Hi, does anyone knows if this phone is going to be updated to 5.1 or the update will be only for the droid turbo? Because I have seen the news and no one is mentioning this phone and I'm very worried, jeje thanks [emoji28]
arcaneck said:
Hi, does anyone knows if this phone is going to be updated to 5.1 or the update will be only for the droid turbo? Because I have seen the news and no one is mentioning this phone and I'm very worried, jeje thanks [emoji28]
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You don't have to be worried about, Turbo and Maxx are the same phone with different software, so they should get the update mostly at the same time.
You have been hearing this it's because Turbo would get directly updated to 5.1, which it's a different story for the Maxx that already have Lollipop.
Galaxo60 said:
You don't have to be worried about, Turbo and Maxx are the same phone with different software, so they should get the update mostly at the same time.
You have been hearing this it's because Turbo would get directly updated to 5.1, which it's a different story for the Maxx that already have Lollipop.
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I wouldn't assume that. OEMs have a finite of updates they will push and unless they see a dire need to, may not push the Maxx to 5.1. It happens all the time. An OEM will move a device to the next OS version, and being that 5.1.1 is still Lollipop they may not consider it worth the resources to update to it, especially since (correct me if wrong) the international versions do not use VoLTE.
yes it will be updated to 5.1, but i think droid turbo will make it first, then us.
I am sure the Brazil version will get 5.1.x, not sure about the other builds/countries though.
adrynalyne said:
I wouldn't assume that. OEMs have a finite of updates they will push and unless they see a dire need to, may not push the Maxx to 5.1. It happens all the time. An OEM will move a device to the next OS version, and being that 5.1.1 is still Lollipop they may not consider it worth the resources to update to it, especially since (correct me if wrong) the international versions do not use VoLTE.
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Well, since India Turbo just launched, and Brazil is also very important to Motorola fairly sure they will continue to get updates. India launched with a version a hair behind Brazil and Mexico's Lollipop. They will both be equal at some point, with newer update.
If the Moto X and Moto G continue to get updates, so with the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo.
And last, we now will have CM 12.1 which is based on 5.1. So, we have 5.1. DONE. Don't need OEM, sir.
Skrilax_CZ said:
Done. I have also moved to CM12.1 from now on, so I'll not be backporting latest set of patches back to CM-12.0
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Steve-x said:
I am sure the Brazil version will get 5.1.x, not sure about the other builds/countries though.
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Then you can just flash Brazil's 5.1.x. I converted my Mexico and Puerto Rico Moto Maxx to India Moto Turbo. Just as easy to convert them to Brazil Moto Maxx.
That is, if you absolutely want just stock and not a custom ROM like CM 12.1, which is 5.1.
Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225 will have Lollipop 5.1 before Verizon gives it Droid Turbo -- courtesy CM 12.1 and @Skrilax_CZ.
If any Moto Maxx XT1250 users also want CM 12.1, just contact @Skrilax_CZ.
ChazzMatt said:
Well, since India Turbo just launched, and Brazil is also very important to Motorola fairly sure they will continue to get updates. India launched with a version a hair behind Brazil and Mexico's Lollipop. They will both be equal at some point, with newer update.
If the Moto X and Moto G continue to get updates, so with the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo.
And last, we now will have CM 12.1 which is based on 5.1. So, we have 5.1. DONE. Don't need OEM, sir.
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Then you can just flash Brazil's 5.1.x. I converted my Mexico and Puerto Rico Moto Maxx to India Moto Turbo. Just as easy to convert them to Brazil Moto Maxx.
That is, if you absolutely want just stock and not a custom ROM like CM 12.1, which is 5.1.
Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225 will have Lollipop 5.1 before Verizon gives it Droid Turbo -- courtesy CM 12.1 and @Skrilax_CZ.
If any Moto Maxx XT1250 users also want CM 12.1, just contact @Skrilax_CZ.
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I assure you, you want (OEM) 5.1 if for no other reason than proper blobs. CM will never be able to provide those until Moto releases an update they can be pulled from.
It won't be much resources for them to upgrade from 5.0.x to 5.1.y - it costs resources if there were many underlying platform changes, which has not happened. So I'd simply say that next minor OTA for Maxx will be 5.1 based.
Skrilax_CZ said:
It won't be much resources for them to upgrade from 5.0.x to 5.1.y - it costs resources if there were many underlying platform changes, which has not happened. So I'd simply say that next minor OTA for Maxx will be 5.1 based.
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That depends on how well the Motorola components work with 5.1. If they do not, they must update them as well.
adrynalyne said:
That depends on how well the Motorola components work with 5.1. If they do not, they must update them as well.
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The problem with OS upgrading is mostly on plaftorm side. Qualcomm will upgrade their platform blobs / firmwares / sources, but Moto will need to reconfigure their setup (and there will be bugs etc.). That's where the problem usually lies and holds OTA updates (msm8960 phones to Kitkat from 4.1.2, now mam8960ab phones to LP etc.).
There is no virtual difference in the framework integration, since 5.1 is a bugfix release primarilly.
adrynalyne said:
That depends on how well the Motorola components work with 5.1. If they do not, they must update them as well.
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Motorola is already publicly committed to 5.1 for one Quark phone, the XT1254 Droid Turbo.
Just for support reasons alone, Motorola would want all the Quarks to have the same bug fixes. In support of that idea is Motorola themselves:
https://plus.google.com/+DavidSchuster/posts/cV4vDyyMmw2
David Schuster, a Senior Director of software management at Motorola:
There seems to be a number of negative comments about the decision that Motorola took to move to use Lollipop 5.1 rather than stay with the plan to deploy 5.0.2. We did NOT do this without weighing the various pros and cons but at the end of the day we felt it was the best path to ensure we deliver our consumers the best available solution.
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Motorola has said 5.0.2 has problems. They say 5.1 is much better.
If the 2013 and 2014 Moto X and 2013 Moto G will get 5.1, then so will all the Quarks which are much more recent, much more premium phones.
It's silly to suggest otherwise.
Skrilax_CZ said:
The problem with OS upgrading is mostly on plaftorm side. Qualcomm will upgrade their platform blobs / firmwares / sources, but Moto will need to reconfigure their setup (and there will be bugs etc.). That's where the problem usually lies and holds OTA updates (msm8960 phones to Kitkat from 4.1.2, now mam8960ab phones to LP etc.).
There is no virtual difference in the framework integration, since 5.1 is a bugfix release primarily.
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Therefore, if Motorola is publicly committed to a 5.1 update for the Droid Turbo XT1254, then a 5.1 update for the XT1225 Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo is also basically done at that point.
It's just GSM/HSPA/LTE, not CDMA/HSPA/LTE. Same Snapdragon 805, same RAM, same camera, same display. They are ALL Quark phones.
Yeah, Verizon wants to make sure VoLTE works fine in 5.1, but that's not even going to be an issue with the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225.
It's like getting your Doctoral degree and someone asking if you have your Masters.
It's not even a CARRIER approved release, like with Verizon. Verizon causes problems.
"According to David Schuster, a Senior Director of software management at Motorola, all of the devices we just mentioned won’t see Android 5.0 Lollipop, and will instead be updated from Android 4.4 KitKat straight to Android 5.1 Lollipop":
Moto X (1st & 2nd Gen)
Moto G (1st and 2nd Gen)
Moto G 4G LTE
DROID Turbo
Moto E
DROID Ultra
DROID Maxx
DROID Mini
https://plus.google.com/+DavidSchuster/posts/cV4vDyyMmw2
With respect the 2013 DROID Ultra family of devices... we are running into some "partner support" issues for the Lollipop upgrade. We are actively trying to work through these issue and I will update you guys as soon as I have more information. Sorry about not having clearer direction for you but my hands are a little tied at the moment until we work through the issue with our partner.
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Well, if it's DROID, then the difficult "partner" is Verizon. Not an issue with the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo.
While some of the Moto Maxx Quarks are sold by carriers, in Mexico and Brazil you can buy them straight from Motorola website. My Mexico Moto Maxx was bought straight from Motorola Mexico. In India, the just-launched XT1225 Moto Turbo is sold through an online retailer but is still a "factory" phone straight from Motorola (and sports the same FCC ID as all the other XT1225).
And thus receive updates straight from Motorola. My Mexico Moto Maxx when on 4.4.4 was only connected to wi-fi, did not have a sim card in it, but notified me of the 5.0.2 update. I declined and flashed it to India Turbo 5.0.2. manually.
Motorola has emphasized how important markets like India and Brazil are to their plans. They just convinced people in India to spend this amount of money on a phone (which launched with 5.0.2) and someone is implying it's not going to receive ANY future updates? :silly:
The only difference between any of the XT1225 is the carrier-sold models are sim locked, while the factory models are not. My Puerto Rico Moto Maxx was sim locked, but was unlocked before delivery, and both my Moto Maxx are flashed to India Moto Turbo Lollipop.
And once the XT1254 Droid Turbo 5.1 Lollipop update is ready, that means 5.1 for the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 is basically ready. Both have the same hardware, same CDMA/GSM/HSPA/LTE bands, same FCC ID.
ChazzMatt said:
Motorola is already publicly committed to 5.1 for one Quark phone, the XT1254 Droid Turbo.
Just for support reasons alone, Motorola would want all the Quarks to have the same bug fixes. In support of that idea is Motorola themselves:
https://plus.google.com/+DavidSchuster/posts/cV4vDyyMmw2
David Schuster, a Senior Director of software management at Motorola:
Motorola has said 5.0.2 has problems. They say 5.1 is much better.
If the 2013 and 2014 Moto X and 2013 Moto G will get 5.1, then so will all the Quarks which are much more recent, much more premium phones.
It's silly to suggest otherwise.
Therefore, if Motorola is publicly committed to a 5.1 update for the Droid Turbo XT1254, then a 5.1 update for the XT1225 Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo is also basically done at that point.
It's just GSM/HSPA/LTE, not CDMA/HSPA/LTE. Same Snapdragon 805, same RAM, same camera, same display. They are ALL Quark phones.
Yeah, Verizon wants to make sure VoLTE works fine in 5.1, but that's not even going to be an issue with the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo XT1225.
It's like getting your Doctoral degree and someone asking if you have your Masters.
It's not even a CARRIER approved release, like with Verizon. Verizon causes problems.
"According to David Schuster, a Senior Director of software management at Motorola, all of the devices we just mentioned won’t see Android 5.0 Lollipop, and will instead be updated from Android 4.4 KitKat straight to Android 5.1 Lollipop":
Moto X (1st & 2nd Gen)
Moto G (1st and 2nd Gen)
Moto G 4G LTE
DROID Turbo
Moto E
DROID Ultra
DROID Maxx
DROID Mini
https://plus.google.com/+DavidSchuster/posts/cV4vDyyMmw2
Well, if it's DROID, then the difficult "partner" is Verizon. Not an issue with the Moto Maxx/Moto Turbo.
While some of the Moto Maxx Quarks are sold by carriers, in Mexico and Brazil you can buy them straight from Motorola website. My Mexico Moto Maxx was bought straight from Motorola Mexico. In India, the just-launched XT1225 Moto Turbo is sold through an online retailer but is still a "factory" phone straight from Motorola (and sports the same FCC ID as all the other XT1225).
And thus receive updates straight from Motorola. My Mexico Moto Maxx when on 4.4.4 was only connected to wi-fi, did not have a sim card in it, but notified me of the 5.0.2 update. I declined and flashed it to India Turbo 5.0.2. manually.
Motorola has emphasized how important markets like India and Brazil are to their plans. They just convinced people in India to spend this amount of money on a phone (which launched with 5.0.2) and someone is implying it's not going to receive ANY future updates? :silly:
The only difference between any of the XT1225 is the carrier-sold models are sim locked, while the factory models are not. My Puerto Rico Moto Maxx was sim locked, but was unlocked before delivery, and both my Moto Maxx are flashed to India Moto Turbo Lollipop.
And once the XT1254 Droid Turbo 5.1 Lollipop update is ready, that means 5.1 for the U.S. Moto Maxx XT1250 is basically ready. Both have the same hardware, same CDMA/GSM/HSPA/LTE bands, same FCC ID.
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That "difficult" partner is more likely whoever provides drivers for those non-ARM cores. This same issue affects the 2013 MotoX.
I'm glad you have faith in Motorola, but far too often I've seen OEMs walk away from their phones when it comes to updates.
You are right, 5.1 makes 5.0.x look like garbage. 5.1 makes my devices fly.
Well now that turbo has 5.1 will there be an update to our maxx purchased dirwctly from motorola?
screege said:
Well now that turbo has 5.1 will there be an update to our maxx purchased dirwctly from motorola?
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I think they would push first the 2015 devices, and then start to be worried about the updates of older devices.
Hey guys,
Let me first apologize if I'm not at the right place.
Didn't know there were two different "versions" of the Moto X (2013 & 2014) but my dad asked me to order him a specific case for his Moto X and I don't know which version exactly he owns.
Now, asking him details about his screen's size, build number of whatever informatoin appart from his phone number or email address isn't really an option (sigh!), so I'd like to know which version of the Moto X was sold at Rogers here in Canada hoping that they didn't sell both.
And if both versions were sold, I might be able to make him fetch his current build number so, what is the latest build number for this phone?
Thanks a lot in advance!
P.S. : I also asked this question in the Moto X forums...
HiKsFiles said:
Hey guys,
Let me first apologize if I'm not at the right place.
Didn't know there were two different "versions" of the Moto X (2013 & 2014) but my dad asked me to order him a specific case for his Moto X and I don't know which version exactly he owns.
Now, asking him details about his screen's size, build number of whatever informatoin appart from his phone number or email address isn't really an option (sigh!), so I'd like to know which version of the Moto X was sold at Rogers here in Canada hoping that they didn't sell both.
And if both versions were sold, I might be able to make him fetch his current build number so, what is the latest build number for this phone?
Thanks a lot in advance!
P.S. : I also asked this question in the Moto X forums...
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Go to settings, then about phone.
If it says "Moto X" it's from 2013 with a smaller screen.
If it says "Moto X (Second gen)" it's the 2014 with the bigger screen.
Sent from my XT1095
Thanks, he owns a first gen afterall.