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I just rejected a "recertified" replacement Droid3 due to it having what appears to be a bad screen.
I have multiple batteries/back covers, so I was able to place the replacement unit side-by-side with the original one.
The "PenTile grain" on the replacement's screen is quite notable compared to the original. The graininess appears to be at what I'll call the "edge of perception", i.e., one second you can discern it, the next you can't. And at least for me, this is much worse than having it be constant. On my original phone I can see the "hashed/grainy" appearance of solid colors (e.g. battery indicator) and small fonts, but it is fairly tolerable. On the replacement, it was obnoxious by comparison.
The screen on the original has a brighter white/bluish hue, while the screen on the replacement is duller and browner. This was evident on all screen brightness settings available from the "Power Control" widget.
I'll be sticking with old phone at least until the update is made generally available in the hope that all of my issues with my original Droid3 may well be in the software.
I don't know if this a widespread or one-off issue, as my sample size is two phones. But if you happen to have an extraordinary dislike for your Droid3's display and can't understand why most others are okay with it, I'd recommend heading over to a Verizon store and comparing it to as many others as possible.
I tried taking pictures of the issue, but my available cameras lacked the fidelty to show the issue.
I noticed the same thing with my most recent replacement. Though I did keep it. The blueish screen looked to be worse than the brown/red one in my opinion. On another replacement the screen would almost flip it's image on the top quarter of the screen, it was quite distorted and would go away when something would redraw, very annoying.
Same story here, kept it anyways. Screen isn't that bothersome.
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I have to admit, I LOVE THE SCREEN, I really hated the Droid 2 (Milestone 2) screen, it was too yellowish, had to much space between display and glass, and it was too sharp. YES, too sharp, for me. I love the fact that the new pentile screen is notable as what it is, a SCREEN. Its easy to read outside. Compared to other screens it's extremely bright (white) and even little fonts in the Browser can be read without any problems. I love the little motion-blur effect and the screen matrix, especially when playing games it feels like a console like the psp, with my Droid 2 it didn't feel like that.
Hi
i have two Samsung galaxy s i9000
One screen looks a bit dull and slightly pink and the other looks really clear.
The dull one is old.
Both have been flashed with the same Rom and are both set us the same
They should be all the same. Are both phones the same origin-carrier?
Sounds like a problem with the pinkish one. Is your kernel voodoo color enabled ?
(But if the phone is old, it may be that the screen is getting, well, used.)
we sell phones, we have brand new and second hand units, regarding the lcd... sometimes if we change lcd screen theres a different resolution between the china-made lcd which is cheaper than the original lcd we sell. did you.change the kcd before? is it second hand unit
Neither phone has had a screen replaced. I've had both from new.
The pink on is 14 months old and the other is two months old.
Only noticed the old one looks poor when i got the new one.
Ill try take a pic.
Will have to use each phone to do it no camera.
A video of quadrant would really show you. Ill see if i can use my mates phone later
Im sure i read somewhere ages ago that the screen can get burnt like with the really old big back monitors do you think it could be that.
There are no marks like battery or the signal bars like you would expect.
Its like someone messed with the colour and contrast or something
they are both amoled screens, right?
usually it shoult last longer than one year, but amoled has a really short lifetime, compaired to all anorganic screens (e. g. LCD)
expecially the blue subpixels (physicaly more energetic than read light) gets weard out a lot faster
and organic screens get weard faster if they get hot or warmer than they should (cooling the screen extends lifetime (in a bag <-> close to the body)
but this are just some background informations, i cant really imagine that a amoled screen is used up in around a year
try to flash a new and a same ROM
then tell us
this may reset all reselutıon parameter on both of them
Maybe the new one is Galaxy SL. Samsung stopped production on i9000 and started making i9003 with super clear LCD displays. Maybe the new one is that.
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But amoled has better quality than sc-lcd
But Super amoled screen display a pinkish white when viewed from the side. This was eleminated when Samsung put sclcd displays. So, the old one may be amoled and new one sclcd
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archdroid said:
But amoled has better quality than sc-lcd
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AMOLED has better black and bright colors, but it's less clear and has problems with some colors. Mine, for example, has problems with gray: it looks terrible and it turns to red on lower brightness. AMOLEDs are also very different, one producted batch of screens can be pinkish, other one - blueish, third one - yellowish.
Unrealwolf said:
AMOLED has better black and bright colors, but it's less clear and has problems with some colors. Mine, for example, has problems with gray: it looks terrible and it turns to red on lower brightness. AMOLEDs are also very different, one producted batch of screens can be pinkish, other one - blueish, third one - yellowish.
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Thats right, middle brightness is not so clear.
which one has best battery?
the reviews have confused me which one has best battery...
Screen 720P compact is good?
1. http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony...us-to-the-era-of-two-day-battery-life_id60955
2. Even tiny font sizes are very well readable on this screen. I was impressed :good:
720p on a 4.6" screen is very sharp and you will never see the difference with 1080p during normal use (as in, not holding the phone an inch away from your face)
degraaff said:
720p on a 4.6" screen is very sharp and you will never see the difference with 1080p during normal use (as in, not holding the phone an inch away from your face)
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Agreed, the Z3C screen is pin-sharp as it is, you'd need a magnifying glass to see any flaws.
On the other hand, color calibration is way off (and can't be properly corrected with Sony's 'fake' white balance tool) and this may bother some people a lot. Personally I've got used to it now, and am happy if this is the main trade-off for better battery life and daylight visibility, as that's more important to me in a phone vs a tablet.
good, i'm happy to hear 720p on Z3c is good
Hello there,
I bought my z3c off amazon, noticed after a while the screen got quite pinky when at lowest brightness.
So i got a replacement. Just before I send back the pinky one, here is a comparison between both screen (left : pink & old phone, right : yellower new one). The picture was taken at custom 5000K with a nikon reflex, then color balanced to 6500K in lightroom.
not sure what to think about this pretty big white balance difference between only 2 random devices.
Any insight is welcome.
Cheers.
Do you have any of the color enhancement options enabled (X-Reality or Vivid)?
I have both turned off and find the phone's white balance is actually better than most people seem to be experiencing.
I do notice that some Z3 Compact displays look different. For example, the ones displayed at a Sony Kiosk here look different (more bluish) than mine.
I think that Z3 Compact is not the best screen I've seen. I've just sold a Galaxy S5 and it was a better screen.
What I see in my Z3c is that the screen is not very uniform, specially in low bright modes.
Despite all, the screen is good. I hope that Z4c would be a bit better.
Tried with xreality things on and off. doesn't change a thing.
Oh and the replacement device i got from amazon, it has lightbleed this time
Seriously, poor quality control from Sony. sending them both back. tired of this $h1t :/
Hi All,
I am about to take delivery (Tomorrow) of an imported 8GB/256GB Sim free Mate 20 Pro twilight in the UK.
Is there anything I should be wary of?
I am normally (dare I say it) an Apple fan boy ... There I said it! (Current phone iPhone X)
I have gone for this option for 3 reasons.
1. The added ram and storage space over the 6GB/128GB model.
2. It will good to have the dual SIM functionality, I normally carry around an iPhone X (Personal phone) and an iPhone 6 (Work phone), I would like to do away with 2 phones and just use the one.
3. The camera setup seems fantastic, I do a lot of photography both privately and while at work.
I see a lot of complaints about green bleeding on the screen, is this still a problem on the 8GB/256GB model? If so, what can I check for once it is delivered, ideally for a fast return of it if need be.
I have ordered from an eBay seller who advertises that the packaging is opened and a UK charger is supplied and that the 1 year warranty is with them. They have openly admitted that they are imported from Hongkong and Singapore.
I cannot find another UK seller selling this particular model, the only one selling with the dual sim function is only the 6GB/128GB version on Three with a 24 month contract, which I am not interested in.
Thanks all.
jamesworts said:
Hi All,
I am about to take delivery (Tomorrow) of an imported 8GB/256GB Sim free Mate 20 Pro twilight in the UK.
Is there anything I should be wary of?
I am normally (dare I say it) an Apple fan boy ... There I said it! (Current phone iPhone X)
I have gone for this option for 3 reasons.
1. The added ram and storage space over the 6GB/128GB model.
2. It will good to have the dual SIM functionality, I normally carry around an iPhone X (Personal phone) and an iPhone 6 (Work phone), I would like to do away with 2 phones and just use the one.
3. The camera setup seems fantastic, I do a lot of photography both privately and while at work.
I see a lot of complaints about green bleeding on the screen, is this still a problem on the 8GB/256GB model? If so, what can I check for once it is delivered, ideally for a fast return of it if need be.
I have ordered from an eBay seller who advertises that the packaging is opened and a UK charger is supplied and that the 1 year warranty is with them. They have openly admitted that they are imported from Hongkong and Singapore.
I cannot find another UK seller selling this particular model, the only one selling with the dual sim function is only the 6GB/128GB version on Three with a 24 month contract, which I am not interested in.
Thanks all.
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You can download Device Info HW from the play store to see what type of screen you have. BOE vs LG. LG are much more common to hvae the green screen issue develop, but it's not exclusive. And not all LG screen are bad. You can also check the serial number. In the middle will be an 18, letter and another 2 digit number. This stands for 2018, then a - october or b november and the 2 digit date of manufacture. Later dates seem to have a better chance of no defect.
Then download Mate 20 Pro screen tester also from the play store. I think it's just named screen tester. You can then lower the brightness level and go to a dim area. This will show any defect if it exists. Also using performance mode, and using the provided fast charger seemed to develop the problem, or it may have just been a coincidence. I can't say for sure. Good luck! hope you get a good one.
Thanks for the info,
I hope a get a good one too! It's going to be a hard transition from iOS to Huawei, I used to detest this brand in its early days, but WOW!! they have come so far, I am very impressed.
Slightly off topic, is there an easy way to move all my iCloud stored photos and videos etc across to the Huawei?
Does the twilight model have more chance of green screen??
I hope not!
Just turned new phone on.
Serial number has 18B23
Resolution 2340x1080
Touchscreen says synaptics-LAYA171300-BOE-02-18-00-53
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Just turned new phone on.
Serial number has 18B23
Resolution 2340x1080
Touchscreen says synaptics-LAYA171300-BOE-02-18-00-53
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You should have a good one. Everything indicates you have a good production date and BOE screen.
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You should have a good one. Everything indicates you have a good production date and BOE screen.
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Still going strong! :good:
I have a 128GB UK version I purchased at launch with an LG display and planned to upgrade to a 256GB international model with a BOE display. I ended up returning the 256GB version because to me the LG display seemed way superior.
At least some of the hysteria generated on XDA about the defective LG displays was nonsense.
It is normal for a folded OLED display to have screen bleed at the edges and it is also normal for a folded OLED display to show lighter around the edges when doing the screen uniformity test that purportedly showed that the displays were defective.
People were making comparisons between the standard OLED displays on Samsung phones and the folded OLED display on the M20P and since the results were different that was supposed to prove the LG displays were defective.
On top of that easily 70% of the initial reports of defective screens on the XDA Gluegate threads came from new XDA accounts that appear to have been opened specifically to report defective displays.
The BOE displays are much less bright than the LG displays at every illumination level including 1 which is why people don't see the scary light bleed eminating from the display edges.
That difference is very obvious if you compare both displays side by side.
The LG display also has much more vibrant colors and way better contrast.
Hi,
Thanks but I totally disagree regarding the screen quality.
After mine arrived I went into a Three shop who let me play around with a 6gb/128gb and side by side my BOE screen vs the LG screen was better. Also the brightness levels are either the same or if anything the BOE screen was slightly brighter.
The only bleed I can see on mine is 2 vertical lines right on the bend and this moves depending how I look at it, indicating that as you rightly say, it isn't screen bleed. The phones with screen bleed (Including the one in the store) was very very obvious and filled nearly the whole screen. Staff claim it is to do with the lights on the shop, but clearly that isn't the case.
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Just turned new phone on.
Serial number has 18B23
Resolution 2340x1080
Touchscreen says synaptics-LAYA171300-BOE-02-18-00-53
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Wow I just got mines today with the same exact date and perfect BOE screen!
jhs39 said:
I have a 128GB UK version I purchased at launch with an LG display and planned to upgrade to a 256GB international model with a BOE display. I ended up returning the 256GB version because to me the LG display seemed way superior.
At least some of the hysteria generated on XDA about the defective LG displays was nonsense.
It is normal for a folded OLED display to have screen bleed at the edges and it is also normal for a folded OLED display to show lighter around the edges when doing the screen uniformity test that purportedly showed that the displays were defective.
People were making comparisons between the standard OLED displays on Samsung phones and the folded OLED display on the M20P and since the results were different that was supposed to prove the LG displays were defective.
On top of that easily 70% of the initial reports of defective screens on the XDA Gluegate threads came from new XDA accounts that appear to have been opened specifically to report defective displays.
The BOE displays are much less bright than the LG displays at every illumination level including 1 which is why people don't see the scary light bleed eminating from the display edges.
That difference is very obvious if you compare both displays side by side.
The LG display also has much more vibrant colors and way better contrast.
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You're in the minority. I had the LG and the screen was awful Truly awful. Green which is visible on all LG screens to some degree ruined the screen even at 50% brightness.
This is just your attempt at feeling better for having an LG screen.
My BOE is perfect and better quality in every way than my 6 previous LG replacements, which all had the "green bleed" not "off angle discolouration". Don't try to make out we are all confused, it's you who's confused and spreading nonsense.
Huawei confirmed to EE that the LG screens are defective which is why EE replaced mine 7 times until I got a BOE
BOE is just as bright. Just as much contrast. Just as sharp. Not faulty.
This account has been open a long time.
Next try?
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You're in the minority. I had the LG and the screen was awful Truly awful. Green which is visible on all LG screens to some degree ruined the screen even at 50% brightness.
This is just your attempt at feeling better for having an LG screen.
My BOE is perfect and better quality in every way than my 6 previous LG replacements, which all had the "green bleed" not "off angle discolouration". Don't try to make out we are all confused, it's you who's confused and spreading nonsense.
Huawei confirmed to EE that the LG screens are defective which is why EE replaced mine 7 times until I got a BOE
BOE is just as bright. Just as much contrast. Just as sharp. Not faulty.
This account has been open a long time.
Next try?
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My BOE replacement is pretty good also. Brightness and clarity is great. No dead pixels and no uniformity issues even with screen tester apps.
The LG screen was defective that I had. And many others have had. Not all LG screen in phones are defective, just the implementation in the mate 20 pro's for many people.
I think the edge bleeding is not necessarily normal, but rather a function of an inferior polarizer. The same reason LG and BOE are slightly more off tint when viewed from an angle. That same angle is produced by sending the screen. I still believe Samsung makes the best screens.
I also noticed that the BOE screen has some GHOSTING. If you have a BLACK background and scroll up/down with white text or windows. The white will momentarily be grey/purple lagged until the pixels catch up. But isn't something that will show up with a grey background, I think this is because the on/off function of the pixels is slower than other transitions. NOT a defect, just an observation. Haven't tested on a Samsung or LG screen. Just noticed while evaluating the BOE.
*Edit* seems it's black/grey that shows it.
Just found with a quick search, one that shows the purple lag.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GalaxyS6/comments/34t923/is_your_screen_defective_test_for_yourself_by/
Just scroll.
*Edit #2* just tested on my wife's Note 9 and there is just a hairline lag of purple that resolves quicker. Instead of half the grey square.
*Edit #3* just created another thread to discuss the ghosting separately.
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Green which is visible on all LG screens to some degree ruined the screen even at 50% brightness.
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This is an inaccurate statement, not all LG screens are affected.
My M20P was preordered before the October launch from O2 UK (so presumably a relatively early model) and I have no issues with any visible green at all at any brightness setting.
As reported by Device Info HW: synaptics-LYA171020-LG-01-18-10-3
Jonathan-H said:
You're in the minority. I had the LG and the screen was awful Truly awful. Green which is visible on all LG screens to some degree ruined the screen even at 50% brightness.
This is just your attempt at feeling better for having an LG screen.
My BOE is perfect and better quality in every way than my 6 previous LG replacements, which all had the "green bleed" not "off angle discolouration". Don't try to make out we are all confused, it's you who's confused and spreading nonsense.
Huawei confirmed to EE that the LG screens are defective which is why EE replaced mine 7 times until I got a BOE
BOE is just as bright. Just as much contrast. Just as sharp. Not faulty.
This account has been open a long time.
Next try?
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"green which is visible on all LG screens to some degree". Nope, not visible at all on mine, which has an LG screen. I've seen examples of the green issue, and mine is uniform black across the screen.
Have a friend who had a BOE screen on his from EE, and the two screens are unnervingly similar. Nobody would look at images on both and state that one is better than the other.
So care to try again?
(Why is the account time relevant?)