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I've been using my Touch Diamond for a couple of days now, and just read about the lens protector that apparently needs to be removed in order to take decent pictures.
Now I find, that it is impossible for me to remove the back cover!! I tried all sort of ways of pressing and sliding, but now I'm afraid to damage the device by using too much force...
Have any of you guys have similar problems?
Does have something to do with the heat build-up from the battery the expands the plastic cover?
Clean the back side so you have friction, and push UP. Should work. Just did it
pedmond said:
Clean the back side so you have friction, and push UP. Should work. Just did it
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That worked! You are GOLD, thanks.
Or you could throw it really hard towards the floor. Should also work...
I'm sorry, I couldn't resist
this has to be one of toughest problems ever to be resolved here!
a hammer would have helped...
I find taking the stylus out and pushing from that corner the easiest way. Its a bit of a pain to get off if you have greasy hands!!
this sounds disgusting. it sounds like his phone is submersed in oil and he needs to wash it to remove the cover =\
i also heard if you rub the diamond against your head several times then place it against a wall...it will stick..like a balloon.
now you try =\
Dude, WTF, you're a puss. You couldnt get the back cover on the phone open?
Clicky-clicky!
As you know by now, I managed to get the back cover off (...), but now I'm anoyed by a clicky-clicky unstability on the back - along the right side just above where it says "HTC innovation". It seems there too much room (or something) just under that spot.
Anyone else experiencing this?
zyborg said:
As you know by now, I managed to get the back cover off (...), but now I'm anoyed by a clicky-clicky unstability on the back - along the right side just above where it says "HTC innovation". It seems there too much room (or something) just under that spot.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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My Diamond has a very solid feel, so I'm afraid I can't help you there. Just to make sure: are you certain the back cover is well inserted?
Trust me, I have (tried to make sure that it's properly inserted). I'm now considering sticking some aluminum foil in there - as this should also act as a heat sink (I'm also experiencing intense heat from the processor when WiFi is turned on for more than 5 minutes).
Maybe then the foil will also fill out that extra space, I don't know.
In general, I think that the back cover is VERY poor quality and really needs to be redone/redesigned. The diamond shapes on the back is a mess, as the device rocks back and forth when you have it on a completely flat surface (like a table) and operate the screen/buttons. It should be made with a completely flush back and a more sturdy plastic material (thicker, at least). Don't you think?
zyborg said:
Trust me, I have (tried to make sure that it's properly inserted). I'm now considering sticking some aluminum foil in there - as this should also act as a heat sink (I'm also experiencing intense heat from the processor when WiFi is turned on for more than 5 minutes).
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Probably a bad idea. Sure aluminium might transfer heat well, but it also transfers electricity very well.
If yours is asloose as you say there's the risk of it moving and making Sony-style exploding battery fireworks.
What if the foil just sits in the bottom part and doesn't come into contact with the battery? Does that still present a risk?
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Probably a bad idea. Sure aluminium might transfer heat well, but it also transfers electricity very well.
If yours is asloose as you say there's the risk of it moving and making Sony-style exploding battery fireworks.
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What if the foil just sits in the bottom part and doesn't come into contact with the battery? Does that still present a risk?
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I don't have a Diamond yet to answer that properly. It was just a general warning about putting metal foil in electronics. If you can see ANY way for it to move from where you put it to any other component or connector - don't do it. And that includes small parts of foil that may flake off from rubbing when the case moves (which is exactly what you're trying to stop, soit's potentially an issue).
I'd not risk it myself, but you probably wouldn't die. Probably. Much.
By the way, I tested the aluminum foil, and it worked well to remove the clicky-clicky sensation/sound, but I quickly removed it again after reading the warning above.
Can anyone suggest an alternative material to fill the gap?
zyborg said:
As you know by now, I managed to get the back cover off (...), but now I'm anoyed by a clicky-clicky unstability on the back - along the right side just above where it says "HTC innovation". It seems there too much room (or something) just under that spot.
Anyone else experiencing this?
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Yes on two different Diamonds, poor design, or design flaw.
Clicky-clicky has gone bye-bye!
I found another solution:
Cut a business card (not too thick) in half and place it over the battery on the inside of the back cover. Slide the back cover back on. No more clicky-clicky!
Today i spent what seemed like an hour attempting to remove the battery cover on my touch pro and FINALLY did it! I wonder why HTC made it so difficult. To fix the creaking problem, i just put some strips of tape on my battery cover and that stopped the problem
Just recently I started hearing the back cover around where the sim card is begin to rattle when the phone vibrates. Its extremely loud
Has anyone else had this problem? Suggestions on how to fix it?
Cheers
I put a folded up paper towel under the back cover haha it works
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Yeah I'm not sure what I'm going to do... I really is pissing me off to be honest!
Any other thoughts?!
I have yet to find where the rattle is coming from...
If hold the case tight around the top part of the screen, it wont make the rattle either. I'm thinking about taking the phone in and RMA'ing it.
I've tried to put a paper towel behind the battery cover as well as a business card lol
Anyone else have any suggestions?
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Anyone else have any suggestions?
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maybe get a tiny precision screwdriver and tighten all the little screws on the phone. I think there are some under the battery cover. here's the threa that will show where they are -
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=740022
Check the little door that covers the usb port. Check it in the open and closed position.
I dig up an old post about the rattle and another user suggested that I try and remove the SD card and at the time when I tried it, it worked which I thought was odd because I had already checked that once before.
Regardless, the noise came back and AT&T said they will replace the phone but I'm too lazy to drive to the store so I think I'm going to try and tighten everything first... hopefully if all fails it wont void the warranty
I noticed that when I pressed on it slighty there was a slight squeak noise that came from the casing. I had recently bought a replacement cover and it was fine and than it did the same thing. What is this? Is it normal for most incredible s devices because I have heard other ppl had the same problem. I dont care as much because I have a case for mine but what about you guys??? Any squeaking issues??? LOL
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I noticed that when I pressed on it slighty there was a slight squeak noise that came from the casing. I had recently bought a replacement cover and it was fine and than it did the same thing. What is this? Is it normal for most incredible s devices because I have heard other ppl had the same problem. I dont care as much because I have a case for mine but what about you guys??? Any squeaking issues??? LOL
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Yes, same here, mines pretty bad actually!
I've got a case on top and its a tight fit, so it doesn't squeak.
Bad design flaw IMO.
neo-X said:
Yes, same here, mines pretty bad actually!
I've got a case on top and its a tight fit, so it doesn't squeak.
Bad design flaw IMO.
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Arrgh, it brings out the OCD in me LOL. But I have a case so it isnt bad, and its only in one little corner and I have to press on it so I geuss its not that bad. Its really a shame because I love this phone and thats its only flaw.
The same case here too.
For me its at the corner. I guess its due to the pressure while we want to unlock the phone, we tend to press the back cover first before hittin the power button.
Ive got a red IS, dunno if i can get another replacable one or not...
P.S I aint using any case or anything, its as fresh as outta the box XD
I believe the squeak is caused by some empty space existing between the phone and the back cover. Stick a strip of duct tape on the inside part of the back cover where it squeaks. It should solve the squeaking problem.
Mine squeaks really badly around the volume buttons. putting a case on fixes it though.
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Yep mine squeaks too, the corner near the camera.
Squeaky
No, mine has not had any squeaks. The USB port does rattle a bit. But not enough to get up in arms about. I find the fit and finish surprisingly good considering the chassis seems to be all plastic.
CoolinHL said:
I believe the squeak is caused by some empty space existing between the phone and the back cover. Stick a strip of duct tape on the inside part of the back cover where it squeaks. It should solve the squeaking problem.
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Isnt that not going to be good for the battery? Overheating it or something? I am kind of weary about putting things inside the phone
yeah it has been discussed tht the cover does squeek, either you have a case that is able to press on the phone good enough to prevent it from squeeking or you put fillers inside the phone to stop the squeeking
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Isnt that not going to be good for the battery? Overheating it or something? I am kind of weary about putting things inside the phone
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How do you think that would overheat the phone, exactly? It's not like phones have vents or fans that could be blocked by the tape.
Lol I don't know I'm just weary about stuff when it comesbto my phone maybe ill try that
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Ok did it and it works
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Of the ones that squeak (including mine), how many people have removed the back cover? Mine didn't start to squeak until the third time in pulled the battery cover off. I have noticed that on one side there is a small gap along one side more so than the other.
Mine definitely squeaked as if the cover was loose. It's not much of an issue with a case though.
Yep. Mine squeaks.
Top right (Near the camera & power button) and bottom left (near the home button). Intrigues me that it's like a diagonal thing. oh well.
I lold.
Don't really care though. xD
Just send them an email with some proof, some pictures and maybe a short video which you can clearly hear the sqeezing.
I did that and they send me a new cover
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I was able to fix this once by somehow properly placing the back cover back on but when the next time I removed it and placed it back, I again started to have the squeak so I used some plastic tape, placed it on the side of the back as well as the top, placed the back cover back and no more squeaking
I had squeaking on the right top and side.
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Of the ones that squeak (including mine), how many people have removed the back cover? Mine didn't start to squeak until the third time in pulled the battery cover off. I have noticed that on one side there is a small gap along one side more so than the other.
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Same here. Mine started squeaking after I removed the back cover for the third time as well. For me it's on the right side, smack in the middle of the device (where my middle finger rests when I hold it in my left hand )
System92 said:
Same here. Mine started squeaking after I removed the back cover for the third time as well. For me it's on the right side, smack in the middle of the device (where my middle finger rests when I hold it in my left hand )
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I wish this was the only problem that I discovered with the phone. I love the phone but look at what I discovered.
http://oi56.tinypic.com/9u8d9y.jpg
YES! That is a pixel..dead or stuck? I have no idea..Im thinkin its DEAD!!!
FML!!!!! Arrgh now I have to buy a display replacement and open up my phone to replace it...because it bugs me. I dont want to go through warranty, I will have to unroot my phone and S-on. Arrgh
Anyone else with this?
Does anyone else seem to be having this issue? Mine will never close completely and does not stay flush agains the phone like the sim card cover does... I can't seem to get it to stay completely closed no matter what I do. Is it supposed to be completely flush agains the side of the phone?
overlord727 said:
Does anyone else seem to be having this issue? Mine will never close completely and does not stay flush agains the phone like the sim card cover does... I can't seem to get it to stay completely closed no matter what I do. Is it supposed to be completely flush agains the side of the phone?
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It is definitely supposed to be flush against the phone.
I'll see if I can get it to shut, otherwise I'll have to see about a replacement door. Thanks!
I received my phone today and unboxed it.
I immediatley noticed a slightly opened nano SIM slot cover. I tried to push it in but the cover always popps out after a while.
I cleaned it with alcohol to get more friction between the o-ring and the mating surface of the cell phone but it continued to popp out.
Looks like they have some issues with the covers and the shape of the o-ring/ packing.
Its definitely not water proof like that so I am sending it back to get a replacement phone.
However, the micro SD slot cover on my phone was flush and tight.
Hi, I have same problem. Cover is popping out slightly immediately after closing and after some time in pocket its usualy almost or completly opened.
same problem here, sim card flap keeps popping open, only arrived today from o2, i take it the only solution is to return?
mozzer2k4 said:
same problem here, sim card flap keeps popping open, only arrived today from o2, i take it the only solution is to return?
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yep, this might seriously endanger the water/dustproof thingy.
**UPDATE**
I exchanged it and the replacement phone doesnt has the problems.
So if you get your phone, check it first for this failure.
Some have it, some dont.
Ughhh this is kind of crap, I took a risk and bought this phone from a seller outside my country :crying: and Sony Canada won't recognize their warranty. Other than this flap issue I really love it..
deutscher.bund said:
Ughhh this is kind of crap, I took a risk and bought this phone from a seller outside my country :crying: and Sony Canada won't recognize their warranty. Other than this flap issue I really love it..
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Just return it for a refund or exchange, I assume you got it from Clove or Handtec. Sony Canada probably won't start fixing these devices until it is actually released in Canada.
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Just return it for a refund or exchange, I assume you got it from Clove or Handtec. Sony Canada probably won't start fixing these devices until it is actually released in Canada.
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I got it from Never-MSRP (an eBay store). Yeah I just contacted them now, really hope I can settle this without getting hit on any fee.
deutscher.bund said:
I got it from Never-MSRP (an eBay store). Yeah I just contacted them now, really hope I can settle this without getting hit on any fee.
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They're a reliable seller, they'll swap your phone for sure.
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Bialynia said:
They're a reliable seller, they'll swap your phone for sure.
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Yes I'm working it out with them now seems to be very reasonable. Hope my next unit is good.
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yep, this might seriously endanger the water/dustproof thingy.
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o2 have now replaced my phone, seal is flush against the body :good:
overlord727 said:
Does anyone else seem to be having this issue? Mine will never close completely and does not stay flush agains the phone like the sim card cover does... I can't seem to get it to stay completely closed no matter what I do. Is it supposed to be completely flush agains the side of the phone?
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Same problem here exactly!
Returned mine back to the store today, took some time to convince them that there was a problem as the flap takes about 3-4 minutes to pop up out of it's hole and only comes out about 0.5-0.8mm (hardly a lot), but enough to make me concerned about it not being fully waterproof. Apparently it was the first Sony Z3 compact that has this problem, but I'm glad I saw this thread before going back to the shop
Eventually the guy said they'll take it and get it repaired and will take 2 weeks to get it back, hopefully all it needs is a new flap.
Glad I took it back though, and hopefully when it returns the flap will stay down, as otherwise it is the best phone I've ever had!
I had this problem with USB flap, O2 replaced the phone straight away..
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I had exactly this problem. In my pocket the cover would work its way loose after a few minutes.
I noticed that the stem of the cover was not perpendicular to the short edges of the cover itself, so when closed (with the stem presumably parallel to the screen), one of the long edges would be pushed outwards. I hope that's clear ish. Anyway, bending the stem to be perpendicular to the cover seems to have fixed my problem. I've been using my phone all day, and the cover hasn't come loose once.
I'll keep you all posted as to whether this "fix" keeps working.
The fix works
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I had exactly this problem. In my pocket the cover would work its way loose after a few minutes.
I noticed that the stem of the cover was not perpendicular to the short edges of the cover itself, so when closed (with the stem presumably parallel to the screen), one of the long edges would be pushed outwards. I hope that's clear ish. Anyway, bending the stem to be perpendicular to the cover seems to have fixed my problem. I've been using my phone all day, and the cover hasn't come loose once.
I'll keep you all posted as to whether this "fix" keeps working.
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I tried your fix and it works. Thanks.
****, i made a new topic a couple of min ago about the same issue with the sim trapdoor. doesn't stay clipped in properly.
getting it replaced.
check the screen for light bleeds with a screen test app black screen at max brightness, and white balance for pink issues...
freaking pain...
overlord727 said:
Does anyone else seem to be having this issue? Mine will never close completely and does not stay flush agains the phone like the sim card cover does... I can't seem to get it to stay completely closed no matter what I do. Is it supposed to be completely flush agains the side of the phone?
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I've had the same issue as you, but after i bent a bit the flap cover's stem(tiny plastic stem that holds the flap cover between the port's hole and the flap cover), the flap cover was fixed.. you need to check if the stem aren't straight, make it straight, it worked for me.
Since my frame is bent and my back glass is broken I really have to replace them as the dust got between back glass and the camera rendering camera with flash useless.
I'm thinking about replacing it myself, but I'm worried if it's still going to be waterproof after I replace it.
Have any of you guys replaced the back glass by yourself? How's the waterproofness after you did that?
Water resistence will be gone for sure and back glass wont stick for long.time to time you have to push it back.
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I'm talking about replacing it. Both bent frame and back glass. Have you done this?
No, they will keep the water-proof capablility of the phone. First they will replace the back, remove all the old glue and rubber gasket then replace all with new glue, etc...then use high compression machine press the back cover tight to the glue. Atleast that is the process of replace back cover in my local Sony center, not sure it's applied to all....And after repair they will allow you to put the phone into water to test...
FFS
My adhesive on the back just completely stopped holding the back glass. I can take it out by shaking the device a bit or even by picking it up. I'll be sending it for the repairs...
No more Z1 development, really.
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FFS
My adhesive on the back just completely stopped holding the back glass. I can take it out by shaking the device a bit or even by picking it up. I'll be sending it for the repairs...
No more Z1 development, really.
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That suck! Hope you got the phone without any problems later on...
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That suck! Hope you got the phone without any problems later on...
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Yeah. The worst thing is that I have to ship the phone on my own. I mean wrapping, talking with DHL and stuff like that to get it to authorised sony service ... -_-
Good thing is that although I'll pay a lot for the replacement of the frame and the back it will be waterproof again.
I'll send it in this weekend or at the begging of the next week.
If anyone would be interested in the state of my Z1 then here's what's wrong with it:
USB flap fell off again.
Back glass is broken
Main frame is bent
Middle frame is cracked
To fix it I'd have to buy:
Glue for middle frame, main frame
Back glass
USB flap
Middle frame
I'll propably fix it myself becaus the cost of doing this in the service would be propably as high as a new Z1. Too bad I'm not rich so I can't buy those parts yet.
If anyone is interested then I finally made pictures of my phone. At least the screen and the electronic hardware is allright.
http://imgur.com/a/MRcra?#0
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If anyone is interested then I finally made pictures of my phone. At least the screen and the electronic hardware is allright.
http://imgur.com/a/MRcra?#0
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hope you can get it fixed soon miss your dev work
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hope you can get it fixed soon miss your dev work
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Hopefully I will, but I'll have to wait untill all of the parts that I need get available on witrigs.com so I could order OEM parts for my device.
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Hopefully I will, but I'll have to wait untill all of the parts that I need get available on witrigs.com so I could order OEM parts for my device.
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Ah, okay. I've been following you since the Xperia S xD
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Ah, okay. I've been following you since the Xperia S xD
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I only had Xperia Play apart from Z1, flashed xperia S just few days ago, lol ^^
I didn't test it myself, but if you buy a genuine back glass assembly (that includes glue, you can buy this from, for example www.witrigs.com) and replace it properly, wait a week or so for the glue to align and stick properly it should still be waterproof. I did replace almost every part of my Z1, that is camera, back microphone, back glass - 2 times, minijack with proximity sensor, battery, main frame with all the buttons and flaps, speaker mesh and propably something else I don't really remember anymore. It doesn't matter anyway, what matters here is that if you replace middle frame - take close attention to the speaker mesh hole - the one from a phone has some sort of a gasket there, whereas the replacement one - doesn't and you can't really buy it separately. I bought the middle frame assembly from witrigs and it was also missing that gasket. Also, speaker mesh from witrigs is different from the one that was in the phone. These parts render my phone not waterproof anymore and I don't think you can buy replacements for it that would still make the phone waterproof, even if replaced with surgically perfect precision.
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Back glass assembly (complete genuine replacement part with glue, nfc, camera etc. already on it) replacement, if done properly, may not cause your phone to lose it's waterproofness. At least from my experience.
Replacing main frame and speaker mesh, even new genuine will void it. Not because there were some mistakes in replacing them, they simply don't have all of the elements that the parts originally shipped with a new phone have. Replacing them will definitely remove its waterproofness. (with all parts from witrigs.com, that is very trusted to ship genuine, new replacement parts.
Just posting this so people googling around could find the answer.
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Ah, okay. I've been following you since the Xperia S xD
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Try out my new kernel if you want Make sure to read entire first post before flashing if you are still using XZDR recovery though. http://forum.xda-developers.com/xperia-z1/development/stockbased-ok-kernel-v4-rock-solid-30-t3281806
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I only had Xperia Play apart from Z1, flashed xperia S just few days ago, lol ^^
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I swear I saw you on the XS Carbon Rom forums or something xD I'll give the kernel a shot! Was planning on flashing RR today after a long time on stock, but I guess that can wait