Database Develop

Moto users hangout/chitchat/off - topic thread.

Hey guys this thread is for moto users. Moto is a franchise of Motorola phones. So let's talk here about our moto(s).
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
[size]Moto X specifications[/size]
Model Number(s):
T-Mobile (Developer Edition GSM)- XT1053
AT&T, Rogers, Vivo & Claro (Puerto Rico), Movistar & Claro (Chile) - XT1058
Verizon - XT1060
Sprint - XT1056
US Cellular - XT1055
Frequencies / Bands:
AT&T and T-Mobile - UMTS 850, 900, 1700/2100, 1900, 2100 MHz; GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHz
Verizon - CDMA:800, 1900 MHz
Sprint - CDMA:800, 1900 MHz
Display Resolution:
720 x 1280 pixels AMOLED
Screen Size:
4.7" 16M Color
Bluetooth Enabled:
Yes
Wi-Fi Enabled:
Yes
Internal Memory:
16 GB (Actual Space for user data 12 GB)
32GB (Actual Space for user data ~28 GB)
External Memory:
None
Size/Dimensions:
5.09 x 2.57 x 0.41 inches (129.3 x 65.3 x 10.4 mm)
Weight:
4.59 oz (130 g)
Battery Life:
2200 mAh (Not User Replaceable)
Camera:
10 MP
Camcorder:
1920x1080 (1080p HD) (60 fps)
Front-facing camera:
2 megapixels
Operating System:
Android 4.4, 4.3, 4.2.2
Keyboard:
Touch Screen
GPS:
Yes
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Moto G specifications
Model Number(s) -
XT1032:This Model Number is shared by International GSM Version and the Google Play Edition 8 GB/16 GB (Single SIM) EU & International GSM - 8GB/16GB. (Does not Support 1700 MHz AWS)
XT1033 : Brazil - 8GB & 16GB(Colors Edition) (Both are Dual Sim) and also for Moto G (Music edition) (Dual Sim) (16GB Only)
XT1034: AT&T and T-Mobile - 8GB/16GB.
Frequencies / Bands:
AT&T and T-Mobile - HSDPA 850, 900, 1900, 2100 MHz; GSM 850, 900, 1800, 1900 MHzVerizon and Sprint - CDMA:800, 1900 MHz, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO
Display Resolution:
720 x 1280 pixels Corning Gorilla Glass 3 (IPS LCD capacitive)
Screen Size:
4.5" 16 M Colors (329 PPi)
Bluetooth Enabled:
Yes
Wi-Fi Enabled:
Yes
Internal Memory:
8 GB (Actual Space for user data ~6 GB) 16 GB (Actual Space for user data ~12 GB)
External Memory:
None
Size / Dimensions:
5.11 x 2.59 x 0.46 inches (129.9 x 65.9 x 11.6 mm)
Weight:
5.04 oz (143 g)
Battery Capacity: 2070 mAh (Not User Replaceable)
Camera:
5 MP (2592х1944 pixels)
Camcorder:
720p (30fps), stereo sound rec., HDR
Front-facing camera:
1.3 megapixels
Operating System:
Android 4.4, 4.3
Keyboard:
Touch Screen
GPS:
Yes
Click to expand...
Click to collapse

My question, how does a muffin use a phone?
Sent from my GT-I9505G using Tapatalk

LoopDoGG79 said:
My question, how does a muffin use a phone?
Sent from my GT-I9505G using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Wtf? ! Muffin is food
Its going to be LEGEND--wait for it--DARY!-Barney Stinson(How I Met Your Mother)

batman38102 said:
Wtf? ! Muffin is food
Its going to be LEGEND--wait for it--DARY!-Barney Stinson(How I Met Your Mother)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Look at OP avatar.......
Sent from my GT-I9505G using Tapatalk

Hey @LoopDoGG79 you know about that so please leave me.
Hey wait wait. wait.. wait... wait....
Brought to you by my own mmmmuuuuffffffffiiiinnnn

Guys moto g launched in India
https://plus.google.com/113884566566424587799/posts/QNe6Zv4fcyz
13999 INR FOR 16 GB.
12499 INR FOR 8 GB.
Hey wait wait. wait.. wait... wait....
Brought to you by my own mmmmuuuuffffffffiiiinnnn

LoopDoGG79 said:
My question, how does a muffin use a phone?
Sent from my GT-I9505G using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Smh
Sent from my sushi grade tuna

Tezlastorme said:
Smh
Sent from my sushi grade tuna
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Keep shaking
Hey wait wait. wait.. wait... wait....
Brought to you by my own mmmmuuuuffffffffiiiinnnn

Bump
Hey wait wait. wait.. wait... wait....
Brought to you by my own mmmmuuuuffffffffiiiinnnn

[SPECS] Xiaomi Redmi Note Specifications - Members Thoughts

Hey all
Xiaomi's Phablet device has been on the streets for a while now. Coming in 2 variants, a 1GB RAM model with 8GB of memory and a 2GB version with 16GB of memory, both can be upgraded by way of a SD card. It sports a 5.5" IPS display and a 1.4Ghz/1.7GHz Octa-core processor. Feel free to comment on the overall specifications and design of the Xiaomi Redmi Note:good:
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Specifications:
Display - IPS LCD, 720 x 1280 pixels, 5.5 inches (~267 ppi pixel density)
Chipset - Mediatek MT6592
CPU - Octa-core 1.4/1.7 GHz Cortex-A7
GPU - Mali-450MP4
RAM - 1-2 GB RAM depending on model
Memory - 8-16GB
Camera - 13 MP, 4128 x 3096 pixels, autofocus, LED flash
Secondary Camera - 5MP
Sensors - Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass
Connectivity - Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g/n, Wi-Fi Direct, Wi-Fi hotspot, Bluetooth v4.0
Battery - 3200 mAh
Dimensions - 154 x 78.7 x 9.5 mm
Weight - 199g
Source: gsmarena

Nice phone for the money.
Be better if kernel source were released so the xda wizards could
do some development.

Already own this. Enhanced version.

do we know if this device gets official MIUI V6 or KitKat in general ?????

MIUI 6 for sure.

This is indeed a nice device.
One question does this device has screen protection such as Gorilla Glass or Dragontrail Glass like Redmi/Hongmi 1s?

windbayou said:
This is indeed a nice device.
One question does this device has screen protection such as Gorilla Glass or Dragontrail Glass like Redmi/Hongmi 1s?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Doesn't list it in the specs. Just says it is an IPS-LCD Screen.
IPS stands for in-plane switching. An IPS-LCD is a type of thin display that offers better viewing angles than TFT-LCDs. IPS-LCDs feature two transistors for each pixel, where TFT-LCDs use just one. This requires a more powerful backlight, which delivers more accurate colors, and allows the screen to be viewed from a wider angle. The downside is that an IPS-LCD may consume more power than a TFT-LCD.
IPS-LCDs typically are found on high-end cell phones and portable devices. Apple's iPhone and iPad both feature IPS-LCDs, as does the Motorola Droid.

where can you buy the 16gb version?
i found the 2gb ram version here but it says it only has 8gb
with regard to the 2g/3g it says it supports:
2G: GSM 900/1800/1900MHz
3G: WCDMA 900/2100MHz
does this mean i would get full HSDPA speeds on the Three network in the UK like i do currently with my Galaxy Note 1 (N7000)

No
vassilis1 said:
do we know if this device gets official MIUI V6 or KitKat in general ?????
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
May not get. It won't take time to do so for them. When indian companies like xolo did for many 1 year old phones immediately after release, why can't Xiaomi?

http://en.miui.com/thread-67454-1-1.html
All Redmi phones will get MIUI 6 developer version and stable version; We will try our best to release some beta versions by the end of Dec. 2014

I think the device is pretty great for the price tag.
Got some really nice specs of you ask me.
Works great in general use, web surfing with chrome is butter smooth and sweet gaming performance as well.
My only hardware issue is with the camera, despite being a 13 MP camera, it's pretty lame, but still you can get "okay" photos out of it.
And yea Btw, blame Mediatek for the source code. [emoji16]
Sent from my A18+ with Tapatalk ^-^

Performance round-up 2017 edition [Benchmarks]

I decided to test how my old Droid 4 will perform in benchmarks in 2017. Here are the first benchmarks. If you want to see more benchmarks, please recommend some of them. You can also post your scores .
Device: Motorola Droid 4
ROM: CyanogenMod 13 (latest Nightly)
Launcher: Nova Prime
Geekbench 4
Stock CM kernel 1.2Ghz: 374/624
OC kernel 1.3Ghz (FullScale Lite): 398/656
My unit will not run at 1.4Ghz stable so I only tested at 1.3Ghz. Benchmark score increased about 6%. I believe that at 1.4Ghz single core score would be over 400.
Comparison:
Galaxy S7 (Exynos 8890, 2.3GHz): 1784/5201 (2016)
Galaxy S7 (Snapdragon 820, 2.15Ghz): 1560/3791 (2016)
LG X Power (MT6735M, 1.3Ghz): 558/1509 (2016)
Moto G (2014) (Snapdragon 400, 1.2Ghz): 427/1060 (2014)
Moto E3 (MT6735P, 1.0Ghz): 425/1122 (2016)
Galaxy S II (Exynos 4210, 1.2Ghz): 424/777 (2011)
Galaxy Nexus (OMAP 4460, 1.2Ghz): 409/651 (2011)
Droid 4 (OMAP 4430, 1.3Ghz): 398/656 (2012)
Galaxy S5 Mini (Exynos 3470, 1.4Ghz): 392/1061 (2014)
RAZR XT910 (OMAP 4430, 1.2Ghz): 369/587 (2011)
Discomark
I ran the tests with OC kernel at 1.3Ghz
Animations were turned off during tests from developer settings and Nova settings
I ran Hot test 3 times (the result is average) and Cold test only once
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Hot test results are pretty good but Cold test results quite poor. As long as the app is loaded from the memory (RAM) there shouldn't be any major lag.
Comparison:
AnTuTu
I ran the tests with OC kernel at 1.3Ghz
Total Score: 20503
3D: 139
Marooned: Unsupported
Garden: 139
UX: 9475
UX Data Secure: 3013
UX Data process: 1831
UX Strategy games: 2432
UX Image process: 1564
UX I/O performance: 633
CPU: 9081
CPU Mathematics: 2079
CPU Common Use: 3569
CPU Multi-Core: 3433
RAM: 1808
Comparison:
Galaxy S7 (Exynos 8890): 130909
LG X Power: 31966
Moto G (2014): 22345
Moto E3: 19000
3DMark - Ice Storm:
Ice Storm: 2003
Graphics score: 1765
Physics score: 3788
Graphics test 1: 8.4 FPS
Graphics test 2: 7.1 FPS
Physics test: 12 FPS
Comparison:
Galaxy S7 (SD820)
Forced vertical sync on Android devices limits apps to displaying a maximum of 60 frames per second. Your score will be shown as "Maxed out" if your device hits the vertical sync limit during a test.
Average score: Maxed out!
Physics score: Maxed out!
Graphics score: Maxed out!
Graphics test 1: 60 FPS
Graphics test 2: 59 FPS
Physics test: 54 FPS
LG X power
Average score: 4851
Physics score: 9149
Graphics score: 4285
Graphics test 1: 19 FPS
Graphics test 2: 18 FPS
Physics test: 29 FPS
Moto G (2014)
Average score: 4651
Physics score: 7781
Graphics score: 4176
Graphics test 1: 24 FPS
Graphics test 2: 15 FPS
Physics test: 25 FPS
Moto E3
Average score: 3471
Physics score: 5934
Graphics score: 3106
Graphics test 1: 14 FPS
Graphics test 2: 13 FPS
Physics test: 19 FPS

Flash-A-Holic said:
I decided to test how my old Droid 4 will perform in benchmarks in 2017. Here are the first benchmarks. If you want to see more benchmarks, please recommend some of them. You can also post your scores .
Device: Motorola Droid 4
ROM: CyanogenMod 13 (latest Nightly)
Geekbench 4
Stock CM kernel 1.2Ghz: 374/624
OC kernel 1.3Ghz (FullScale Lite): 398/656
My unit will not run at 1.4Ghz stable so I only tested at 1.3Ghz. Benchmark score increased about 6%. I believe that at 1.4Ghz score would be over 400.
Comparison:
Galaxy S7 (Exynos 8890, 2.3GHz): 1784/5201 (2016)
Galaxy S7 (Snapdragon 820, 2.15Ghz): 1560/3791 (2016)
LG X Power (MT6735M, 1.3Ghz): 558/1509 (2016)
Moto G (2014) (Snapdragon 400, 1.2Ghz): 427/1060 (2014)
Moto E3 (MT6735P, 1.0Ghz): 425/1122 (2016)
Galaxy S II (Exynos 4210, 1.2Ghz): 424/777 (2011)
Galaxy Nexus (OMAP 4460, 1.2Ghz): 409/651 (2011)
Droid 4 (OMAP 4430, 1.3Ghz): 398/656 (2012)
Galaxy S5 Mini (Exynos 3470, 1.4Ghz): 392/1061 (2014)
RAZR XT910 (OMAP 4430, 1.2Ghz): 369/587 (2011)
Discomark
I ran the tests with OC kernel at 1.3Ghz
I ran Hot test 3 times (the result is average) and Cold test only once
Hot test results are pretty good but Cold test results quite poor. As long as the app is loaded in the memory there shouldn't be any major lag.
Comparison:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thanks for the tests. At leat it was higher than the S5 mini. Droid 4 is still ticking.

AnTuTu and 3DMark - Ice Storm added
OGdroidster said:
Thanks for the tests. At leat it was higher than the S5 mini. Droid 4 is still ticking.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yeah, I think that too :highfive:. I decided to run GPU benchmark also. First I tried to run GFXBench T-Rex (ES 2.0) but it failed (out of memory error). So I added 3DMark Ice Storm results instead. It seems that GPU performance and memory are the weak points for Droid 4. Otherwise everything else seems to be okay.
EDIT: AnTuTu also added.
Ps. Could you edit quote a bit smaller?

Flash-A-Holic said:
Yeah, I think that too :highfive:. I decided to run GPU benchmark also. First I tried to run GFXBench T-Rex (ES 2.0) but it failed (out of memory error). So I added 3DMark Ice Storm results instead. It seems that GPU performance and memory are the weak points for Droid 4. Otherwise everything else seems to be okay.
Ps. Could you edit quote a bit smaller?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is true. I tinker with memory to get it to run properly as I run alot of extensive audio stuff software wise. once i got it perfect it was good to go, memory wise. But GPU can't do much there without the device acting buggy. Just happy this device is ticking :good: oh changed the font to size 1. Its at the top of editing. I never paid attention to it before.

[CLOSED] Xiaomi Mi 10T with Snapdragon 865 beats ROG phone 5 with GPU Overclock

Hi
I have Xiaomi Mi 10T with Snapdragon 865 with Adreno 650 GPU and 8 GB LPDDR5 RAM and I used Konabess app to Overclock GPU to beat ROG Phone 5 in Vulkan performance.
You can use them to undervolt SD870 and OC to 683 MHz that the limit but early SD870 can be overclock to 900Mhz.
I used This two tables to overclock to 905-940Mhz.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Adreno 660 is just overclock on Adreno 650 from Snapdragon 865.
If you want more performance look for CAF ROMs like I did.
I'm using Xdroid ROM with is CAF ROM.( CAF stands for the CodeAurora Forum. It is like the name says, an online forum (just like XDA, except, the forum is more for OS developers than flashmaniacs) where Qualcomm releases source codes and patches for their CPUs. Code Aurora is a kind of an initiative in which brands can release the open-source codes for SoCs(CPUs) for future software development. )
First few technical staff.
1000 Gigaflops = 1 Teraflops/TFLOPS
Adreno 650 on 587 MHz has 1202 Gigaflops
Poco F3 Adreno 650 on 670 MHz has 1372 Gigaflops
Snapdragon 888 - Adreno 660 on 840 MHz has 1702 Gigaflops
Adreno 650 on 905 MHz has 1853 Gigaflops
Adreno 650 on 940 MHz has 1925 Gigaflops
You can calculate this very easily
Shading units 512 * freq 0.905 * 4 = 1853 Gigaflops = 1.8 TFLOPS
Compere to home consoles last gen
PS4 has 1.84 TFLOPS
Xbox One S 1.4 TFLOPS
Nintendo switch 1TFLOPS docked and undock around 500 Teraflops.
I overclock my Adreno 650 to 940Mhz giving me performance of SD888 with new drivers OpenGL 604 ( In two versions in attachment below if you want try on 865/870 new drivers)
Performance is incredible just from driver it self. Stock freq 587 MHz gives 4230-4150 score in Wild life just like SD870.
I used 940MHz and 905MHz on TURBO_L0 Voltage.
You can click on any images to get closer view.
Here is AnTuTu before overclock on stock freq 587MHz and 3Dmark Wild life
Now here we go to 940Mhz overclock with GPU.
AnTuTu Score beats Mi 11 and few SD 888 smartphones.
Here is Wild life and Wild life stress test.
Here are bonus 3DMark Sling **** Extreme Unlimited and Geekbench 5 Vulkan Compute test
And here are temp of Red Magic 6 series phones.
And here is temperature of all big SD888 phones to compere.
Here is test which show how many Watts GPU uses.
Overclock to 905-940Mhz with new drivers v604 use 7W on of power without idle screen 0.8W compere to SD888 which is much higher around 1.5W
SD888 GfxBench Manhattan 3.1 off screen 117 fps with 8W-8.5W of power.
Gfx Benchmark Manhattan 3.1 off screen 112-115fps with 7W
Running Genshin Impact on 60fps highest gets 7.2W of power with 58fps almost lock and SD888 uses 8.5-11W to run this game.

Duplicate thread closed
Kindly continue discussions in the existing thread
Xiaomi Mi 10T with Snapdragon 865 beats ROG phone 5 with GPU Overclock
Hi I have Xiaomi Mi 10T with Snapdragon 865 with Adreno 650 GPU and 8 GB LPDDR5 RAM and I used Konabess app to Overclock GPU to beat ROG Phone 5 in Vulkan performance. If you need anything help here is my new group on Telegram for support in...
forum.xda-developers.com
Thanks

Question Upgrading Mi 11 Ultra --> Xiaomi 13 Pro

Is anyone thinking about upgrading Mi 11 Ultra to Xiaomi 13 Pro ?
I've skipped 12S Ultra as there were not many new things, and not much difference in camera quality.
Today I find out there is Xiaomi 13 Pro released globally, there are already some reviews and battery tests
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
Cant complain on my Mi 11 Ultra overall, the only complaint I have is about customs ROM, not much of them, but for globally released phone I think there is more chance to get more customs ROM for it ? I'm right on this ?
NetworkTechnologyGSM / CDMA / HSPA / CDMA2000 / LTE / 5GBodyDimensions162.9 x 74.6 x 8.4 mm or 8.7 mmWeight210 g or 229 g (7.41 oz)BuildGlass front (Gorilla Glass Victus), ceramic back or silicone polymer back, aluminum frameSIMDual SIM (Nano-SIM, dual stand-by)IP68 dust/water resistant (up to 1.5m for 30 min)DisplayTypeLTPO AMOLED, 1B colors, 120Hz, Dolby Vision, HDR10+, 1200 nits (HBM), 1900 nits (peak)Size6.73 inches, 108.9 cm2 (~89.6% screen-to-body ratio)Resolution1440 x 3200 pixels, 20:9 ratio (~522 ppi density)ProtectionCorning Gorilla Glass VictusPlatformOSAndroid 13, MIUI 14ChipsetQualcomm SM8550-AB Snapdragon 8 Gen 2 (4 nm)CPUOcta-core (1x3.2 GHz Cortex-X3 & 2x2.8 GHz Cortex-A715 & 2x2.8 GHz Cortex-A710 & 3x2.0 GHz Cortex-A510)GPUAdreno 740MemoryCard slotNoInternal128GB 8GB RAM, 256GB 8GB RAM, 256GB 12GB RAM, 512GB 12GB RAMUFS 3.1 - 128GBUFS 4.0 - 256/512GBMain CameraTriple50.3 MP, f/1.9, 23mm (wide), 1.0"-type, 1.6µm, Dual Pixel PDAF, Laser AF, OIS50 MP, f/2.0, 75mm (telephoto), PDAF (10cm - ∞), 3.2x optical zoom50 MP, f/2.2, 14mm, 115˚ (ultrawide), AFFeaturesLeica lens, Dual-LED dual-tone flash, HDR, panoramaVideo[email protected] (HDR), [email protected]/30/60fps (HDR10+, 10-bit Dolby Vision HDR, 10-bit LOG), [email protected]/120/240/960fps, [email protected], gyro-EISSelfie cameraSingle32 MP, (wide)FeaturesHDR, panoramaVideo[email protected]SoundLoudspeakerYes, with stereo speakers3.5mm jackNo24-bit/192kHz audioCommsWLANWi-Fi 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac/6e, dual-band, Wi-Fi DirectBluetooth5.3, A2DP, LEPositioningGPS (L1+L5), GLONASS (G1), BDS (B1I+B1c+B2a), GALILEO (E1+E5a), QZSS (L1+L5), NavIC (L5)NFCYesInfrared portYesRadioNoUSBUSB Type-C 2.0, OTGFeaturesSensorsFingerprint (under display, optical), accelerometer, proximity, gyro, compass, barometer, color spectrumBatteryTypeLi-Po 4820 mAh, non-removableCharging120W wired, PD3.0, QC4, 100% in 19 min (advertised)50W wireless, 100% in 36 min (advertised)10W reverse wirelessMiscColorsCeramic White, Ceramic Black, Ceramic Flora Green, Mountain BluePrice€ 1,299.90TestsPerformanceAnTuTu: 1281666 (v9)GeekBench: 5087 (v5.1), 5323 (v6)GFXBench: 64fps (ES 3.1 onscreen)DisplayContrast ratio: Infinite (nominal)CameraPhoto / VideoLoudspeaker-25.6 LUFS (Very good)Battery lifeEndurance rating 115h

"Cant complain on my Mi 11 Ultra overall, the only complaint I have is about customs ROM, not much of them, but for globally released phone I think there is more chance to get more customs ROM for it ? I'm right on this ?"
The source code for the Xiaomi 13 pro is not yet available unlike the Xiaomi 12 pro for example, which has been available since December 2021.
There is already not a single rom for the 12 pro 8 Gen1 while the kernel dates from December 2021.
In my opinion several obstacles, incomplete Kernel ***, the completely new fingerprint part ***, the soc, price.
(***confirmed by developers).
Maybe it's the soc, for devices over a year old brands like One Plus or Samsung no AOSP rom too.
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen1
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8 Gen2
Qualcomm Snapdragon 8+ Gen1

No OIS on tele lens , Mi 11 Pro/Ultra has tele 5X with OIS .

Bobfish said:
No OIS on tele lens , Mi 11 Pro/Ultra has tele 5X with OIS .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
it has
Spoiler: CAMERA

If you skipped 12s Ultra because not much difference in camera quality, then you'll definitely want to skip 13 Pro which is a downgrade. You're getting much worse ultrawide and telephoto sensors (they are much smaller and also 3.2x vs 5x), and though the main sensor is marginally better, you're losing the mod support. Mi 11 Ultra has a full resolution RAW unlocker which gives 50MP RAW photos from GCam. It's questionable if the 13 series will ever get it since the 12 series still don't. This is what still makes the 11 Ultra the best camera system.
If cameras are a secondary thought to you, then yeah it may be worth upgrading, since the new chipset is really good. Performance, battery life, no overheating, that's all great. Development is just unknown yet, but judging by the 12 series it may not be great.

Arcide said:
If you skipped 12s Ultra because not much difference in camera quality, then you'll definitely want to skip 13 Pro which is a downgrade. You're getting much worse ultrawide and telephoto sensors (they are much smaller and also 3.2x vs 5x), and though the main sensor is marginally better, you're losing the mod support. Mi 11 Ultra has a full resolution RAW unlocker which gives 50MP RAW photos from GCam. It's questionable if the 13 series will ever get it since the 12 series still don't. This is what still makes the 11 Ultra the best camera system.
If cameras are a secondary thought to you, then yeah it may be worth upgrading, since the new chipset is really good. Performance, battery life, no overheating, that's all great. Development is just unknown yet, but judging by the 12 series it may not be great.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Any working version of gcam with Mi 11 ultra to shoot in RAW?

sandeep1303 said:
Any working version of gcam with Mi 11 ultra to shoot in RAW?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes any gcam can do it, find the thread for gcam in this subforum for recommendations