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Hi all guys, I want to ask everyone to help me understanding why I my device is a bit laggy. Ok, I don't have a nexus, but I have an amazing quad core processor, a tegra 3 chipset!!
And even if flash custom ROMs I have this lag feeling, and not only feeling sometimes. I will be more accurate.
1) When I install apps or uninstall apps, I have some lags, now OK the phone is doing a big task but it is a bit too laggy.
2) Switching between apps can be laggy some times, and not just with big apps.
3) I have noticed that even having not much apps working background, the phone give me this impression of lagness, I have 1gb ram and a quad core, I get angry if it start to run slowly only for some apps working background, I mean the hardware is powerfully enough.
After all I must say that I have tryed these ROMs.
Carbon, slimbean, liquid smooth, and CyanogenMod (that is a bit better on performance).
My favourite is slimbean because I feel it stable.
And I have tryed most of the kernels, like werewolf, optimous prime, and iodak at last, and I like this last one.
Can someone help me understand this? Thank you guys!
Ah, sorry for my not clear English :S
LoKKeR said:
Hi all guys, I want to ask everyone to help me understanding why I my device is a bit laggy. Ok, I don't have a nexus, but I have an amazing quad core processor, a tegra 3 chipset!!
And even if flash custom ROMs I have this lag feeling, and not only feeling sometimes. I will be more accurate.
1) When I install apps or uninstall apps, I have some lags, now OK the phone is doing a big task but it is a bit too laggy.
2) Switching between apps can be laggy some times, and not just with big apps.
3) I have noticed that even having not much apps working background, the phone give me this impression of lagness, I have 1gb ram and a quad core, I get angry if it start to run slowly only for some apps working background, I mean the hardware is powerfully enough.
After all I must say that I have tryed these ROMs.
Carbon, slimbean, liquid smooth, and CyanogenMod (that is a bit better on performance).
My favourite is slimbean because I feel it stable.
And I have tryed most of the kernels, like werewolf, optimous prime, and iodak at last, and I like this last one.
Can someone help me understand this? Thank you guys!
Ah, sorry for my not clear English :S
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I always felt that too, until I flashed kit kat and mokee kernel. You can try it out
If you're on stock, number 1. might be caused by MLT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2187920
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Nono i don't like anymore stock beucase is not best for performance. Anyway thank @Coolneng I will try it. There are compatibility issues for apps like GTA or something else? I have heard something.
LoKKeR said:
Nono i don't like anymore stock beucase is not best for performance. Anyway thank @Coolneng I will try it. There are compatibility issues for apps like GTA or something else? I have heard something.
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I have no idea, I don't play any games on phone ^^
I have tried kitkat and it is nice, but it's not much stable so I have chosen to return to stock (zaiben rom) with iodak kernel and I'm impressed, it is fast and smooth with this kernel.
Anyway I think that all Roms that we have are unstable in their way, so I prefer stock where all works.
LoKKeR said:
I have tried kitkat and it is nice, but it's not much stable so I have chosen to return to stock (zaiben rom) with iodak kernel and I'm impressed, it is fast and smooth with this kernel.
Anyway I think that all Roms that we have are unstable in their way, so I prefer stock where all works.
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If you're on a stock based ROM, I suggest you still check for that MLT apk
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This rom doesn't have mlt.apk but have logservice.apk and if I delete it the Rom stop working
Kernel : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50072951&postcount=2066 (Iodak v9.95)
Rom : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2481929
Try to do a full wipe of /system before install .
Trickster mod settings :
CPUQuiet : balanced
Multicore power saving : 1
CPU : Max 1.3 Ghz , Interactive
Try lagfix https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.grilledmonkey.lagfix&hl=en
I feel my phone more smoothly after i dezactivate all animations .
I know I know benchmark is useless, it's not everything about a phone, but please benchmarking can at least assure me that everything is working according to settings and what deliver what the phone promised. I have a Mi 5 64gb and using AICP ROM. I've been benchmarking on Antutu and average around 125k but on Miui I got around 136k. I thought it must be the kernel settings so I switched governor to performance and they dropped even harder 110k in Xceed kernel, OC DragonXia i got 100k... Is this normal? I tested on Geekbench 4, but the same thing happened. What can I do about this?
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I know I know benchmark is useless, it's not everything about a phone, but please benchmarking can at least assure me that everything is working according to settings and what deliver what the phone promised. I have a Mi 5 64gb and using AICP ROM. I've been benchmarking on Antutu and average around 125k but on Miui I got around 136k. I thought it must be the kernel settings so I switched governor to performance and they dropped even harder 110k in Xceed kernel, OC DragonXia i got 100k... Is this normal? I tested on Geekbench 4, but the same thing happened. What can I do about this?
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I think it's the ROM. I'm using the AOSP CAF ROM with OC DragonXia kernel, and not only is performance buttery smooth but benchmarks are high. I've attached screenshots showing how the phone runs with all my apps and dual sim enabled. I have the 3GB 32GB model that has slower RAM too.
But ultimately benchmarks mean nothing. You just need to concern yourself whether you're happy with your phone's performance or not, and if not just change ROM/Kernel/Kernel settings.
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I think it's the ROM. I'm using the AOSP CAF ROM with OC DragonXia kernel, and not only is performance buttery smooth but benchmarks are high. I've attached screenshots showing how the phone runs with all my apps and dual sim enabled. I have the 3GB 32GB model that has slower RAM too.
But ultimately benchmarks mean nothing. You just need to concern yourself whether you're happy with your phone's performance or not, and if not just change ROM/Kernel/Kernel settings.
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Hmm... That's weird eh? Just messing with my phone around with OC Kernel so I need to know if the OC works... but yeah. Thank you for your reply!
bg.ninh said:
Hmm... That's weird eh? Just messing with my phone around with OC Kernel so I need to know if the OC works... but yeah. Thank you for your reply!
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It is, but I find most LOS based ROMs for the Mi5 have bad performance. OC works on DragonXia, my phone is up from 1.8 to 2.3GHz
I tried out your ROM yesterday but there were no phone or contact app, is it supposed to be that way?
xdadevet said:
It is, but I find most LOS based ROMs for the Mi5 have bad performance. OC works on DragonXia, my phone is up from 1.8 to 2.3GHz
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I tried out your ROM yesterday but there were no phone or contact app, is it supposed to be that way?
bg.ninh said:
I tried out your ROM yesterday but there were no phone or contact app, is it supposed to be that way?
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Yes, you only install what you need. Besides, the phone and contact app is included in GAPPS, if you flashed it it should be there. Else you can just install it from the Play Store, it works just as well.
How to increase the battery life and make it last longer? I shifted for Xperia Z2 to Note 5 and the difference in SOT is waaay too much. Are there any battery efficient roms or kernels or any tweaks to make it last longer?
The best I've seen was with MM, using SkyHigh kernel - disable the big cores, underclock the gpu, increase sensor intervals. But unfortunately that kernel is not at all stable. It likes to crash and freeze up a lot.
Our device isn't well supported compared to non-exynos devices.
Turbine1991 said:
The best I've seen was with MM, using SkyHigh kernel - disable the big cores, underclock the gpu, increase sensor intervals. But unfortunately that kernel is not at all stable. It likes to crash and freeze up a lot.
Our device isn't well supported compared to non-exynos devices.
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How much SOT do you get?
Turbine1991 said:
The best I've seen was with MM, using SkyHigh kernel - disable the big cores, underclock the gpu, increase sensor intervals. But unfortunately that kernel is not at all stable. It likes to crash and freeze up a lot.
Our device isn't well supported compared to non-exynos devices.
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Although you can't disable all the big cores(min 1 core stays online afaik), messing with kernel stuffs -which you may not doing it correctly- makes it unstable. Otherwise it was stable as rock. On behalf of an official tester, even experimental versions were doing great. You just have be aware of what you're messing with, it was for advanced users. Otherwise you can just flash it and use, there is even no need to install synapse. Sigh.. Good old times.
Hi, I have a one plus 3t and I would like if someone knows a configuration to play, if it exists or something.
Thank you
As long as the Kernel does not underclock your CPU/GPU for Battery Life, any Kernel/ROM should be fine.
thes3usa said:
As long as the Kernel does not underclock your CPU/GPU for Battery Life, any Kernel/ROM should be fine.
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That's what I would think. The hardware on this phone is killer. Only bettered by Snapdragon 835 phones (or the upcoming phones for this year).
I wonder if the top poster is having a specific issue with games? Or just looking to tweak/overclock, despite no real issues?
redpoint73 said:
That's what I would think. The hardware on this phone is killer. Only bettered by Snapdragon 835 phones (or the upcoming phones for this year).
I wonder if the top poster is having a specific issue with games? Or just looking to tweak/overclock, despite no real issues?
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I'm guessing the latter. He's probably on Stock, and he just wants to know if there's any possibility on increasing Performance in Workloads/Games. Nothing much else.
If he does want some recommendations, Caesium Kernel or ElementalX paired with Stock or a highly AOSP based ROM like NOS should do well. Not that the other Kernels or ROMs will be much different, this is just my experience.
thes3usa said:
I'm guessing the latter. He's probably on Stock, and he just wants to know if there's any possibility on increasing Performance in Workloads/Games. Nothing much else.
If he does want some recommendations, Caesium Kernel or ElementalX paired with Stock or a highly AOSP based ROM like NOS should do well. Not that the other Kernels or ROMs will be much different, this is just my experience.
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right now I am using the z-unleasht, it runs well the games but it was out of curiosity if there was some configuration of Kernel so that it does not drink so much battery and render better
You should try helix engine: https://forum.xda-developers.com/oneplus-5/themes/app-helix-engine-v1-0-beta-3-t3745746/
Then use "AKT balanced" (change in settings). You can choose for every App other profiles -> change it to performance for your games.
Then you have a fast smartphone with great battery life, and performance while gaming.
You need to be rooted
isaac.mesacorpas said:
right now I am using the z-unleasht, it runs well the games but it was out of curiosity if there was some configuration of Kernel so that it does not drink so much battery and render better
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It's not possible to go after battery economy while wanting to perform heavy duty tasks.
It's either one or the other.
Unleashed by my rooted OP3T on 8.0
thanks for the app i am researching to have ..
Hi guys, i have tried many custom kernel such as ElementalX, Flash kernel, Boeffla, Blu_spark, Wolfram..... etc and I still find that my OnePlus 3T can't handle big games..... unstable FPS even at low settings.... and It heats up pretty quick and render the CPU to lower its frequency, etc.....
Hey guys. I usually wouldnt have made a thread like this, but honestly, i am getting tired trying rom after rom to find the one that works. I am the sort of guy who switches phones pretty often because i like what Devs at XDA are able to do to customize them. So i have recently started using higher end phones, and coming from mid-rangers i expected awesome performance and lag free experience. My last device was a one plus 2. After switching to mi5(which has a better processor), i have been experiencing lag spikes with rom. None of them work perfectly smooth, I would go to the depth of saying that my old Nexus 5 provides much smoother experience compared to this. Surprisingly, this is not the case with miui. The stock Miui rom aswell as my current rom(cpMIUI) are both super smooth(as is expected out of a sd820). I am stock android guy though, also google camera port doesnt work on miui. I just wanted to confirm if it was just my unit or is everyone facing similar issues. Buying a sd820, i dont expect something as simple as pulling down the notification bar to be laggy. Also. this issue is more prominent with Lineage OS and Lineage OS based roms. I found AOSP rooms to be generally smoother, but still, laggy enough to notice. This really wasnt the case with OP2, and i honestly wouldnt have switched if it wasnt for the amazing camera of Mi5(only with GcamMod ). Any help would be much appreciated. PS: I have tried custom kernels, even those which overclock this sd820 to normal frequencies. But no luck . I really dont have the budget to switch phones rn, and i would like to stick to mi5. Hope someone can help.
aditya1999 said:
Hey guys. I usually wouldnt have made a thread like this, but honestly, i am getting tired trying rom after rom to find the one that works. I am the sort of guy who switches phones pretty often because i like what Devs at XDA are able to do to customize them. So i have recently started using higher end phones, and coming from mid-rangers i expected awesome performance and lag free experience. My last device was a one plus 2. After switching to mi5(which has a better processor), i have been experiencing lag spikes with rom. None of them work perfectly smooth, I would go to the depth of saying that my old Nexus 5 provides much smoother experience compared to this. Surprisingly, this is not the case with miui. The stock Miui rom aswell as my current rom(cpMIUI) are both super smooth(as is expected out of a sd820). I am stock android guy though, also google camera port doesnt work on miui. I just wanted to confirm if it was just my unit or is everyone facing similar issues. Buying a sd820, i dont expect something as simple as pulling down the notification bar to be laggy. Also. this issue is more prominent with Lineage OS and Lineage OS based roms. I found AOSP rooms to be generally smoother, but still, laggy enough to notice. This really wasnt the case with OP2, and i honestly wouldnt have switched if it wasnt for the amazing camera of Mi5(only with GcamMod ). Any help would be much appreciated. PS: I have tried custom kernels, even those which overclock this sd820 to normal frequencies. But no luck . I really dont have the budget to switch phones rn, and i would like to stick to mi5. Hope someone can help.
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Mi devices works better with MIUI... That's just the way it is. Custom rom experience on Mi can't compare with the likes of Oneplus, Nexus, or maybe Pixel...
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u can install Gcam in miui just use magisk to root and add camera fix module
Gcam will work in miui9
am using los15.1 and most of the apps freezed now its smooth and giving good battery life
All lags, freezes and scroll stutters caused by kernel. All oreo kernels based on HMP scheduling with perf daemon. And don't know why, but it cant provide smooth FPS while ui drawing (maybe some bug with frequency drops). So, 90% roms based on Oreo will lag while drawing UI all time (you can check it in dev settings > Profile GPU Rendering). Some roms trying to avoid this bug, like LOS, AEXMod with some tweaks in governor. This 2 roms much smoother than other. Or you can change default governor from Interactive to Conservative (root required). It brings massive boost on ui drawing smoothness. Or try something based on EAS kernels (Purefusion, JDC AOSP). But these roms based on 8.0 Oreo.
StealthHD said:
All lags, freezes and scroll stutters caused by kernel. All oreo kernels based on HMP scheduling with perf daemon. And don't know why, but it cant provide smooth FPS while ui drawing (maybe some bug with frequency drops). So, 90% roms based on Oreo will lag while drawing UI all time (you can check it in dev settings > Profile GPU Rendering). Some roms trying to avoid this bug, like LOS, AEXMod with some tweaks in governor. This 2 roms much smoother than other. Or you can change default governor from Interactive to Conservative (root required). It brings massive boost on ui drawing smoothness. r try something based on EAS kernels (Purefusion, JDC AOSP). But these roms based on 8.0 Oreo.
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Thanks for a constructive reply. I am not using LOS because of the fingerprint delay bug, also i found LOS to be the laggiest of them all. But i recently installed Cosmic os 8.1, and this one seems to be rendering fine. It is using the priima kernel i suppose, with interactive governors and cfq for io scheduling. Also, i just checked, it has oc'ed the sd820 to normal frequencies (2.15 and .16)
Also, i have tried Floppy kernel, based on all 3, Google, linaro and ubertc. Also, i tried switching the governor to zen(the one i am aware of thats made to make your ui smoother). This issue is not only persistent with oreo roms, but also the nougat roms. But i have been happy and impressed by cosmic, but i will keep on switching roms and hopefully would be able to provide some feedback to the XDA community.
vaisakmct said:
u can install Gcam in miui just use magisk to root and add camera fix module
Gcam will work in miui9
am using los15.1 and most of the apps freezed now its smooth and giving good battery life
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I will try that one. Can you link me to the module thread?
aditya1999 said:
Hey guys. I usually wouldnt have made a thread like this, but honestly, i am getting tired trying rom after rom to find the one that works. I am the sort of guy who switches phones pretty often because i like what Devs at XDA are able to do to customize them. So i have recently started using higher end phones, and coming from mid-rangers i expected awesome performance and lag free experience. My last device was a one plus 2. After switching to mi5(which has a better processor), i have been experiencing lag spikes with rom. None of them work perfectly smooth, I would go to the depth of saying that my old Nexus 5 provides much smoother experience compared to this. Surprisingly, this is not the case with miui. The stock Miui rom aswell as my current rom(cpMIUI) are both super smooth(as is expected out of a sd820). I am stock android guy though, also google camera port doesnt work on miui. I just wanted to confirm if it was just my unit or is everyone facing similar issues. Buying a sd820, i dont expect something as simple as pulling down the notification bar to be laggy. Also. this issue is more prominent with Lineage OS and Lineage OS based roms. I found AOSP rooms to be generally smoother, but still, laggy enough to notice. This really wasnt the case with OP2, and i honestly wouldnt have switched if it wasnt for the amazing camera of Mi5(only with GcamMod ). Any help would be much appreciated. PS: I have tried custom kernels, even those which overclock this sd820 to normal frequencies. But no luck . I really dont have the budget to switch phones rn, and i would like to stick to mi5. Hope someone can help.
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Absolutely yes! People were blaming me also for using antutu, because I had this doubt, then discovered that the kernel uses a strange sort of cpu scheduler which causes a performance drop of 20/25%, (still can't fix switching performance profile) results were different switching to a custom kernel. I think that people when create new roms they just steal LOS kernel, so that's why this issue occurs in more than one rom.
Anyway I also prefer the stock android camera, and I like to use the "classic" way instead of magisk thing (never liked that), just download GCam, then remove in the framework folder the camera_experimental.jar (or something called like that) and you should be fine, there are some little bugs too but is is usable.
lukypuie said:
Absolutely yes! People were blaming me also for using antutu, because I had this doubt, then discovered that the kernel uses a strange sort of cpu scheduler which causes a performance drop of 20/25%, (still can't fix switching performance profile) results were different switching to a custom kernel. I think that people when create new roms they just steal LOS kernel, so that's why this issue occurs in more than one rom.
Anyway I also prefer the stock android camera, and I like to use the "classic" way instead of magisk thing (never liked that), just download GCam, then remove in the framework folder the camera_experimental.jar (or something called like that) and you should be fine, there are some little bugs too but is is usable.
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So which kernel are you using rn? Cosmic OS comes with the priima kernel, it is the best experience i have had by far. Glad to know i am not the only one suffering stutters, but also kinda disappointed to see this happen.
aditya1999 said:
So which kernel are you using rn? Cosmic OS comes with the priima kernel, it is the best experience i have had by far. Glad to know i am not the only one suffering stutters, but also kinda disappointed to see this happen.
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Yea, me too, and there were people who treated me like crazy lmao, imo is a kernel scheduler issue, btw Idk why that happens , anyway there are plenty of custom kernels, in particular I used Floppy which fixes the problem.(Still need to tweak some kernel governor settings)
lukypuie said:
Yea, me too, and there were people who treated me like crazy lmao, imo is a kernel scheduler issue, btw Idk why that happens , anyway there are plenty of custom kernels, in particular I used Floppy which fixes the problem.(Still need to tweak some kernel governor settings)
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Aye i tried floppy. Didnt quite work for me. Regardless, priima is working fine. I am thinking of switching to other roms. Will try the floppy again, thanks for the advice.
aditya1999 said:
Aye i tried floppy. Didnt quite work for me. Regardless, priima is working fine. I am thinking of switching to other roms. Will try the floppy again, thanks for the advice.
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When i said it needs some tweaks, that is because it works in a strange way, the performance profile in the "Battery" section of LOS needs to be set to something higher, that controls the CPU, meanwhile there I also used an app called "Spectrum" that lets you control the GPU performance profile (Even though it should be control CPU), you need to set all of those to "Balanced"
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When i said it needs some tweaks, that is because it works in a strange way, the performance profile in the "Battery" section of LOS needs to be set to something higher, that controls the CPU, meanwhile there I also used an app called "Spectrum" that lets you control the GPU performance profile (Even though it should be control CPU), you need to set all of those to "Balanced"
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Interesting. I am busy this weekend, but i will surely test this one after i come back.
Yes
aditya1999 said:
Hey guys. I usually wouldnt have made a thread like this, but honestly, i am getting tired trying rom after rom to find the one that works. I am the sort of guy who switches phones pretty often because i like what Devs at XDA are able to do to customize them. So i have recently started using higher end phones, and coming from mid-rangers i expected awesome performance and lag free experience. My last device was a one plus 2. After switching to mi5(which has a better processor), i have been experiencing lag spikes with rom. None of them work perfectly smooth, I would go to the depth of saying that my old Nexus 5 provides much smoother experience compared to this. Surprisingly, this is not the case with miui. The stock Miui rom aswell as my current rom(cpMIUI) are both super smooth(as is expected out of a sd820). I am stock android guy though, also google camera port doesnt work on miui. I just wanted to confirm if it was just my unit or is everyone facing similar issues. Buying a sd820, i dont expect something as simple as pulling down the notification bar to be laggy. Also. this issue is more prominent with Lineage OS and Lineage OS based roms. I found AOSP rooms to be generally smoother, but still, laggy enough to notice. This really wasnt the case with OP2, and i honestly wouldnt have switched if it wasnt for the amazing camera of Mi5(only with GcamMod ). Any help would be much appreciated. PS: I have tried custom kernels, even those which overclock this sd820 to normal frequencies. But no luck . I really dont have the budget to switch phones rn, and i would like to stick to mi5. Hope someone can help.
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Hello, I have the same problem. My MI 5 only works on miui. Any other newer rom with android Oreo brings me problems, slow looks like snapdragon 4xx. Game performance gets horrible. But they are only in the most recent roms, because in the stable JDC Team 7.1.2 rom it behaves absurdly fluid and fast, in Lineage 14.1 as well. I do not know what causes this but I can not use any more Oreo roms. I prefer Pure Android but can not use the new roms at the moment, I should settle for the nougat or miui roms. Well, I'm not saying that the new roms are bad, the work of the developers is wonderful, congratulations to everyone, but something in the new roms does not behave well.
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Hello, I have the same problem. My MI 5 only works on miui. Any other newer rom with android Oreo brings me problems, slow looks like snapdragon 4xx. Game performance gets horrible. But they are only in the most recent roms, because in the stable JDC Team 7.1.2 rom it behaves absurdly fluid and fast, in Lineage 14.1 as well. I do not know what causes this but I can not use any more Oreo roms. I prefer Pure Android but can not use the new roms at the moment, I should settle for the nougat or miui roms. Well, I'm not saying that the new roms are bad, the work of the developers is wonderful, congratulations to everyone, but something in the new roms does not behave well.
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Try the cosmic os. It seems to be working amazingly well. Also Los never worked for me, full of stutters and the ofc the fingerprint delay on lockscreen issue. Also yeah, jdc aosp should work, in my experiments, all AOSP based roms are working fine, there is some issue with Los kernel, and hence with all roms based off of it.