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[Q] recovery for 4.4.3

Hi guys
i am on 4.4.3 in moto x and i received 4.4.4 for ota but i cant update because i unlocked bootloader and twrp in recovery,
how do i install 4.4.3,
i think install a recovery stock but i did not find recovery stock for 4.4.3 only for 4.4.2
or reinstall all stock for 4.4.2 make it downgrade.
what do you think?

You can likely find 4.4.3 firmware or even 4.4.4 and flash it manually from the links here,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2923347
If you downgrade you could brick. If you successfully downgrade and take an OTA, you will definitely brick.
So not a wise choice. ?
Also, questions go in the Q&A section. For future reference. I'll ask this be moved. ?
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This guide has sections for many tasks, including flashing firmware.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2603358
If you use the fastboot method, you could likely just flash your stock recovery once you get the proper firmware, and if you need to, mfastboot can flash the system image. Should be good for OTA then.
But again, if you find the 4.4.4 firmware for your model... Flashing it fresh manually is always my preference. ?

sorry i was think posted on Q&A,
so i install stock 4.4.3 and began wait for ota 4.4.4
or directly flash 4.4.4?
well, are not problem install directly 4.4.4 and blick mi phone?
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sorry i dont see the continuation answer
so, i try to find the 4.4.4 fw for mi motox and flashing via rsd??

htc-desire5 said:
sorry i was think posted on Q&A,
so i install stock 4.4.3 and began wait for ota 4.4.4
or directly flash 4.4.4?
well, are not problem install directly 4.4.4 and blick mi phone?
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sorry i dont see the continuation answer
so, i try to find the 4.4.4 fw for mi motox and flashing via rsd??
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If you find the proper 4.4.4 for your device, that's how I personally prefer to do it.
Be aware it'll wipe your device with RSD though. Apps, pics, music, whatever... Gone . So you can move anything you want to keep to your PC.
Using the fastboot /mfastboot method will not wipe your stuff. Pics, music and everything. As long as you don't erase or flash userdata. Apps still gone though.
Your choice. See the guide I linked for instructions.
Good luck!
And once on 4.4.4...you can not ever downgrade.

thanks, i didnt find 4.4.4 for mi device only 4.4.3 the same like i use today,
i can use rds for flash the 4.4.3 and wait for ota without any problems?

I'm pretty sure only the XT1053 aka TMobile/Developer Edition has a 4.4.3 firmware. Everyone else went from.4.4.2 straight to 4.4.4.
You can confirm by checking About and looking at firmware version it should end with Retail.en.US
If you just need the 4.4.3 recovery to flash and upgrade you can find it in the 4.4.4 OTA thread here under Reminders: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/general/xt1053-4-4-4-ota-update-zip-t2885484
If you want the 4.4.4 firmware you can find it in this discussion second post: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/help-xt1053-half-downgraded-t2934605

Yup ?
Same warning, RSD will erase everything on your phone. It will be as it was the day you bought it.

thanks
@dtg7 a screenshoot
mi device has Retail.en.US.
so if i understand, i can put directly 4.4.4 from this post??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/help-xt1053-half-downgraded-t2934605

If you are T-Mobile, yup.
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Not another carrier.

really not, im from mexico and use telmex but really i dont why t-mobile.

I would wait for your firmware, unless someone confirms T-Mobile will work for you. If your radio doesn't work, or anything else, you'll be stuck on T-Mobile 4.4.4 and won't be able to then flash your stock 4.4.3 anymore.
Patience. You aren't really missing out on anything. ?

@Darth thank really i want update because the ota update appear and that's annoying, but well i try with 4.4.3 flash rsd and wait for ota in stock
well if i became a 4.4.4 for root only need supersu??
i question that if its convenient upgrade o wait in 4.4.3

htc-desire5 said:
@Darth thank really i want update because the ota update appear and that's annoying, but well i try with 4.4.3 flash rsd and wait for ota in stock
well if i became a 4.4.4 for root only need supersu??
i question that if its convenient upgrade o wait in 4.4.3
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You're bootloader is definitely unlocked? Then yes, rooting is easy on 4.4.4.
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wonder, thanks for everything @Darth
a moderator close that thread, my question was solved.

System Files?

Greetings;
I just received my Moto X 1097 Canadian Variant and was
wondering if there are any files that I can get from a virgin
device before I attempt to root & etc.?
Or backup files that one day I might need to bring back my
device to life from Bricked status?!!
Thank you.

As long as you can get your hands on factory images, I wouldn't worry too much about system files. Otherwise, you should be able to find ways to make a system image; however that might require root or custom recovery.

korockinout13 said:
As long as you can get your hands on factory images, I wouldn't worry too much about system files. Otherwise, you should be able to find ways to make a system image; however that might require root or custom recovery.
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Yes I usually unlock the Bootloader and Root, but since being a Canadian means not having a choice when it comes to "Communication Industries"
I couldn't buy a "Developer Edition" or any "32Gb" version for that matter!! Hence getting a XT1097.
I was wondering about downgrading, I understand once I upgrade to Lollipop, there is no way back, right? If that is the case, can I just ignore the OTA? And stay on KK?
Thank you.

samteeee said:
Yes I usually unlock the Bootloader and Root, but since being a Canadian means not having a choice when it comes to "Communication Industries"
I couldn't buy a "Developer Edition" or any "32Gb" version for that matter!! Hence getting a XT1097.
I was wondering about downgrading, I understand once I upgrade to Lollipop, there is no way back, right? If that is the case, can I just ignore the OTA? And stay on KK?
Thank you.
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Without factory images or a full backup, there is no way back. However, it is safe to downgrade as long as you don't try to downgrade the bootloader or partition table. You can ignore the OTA, but it will probably be annoying. You might as well upgrade.

samteeee said:
Yes I usually unlock the Bootloader and Root, but since being a Canadian means not having a choice when it comes to "Communication Industries"
I couldn't buy a "Developer Edition" or any "32Gb" version for that matter!! Hence getting a XT1097.
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I have a thread on this in the General forum. If you update to lollipop using Motorola Device Manager, you will have a copy of fastboot flashable Lollipop files on your computer. Search for my post on General.
If you want the fastboot flashable Kit Kat files, you can request them from Motorola. If they won't give them to you, then you can search to see if anyone has copies of them. This is for Telus right? You also can specifically ask if anyone has them, they may.
The other thing you can do is after you unlock the bootloader and flash TWRP recovery, is to make a nandroid of your stock system on kit kat and save it on your computer. Then flash back to stock recovery and upgrade to lollipop using MDM. Then flash TWRP recovery again and make a nandroid of stock lollipop, save it to your computer, then root.
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samteeee said:
I couldn't buy a "Developer Edition" or any "32Gb" version for that matter!! Hence getting a XT1097.
I was wondering about downgrading, I understand once I upgrade to Lollipop, there is no way back, right?
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First off are you sure your device shipped with kitkat? Double check on that.
Once you upgrade to lollipop, you cannot downgrade the bootloader or the partition table back to kit kat, but you should be able to downgrade the kernel and the system back to kit kat w/o any issues. Idk about trying to downgrade the radios.

JulesJam said:
I have a thread on this in the General forum. If you update to lollipop using Motorola Device Manager, you will have a copy of fastboot flashable Lollipop files on your computer. Search for my post on General.
If you want the fastboot flashable Kit Kat files, you can request them from Motorola. If they won't give them to you, then you can search to see if anyone has copies of them. This is for Telus right? You also can specifically ask if anyone has them, they may.
The other thing you can do is after you unlock the bootloader and flash TWRP recovery, is to make a nandroid of your stock system on kit kat and save it on your computer. Then flash back to stock recovery and upgrade to lollipop using MDM. Then flash TWRP recovery again and make a nandroid of stock lollipop, save it to your computer, then root.
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First off are you sure your device shipped with kitkat? Double check on that.
Once you upgrade to lollipop, you cannot downgrade the bootloader or the partition table back to kit kat, but you should be able to downgrade the kernel and the system back to kit kat w/o any issues. Idk about trying to downgrade the radios.
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Thank you for your reply.
I just turned it on for the very first time! And I can confirm that it is on KK.
I like your solutions and will email Motorola tonight for the KK files. I will however upgrade to Lollipop via MDM so that I do have a copy of the "Fastboot Flashable Lollipop files".
Any suggestion on Rooting method? Also to copy the Nandroid to Pc, do I pull it with ADB? or just copy them from internal storage? And lastly I think once I upgrade, doesn't make sense to downgrade with so many complications, eh?
Thank you again.

korockinout13 said:
Without factory images or a full backup, there is no way back. However, it is safe to downgrade as long as you don't try to downgrade the bootloader or partition table. You can ignore the OTA, but it will probably be annoying. You might as well upgrade.
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Thanks bro.

Is your phone Telus or Wind mobile?
The original kitkat files for both can be downloaded no problem.
The 5.0.1 lollipop image for Telus can also be downloaded.
You can safely downgrade from Lollipop to Kitkat as long as you unlock your bootloader.

Steve-x said:
Is your phone Telus or Wind mobile?
The original kitkat files for both can be downloaded no problem.
The 5.0.1 lollipop image for Telus can also be downloaded.
You can safely downgrade from Lollipop to Kitkat as long as you unlock your bootloader.
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Hi
My phone is Telus Mobility.
Are the files on Motorola site?
Thank you.

[Q] KitKat Stock Downgrade

Noob question: can I downgrade xt1064 from official 5.0.2 to official 4.4.4 safely?
Sent from my Moto G 2014

shad876 said:
Noob question: can I downgrade xt1064 from official 5.0.2 to official 4.4.4 safely?
Sent from my Moto G 2014
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Yes!
Use the tools that are in General.
I've done it, and everything worked perfectly.

shad876 said:
Noob question: can I downgrade xt1064 from official 5.0.2 to official 4.4.4 safely?
Sent from my Moto G 2014
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Yes, check this link out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...dows-tool-moto-g-2014-xt1064-restore-t2957167
Post if you have any queries or doubts

dakshay95 said:
Yes, check this link out: http://forum.xda-developers.com/mot...dows-tool-moto-g-2014-xt1064-restore-t2957167
Post if you have any queries or doubts
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So will I be able to update via OTA after?
Sent from my Moto G 2014

shad876 said:
So will I be able to update via OTA after?
Sent from my Moto G 2014
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Yes. Try it and check for updates on your phone once you're done

dakshay95 said:
Yes. Try it and check for updates on your phone once you're done
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Okay great! Thanks guys!
Sent from my Moto G 2014

Update: worked like a charm guys. I'm back on official kk..
Sent from my XT1064

shad876 said:
Update: worked like a charm guys. I'm back on official kk..
Sent from my XT1064
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Great. Btw when you go to settings and check for updates, does it tell you that Lollipop is available for update?

dakshay95 said:
Great. Btw when you go to settings and check for updates, does it tell you that Lollipop is available for update?
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Yes it does
Sent from my XT1064

I also want to go back to kikat but afraid of break. Can i downgrade plz help me i wanna go back to official 4.4.4

amritmalviya said:
I also want to go back to kikat but afraid of break. Can i downgrade plz help me i wanna go back to official 4.4.4
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You can read it above, you can do it if you are on 5.0.2. If you are on 6.x you have to be careful not to downgrade the bootloader and never ever update via OTA!
(Infos about downgrading android versions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/xt1063-t3018818
But if you´re on 5.0.2 you should be on the safe side.

how to prevent bootloader not to downgraded?
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Wolfcity said:
You can read it above, you can do it if you are on 5.0.2. If you are on 6.x you have to be careful not to downgrade the bootloader and never ever update via OTA!
(Infos about downgrading android versions here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-g-2014/general/xt1063-t3018818
But if you´re on 5.0.2 you can read the postings of people who did it sucessful right above.
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how to prevent bootloader not to downgraded?

amritmalviya said:
how to prevent bootloader not to downgraded?
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how to prevent bootloader not to downgraded?
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You can read that in the link given above:
Lollipop 5.0.2 to Kitkat 4.4.4 : If your bootloader version is 4882/4883(Lollipop Bootloader), you need to make some changes while flashing the ROM manually.
- Download Kitkat 4.4.4 Factory Firmware image zip.
- Unzip the contents.
- Delete the motoboot.img file inside the extracted contents..
- Do not type "mfastboot.exe flash motoboot motoboot.img" while flashing the Kitkat 4.4.4 firmware image manually.
4. If you downgrade your bootloader version i.e flash a 4883 Lollipop bootloader on your existing 4886 Marshmallow bootloader, your phone will be hard-bricked / permanently dead. Therefore follow the instructions above carefully. I am not responsible for dead phones.
You´ll find a lot of infos about that in the general section. Read all that carefully, downgrading stock is a tricky thing.
I personally would flash a custom rom.

Wolfcity said:
You can read that in the link given above:
Lollipop 5.0.2 to Kitkat 4.4.4 : If your bootloader version is 4882/4883(Lollipop Bootloader), you need to make some changes while flashing the ROM manually.
- Download Kitkat 4.4.4 Factory Firmware image zip.
- Unzip the contents.
- Delete the motoboot.img file inside the extracted contents..
- Do not type "mfastboot.exe flash motoboot motoboot.img" while flashing the Kitkat 4.4.4 firmware image manually.
4. If you downgrade your bootloader version i.e flash a 4883 Lollipop bootloader on your existing 4886 Marshmallow bootloader, your phone will be hard-bricked / permanently dead. Therefore follow the instructions above carefully. I am not responsible for dead phones.
You´ll find a lot of infos about that in the general section. Read all that carefully, downgrading stock is a tricky thing.
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sorry for trouble you but please answer my more questions.....
on bootloader 4886 i can flash lollipop and KitKat both....
and main thing is not to downgrade bootloader, isn't it?

amritmalviya said:
sorry for trouble you but please answer my more questions.....
on bootloader 4886 i can flash lollipop and KitKat both....
and main thing is not to downgrade bootloader, isn't it?
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That´s right. But never upgrade via OTA again then because OTA doesn´t care about bootloaderversion and will hardbrick your phone.
If you down/upgrade stock rom you´ll have always to spare out boot.img (if you do it by using the commands one by one or if you do it by script. You have to delete the flash boot.img command out of the script/tool then).
This is only relevant for stock roms,custom roms doesn´t have this problem.

Wolfcity said:
That´s right. But never upgrade via OTA again then because OTA doesn´t care about bootloaderversion and will hardbrick your phone.
If you down/upgrade stock rom you´ll have always to spare out boot.img (if you do it by using the commands one by one or if you do it by script. You have to delete the flash boot.img command out of the script/tool then).
This is only relevant for stock roms,custom roms doesn´t have this problem.
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I have to skip just motoboot.img????????????

amritmalviya said:
I have to skip just motoboot.img????????????
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That´s what´s written in the "[GUIDE] [Titan] [MM, LP, KK] [Unlock + Root + Backup + Restore + Downgrade" thread and that´s what I know about that.
motoboot.img is the bootloader and if you don´t touch it you should be on the safe side.
I personally am on custom roms since 5.0.2 and have never flashed/downgraded/upgraded a stock rom again so I have no personal experience.
If you wanna be 100% sure ask @SharkcpN, the one who wrote that thread.

You can safely downgrade by skipping motoboot.img while flashing.
Once you downgrade to a lower android version, do not install any further OTA updates of higher Android version else it might lead to hardbrick. After downgrading, go to Settings > Apps > MotorolaOTA > Disable it
If you want to update to a higher android version, flash the higher android version ROM via fastboot mode only.

million-dollar idea = hard brick bootloader

I watch all the forum ... and nothing .... It strikes me the idea that solving this problem can handle only champion. I am not and I tried on all methods.
Why XDA no solution ??? XDA's largest community of Android developers I know. There must be a solution, and I want to find him here!
Help if you can, even God
thanks

at least tell us, what seems to be a problem? As for now, it sounds like you're going to pay a milion-dollars for someone who will hardbrick your bootloader. Am I right? Send it to me, I'll hardbrick with my hammer for that cash.

I think his problem is that is Bootloader IS hardbricked and NOT that he wants it hardbricked.. BTW I have a similar problem. I installed Android 6.0 on my xt1068 using The Indian soak test update. I then decided I wanted to downgrade back to 5.0.2 and my phone is now dead completely... So yeah an answer would be nice here. Thanks

One should try to install only system, recovery, radio partiotions.
Every update Moto updates fs structure, changes bootloader and radio. These are critical and should not be installed.

PsyClip-R said:
One should try to install only system, recovery, radio partiotions.
Every update Moto updates fs structure, changes bootloader and radio. These are critical and should not be installed.
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>These are critical and should not be installed.
More like they shouldn't be downgraded.

LuK1337 said:
>These are critical and should not be installed.
More like they shouldn't be downgraded.
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i m on soak test 6.0 update with rooted and twrp recovery and also have a twrp backup of stock rooted 5.0.2 so how can i get and install further ota updates ? can i restore from twrp backup of stock rooted 5.0.2 and then flash 5.0.2 to stay stock and get ready for updates please help as i know bootloader downgrade will brick my device
Blur_Version.24.41.34.titan_retaildsds.retaildsdsall.en.03.zip
has a gpt.bin file is it possible to replace the gpt.bin from 5.0.2 firmware files with one that is present in blur zip please help

my current bootloader is 48.86 i used xt1069 's marshmallow previously
I FLASHED XT1068_TITAN_RETAILDSDS_5.0.2_LXB22.99-16.3_Easy_Installer.zip ON BOOTLOADER 48.86 VIA FASTBOOT IT GIVES ME MSG IN PINK ( version downgrade for _gpt and version downgrade for tz) and rest is worked fine it successfully booted into the stock 5.0.2 after that i updated soak test update of 6.0 by coping blurred version into sd card and checking it by going into settings >about phones >system updates
so not faced any problem as of now i m sure what i done i have a video proof also that i flashed (XT1068_TITAN_RETAILDSDS_5.0.2_LXB22.99-16.3_Easy_Installer.zip ON BOOTLOADER 48.86)

Sorry could you please explain that in beginner's lanuguage?
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I've bricked my boot loader by downgrading and have taken it in for repair to my local cellphone repair guy and he told me it's dead and unfix-able. I was told to go to Motorola to get them to fix it except THERE is no Motorola service at all for South Africa... So I'm screwed?

Rebooting problem after trying to update to Marshmallow

I got a notification that my phone was able to update to Marshmallow today so downloaded the update and set the installation on its way. The problems start here, when rebooting after starting the installation it boots into TWRP, I'd previously rooted my phone but unrooted it after a while, though all I did was select the unroot option on SuperSU and didnt relock the bootloader or anything like that.
The TWRP is v2.8.7.0, and my Moto G is a XT1072 version and currently running 5.0.2.
Im tempted to factory reset but worried that might brick my phone. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Cheers

FlashHouse said:
I got a notification that my phone was able to update to Marshmallow today so downloaded the update and set the installation on its way. The problems start here, when rebooting after starting the installation it boots into TWRP, I'd previously rooted my phone but unrooted it after a while, though all I did was select the unroot option on SuperSU and didnt relock the bootloader or anything like that.
The TWRP is v2.8.7.0, and my Moto G is a XT1072 version and currently running 5.0.2.
Im tempted to factory reset but worried that might brick my phone. Any help is greatly appreciated.
Cheers
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You can´t update via OTA with a custom recovery like twrp installed. You have to be on stock recovery and the latest full unrooted non-modified stock firmware. Unlocked BL is no problem and doesn´t matter.
In most cases just unrooting and flashing back stock recovery is not enough because there still could be small changes which will make the OTA installation fail.
Nevertheless you can try that or you flash the latest 5.0.2 stock firmware.

Wolfcity said:
You can´t update via OTA with a custom recovery like twrp installed. You have to be on stock recovery and the latest full unrooted non-modified stock firmware. Unlocked BL is no problem and doesn´t matter.
In most cases just unrooting and flashing back stock recovery is not enough because there still could be small changes which will make the OTA installation fail.
Nevertheless you can try that or you flash the latest 5.0.2 stock firmware.
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Anex to words of Wolfcity, if you want to update via OTA you will need to install stock recovery and stock rom of LP, there is a procedure with a toolkit that you can easily find in general forum. The tool kit will help you to back again at the beginning. Nevertheless, why use stock firmware with a lot of cool roms to flash? [emoji4] [emoji106]
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Sorry mate, the toolkit is in Android development forum, here is the link http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2979862
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