't supported yet. If you go AROMA I will certainly load and let you know. Also, if you have any other tweaks or things you wish me to try just hollar. Thanks for you work and help!
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Alright no problem sorry I don't know what's goin on with that man.
tyler1234567 said:
Okay yeah let's migrate here.
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Ask your questions here. Anything you may want to ask you can ask here, as long as it's not about what I'm wearing (Or anyone else for that matter). I dont mind if you ask ETA's. And I'll check this thread often and answer every relevant question I come across.
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Hi my dear friend,
asking for ETA's also belong in this thread and not in your Dev;s thread!!
kindest regards, Kuzibri
tyler1234567 said:
Okay yeah let's migrate here.
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Ask your questions here. Anything you may want to ask you can ask here, as long as it's not about what I'm wearing (Or anyone else for that matter). I dont mind if you ask ETA's. And I'll check this thread often and answer every relevant question I come across.
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Hi my dear friend,
would it be possible for you to also place a link ti this Q&A/T thread??
kindest regards, Kuziibri
kuzibri said:
Hi my dear friend,
would it be possible for you to also place a link ti this Q&A/T thread??
kindest regards, Kuziibri
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Yeah I did that already.
By the way guys, it turns out that the rom has to be s-off for my script to make the changes and have them stick.
tyler1234567 said:
Yeah I did that already.
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Thanks my dear friend,
just missed that by seconds
Thread already running fine, thanks to you!!!!!
kindest regards, Kuzibri
I have tried like six times to download this Rom... I've never had so many problems with downloading a Rom. Can someone post a Dropbox link or something
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spodemx said:
I have tried like six times to download this Rom... I've never had so many problems with downloading a Rom. Can someone post a Dropbox link or something
Sent from my HTC One using xda premium
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I will upload a mirror, thats the first I've heard of download issues.
Is there a way to get Twitter on blinkfeed? Not a huge deal but just wondering. I coukdnt find info on it.
Sent from my HTC One using Tapatalk 4 Beta
Q What are the known issues with these ROM's?
A Right now there doesn't appear to be any specific issues with this ROM. <----Really??
There are issues depending on what options you choose. For example, If you choose to use the GE Phone, incoming calls have no audio. AOSP lockscreen auto unlocking when a call comes in (Chris from Slim-rom fixed this, but I dont think he remembers how). I'm sure there are plenty more.
DOTC said:
Q What are the known issues with these ROM's?
A Right now there doesn't appear to be any specific issues with this ROM. <----Really??
There are issues depending on what options you choose. For example, If you choose to use the GE Phone, incoming calls have no audio. AOSP lockscreen auto unlocking when a call comes in (Chris from Slim-rom fixed this, but I dont think he remembers how). I'm sure there are plenty more.
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Hi,
you're absolutely right!! Forgot to change that one, just copied and pasted it from another Q&A/T Thread, . Thanks for pointing me to this mistake, will change it. My apologies.
kindest regards, Kuzibri
EDIT: changed
tyler1234567 said:
I agree guys, there is a very hazy line drawn and no one really knows what is acceptable to post here.
I personally thought that talking about implementing mods into a rom is "development". Now it seems I don't quite know what development is.
And about the post saying thank you, I am sorry that you were singled out like that. I do really appreciate the thanks.
About a week ago I was asked to make an agreement with @kuzibri. The agreement was that he was going to create a Q&A thread for questions of all sorts and keep it clean around here..
Only problem now is that I feel like there is no clear line drawn for what exactly development talk is.
One thing I know about XDA is that you don't argue with the mods. Because it never turns out good.
Oh and by the way, I'm going to update either today or tomorrow. (My days off) so if you have any requests let me know..... I don't know which thread you should post in though... Maybe just the Q&A to be safe.
@Nilsonf @redbull123
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Only things I would like for you to take a look at, if possible, is maybe add the flashable zip we discussed for the CRT animation to the OP in the ROM thread, and possibly have a look at the Google Phone not being stable for incoming calls (no audio - I think it's a common problem with everyone?) Although that's probably a serious bug, but I live in hope :fingers-crossed:
Other than the Google Phone not working (CRT would be a bonus) I think this ROM is excellent - I've been using it for about 2 weeks now as my driver and can't fault it. Great battery life, rock solid, best features of both systems in one ROM..:good:
redbull123 said:
Only things I would like for you to take a look at, if possible, is maybe add the flashable zip we discussed for the CRT animation to the OP in the ROM thread, and possibly have a look at the Google Phone not being stable for incoming calls (no audio - I think it's a common problem with everyone?) Although that's probably a serious bug, but I live in hope :fingers-crossed:
Other than the Google Phone not working (CRT would be a bonus) I think this ROM is excellent - I've been using it for about 2 weeks now as my driver and can't fault it. Great battery life, rock solid, best features of both systems in one ROM..:good:
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hi redbull,
now we are in the Q&A/T thread for this Dev's ROM, I can explain more about the purpose of this thread without being OT. This is the statement of the Q&A/T Thread team:
"Attn: Developers & RC's~
Developers, understanding your time is valuable, we still need to keep our forum to the standards that made us who we are..
While our forum has slowly been morphing, the one area we would like to keep original is Development
The goal is to alleviate the OT banter that occurs within any rom. While the XDA forum continues to grow, we need to help users work within the guidelines created by XDA. Over the last couple of years the average rom being created, has become a free for all chat thread. There tends to be much infighting and mod/developer cleaning.
The idea of this template is to create a Questions and Answers for each rom. This is in no way asking for Development to be moved here, rather any and all conversation that is non Development related to your conjoined Q&A.
It's method is simple. Once created, it will be up to the Developer to place a link in 2 places within the OP of the rom (linking the corresponding ROMs, Q&A in the Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting section) While each Dev may not want to start this, it will be acceptable/encouraged for an RC or any other person you devs feel could run this to the best of the ROMs interest."
So all in all, any post that is non-development related, e.g. makes the ROM of a particular Dev's thread not better, is considered as an OT post and should be posted in this thread.
Hope to have given you now enough background information and also hoping on a more friendly reply,
kindest regards, Kuzibri.
Hey Guys.. I Created this thread for discussing S-OFF for our Desire C (obviously) ... Recently I contacted HTC Devs and here what they say ...
Dear Reinel Caluag,
Thanks for contacting HTC Philippines
we appreciate your continuous attentions with our products and services. We understand that you wanted to have an S off for your HTC Desire C.
For us to easily solve the issue, we would like to get the exact make and model of the handset. And it would be best if you could provide to us the IMEI or the serial number of your phone for proper documentation of your account with us. You may usually get the IMEI on the sticker at the back of the handset or by dialing *#06# on your phone’s dialer.
Regarding the concern, as we gathered some information, S-on or security on is a feature on our device where the system software of the handset is protected. For this, since you mentioned that you've already unlocked the bootloader of the handset and you still have S-On, we will raise this concern to our management for us to know how you can get S-off. For the meantime, please do expect another email response about updates and resolution for the said concern.
Please let us know if this information was able to help you. If not, kindly inform us the issues you have encountered. Should you need further assistance, you may give us a call at 1800-14410789 for PLDT or 1800-89086588 for Globe. You may provide your customer ID number “ for us to easily pull up your account. And our business hours are from Mondays to Sundays, 8:00AM to 8:00PM.
On the other hand, if we have successfully answered all of your concerns, you may close the ticket by accessing the links provided as well as for proper documentation of your account with us.
Once the ticket is closed, you will be receiving an invite for a survey. We would greatly appreciate if you can participate on a quick survey regarding how we were able to assist you with your concern.
Thank you for making business with us. Have a nice day!
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Sincerely,
The HTCDev Team
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After Seeing that.. i quickly reply them .... they need IMEI,and some phone info ... and I send them ...
What Do ya Think Guys.. ???
(*_*)
Good, Its good to see the HTCDev team showing even the slightest support for the Desire C
Maybe we will get S-OFF maybe we wont.
Right now it seems to be the thing we need most right now :/
Thanks for doing this Addictz10
Sparky
Excuse my noobishness, but I don't really see the point behind getting s-off for our phone. I understand it will enable us to flash kernels from recovery mode itself and we can flash radio images to our phone (which I think is risky and i would never try that). And we can flash a different bootloader. But with it comes great security risks, and the possibility to actually hard brick our phones. So given a choice, I would still opt for S-on. Flashing kernels through fastboot is not that much of a problem, it hardly takes any time. Is there something I'm missing regarding S-off?
aashay960 said:
Excuse my noobishness, but I don't really see the point behind getting s-off for our phone. I understand it will enable us to flash kernels from recovery mode itself and we can flash radio images to our phone (which I think is risky and i would never try that). And we can flash a different bootloader. But with it comes great security risks, and the possibility to actually hard brick our phones. So given a choice, I would still opt for S-on. Flashing kernels through fastboot is not that much of a problem, it hardly takes any time. Is there something I'm missing regarding S-off?
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nah! my Device before got an S-off i flash kernels through recovery without having any problem... S-off is Safe ... but if you dont know what are you doing you'll end up in a big problem ... :3 ... if we have S-OFF then it means we will have a chance to get DUAL BOOT!! ..
addictz10 said:
nah! my Device before got an S-off i flash kernels through recovery without having any problem... S-off is Safe ... but if you dont know what are you doing you'll end up in a big problem ... :3 ... if we have S-OFF then it means we will have a chance to get DUAL BOOT!! ..
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So we can run two roms together, like one sense and one cm10?
aashay960 said:
So we can run two roms together, like one sense and one cm10?
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yeah ... !!
My turn to state an opinion. IMHO dual booting is a bad idea. It takes up more space than it should. The only benefit i see from it is as a test enviorment.
Like have your main rom setup, and then flash test builds of other roms alongside it. But that is the only benefit.
Isn't different bootloaders device specific? If so who will be the advanced dev guy that will port/build them for us?
Im supporting s-off, but highly hesitant whether it will be of much use on a such low end device.
addictz10 said:
Hey Guys.. I Created this thread for discussing S-OFF for our Desire C (obviously) ... Recently I contacted HTC Devs and here what they say ...
After Seeing that.. i quickly reply them .... they need IMEI,and some phone info ... and I send them ...
What Do ya Think Guys.. ???
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Nah HTC won't do anything to us
its like when we send a huge amount of emails with no answer
They leave their old phones and take care of new ones
Sent from my HTC Desire C using xda app-developers app
I just want S-OFF the change the ugly splash screen to something nicer and ofcourse for flashing kernels from recovery!
addictz10 said:
nah! my Device before got an S-off i flash kernels through recovery without having any problem... S-off is Safe ... but if you dont know what are you doing you'll end up in a big problem ... :3 ... if we have S-OFF then it means we will have a chance to get DUAL BOOT!! ..
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I am not sure about Dual boot.
becuse pico doesn't have S-off but a dual boot
I think they have s-off .. coz dual boot needs s-off because dual boot flash kernels through recovery... while us on fastboot
Sent from my HTC Desire C using xda app-developers app
I agree with noahvt about changing splash screen and its so annoying having to turn on my PC to change kernel and we need to get a full touch cwm not twrp like 6.0.3.5
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YAH! I KNOW!! Just do What we want -_-
Dear Reinel Caluag,
Thanks for contacting HTC Philippines
Thank you for the information that you have provided. Regarding the concern, as we've checked our resources, we found out that we don't need to turn the security off to accomplish the basic installation of custom ROM. Security on by default is good for some reasons, it protects the system software configuration such as radio, boot, recovery and system. However, once you've unlocked the bootloader of the handset, you will have lifted the restrictions of the handset and you have the means to customize boot, recovery and system images on your phone as you desire. For this, we are sorry to say that our management did not give the exact information on how to turn the security off. But as for coordination, normally, once you've unlocked the bootloader of the handset it will automatically have S-Off and developers would easily access or toggle the options on the phone specifically with Security off and on.
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The HTCDev Team
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Reply of HTC Devs ..
addictz10 said:
YAH! I KNOW!! Just do What we want -_-
Reply of HTC Devs ..
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I've send an e-mail as well
I stated that they should atleast consider it!
EDIT: for my asus transformer it was so easy just unlock the bootloader and i was flashing a new bootloader immediately after that why does HTC have to make it this hard :\
noahvt said:
I've send an e-mail as well
I stated that they should atleast consider it!
EDIT: for my asus transformer it was so easy just unlock the bootloader and i was flashing a new bootloader immediately after that why does HTC have to make it this hard :\
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because their buts :silly:
Shad0wPanda said:
because their buts :silly:
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Their flagship device (htc one) received an s-off not long after release so yeah i think they just don't care about the lower and devices
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WOW :silly:
this is the reply from htc (the most stupid reply i've ever seen) this is what they call "customer service"
Dear Noah Van Tiggel,
Thank you for your email regarding your HTC device.
I would like to inform you that we do not give support for this issue.
If you have quetions you can search it in this site http://www.htcdev.com/.
I hope I have informed you sufficiently,
Best regards
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Means the going boat went down ;(
Can't we build a bootloader(S-OFF) ones.
The ones who build these are also humans like us.
And no one is born with ultiamte knowlege.
There always is a horizon and a hope that shall always be in our heart
We can do it
Pressurise HTC.
We need S-OFF
aman23091998 said:
Means the going boat went down ;(
Can't we build a bootloader(S-OFF) ones.
The ones who build these are also humans like us.
And no one is born with ultiamte knowlege.
There always is a horizon and a hope that shall always be in our heart
We can do it
Pressurise HTC.
We need S-OFF
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For what i understand is that we need an xtc clip (link: http://www.xtc.hk/index.html ) people at pico thread have spoken about this but i don't know if this will work on our desire c's it's if someone is willing to risk it? i found this guide (it is for the htc desire hd but it will be sort of similar with other devices i think) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLWtIzOkEbI
EDIT: it's possible without xtc clip as shown in this thread for wildfire s http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342468
EDIT2: another pico thread about s-off : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957236
EDIT3: i'm gonna try to put my phone into diag mode right now!
EDIT4(lol): i won't give up this easily
EDIT5: damnit htc even diag mode is not included in our desire c :\
noahvt said:
For what i understand is that we need an xtc clip (link: http://www.xtc.hk/index.html ) people at pico thread have spoken about this but i don't know if this will work on our desire c's it's if someone is willing to risk it? i found this guide (it is for the htc desire hd but it will be sort of similar with other devices i think) : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bLWtIzOkEbI
EDIT: it's possible without xtc clip as shown in this thread for wildfire s http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1342468
EDIT2: another pico thread about s-off : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957236
EDIT3: i'm gonna try to put my phone into diag mode right now!
EDIT4(lol): i won't give up this easily
EDIT5: damnit htc even diag mode is not included in our desire c :\
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Damn you htc when I was London I went past a HTC building and was tempting to go in and say
Here it is give me god damn s-off for our ************* HTC golfu. Yarr and maybe a few HTC ones¿ and all UE booty
So bloody close
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Damn you htc when I was London I went past a HTC building and was tempting to go in and say
Here it is give me god damn s-off for our ************* HTC golfu. Yarr and maybe a few HTC ones¿ and all UE booty
So bloody close
Sent from my HTC Desire C using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
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I'm gonna buy a N4 at the end of the year since it has better support then HTC does :'( but i'll keep in touch and keep developing for this phone i still don't understand htc doesn't give us proper support (and because there is a big crack running trough my phone )
hello All my Dear Boss & XDA Devloper
I face this in htc one M8 mobile
it doesn't open normal anymore and when it open it just show me the welcome screen n stop on it and when i try to reset factory it says this error to me at th welcome screen also
this build is for development purpose only Do not distribute outside HTC without HTC`s permission
failure to comply may lead to legal action
i don't know what happen or how i can fix this so please if you can help me BIG thanks for ALL developers
[email protected]
monoar30 said:
hello All my Dear Boss & XDA Devloper
I face this in htc one M8 mobile
it doesn't open normal anymore and when it open it just show me the welcome screen n stop on it and when i try to reset factory it says this error to me at th welcome screen also
this build is for development purpose only Do not distribute outside HTC without HTC`s permission
failure to comply may lead to legal action
i don't know what happen or how i can fix this so please if you can help me BIG thanks for ALL developers
[email protected]
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Did u unlock ur bootloader recently? This messege comes after unlocking the bootloader. If the factory reset could not solve ur problem then flash the firmware and rom again. This might help