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Red light of death fixed!!! (sticky???)

I think I just figured out how to fix it!!!!!!! I was tinkering around and got my red light brick to turn on!!!! I'm not sure exactly what fixed it so here's everything I did-
1. Removed the storage & sim cards.
2. Took off the backplate.
3. Removed the battery.
4. Bent these 2 pins up a little bit:
5. Put the battery in at an angle, so that the power leads were connected, but the metal shielding plate on the back of the battery was not touching:
6. Hit the power button (with the battery still "halfway" installed) Bam, green light of life.
Somebody please confirm this. Meanwhile I'll be copywriting this process so anyone who performs it owes me 10 bucks

So my replacement Tilt isn't working either, so they're overnighting me a third one. In the meantime, I haven't sent back my original (RLoDed) Tilt, so I thought I'd play around with some of your theories.
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Another thought I had. After the tilt goes into red brick death mode, has anyone tried plugging it into power, battery installed, and then holding down power+camera(all the way) and then pushing in the reset button on the bottom? This may trigger it to go into flash mode - although I kinda doubt it'll work. Worth a shot! Might be able to reflash it back to life! Holding down power and camera while it boots is how you manually force it to get in the Red/Green/Blue firmware flash mode. If it let us do that much when the device bricked we might have a snowball's chance in hell of getting them working. I didn't think of trying it before I returned mine tho. D'oh!
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I didn't know what to try besides installing the battery and SIM card and trying to push down the power, camera, and stylus buttons (I knew I was doing it correctly, because I had to use this to return my second Tilt to factory specs). No response whatsoever! This thing is deader than a doornail. Except for the red LED, of course... that works REALLY well whenever it's plugged in.
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I think I just figured out how to fix it!!!!!!! I was tinkering around and got my red light brick to turn on!!!! I'm not sure exactly what fixed it so here's everything I did-
1. Removed the storage & sim cards.
2. Took off the backplate.
3. Removed the battery.
4. Bent these 2 pins up a little bit:
5. Put the battery in at an angle, so that the power leads were connected, but the metal shielding plate on the back of the battery was not touching:
6. Hit the power button (with the battery still "halfway" installed) Bam, green light of life.
Somebody please confirm this. Meanwhile I'll be copywriting this process so anyone who performs it owes me 10 bucks
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I appreciate your enthusiasm, but the only thing I can confirm is that this did NOT work on my RLoDed Tilt. Tried it several times in various ways. I think you just seriously lucked out!
As such, I'd also have to vote against stickying this... for now.
Best of luck, all... if not actually in fixing your RLoDed Tilts, then definitely in avoiding the $500 service fee if AT&T discovers we voided our warranties.

alright i will confirm this too....my phone was truely RLOD..... i did the same thing that these guys did just jammin the battery in and out and it "jump started the phone"
exact process used
Moto Razr charger
hold down power button
"bounce" battery on and off the contacts for the battery a good 100 times or so
green light apeared after the red light started to flicker a little bit..... tis as if you were giving the phone CPR or something
im not going to call this a fix all i know is that the phone was RLOD and now it is working....battery is at 54% right now and i will post back in a bit to see if it has risen at all....
no smell arising from device
running origional rom but have had other roms on there (alex's)
hard SPL still installed on device
SPB phone suite is the last software that was installed on the device
reg tweaks installed as well, the usual ones no sms, hsdpa enabled blah blah blah
that is about all i can provide....the unit was on the computer overnight charging....when i woke up it was RLOD....and i was sad....i did have the ATT store replace the battery for me as well dunno if that had anything to do with the issue...
in the time that it has taken me to write this the battery is now at 55% so it is charging.....on wall charger with MOTO razr charger
ok lets take a little closer look at what happened within the past little bit....
after gettin the device all up and running it was behaving very oddly.... it would go through multiple attempts to connect to the data network for various reasons....after showing that it was at 55% on the charger it went back down to 54%... i pulled it off the charger and took it into the other room to do something......within 10 min it was down to 46%....now having a data connection my blackberry connect should have a valid network connection....but it did not... not sure why...
the best that i can conclude is that it was trying to connect to so many things all at the same time that it exhausted its self that fast....
so the question is how many people out there that have RLOD are running the BB connect software on there devices and have made REG edits to the data connection time outs and the HSDPA mod availability
editing those settings together may confuse the device and make it think that it has to connect to too many things at one time....
just another thought process that i thought that i would throw out there...
here are some things on the my device that would use the DATA connection and automatically initiate the connection on the device rather than you opening a program forcing it to connect such as Internet explorer
GPS update
HTC home weather tab
SPB weather tab
Blackberry connect
SPB insight....RSS Reader
text messages going in and out....my phone sees quite a few of those
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There have been a few other people who have now fixed their RLOD's. Confirmed it was done by messing about with the battery. If you have revived yours, please post your method in here so we can compare them and eventually pinpoint the fix. Thanks.

i had the same prob..took out the batterly wiped the four contact points on the phone (might of pushed them down or up) and put battery back in and worked..

I believe sWuRv was onto something. My Tilt had the RLOD today. I tried everything, even what he suggested above to no avail. So I called warranty and got my replacement on it's way, express shipping waved and all. So I decided to everything I could think of to try and get the thing back on so I might be able to back up my data again.
I started fooling with the battery, like sWuRv suggested but I moved it all around at 45 degrees or so pushing the power on button. I noticed while it was plugged to the USB with red light on that every now and then the red light would flash when I moved the battery so the contacts moved (while holding the battery at that 45 degrees). I started getting the light to go yellow but it would not stay. So I unplugged from the USB and kept trying it while pushing the power button. It eventually started and I was able to back up to my SD card. One thing I can tell you is that this process caused the phone to get hot and smell like electronics burning a little. There is definitely a power problem inside.
I have no idea how or why this worked but it did. I think I will still take the replacement even though I have to figure out how to swap my fancy invisible armor clear protector skin.
I'll try and update on whether this phone dies again or what until I get the new one.

rlod
I tried messing with the battery in a variety of ways for 30 minutes with no sucess. RLOD stayed solid.

RLOD
Holy shoot............After bouncing my battery up and down about 40 times my phone came to life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Reseating the battery and/or sim/storage cards is hardly a revolutionary procedure. Its Cellphone 101.

you guys are LIFE SAVERS. I have been on this forum for about a month now and I finally found a reason to post. I haven't posted because I always find my answers. I just wanted to thank everyone, as I have been on the phone with Amazon.com (where i got my tilt), went into an AT&T store and was on the phone with HTC tech support ALL day trying to resolve my red light issue. Unbelievable that all I needed to do was give it some "battery CPR":

UGHHHH. Well i found reason to make post #2. The fix lasted less than 5 minutes.

this did not work for me

These stories remind me off all the bad batteries/no powerup of my Motorola Q and those of others. My mother is on her 4th Q and I know its the battery, but the store just swaps out the whole phone. I've seen batteries last as little at 2 weeks, especially if let run down to empty at any point.
My questions are, is this just a bad battery problem? Does anyone with RLoD have a spare battery to try? If these batteries fail in the shorted condition, will they over draw power from the phone and mess up the charging circuit?
Roto

"Not the Mama", OR, NOT THE BATTERY
rotohammer said:
These stories remind me off all the bad batteries/no powerup of my Motorola Q and those of others. My mother is on her 4th Q and I know its the battery, but the store just swaps out the whole phone. I've seen batteries last as little at 2 weeks, especially if let run down to empty at any point.
My questions are, is this just a bad battery problem? Does anyone with RLoD have a spare battery to try? If these batteries fail in the shorted condition, will they over draw power from the phone and mess up the charging circuit?
Roto
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I certainly don't believe it's a bad battery problem. I had 2 spare batteries, fully charged with separate docking charger - none of the 3 batteries made any difference once I got the RLOD.

cushcalc said:
I certainly don't believe it's a bad battery problem. I had 2 spare batteries, fully charged with separate docking charger - none of the 3 batteries made any difference once I got the RLOD.
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Very good, thanks for the insight!

I finished a call yesterday and then dropped my phone on to the pavement cos I was a bit drunk... Anyway this caused my phone to go from working fine (all be it with pants battery life) to just flashing the red light. Fixed it today. I tried the methods prescribed in this thread without success although I did not persevere for very long. I then put a spare battery in to the phonea and bingo the orange light comes on, phone boots up and it's now happilly charging. Note that I charged the old battery for several hours before trying the fix. Pity nobody seems to know what the problem actually is. I wish HTC would let us know....

sWuRv said:
There have been a few other people who have now fixed their RLOD's. Confirmed it was done by messing about with the battery. If you have revived yours, please post your method in here so we can compare them and eventually pinpoint the fix. Thanks.
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I had a similar problem with my old iPAQ hw6515, and a Motorola V3. The contacts on the battery don't spring forward as well on an older phone as they do when it was new. I shimmed the battery. I did this by taking a business card and holding it against the opposite side of the battery from the contacts I traced the battery's profile and cut it out. I scotch taped my new shim to that side of the battery, then re-inserted it. This forces the battery up against the contacts better and in many times resolves inoperable phones, failure to charge, and spontaneous rebooting issues.
-Jay

My replacement tilt (first one had a bad USB connector) died Sunday.
Had it on the charger, looked down, red LED. Back of phone was pretty
warm. Pulled the battery, SIM, memory card, slammed the battery onto the
battery contacts rapidly 5-6 times, put the SIM, memory, battery back into
it, and it charged up. Did a hard reset. Battery was 100% charged, I turned
it completely OFF when I went to bed. Got up, battery was 0% drained!
Red LED again. Did the rapid thingy with the battery again, orange charge
light came on.
Called at&t warranty replacement. When I told her I had a red LED, she didn't
even ask me to do anything else. She just asked for the IMIE number and shipped me another one.
Maybe the 3rd one will be the charm LOL.......
I'm beginning to think that HTC doesn't stand for "high tech computes" but
"high tech CRAP"....

Maybe you guys got the margin of error productions? I know its really unlikely that you could get them again after a replacement but it is possible, and it maybe your computer. What do you think could be making this things go crazy? Overly protective anti-virus, I know, I know but it could do things secretly and screw around like mine does and wont let me into sites I have been on before on the same app no changes . . . Well I hope you luck.

ok I just tried everything you guys said, but it didn't work for me
so as some of you have stated it must be the battery, so what I did is put it between my hands for about 1 minute and put it in and it worked again!
really weird... must be the heat?
well hope that helps the research
Cheers
Jay

Bionic won't turn on...

Well, I'm baffled.
Last night I looked down to see my Bionic bootlooping. I let it do its thing and after a few reboots it stopped. Whatever, it's android, it's buggy.
Then when I picked it up, I realized it wasn't even on anymore. I tried to turn it on, nothing. So, I pulled the battery for a minute, popped it back on, and... still nothing.
Long story short, I ended up going to Verizon, trying different batteries, chargers, etc, and I can't get an inch of life out of the phone.
I can see a white LED light up when the phone is connected via the stock USB cable. No other cable will do it, and the wall charger won't do it. I don't know if this really indicates anything or not...
Is there anything else I can even try? It won't even boot into recovery - I never see the red M at all, the screen doesn't so much as even flicker. Unfortunately I bought the phone second hand from an iPhone 4S switcher, so there's nothing I can do to get a warranty replacement.
It's back to my original Droid for now...

I had the same problem Sunday night. Called tech support and they overnight-ed a replacement.

Try holding Volume down + power from the off state for a few seconds then letting go.
Or try Both Volume buttons + Power.
If those do nothing, it sounds like you have a very expensive paperweight. You need a replacement, sorry.
Whatever you do, DO NOT send the phone into Verizon!
Make up some excuse like you lost it or someone stole it or something.

Had my first Bionic do this I said I lost it claimed on my insurance but new one acts up also usually when it's overheating got my old one to fastboot did a complete restore to stock tested it by steaming netflix that lasted for about half an hour now it's just a paper weight!
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using XDA App

Would Motorola honor the 1 year warranty?

cryptiq said:
Would Motorola honor the 1 year warranty?
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If it covers your excuse, yeah.

Tivo7 said:
If it covers your excuse, yeah.
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Based on what details we have from the OP, it doesn't sound like he did anything to damage or modify the phone. So if the phone is stock he should be able to get help from Moto I presume?

what i did was
i had the verizon rep patch me straight through to insurion and got my o.g droid replaced.

I tried to get into recovery with no luck.
Unfortunately I'm not the original owner, so I can't send a receipt or anything Motorola's way. I do have the original box, though, and the original owner had it all of three days...
My phone was rooted to freeze some bloatware, but still on the stock ROM. It was running that way for weeks, so there's no way that would have caused it. I've never seen a phone just... completely keel over before. I'm half tempted to just use my original droid for 2-3 weeks and grab the nexus when it comes out.

If you haven't messed with any system files and you're completely stock, you can take the phone in for repair.

It's rooted, but there's no way for them to tell if it won't boot.
Motorola's live chat rep offered to let me send it in for RMA repair. The fine print says, though, that the repair stops being free the second they see anything that voids the warranty. My assumption is that they'll never be able to tell it's rooted because they will need to just send a refurb if it's shorted out, but should I bother risking it?

c0LdFire said:
I tried to get into recovery with no luck.
Unfortunately I'm not the original owner, so I can't send a receipt or anything Motorola's way. I do have the original box, though, and the original owner had it all of three days...
My phone was rooted to freeze some bloatware, but still on the stock ROM. It was running that way for weeks, so there's no way that would have caused it. I've never seen a phone just... completely keel over before. I'm half tempted to just use my original droid for 2-3 weeks and grab the nexus when it comes out.
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Did you try calling Moto? It would be one thing if the phone has been in the market for say 16 months and then the 1 year warranty period would come into question, but in this case the phone hasn't been out for more 3 months so it should be covered. I could see where they would require a receipt to make sure it was purchased from an authorized reseller vs. a grey market seller, but it's worth a shot to give them a call.
Any chance you can get in touch with the person that sold you the phone?

Same thing happened to me...
Was tethering my bionic to PC for web access when it died. It was really hot so I thought it was some sort of safety measure to keep the processor from frying and I tried all of the stuff lots of you proposed in addition to letting my phone lie on a heat sink to relieve some of that heat.
I know you mentioned that you took it to a store and tried all sorts of chargers, but did you try leaving it plugged in to a wall/car charger for a while? That's what did it for me after leaving the batteries out of the unit overnight (I don't think that part is necessary... I was just fed up messing with it and went to sleep hoping it would be magically fixed by some house gnomes) - after plugging the batteries back in that morning and having it still not work, I switch to a car charger (which is rated 1a - higher than the included 850ma charger) and on in the middle of a trip to the Verizon store it simply turned on displaying 5% power on battery.
Odd thing is, before it was tethered the last night, it was at 100% power. So either somehow phone got shorted and drained the battery really fast, or the bionic simply eats so much power with that LTE that even when being supplied power from the PC, it still drains the battery. And from reading some of the other stuff online after googling "white light droid on," it seems that white light indicator is some sort of charge indicator and that the OS won't show if the battery is less than 5%.

hanafubuku said:
Was tethering my bionic to PC for web access when it died. It was really hot so I thought it was some sort of safety measure to keep the processor from frying and I tried all of the stuff lots of you proposed in addition to letting my phone lie on a heat sink to relieve some of that heat.
I know you mentioned that you took it to a store and tried all sorts of chargers, but did you try leaving it plugged in to a wall/car charger for a while? That's what did it for me after leaving the batteries out of the unit overnight (I don't think that part is necessary... I was just fed up messing with it and went to sleep hoping it would be magically fixed by some house gnomes) - after plugging the batteries back in that morning and having it still not work, I switch to a car charger (which is rated 1a - higher than the included 850ma charger) and on in the middle of a trip to the Verizon store it simply turned on displaying 5% power on battery.
Odd thing is, before it was tethered the last night, it was at 100% power. So either somehow phone got shorted and drained the battery really fast, or the bionic simply eats so much power with that LTE that even when being supplied power from the PC, it still drains the battery. And from reading some of the other stuff online after googling "white light droid on," it seems that white light indicator is some sort of charge indicator and that the OS won't show if the battery is less than 5%.
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Yeah your computer USB port does not provide enough power to compensate for the draw you will get off LTE. Your phone will eat much more juice than you are giving it. Leaving the battery out allows the phone to fully discharge any built up charges (ever had this with a laptop? Looks like a bad motherboard but you pull out the battery ans hold the power button down to drain the capacitors and then reinstall the battery and instant boot.) Same thing happening here would be my guess.
Leave the battery out overnight or hold the power button down for about 30 seconds. Put the battery back in and let it charge for awhile. Profit?
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[Q] Battery icon with a ?

When I try to boot my touchpad I get a battery icon with a ? In the middle. What does it mean and how can I fix it? I googled it and all I saw was people saying they had to send it to HP.
I finally had this device running perfect on CN and loaded 10gigs of ebooks on it less than a week ago. I guess if I have to webos doctor I will but it won't go into download mode. Also if I have to send it to HP will they refuse it because it is modded?
Thanks in advance!
- Sent from my OG Epic 4G runnin fine on CM9 -
EDIT: It appears I didn't search long and hard. Looks like I'll get to experience how challenging the RMA process is for HP.
If anyone else experiences this I found this thread to be most helpful: http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/310969-battery-icon-w-question-mark-researching.html

I'm in the same situatuon . I bought a new battery to replace what I thought was a bad battery. I put the new battery in and booted to the same battery with question mark symbol.
Desperate to fix my touch pad. Now since I've opened it I can't send it in for repairs. I'd like to fix it myself but can't find any spare parts. I'm thinking it might be the charging board.
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I have read that this happens if you let your battery die while in Android. Actually dont know if it happens in webOS too. I guess it fails to recognize the battery after completely draining. I read someone getting it back to normal by removing the battery and charging it externally, however that is accomplished. Did both of you have your TouchPad run out of battery?

Yes mine did unfortunately run out of battery while running android. I have tried charging the battery externally. I even bought a new battery for it. Both were charged as they powered up and displayed this battery with the ? symbol. So it's not the battery.

i got the battery with ? mark all the time when i forgot to charge and it drained turned itself off, simply let it charge(do not unplug) and it should auto boot into cm9 or webos(this usually take half hour or so). if that doesn't work, read post #31 to get it work. good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1381564&page=4

chris8599 said:
i got the battery with ? mark all the time when i forgot to charge and it drained turned itself off, simply let it charge(do not unplug) and it should auto boot into cm9 or webos(this usually take half hour or so). if that doesn't work, read post #31 to get it work. good luck.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1381564&page=4
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Did you get the battery with the ? mark? Or the low battery symbol. I have gotten the low battery before and just charging would solve that. I have left the Touchpad on the charger for days at a time with no luck. I have tried every available charger besides the touchstone. I know it's not going to just charge eventually. I have already taken it apart multiple times and replaced the battery and/or manually charged the battery. When the battery is re-installed it boots up to the same battery with ?. When I charge the battery to close to full manually the battery / ? icon stays on for hours then starts a boot loop sequence with the same logo.

i must have gotten the low battery symbol and thought it's the ? symbol. Have you tried "Press and hold power button(while still holding power button) keep press center button for 15 times?" to see if you could brought back the low battery symbol.

chris8599 said:
i must have gotten the low battery symbol and thought it's the ? symbol. Have you tried "Press and hold power button(while still holding power button) keep press center button for 15 times?" to see if you could brought back the low battery symbol.
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Yes, it does not work in this mode. There was another thread where a guy had two HP Touchpad's and confirmed it did not work in this mode. He was doing it correctly on the working touchpad but did nothing to the stuck Touchpad. I have tried it with no luck.
I'm stuck, I don't know where the problem is if it's not the battery. I'm out $35 for the new battery and still don't have a working Touchpad.
The thread in the original post has a guy willing to experiment with JTAG to repair. I'd be willing to send mine to him if he does find a solution.

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Yes, it does not work in this mode. There was another thread where a guy had two HP Touchpad's and confirmed it did not work in this mode. He was doing it correctly on the working touchpad but did nothing to the stuck Touchpad. I have tried it with no luck.
I'm stuck, I don't know where the problem is if it's not the battery. I'm out $35 for the new battery and still don't have a working Touchpad.
The thread in the original post has a guy willing to experiment with JTAG to repair. I'd be willing to send mine to him if he does find a solution.
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have you tried to put back your original battery and try the Hold power then press Home key for over 15 times method?. what about disconnect the battery and see if it would even turn on at all?.

that's me
Hey kklown, I'm the guy from that thread, just started searching around once more to make sure nobody's figured something else out, and sure enough nobody's been bullheaded enough to plow through it yet.
I still want to invest into a JTAG box of some sort to recover my touchpad, and a hard bricked Evo 4g I still have. I will look you up when I get one (should be within the next few months) to keep you posted with progress. At the very least, it would be nice to know whether or not it's doable.
Anyway, if anyone knows anything we don't, be sure to speak up on this thread or the one I started at webosnation.

I'm thinking about getting a Li-Po charger just to keep trying to charge the batteries and hope that it will eventually work. I have 2 batteries now so it wouldn't hurt to charge one and plug one in for testing.
If you do get the JTAG to work I'd be willing to ship mine to you and pay you for your work.

Well, for me, I could leave it plugged into the wall charger that came with the touchpads, and it was definitely charging. I tested this by propping the touchpad's power and home(center) button so they were pressed, and left it for a few days (rebooting consistently when I left it). When I came back, absolutely no response from it, put it on wall charger. After a few minutes I unplugged it and rebooted by holding pwr+home, and it only had enough juice to show the battery question mark for one second before turning off the screen.
FWIW.
I'm waiting for my barely used Droid Razr to sell, and when it does the money from that will go to a JTAG box. Anyone want a mint Razr for ~275? haha.

I wonder if this has something to do with not charging the battery to 100% on first use. Was that the case with of you? Just a thought.

I've got the cash finally, going to make sure I have the right JTAG box before I purchase. Will update when I get it.

Awesome to hear. Hopefully this will be the answer to our problems. Please keep us updated on the progress and procedure.

For sure! Ordered a Riff Box tonight from Hong Kong via eBay, should be here around 5/11-16... should be fun to mess with.

HP replaced my touchpad, their tech support sucks I had to give my credit card info to someone overseas and even tho it wasn't charged I had to do it to send it in. After an hour or so arguing with the dude I gave him my number and he then submitted the ticket. They sent me a box and pre-paid next day air label and the whole process took a week or so before I received my replacement.
The issue I had (Battery Symbol with ?) Occurs when you let the battery drain to 0 while booted in Android, doesn't matter what ROM you're on so don't cuss out our great devs.
The (Preventative)Solution: Use an app like "Tasker" to shut down your device at 5%.
I actually haven't accomplished this tho... Tasker confused me lol. I doubt every ROM dev is gonna include this "power off at 5%" "feature" because everyone wants to sip every last % of their battery. Maybe a flashable mod could be made or something but that is beyond me since I couldn't even figure out Tasker.
If you CAN'T send it in to HP for replacement then the jig stuff you guys are talking about is probably your only hope.
- Sent from my OG Epic 4G runnin fine on CM9 -

I went and bought some JTAG equipment, and I'm ready to dive in.
Does anyone know what my target is to read from good touchpad / write to bad touchpad, or perhaps willing to share bin files,etc they may have access to?
Ready and willing...make me able! : D

Well I tried manually charging my batteries again.... I don't have a Li-Po charger so don't know if that would fix things. It does charge the battery I am powered up again but still have the battery with ?.
I figured out that the gold button on the mother board is a shut off switch. If you hold it for a few seconds the device will shut off. Sometimes it will also turn the device on but so far it's been very unpredictable.
I'm going on vacation and really wish I was able to fix this thing so I could watch some movies on my almost 6 hour flight. Guess I'll have to resort to my Motorola Atrix with LapDock.

Good info about the gold button! I went and re-read some of a thread on webosnation about where the touchpad expects the battery firmware to be. Totally forgot that it was on the integrated flash storage... so if that's the issue, getting the file on there is the easy part, IF I can figure out a way to interface with the integrated storage.
That's the next piece to figure out anyway. Don't think the JTAG box will be used for that, but who knows, haven't found much info for reading/writing from embedded storage directly. I'm hoping that with the right pinout and maybe extra parts, I can use it as a usb drive or something.
Will come back with info soon.

Battery Death

Hello,
Well, My XT1069 just died last night, 01/22/2016, it's simply dead. no display, no charging, no led blink, nothing.
I was watching stream on twitch.tv, And then he fell asleep, the phone continued to operate the rest of the night and discharged to zero percent.
It is known that state when the battery dies, and is at zero percent, unable to load. this has happened to me 2 or 3 times .. and after some minutes charging, and some secs holding power button, it came back to life..
but this time does not happen anything.
believe me, I have researched a lot in various forums, I've tried holding the power button, voldown, hold on for 18sec, 2min and 5min up, nothing works.
I saw on some pages to leave the device in the charger for 24 hours could perhaps resurrects it. it is in the charger since 01/23/2016 6 am, with a few breaks when I retire and try something new. only a matter of minutes
in short: my phone died, no sign of life.
I would please ask if anyone here had this critical case like mine, and also ask if anyone has any tips I can test to try to bring my cell phone back to life. Thank you very much in advance.
I apologize for the English, I am Brazilian. most of it is google translator

Anyone?
Cell still on charger, but probably nothing is going to happen :/

1)Try flashing twrp after that wipe your phone through twrp and then repair system files and reboot.
This will only work if your battery's not dead.
2) about installing twrp search on xda for your device download it , connect the datacable with your computer and then press power+volume up go in download mode flash the recovery through odin
Or if you dont have root try this
http://nexusandme.com/how-to-install-twrp-recovery-without-root/
Sent from my SM-T231

JKaique2501 said:
Hello,
Well, My XT1069 just died last night, 01/22/2016, it's simply dead. no display, no charging, no led blink, nothing.
I was watching stream on twitch.tv, And then he fell asleep, the phone continued to operate the rest of the night and discharged to zero percent.
It is known that state when the battery dies, and is at zero percent, unable to load. this has happened to me 2 or 3 times .. and after some minutes charging, and some secs holding power button, it came back to life..
but this time does not happen anything.
believe me, I have researched a lot in various forums, I've tried holding the power button, voldown, hold on for 18sec, 2min and 5min up, nothing works.
I saw on some pages to leave the device in the charger for 24 hours could perhaps resurrects it. it is in the charger since 01/23/2016 6 am, with a few breaks when I retire and try something new. only a matter of minutes
in short: my phone died, no sign of life.
I would please ask if anyone here had this critical case like mine, and also ask if anyone has any tips I can test to try to bring my cell phone back to life. Thank you very much in advance.
I apologize for the English, I am Brazilian. most of it is google translator
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As far as i'm concerned it needs a spark(i dont know the exact word for it). it happens when the battery goes completely into discharged state with no spark left in it. It kind of means when your battery is left with no electrons to pass on the current to the battery. so go reach some mobile repairing shop and as them to spark your battery. they have some kind of rod or something with with they will spark the battery and then charge it with a high output. then see if it works or not. if not then your battery is probably dead and you need it to be replaced. its easier for usual phones. but since your's a MOTO G. it has a un-removable back cover. so it'll cost you a bit. hope it helps. :victory:
do thank if it worked out for you.
WonDerKiDo said:
1)Try flashing twrp after that wipe your phone through twrp and then repair system files and reboot.
This will only work if your battery's not dead.
2) about installing twrp search on xda for your device download it , connect the datacable with your computer and then press power+volume up go in download mode flash the recovery through odin
Or if you dont have root try this
http://nexusandme.com/how-to-install-twrp-recovery-without-root/
Sent from my SM-T231
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bro his phone is completely out. with no charge. how are you supposed to install a custom recovery with or without odin. its a battery issue.

sanjumalik720 said:
As far as i'm concerned it needs a spark(i dont know the exact word for it). it happens when the battery goes completely into discharged state with no spark left in it. It kind of means when your battery is left with no electrons to pass on the current to the battery. so go reach some mobile repairing shop and as them to spark your battery. they have some kind of rod or something with with they will spark the battery and then charge it with a high output. then see if it works or not. if not then your battery is probably dead and you need it to be replaced. its easier for usual phones. but since your's a MOTO G. it has a un-removable back cover. so it'll cost you a bit. hope it helps. :victory:
do thank if it worked out for you.
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Thank you very much for the answer.
I've seen elsewhere people talking about that this spark, and in this case, some talked about trying to use a charger Apple Ipad 2.1 Amps, My original motoG charger is only 0.85 amps, so I think maybe an Apple is a good attempt to bring him back .. However, I do not know anyone who has one
At this time, I will have to wait until day 02/11/2016 until I can go into a technical assistance ..
Anyway, enormously grateful to you for the answer

JKaique2501 said:
Thank you very much for the answer.
I've seen elsewhere people talking about that this spark, and in this case, some talked about trying to use a charger Apple Ipad 2.1 Amps, My original motoG charger is only 0.85 amps, so I think maybe an Apple is a good attempt to bring him back .. However, I do not know anyone who has one
At this time, I will have to wait until day 02/11/2016 until I can go into a technical assistance ..
Anyway, enormously grateful to you for the answer
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Happy to help. ???? it does the same thing. The apple 2.1 amps may get your battery that spark. But since that spark thing gives your battery a charge of over 2.5 amps i guess. But the charger may help you as well.
And good luck with the battery. :fingers-crossed:

[Q] Dead phone, with a twist

This One M7 had been my spare for close to a year. I replaced the screen, camera, and back cover to make it whole again, and everything worked great for a couple months. Unfortunately, it completely died one day while I was using it and the device has shown no signs of life since... until now.
Actually, it still doesn't really show any signs of life. No amount of button holding has been able to elicit any response whatsoever. No charging indicator light either. I've tried leaving it sitting for several months, but this too has not changed anything. I finally opened it up today to check on the battery connection and reseated it. Still nothing.
The one and only response that I do get is recognition on my computer when plugging it in, where it shows up as an "MTP USB Device." Nothing shows up in Windows Explorer though except an empty CD drive.
Any ideas?

Bill720 said:
This One M7 had been my spare for close to a year. I replaced the screen, camera, and back cover to make it whole again, and everything worked great for a couple months. Unfortunately, it completely died one day while I was using it and the device has shown no signs of life since... until now.
Actually, it still doesn't really show any signs of life. No amount of button holding has been able to elicit any response whatsoever. No charging indicator light either. I've tried leaving it sitting for several months, but this too has not changed anything. I finally opened it up today to check on the battery connection and reseated it. Still nothing.
The one and only response that I do get is recognition on my computer when plugging it in, where it shows up as an "MTP USB Device." Nothing shows up in Windows Explorer though except an empty CD drive.
Any ideas?
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you bricked it, maybe flashing RUU can help. if it will not help you can then use JTAG, it can help to flash firmware on dead boards. you can find JTAG on eBay.

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itwasmistake said:
you bricked it, maybe flashing RUU can help. if it will not help you can then use JTAG, it can help to flash firmware on dead boards. you can find JTAG on eBay.
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How could I have "bricked" it without flashing anything? The device literally died while I was using it.

Bill720 said:
How could I have "bricked" it without flashing anything? The device literally died while I was using it.
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Do you have multimeter to check voltage on battery? it could be battery problem, or maybe connector on motherboard is damaged? check for scratches on board (on traces).

It shall be tried
itwasmistake said:
Do you have multimeter to check voltage on battery? it could be battery problem, or maybe connector on motherboard is damaged? check for scratches on board (on traces).
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I'll try to measure the battery voltage this weekend. Aren't the pins a little small to test with standard multimeter leads though?

0volt multimeter test
I finally got around to trying to measure the voltage of the current battery with a standard multimeter. I got absolutely nothing, which means that I'm either measuring it wrong, the leads are not sharp enough, or the battery is dead. Has anyone else ever had any luck testing this battery with a multimeter?

Going for it!
I tested another, similar, battery by multimeter successfully, so I suspect that it might just be a case of bad battery (at least). With that and the fact that I had a Galaxy Note 2 battery fail earlier in the year, I'm going to jump in and buy new batteries.
Rather than just trying to go cold turkey and install the replacement, I'll test it with the multimeter and then hook it up pre-install. If the phone powers up, then (and only then) will I go through the massive hassle of replacing it. We'll know one way or another next week when it comes in.

Humongous Tinfoil Catamaran!
Just to follow up, I did end up buying that battery. Definitely not "new," but as long as it's in decent shape, it should do the job. While the multimeter test revealed practically nothing, (same as before) the phone did spring to life with the charging indicator as soon as I plugged it in to power. With that, I've charged it up and will be fully testing the phone next weekend. If everything checks out, I'll start the long & annoying process of replacing the battery and hopefully have a fully-working One once again.
Here's to Change!

FIXED!
Just to provide some closure, I can say that the battery replacement was a success! The vibration motor is totally dead (despite being plugged in adequately and not seized) and the casing took a beating from the repeated re-entry attempts, but the phone is now working once again. I suppose I could buy another replacement back cover to really finish the job, but will probably just leave it as-is for right now.