I just got my Moto X. Much better than my really old Droid 3, gonna miss the slide-out keyboard though.
Like a dummy, I updated my phone to KitKat. (4.4.something) Thanks to nTelos being a pretty small carrier, nobody has a 4.2.2 file for me to flash back, therefore, I am stuck with an unrooted Moto X with no way to downgrade.
I'm pretty sure I'm a lost cause, but is there any way to root? I was considering flashing another carrier's sbf onto it, but then I risk bricking it.
Thanks for the help,
Giggybyte
edit: Read around the Moto X forums a bit. It's apparently not possible, and there's even a large bounty for whoever can figure it out. My bad, should've searched first.
If your Moto X was built in 2014 this link (http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/china-middleman-t2751177) can give you information on who to contact to unlock the bootloader and thus open up the possibility for root. It'll run you $45, but if you are really committed to root, that's the only option with 4.4.2 (as well as any future version).
giggybyte said:
I just got my Moto X. Much better than my really old Droid 3, gonna miss the slide-out keyboard though.
Like a dummy, I updated my phone to KitKat. (4.4.something) Thanks to nTelos being a pretty small carrier, nobody has a 4.2.2 file for me to flash back, therefore, I am stuck with an unrooted Moto X with no way to downgrade.
I'm pretty sure I'm a lost cause, but is there any way to root? I was considering flashing another carrier's sbf onto it, but then I risk bricking it.
Thanks for the help,
Giggybyte
edit: Read around the Moto X forums a bit. It's apparently not possible, and there's even a large bounty for whoever can figure it out. My bad, should've searched first.
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What is the model number of your nTelos Moto X?
I just SIM-CRACKED the Sprint Moto X for use on any GSM carrier.
Its not bootloader-unlock, but it might help you use a different carrier, if that is your goal.
My method might should work for you. Myself and others are also very interested in knowing if it works for the nTelos X, and additionally what the model number is. Please advise. I believe it should be XT1049: is that correct?
SIM-CRACK thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...int-xt1056-t2825155/post54338871#post54338871
Thanks in advance for replying with the information I requested. :good:
I know there is a thread about someone using a MAXX for this purpose here - but I wondered if anyone here specifically had experience using a Telcel GSM SIM in Mexico with a Moto X.
Just a little backstory on this... I am going to Cancun in October. I have a Samsung S4 but read that it has issues using data with a GSM sim... so I did some research and, from what I have read, my best option was to get a Moto X because the radio in 4.4.4 fixed a bunch of issues with using a GSM sim and that the Moto X was truly sim unlocked - where the MAXX was locked during a recent update. From a layman's perspective, it is almost impossible to determine what the reality is... but I made the jump anyway.
I actually got Verizon to give me a free upgrade 15 months ahead of schedule when I told them that I would just add a new line and pay the ETF rather than paying full retail for the phone... after explaining to them that I wanted the Moto X because it was sim unlocked. The good news is that they didn't even extend my contract... they just let me buy a new subsidized phone, apparently.
So, now to the question at hand... has anyone had experience doing this? Do I need to do something to make it work properly?
Can anybody give me some info on the moto x republic wireless varient? I'm thinking of switching to republic wireless and grabbing the moto x. How is the development for that varient? Does it have root,unlock boot loader,Roms,etc? Or would the Roms for the moto x work as a unified thing? Would greatly appreciate more info on this. Thanks
marcviado said:
Can anybody give me some info on the moto x republic wireless varient? I'm thinking of switching to republic wireless and grabbing the moto x. How is the development for that varient? Does it have root,unlock boot loader,Roms,etc? Or would the Roms for the moto x work as a unified thing? Would greatly appreciate more info on this. Thanks
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A new (if you can find one to order) Republic Wireless Moto X (XT1049) will likely come with Android 4.4.2 (that's the most recent Android version for Republic Wireless). On 4.4.2, you can unlock the bootloader using jcase's Sunshine exploit app and get root by flashing a custom recovery. You can also GSM SIM-unlock if you want (by flashing to a Sprint ROM and back). You will not find much of anything in the way of custom developed ROMs for the RW Moto X. If you flash a custom rom such as CyanogenMod, at the very least you will no longer have the hybrid WIFI calling features that Republic Wireless adds in themselves. I'm not sure whether it would even activate or work at all through Republic's service. Any custom ROM for the Republic Wireless Moto X will likely need to be a tweaked version of the stock base ROM.
EDIT: It looks like RW is still selling the Moto X (2013). I wonder when they will run out.
is there an easy way to convert the Republic Wireless Moto X to a sprint variant? Actually it doesnt matter as long as I can have the gsm part unlocked. Can the RW variant be sim unlocked for use with gsm carriers?
marcviado said:
Can anybody give me some info on the moto x republic wireless varient? I'm thinking of switching to republic wireless and grabbing the moto x. How is the development for that varient? Does it have root,unlock boot loader,Roms,etc? Or would the Roms for the moto x work as a unified thing? Would greatly appreciate more info on this. Thanks
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If you decide to go with RW, use the link in my signature. It will save you $20 off your service.
x000x said:
is there an easy way to convert the Republic Wireless Moto X to a sprint variant? Actually it doesnt matter as long as I can have the gsm part unlocked. Can the RW variant be sim unlocked for use with gsm carriers?
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No, and no.
Sent from my XT1049 using Tapatalk
brainwash1 said:
No, and no.
Sent from my XT1049 using Tapatalk
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so it is basically worthless junk unless a person wants to use it on republic. gotcha.
x000x said:
so it is basically worthless junk unless a person wants to use it on republic. gotcha.
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Unless you want to use it outside the US, I don't know why you'd want to use a carrier other than Republic. But you could use it as WiFi only, especially with calling now available with Google Hangouts.
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brainwash1 said:
Unless you want to use it outside the US, I don't know why you'd want to use a carrier other than Republic. But you could use it as WiFi only, especially with calling now available with Google Hangouts.
Sent from my XT1049 using Tapatalk
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I bought it off ebay, from the description I thought I was buying a sprint version, I returned it but it got sent back to me due to the seller having an invalid shipping address. I'm not really interested in republic, and wondering what else it could be used for. Looks like the options are slim. Maybe I'll just re-sell it.
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If you decide to go with RW, use the link in my signature. It will save you $20 off your service.
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Sam, firstly thanks a lot for your hard work in with the sim unlock. It is absolutely amazing stuff and reading about your journey was super interesting.
I have ONE question though, and I've looked around but I'm unable to find the answer over here. If I buy a XT1056 (sprint), and use your unlock method and a unlocked bootloader, and if I flashed a X1049 ROM onto it (assuming I would be able to do that) would I be able to use the device on Republic Wireless?
My guess is probably not, as I'm thinking that RW is pretty specific with their MEID #s. But, that being said, I don't really know.
As far as options on Republic, you pretty much have the best option that you have for all Moto X:
You really don't necessarily want an aftermarket rom, as it breaks things like Active Notifications and the like. On RW, you'd totally break your service.
That's why God invented Xposed. There sure are a ton of modifications that can be done through Xposed...in short...it rules.
permanentpink said:
Sam, firstly thanks a lot for your hard work in with the sim unlock. It is absolutely amazing stuff and reading about your journey was super interesting.
I have ONE question though, and I've looked around but I'm unable to find the answer over here. If I buy a XT1056 (sprint), and use your unlock method and a unlocked bootloader, and if I flashed a X1049 ROM onto it (assuming I would be able to do that) would I be able to use the device on Republic Wireless?
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Hi. @SubliminalME is correct -- you still won't be able to use it on RW.
You will however, be able to use an unlocked XT1056 on Sprint (assuming clean esn) and any GSM provider. The Sprint variant (or bootloader-unlocked RW unit -- they can be sim-unlocked too) supports full HSPA+ on AT&T and its MVNOs, and supports HSPA+ only in re-farmed areas for T-Mobile and its MVNOs (non-refarmed areas will only get EDGE data). No LTE on any carrier except Sprint - unless your carrier just happens to use band 25 (1900mhz) LTE..
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Hi. @SubliminalME is correct -- you still won't be able to use it on RW.
You will however, be able to use an unlocked XT1056 on Sprint (assuming clean esn) and any GSM provider. The Sprint variant (or bootloader-unlocked RW unit -- they can be sim-unlocked too) supports full HSPA+ on AT&T and its MVNOs, and supports HSPA+ only in re-farmed areas for T-Mobile and its MVNOs (non-refarmed areas will only get EDGE data). No LTE on any carrier except Sprint - unless your carrier just happens to use band 25 (1900mhz) LTE..
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Thanks @samwathegreat and @SubliminalME
I don't install custom roms anymore, Xposed has given me everything I wanted. From a rooting/using Xposed etc standpoint, what would you guys recommend? RW Moto X on RW, Sprint/RW Moto X on Ting/Cricket/Straight Talk (after unlocking etc) or Nexus 5 on Ting/Cricket/Straight Talk? I live in Chicago and it appears this area has been "refarmed" by T-Mobile, but currently on my Galaxy Nexus I'm not getting very good reception.
Hello,
i am thinking to buy moto x dev edition form ebay as it available for cheap.
the ebay page of seller says its verizon XT1060 dev edition but then he adds GSM unlocked, i know for a fact that verizon devices are CDMA not GSM. please help.
other question is will i be able to install any rom from the forum in XT1060 or there are limitations. i had some bad experience with my htc one s (i had gotten the C2 variant instead of the original one with S4 ) if anyone wants to have a look at the ebay page here is the link
and ghost is the code name of moto x right ?
The phone should say Dev Edition on the back cover. Verizon does use CDMA, but the phones are GSM capable for world use. Once you unlock the bootloader, yes you can install other ROMs, but you may lose some of the core Moto X features like active display and touchless controls that are only available via stock firmware.
rjcrystal199 said:
Hello,
i am thinking to buy moto x dev edition form ebay as it available for cheap.
the ebay page of seller says its verizon XT1060 dev edition but then he adds GSM unlocked, i know for a fact that verizon devices are CDMA not GSM. please help.
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Verizon's LTE phones are SIM Unlocked and can be used with 3G/4G/LTE SIMS from GSM carriers. For example, I can put my T-Mobile USA SIM into my XT1060 Dev Edition for Verizon phone, and get T-Mobile service.
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other question is will i be able to install any rom from the forum in XT1060 or there are limitations. i had some bad experience with my htc one s (i had gotten the C2 variant instead of the original one with S4 ) if anyone wants to have a look at the ebay page here is the link
and ghost is the code name of moto x right ?
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The XT1060 does use CDMA, GSM and LTE radios. Its radio code or modem files are different from the other variants (like XT1053, XT1058,etc). So as long as the custom rom you are flashing doesn't include radios, OR tells you how to get your stock radios working, you should be fine.
The Verizon Dev Edition DOES have the verizon logo on the back too. In other words, that may be a "stock" dev edition photo, rather than the actual phone you're buying.
I have XT1053 (Moto X 2013 Developer Edition GSM) and it is broken. I use it on AT&T and LTE support is important. It was on 4.2.2 and I never upgraded to 4.4 as it seemed all later versions just brought different problems and I never needed any new features. I haven't followed 5.1 too much but if it was any good there would not be threads here about downgrading on its forum, right?
My options are (I need to do something fast because I leave for vacation in Europe at the end of the month and would like to use phone there. I don't want anything larger than 5"):
1) Send it to Motorola and for $100 they will fix it. Probably just replace with refurb. But what version of Android will it come with? Does anyone know?
2) Get 2014 Moto X, but what version? It seems "Pure Edition" (XT1095) didn't support AT& LTE bands out of the box but they were upgraded later and that enabled it. Yet I found posts that AT&T IMEI database apparently doesn't list XT1095 as having these bands and phone doesn't connect to LTE on AT&T. One has to proved IMEI from another phone. My AT&T SIM is now associated with 1053, so maybe I would be OK? Has all this been officially rectified?
Has Lollipop upgrade on 2014 Moto X been as bad as it was on 2013?
3) Get XT1097 (AT&T version of Moto X 2014) - I don't like the fact that it only comes with 16GB of storage. Also, can it be rooted/bootloader/SIM unlocked?
4) Get some other phone and here I just don't know what to consider in 5" size because I haven't been following Android phones recently.
Feedback and answers appreciated.