I tried to get TMobile service for my Nexus one but it wouldn't pick up 3G. So I called Google tech support and they said my Nexus one is an AT&T only nexus one. What's up with that? I thought this was an unlocked phone able to handle any GSM carrier? Can I get it to work on TMobile?
justindri said:
I tried to get TMobile service for my Nexus one but it wouldn't pick up 3G. So I called Google tech support and they said my Nexus one is an AT&T only nexus one. What's up with that? I thought this was an unlocked phone able to handle any GSM carrier? Can I get it to work on TMobile?
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maybe they meant AT&T 3G, it should pickup the EDGE network on Tmo or you are in a dead zone.
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I tried to get TMobile service for my Nexus one but it wouldn't pick up 3G. So I called Google tech support and they said my Nexus one is an AT&T only nexus one. What's up with that? I thought this was an unlocked phone able to handle any GSM carrier? Can I get it to work on TMobile?
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it will work on tmobiles edge service, but not on 3G. tmobile and att have different frequencies for their 3G signals. and yes, there are 2 kinds of nexus ones. one for tmobiles frequency, and one for atts frequency.
If I root the phone will I be able to use it on tmobile?
No, Tmobile runs 3G through 1700mhz band & ATT runs 3G through 850mhz & 1900mhz bands. Both carriers use 850/1900mhz bands for gprs & edge network. There is no way to change the frequencies your phone uses because its a hardware issue. This has been attempted many many times with the US always getting phones last.
This is something to determine when first buying the phone. Did t-mobile sell you the wrong version of the nexus?
justindri said:
I tried to get TMobile service for my Nexus one but it wouldn't pick up 3G. So I called Google tech support and they said my Nexus one is an AT&T only nexus one. What's up with that? I thought this was an unlocked phone able to handle any GSM carrier? Can I get it to work on TMobile?
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There is a difference between "unlocked", meaning - any SIM can go in and the phone won't stop it from working, and "correct band for GSM/3G", which is in hardware - the phone has support for X different frequencies of GSM and Y different frequencies of UMTS (3G), and if the carrier you're trying to connect to doesn't work with any of those frequencies and works with some other ones - having a working SIM won't help you, since the phone won't find the working frequencies.
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Hey everyone. So i have a question that i can't find on here so im going to ask it. I have a Verizon HTC one unlocked. The sim car works fine and i can do everything on the phone with the T-mobile sim card. The issue is its always Edge data. Is there a specfic APN i have to use? something im not seeing? Does anyone else have this issue? It is a stock factory HTC One, nothing custom.
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Hey everyone. So i have a question that i can't find on here so im going to ask it. I have a Verizon HTC one unlocked. The sim car works fine and i can do everything on the phone with the T-mobile sim card. The issue is its always Edge data. Is there a specfic APN i have to use? something im not seeing? Does anyone else have this issue? It is a stock factory HTC One, nothing custom.
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I don't think the Verizon model will have the correct radio frequencies to use T-Mo's LTE or HSPA+ network, hence you're stuck on Edge. If you're staying with T-Mo, I'd suggest selling your current One and buying a T-Mo specific HTC One.
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I don't think the Verizon model will have the correct radio frequencies to use T-Mo's LTE or HSPA+ network, hence you're stuck on Edge. If you're staying with T-Mo, I'd suggest selling your current One and buying a T-Mo specific HTC One.
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This is pulled from Verizons website
Network: LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS(1900/2100) aGPS capable for E911 emergency location, aGPS (assisted), sGPS (simultaneous), Standalone GPS, eCompass, GLONASS
T-mobile uses the 1900 Mhz base band and the HSPA as well. So i don't see the issue in that one.
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This is pulled from Verizons website
Network: LTE, CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)
Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS(1900/2100) aGPS capable for E911 emergency location, aGPS (assisted), sGPS (simultaneous), Standalone GPS, eCompass, GLONASS
T-mobile uses the 1900 Mhz base band and the HSPA as well. So i don't see the issue in that one.
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From what I can tell, nobody uses the dual 1900/2100 to achieve 4G like TMO. The UMTS referred to on that phone is for worldwide use, not US. So while it may have the frequencies, it is not set up to use them like TMO. Your software and firmware are set up to work with Verizon and overseas, not with a competitor like TMO. TMO refers to theirs as HSPA+. However, it might work on the new "reframed" 1900 bands (which is called HSPA), but those are not very highly deployed. Unfortunately, I don't see LTE on that list of frequencies. The TMO LTE is really great. EDIT: I mean TMO LTE, which is also 1700/2100.
I suppose you could try unlocking it and flashing the TMO radio, but there is an entire thread on trying to unlock TMO frequencies (in that case on the developer version), and no one has figured it out yet.
I concur that your best bet would be to sell the phone and get a TMO model.
stevedebi said:
From what I can tell, nobody uses the dual 1900/2100 to achieve 4G like TMO. The UMTS referred to on that phone is for worldwide use, not US. So while it may have the frequencies, it is not set up to use them like TMO. Your software and firmware are set up to work with Verizon and overseas, not with a competitor like TMO. TMO refers to theirs as HSPA+. However, it might work on the new "reframed" 1900 bands (which is called HSPA), but those are not very highly deployed. Unfortunately, I don't see LTE on that list of frequencies. The TMO LTE is really great. EDIT: I mean TMO LTE, which is also 1700/2100.
I suppose you could try unlocking it and flashing the TMO radio, but there is an entire thread on trying to unlock TMO frequencies (in that case on the developer version), and no one has figured it out yet.
I concur that your best bet would be to sell the phone and get a TMO model.
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Yeah thats what im thinking. I need to contact and t-mobile rep and see if the re-farmed LTE here. Ill call and ask.
Alright so i called the rep and he said the area i am has been re-farmed to the 1900 range and i should be getting at least HSPA/3G but im not. Very odd issue
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Hey everyone. So i have a question that i can't find on here so im going to ask it. I have a Verizon HTC one unlocked. The sim car works fine and i can do everything on the phone with the T-mobile sim card. The issue is its always Edge data. Is there a specfic APN i have to use? something im not seeing? Does anyone else have this issue? It is a stock factory HTC One, nothing custom.
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Verison use the CDMA, maybe that's why you can only use 2.5G network, just like some phones in China, they only have GSM in common
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Verison use the CDMA, maybe that's why you can only use 2.5G network, just like some phones in China, they only have GSM in common
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yes but this phone has 4g lte already in it which accepts the sim card. Also, i have seen other verizon htc ones with t-mobile and never had a issue. I fell i may have to use a custom rom.
super-6-1 said:
yes but this phone has 4g lte already in it which accepts the sim card. Also, i have seen other verizon htc ones with t-mobile and never had a issue. I fell i may have to use a custom rom.
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What he is referring to is that what Verizon uses as "3G" is CDMA technology. So although they (T-Mobile and Verizon) may be on the same frequency they're using totally different technologies. Just because it has a sim card slot for a Verizon sim doesn't mean the device will be compatible with another carrier's sim. A custom ROM would not resolve this issue. Your best bet would be to sell this device and purchase one from T-Mobile. :fingers-crossed:
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What he is referring to is that what Verizon uses as "3G" is CDMA technology. So although they (T-Mobile and Verizon) may be on the same frequency they're using totally different technologies. Just because it has a sim card slot for a Verizon sim doesn't mean the device will be compatible with another carrier's sim. A custom ROM would not resolve this issue. Your best bet would be to sell this device and purchase one from T-Mobile. :fingers-crossed:
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I know what the best way to go is but i am very curious as to what is really keeping it from going out of edge. baseband? Is the TMO and Verizon radios the same? these are things i need to know! >.<
super-6-1 said:
I know what the best way to go is but i am very curious as to what is really keeping it from going out of edge. baseband? Is the TMO and Verizon radios the same? these are things i need to know! >.<
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My understanding is that the devices run on different systems for 3G and different LTE bands. You wont get more than GSM compatibility (GPRS, EDGE). Hopefully it is something that a software hack can fix but if you read around all the HTC One forums you will see no one has found it. Right now it is not possible.
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What he is referring to is that what Verizon uses as "3G" is CDMA technology. So although they (T-Mobile and Verizon) may be on the same frequency they're using totally different technologies. Just because it has a sim card slot for a Verizon sim doesn't mean the device will be compatible with another carrier's sim. A custom ROM would not resolve this issue. Your best bet would be to sell this device and purchase one from T-Mobile. :fingers-crossed:
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My question is that HTC makes phones for all T mobile verison sprint the same, so I believe its just software problem that we cant use Tmobile 4g lte on Verizon unlocked phone. SO does anyone have any comment for that?
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My question is that HTC makes phones for all T mobile verison sprint the same, so I believe its just software problem that we cant use Tmobile 4g lte on Verizon unlocked phone. SO does anyone have any comment for that?
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It is hardware not software that is the issue. The T-Mobile variant has different bands than the other variants including Verizon. T-Mobile is a GSM variant while Verizon is a CDMA variant. Here is a comparison of the specs for the variants.
CDMA and GSM technology requires the antenna to be done differently. If they are not programmed to use those signals. Nothing you can dox will change it short of putting a new antenna in.
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It is hardware not software that is the issue. The T-Mobile variant has different bands than the other variants including Verizon. T-Mobile is a GSM variant while Verizon is a CDMA variant. Here is a comparison of the specs for the variants.
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SO how do i know if my phone is Verizon CDMA unlocked or GSM unlocked
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SO how do i know if my phone is Verizon CDMA unlocked or GSM unlocked
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Because you can only unlock GSM. Cdma uses the serial/esn number of the device.
Has there been any update on this? I called tmobile and they said it was simply because I couldn't put in the APN. So, there's no chance that rooting the phone and putting a tmobile rom on it would fix the problem and let me get more than edge speeds.
I myself have been wondering the answer to this. The device might seem the same but under the cover they are different. The actual daughter board which the camera, vibrating thing, volume rocker, power button are connected to are fairly different from each other. The CDMA variant is not compatible with the GSM variant. Not even by adding a CDMA daughter board to the GSM motherboard and vice versa, the are made quiet differently and will not be able to use GSM bands on a CDMA m7
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I steered away from this for a while after someone told me that AT&T doesn't use band 4 LTE. But I'm hearing isolated reports of people with LTE on straight talk getting 8 to 10 Mbps. I'm all stock right now and just got a new ST sim that works with "tfdata". Anyone care to share how they got it working?
http://goo.gl/fXJHjU
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You said you're all stock now. For LTE to work, you need to flash an LTE-capable radio. There are lots of threads that can help you with that, but here's one to start with: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2358931 [NOTE: I'm not sure all parts of that guide work with KitKat, so ask someone to make sure.]
Also, are you sure you're in one of the areas where AT&T has band 4 LTE? The easiest way to check is to go here: http://reboot.fcc.gov/spectrumdashboard/searchMap.seam
Click on your state, then filter by name (AT&T) and by license category (AWS-1). If your area doesn't show up there, you're out of luck. If it does, there's a chance, but no guarantee, that you can get LTE service.
I'm on Net10, which is functionally identical to Straight Talk for this kind of thing, and mine instantly worked once I activated a SIM card after LTE service went live. I got speeds as high as 18mbps down, but ping times were around 150 ms, not any better than HSPA. Also, I had issues where the radio would fail to switch back to HSPA sometimes after I left an LTE area, and I would have to go into the phone settings menu to disable LTE data to get it working again. Because of those issues, I haven't had LTE enabled lately, but I'll probably go back because there are areas I go where the HSPA network is too congested to get a usable connection.
Okay Thanx. I just confirmed AT&T doesn't have AWS (frq 1730 - 2135) in my area. However, MetroPCS, Verizon and T-Mobile did. How would you go about going with MetroPCS or Verizon?? I thought they were CDMA carriers.
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I am pretty confident that is the issue but I thought I should check with you all first.
Seems that Verizon's unlocked SG6 does not support band 4 which is the 4g band of tmobile, and naturally I cannot get 4g. Everything else works flawlessly but I cannot get 4g at all. Using my SG5 I get 4g no problem but not with the SG6.
Can anyone confirm that this is the case before I return it to Verizon? I just got it today and thought it was an amazing piece of technology but I might have to return it now...
tia
Why didn't you just get a T-Mobile version? Try going into the service menu *#2263# and go band selection and see if you can do it there.
libuser said:
I am pretty confident that is the issue but I thought I should check with you all first.
Seems that Verizon's unlocked SG6 does not support band 4 which is the 4g band of tmobile, and naturally I cannot get 4g. Everything else works flawlessly but I cannot get 4g at all. Using my SG5 I get 4g no problem but not with the SG6.
Can anyone confirm that this is the case before I return it to Verizon? I just got it today and thought it was an amazing piece of technology but I might have to return it now...
tia
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I found this article that may help explain why Verizon's phone will not work on TMobile Network;
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2407896,00.asp
For what it's worth, I did a GOOGLE search and found this and several other articles about the difference between CDMA and GSM phones..(from what i understand, TMOBILE is GSM and Verizon and SPrint use CDMA)
I do hope you figure somehting out... GOOD LUCK
libuser said:
I am pretty confident that is the issue but I thought I should check with you all first.
Seems that Verizon's unlocked SG6 does not support band 4 which is the 4g band of tmobile, and naturally I cannot get 4g. Everything else works flawlessly but I cannot get 4g at all. Using my SG5 I get 4g no problem but not with the SG6.
Can anyone confirm that this is the case before I return it to Verizon? I just got it today and thought it was an amazing piece of technology but I might have to return it now...
tia
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Were you able to get LTE/4G on T-Mobile using Verizon S6? From the specs list, it says Verizon's S6 support band 13 and band 4. Band 4 is what T-Mobile uses for LTE.
I'm curious to find out because I am looking to purchase the Verizon S6 and use it on T-Mobile.
TIA
T-Mobile also uses band 2 LTE in some areas- something worth looking at.
I have a Nexus 6 that I bought from Motorola.com and am using it with an activated nano sim card on Verizon. Previously I have had no problems with getting signal (LTE or 3G) but now that it just updated to 5.1.1 I can only get 3G when network settings are on "LTE/CDMA" and I get LTE when set on "LTE/GSM/UMTS". I am in an area that has pretty strong 4G but cant get it unless I change the setting. Has anyone else had a problem with this? Also I am open to suggestions for alternate ROMS that have been found to work well on Verizon. Thanks.
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I have a Nexus 6 that I bought from Motorola.com and am using it with an activated nano sim card on Verizon. Previously I have had no problems with getting signal (LTE or 3G) but now that it just updated to 5.1.1 I can only get 3G when network settings are on "LTE/CDMA" and I get LTE when set on "LTE/GSM/UMTS". I am in an area that has pretty strong 4G but cant get it unless I change the setting. Has anyone else had a problem with this? Also I am open to suggestions for alternate ROMS that have been found to work well on Verizon. Thanks.
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Verify that you are using the correct APN. However, I believe the correct setting for you would be LTE/GSM as Verizon is a GSM carrier.
LTE/CDMA works fine for me on Verizon.
Verizon is not a GSM Carrier. They are CDMA just like Sprint. The only reason both companies use SIM cards is for LTE only.
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Verizon is not a GSM Carrier. They are CDMA just like Sprint. The only reason both companies use SIM cards is for LTE only.
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Thanks for clarification! I thought AT&T was the other CDMA and the rest were GSM besides Sprint. Again, thanks for setting me straight.
AT&T and T-Mobile are GSM, Sprint and Verizon are CDMA. Just for future reference.