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Using Diamond in the US

Hello,
I have been really interested in buying this phone for quite a while now. But with it being Triband and not supporting any 3G in the US (which I only really use for internet sharing), I am still wondering if I should spend the money and get this phone or another one. My main question is, even without 3G support, I should still be able to get Voice and EDGE coverage correct? I currently have a Cavalier (S630) which I can use for Internet Sharing only if need be. I still cant see why its not Quadband =( and oh yes, I am on AT&T.
Any help on this topic would be great. Thanks =)

Man why waste 600+ dollars for half a phone. you have waited this long just wait for the us version. Trust me. You have no idea how slow edge is. I used to live in 3G/HSPDA terriroty and now i dont. I havent used my kaiser for web surfing in a while becasue its painfully slow. Save the dough

myv6mustang said:
Man why waste 600+ dollars for half a phone. you have waited this long just wait for the us version. Trust me. You have no idea how slow edge is. I used to live in 3G/HSPDA terriroty and now i dont. I havent used my kaiser for web surfing in a while becasue its painfully slow. Save the dough
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I know how slow EDGE is, it sucks lol. The thing is I know how HTC likes to delay their phones all the time, and I really haven't seen a solid release for the US. I have seen Q2, but since they delay their phones so much you can never tell.

Edge won't work in part's of America either. The Diamond that is out currently is tri-band GSM and doesn't have the 850 mhz which is what at least part of America works on. It's possible, depending on where you live, that even the edge won't work for you.
You really need to wait for the American version to come out.
See this link for the bands.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_diamond-2368.php

alaiwy said:
Edge won't work in part's of America either. The Diamond that is out currently is tri-band GSM and doesn't have the 850 mhz which is what at least part of America works on. It's possible, depending on where you live, that even the edge won't work for you.
You really need to wait for the American version to come out.
See this link for the bands.
http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_touch_diamond-2368.php
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The specs on this site state that is has 850mhz band which is not correct. According to the detailed specs thread on the Diamond fourm it says the phone has a GSM band 1900. I went to www.gsmworld.com to look at the network for AT&T (1900mhz band only) and it covers the major cities and surrounding areas (almost exact same coverage map as 850mhz band) unless your in the friggin mountains.

Edge, but no 3G in Tennessee At&t

Hello all-
I just got in my Diamond today and after working on it about an hour, I still can only get Edge (and very small reception and SSLLOOWW data). I currently have a tilt with a flashed ROM running 6.1 and got perfect 3G reception from it here at my desk. I use At&t here. Could the lack of the 850 band be my issue. Please give me some clues or point me to a tutorial to get everything set up to par for my Diamond. I've already searched this whole forum.
Thanks a lot!

Oh dear here we go again....if you had done a search you would have saved yourself so much hassle.
The Diamond you have wont support 3G on AT&T because its missing a £G attenna...even though your settings will show that it can support the band for AT&T 3G but in reality you CANNOT get 3G access with the Diamonds that are out at the moment.
Only way your going to be able to get 3G in America is by waiting for the proper American version of the phone...as to when its out...could be july/August.

Well...Thats the bad part of me that gets way too excited. I'm going to try to return it. I'm sure my fiance that im marrying in 3 weeks will love to hear the news of my lack of research. Thanks!

LOL its ok...its just been explained a few times on here that the Diamonds that are on the market arent really suitable for the American 3G market...your just gonna have to wait a bit for the American version.

For what i's worth - thanks for your time with a stupid question.

bzowk said:
For what i's worth - thanks for your time with a stupid question.
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No problems buddy, its ok...thats what we are here for...to help each other out.
Apologies if i was a bit abrupt in my first post...been a long day

no 3g
for what it is worth, i have the same issue with no 3g but i have edge and so far find it fine for what i need it for. For others, the added speed that you get may be worth it. I love my Diamond otherwise, despite the battery. I will however get the usa version when it comes out, mainly for reception purposes since i feel the lack of 850 band lessens the reception a little... But so far I love it. Btw i have the ME rom which is fast and smooth and have no issues so far other than i cant hide the SIM contacts even with the tweak.

Need Help: network problem - very slow 3g

Everything was working fine I used to reach 12mb on 3g where I live and even more speed on lte 30 - 90mb (another city not where I live).
Now my problem in my city with almost full 3g bars I will not cross 0.35 mb on speed test and the surfing is very slow.
I tried many radios but no change?
Any help is appreciated.
My rom is ARHD 12.2
*I have galaxy note 8.0, I put my sim inside and the speed was great!!

Anyone?
I know it's a strange problem
not anly my phone even we test my friends phones HTC One & Butterfly !!

Power_Getter said:
Everything was working fine I used to reach 12mb on 3g where I live and even more speed on lte 30 - 90mb (another city not where I live).
Now my problem in my city with almost full 3g bars I will not cross 0.35 mb on speed test and the surfing is very slow.
I tried many radios but no change?
Any help is appreciated.
My rom is ARHD 12.2
*I have galaxy note 8.0, I put my sim inside and the speed was great!!
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3G is a very generic term. Do you mean EVDo or HSDPA or HSDPA+ or GSM or what?
When you do the speed test (use ookla) what does it tell you you are using?

sauprankul said:
3G is a very generic term. Do you mean EVDo or HSDPA or HSDPA+ or GSM or what?
When you do the speed test (use ookla) what does it tell you you are using?
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Sorry I mean HSDPA+
I'm using ookla and i can see my provider there.
This happen only in my city.

Power_Getter said:
Sorry I mean HSDPA+
I'm using ookla and i can see my provider there.
This happen only in my city.
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If it only happens in your city, then you should contact your carrier. Maybe your phone is using a different band or something.
But I severely doubt it is the phone's problem if two phones have it and it only happens in your city.

sauprankul said:
If it only happens in your city, then you should contact your carrier. Maybe your phone is using a different band or something.
But I severely doubt it is the phone's problem if two phones have it and it only happens in your city.
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I was trying to find where is the issue, it was working fine previously and got around 12mb. Now, my note reach this speed but not htc phones, this really confusing me.
I did almost everything even trying many rom's but no change.

Forget to mention I got almost 2mb for upload wil the download not going more than .35 mb !!!

See what frequencies the Note and One respectively are capable of on your carrier.
And it's really on H+, huh?
If so, I got nothing.

sauprankul said:
See what frequencies the Note and One respectively are capable of on your carrier.
And it's really on H+, huh?
If so, I got nothing.
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Yes both are running same frequencies, I know it's too complicated.
Thanks for your input.
It looks like all htc phones in my area
I will do one thing next, I will go back to 4.1.2

Power_Getter said:
Yes both are running same frequencies, I know it's too complicated.
Thanks for your input.
It looks like all htc phones in my area
I will do one thing next, I will go back to 4.1.2
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Sorry to bring back this thread, but this issue is really annoying.
I tested more phones from Moto, Asus, and HTC all these phone has this problem except Samsung, LG and iPhone

[Q] Moto X GSM Unlocked T-Mobile works outside the US?

Hi!
I'm planning to buy a customized Moto X unlocked GSM edition but I'm wondering if it'll work outside the US.
At Moto they don't know as "they haven't tried it". And is confusing as it says on their website that is GSM unlocked but comes with a t-mobile sim card, so it's unlocked to work with t-mobile and at&t only or also open to other compatible GSM networks around the world? Has anyone had the chance to try it?

aricris said:
Hi!
I'm planning to buy a customized Moto X unlocked GSM edition but I'm wondering if it'll work outside the US.
At Moto they don't know as "they haven't tried it". And is confusing as it says on their website that is GSM unlocked but comes with a t-mobile sim card, so it's unlocked to work with t-mobile and at&t only or also open to other compatible GSM networks around the world? Has anyone had the chance to try it?
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Most phones shipped these days support most 2g/3g bands to support international roaming features. Say you're going to Europe, i wouldn't count on you getting anywhere near LTE speeds or even 4g speeds because there networks aren't that developed yet, put in simple terms, but there's a good chance that you can still get a supported 2g/3g connection, does that make sense? I would take it with me if i were you, no harm in that right?

moto x in Belgium
I got my T-mobile Moto X shipped to Belgium, it works on the local GSM networks.

joemon871 said:
Most phones shipped these days support most 2g/3g bands to support international roaming features. Say you're going to Europe, i wouldn't count on you getting anywhere near LTE speeds or even 4g speeds because there networks aren't that developed yet, put in simple terms, but there's a good chance that you can still get a supported 2g/3g connection, does that make sense? I would take it with me if i were you, no harm in that right?
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We have 4G in our little East-European country, Romania (probably you never heard of it)

TheSaw said:
We have 4G in our little East-European country, Romania (probably you never heard of it)
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I heard of it What you can do is find out what network bands your cellphone company back in Romania uses and see if your phone supports it. There's a good chance your phone will support one of their bands though

joemon871 said:
I heard of it What you can do is find out what network bands your cellphone company back in Romania uses and see if your phone supports it. There's a good chance your phone will support one of their bands though
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They support it for 2G/3G, but not above. The bands are different for LTE.

TheSaw said:
They support it for 2G/3G, but not above. The bands are different for LTE.
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Yup exactly as i predicted first post but hey good news is at least you'll be able to use the phone. Use WiFi for your internet needs

joemon871 said:
Yup exactly as i predicted first post but hey good news is at least you'll be able to use the phone. Use WiFi for your internet needs
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3G is fast enough. As the 4G network is not fully developed (no full country coverage), and the prices are still high, I don't think it's really worth stressing too much about it. I ordered myself a MotoX from the states with a non-compatible LTE hardware just now. I know that I won't use that technology in a comfortable way anyways for the next 2 years. For my personal needs, 3G+ is more than enough.

TheSaw said:
3G is fast enough. As the 4G network is not fully developed (no full country coverage), and the prices are still high, I don't think it's really worth stressing too much about it. I ordered myself a MotoX from the states with a non-compatible LTE hardware just now. I know that I won't use that technology in a comfortable way anyways for the next 2 years. For my personal needs, 3G+ is more than enough.
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Ya don't worry about it too much because it sounds like you're a casual user, mainly for emails and such I'm guessing? But anyways Lte speeds are really going to take off in the next couple years so you'll be in for a treat when you get back Happy Journey!
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joemon871 said:
Ya don't worry about it too much because it sounds like you're a casual user, mainly for emails and such I'm guessing? But anyways Lte speeds are really going to take off in the next couple years so you'll be in for a treat when you get back Happy Journey!
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Well I could say casual user, I guess, but I use mostly wifi wherever I spend more time. Home, work, friends place, all have good wifi, so when I'm out, I switch to 3G, and in that time I don't really need super fast speeds.
Thanks.

TheSaw said:
We have 4G in our little East-European country, Romania (probably you never heard of it)
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Romania?? of course I have!! have u heard about Ecuador? haha
At high school we studied most countries name around the world =) not as in...u may know where
And thanks!! means that it's really unlocked

joemon871 said:
Most phones shipped these days support most 2g/3g bands to support international roaming features. Say you're going to Europe, i wouldn't count on you getting anywhere near LTE speeds or even 4g speeds because there networks aren't that developed yet, put in simple terms, but there's a good chance that you can still get a supported 2g/3g connection, does that make sense? I would take it with me if i were you, no harm in that right?
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Makes sense and the harm is like $430 haha and then the time n money to unlock it. But now anymore by knowing that some people had try it outside the US .
My worry was about if it's really unlocked as I'm buying it to use it in Ecuador most of the time. And when u buy it, it says that they give u a t-mobile sim card so that's confusing.
Bought it yesterday

aricris said:
Makes sense and the harm is like $430 haha and then the time n money to unlock it. But now anymore by knowing that some people had try it outside the US .
My worry was about if it's really unlocked as I'm buying it to use it in Ecuador most of the time. And when u buy it, it says that they give u a t-mobile sim card so that's confusing.
Bought it yesterday
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Haha guess you'll have to find out yourself eh? let us know if it works

Works outside the us!
If you want it...buy it because it works!! The NO CONTRACT MOTO X is fully unlocked!!
Comes with a t-mobile nano card but that's no problem...I guess if that I need it at the US someday, I will have to activate it.

Did anyone get LTE to work with T-Mobile so far?

Hello. I've just talked with T-Mobile over one hour trying to make the phone connect to LTE. I've read multiple threads and things about it with very disheartening mixed results. I'm about to pack it and unfortunately send it back to them unless some knight in shining armor can really show me what is going wrong here.
I've tested in multiple ways the speed, the symbol doesn't switch from 4G and the speed barely reaches 10 mb.
Any luck?

perezdi said:
Hello. I've just talked with T-Mobile over one hour trying to make the phone connect to LTE. I've read multiple threads and things about it with very disheartening mixed results. I'm about to pack it and unfortunately send it back to them unless some knight in shining armor can really show me what is going wrong here.
I've tested in multiple ways the speed, the symbol doesn't switch from 4G and the speed barely reaches 10 mb.
Any luck?
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I just tested both Nexus 5 that we have in the house and although they seem to connect to LTE, they also have low speed, so I suppose it is a network problem from the company. Let me know in case anyone has anything about it being a consistent problem on the OnePlus 3T though. Thanks.

perezdi said:
I just tested both Nexus 5 that we have in the house and although they seem to connect to LTE, they also have low speed, so I suppose it is a network problem from the company. Let me know in case anyone has anything about it being a consistent problem on the OnePlus 3T though. Thanks.
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You probably got the wrong version. Everybody who can't get LTE eventually figures out they got the Chinese or European version NOT the united States version.

perezdi said:
Hello. I've just talked with T-Mobile over one hour trying to make the phone connect to LTE. I've read multiple threads and things about it with very disheartening mixed results. I'm about to pack it and unfortunately send it back to them unless some knight in shining armor can really show me what is going wrong here.
I've tested in multiple ways the speed, the symbol doesn't switch from 4G and the speed barely reaches 10 mb.
Any luck?
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Yes u def got the wrong model I have the 3 and the 3T running TMobile I have LTE and Volte send it back and get the North American version

perezdi said:
Hello. I've just talked with T-Mobile over one hour trying to make the phone connect to LTE. I've read multiple threads and things about it with very disheartening mixed results. I'm about to pack it and unfortunately send it back to them unless some knight in shining armor can really show me what is going wrong here.
I've tested in multiple ways the speed, the symbol doesn't switch from 4G and the speed barely reaches 10 mb.
Any luck?
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genuine55 said:
Yes u def got the wrong model I have the 3 and the 3T running TMobile I have LTE and Volte send it back and get the North American version
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How can I check if I have the correct version?

954wrecker said:
You probably got the wrong version. Everybody who can't get LTE eventually figures out they got the Chinese or European version NOT the united States version.
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Where can I find the definition for US, EU and Chinese versions?

Settings/about phone/ model. You want it to say A3000. Guessing yours does not

perezdi said:
Where can I find the definition for US, EU and Chinese versions?
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If you didn't order from OnePlus.net directly then you got the wrong version. Hopefully you didn't get Craigslist'd

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Settings/about phone/ model. You want it to say A3000. Guessing yours does not
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http://imgur.com/a/u3n41
Mmm, I've tested on the other phones again. All of them display LTE, none of them are getting top speeds like they usually do and the model seems to be correct. OnePlus 3T still display as 4G and has the same speed in the same network. Might be a T-Mobile problem.

perezdi said:
http://imgur.com/a/u3n41
Mmm, I've tested on the other phones again. All of them display LTE, none of them are getting top speeds like they usually do and the model seems to be correct.
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T-Mobile always has issues for you or just recently?
Definitely a T-Mobile issue

954wrecker said:
T-Mobile issue in your area. Try AT&T they are much faster in my area also.
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Interesting. I might just do that. I never had this problem before. Thanks.

954wrecker said:
If you didn't order from OnePlus.net directly then you got the wrong version. Hopefully you didn't get Craigslist'd
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I bought it directly from their website.

954wrecker said:
T-Mobile always has issues for you or just recently?
Definitely a T-Mobile issue
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Yeah, it seems like it. To be honest, I rarely check for LTE connection since I spend most of my days in a big zone with Wi-Fi everywhere. It's usually by train and all and since I don't use Netflix and all it might be a common problem and I never realized (but my old phone very rarely switched from LTE to 4G).
I'll call them about it.

Upgrade to OOS 4.1 see if it helps

Im having speed issues with Tmobile and the op3. My s7e and zuk z2 get 20-40mbps download, the op3 gets less than 1, but 9 mbps upload.
All connected on band 4, something is up...

Update OOS. apparently there were issues with T-Mobile and Carrier aggragation going on early in the phone's life. otherwise I have zero issues. That may solve your problem.

I purchased a midnight black and have been using it for about a week now, I flashed Freedom OS and havent had any LTE issues on T-Mobile

I'm on T-Mobile, model A3000, and mine is displaying the LTE logo and getting great speeds (40mb/s +). Is there anything I can check in my settings that would help you troubleshoot?

I'm with T-Mobile and I have no problems with my OnePlus 3T.
Sent from my ONEPLUS A3000 using XDA-Developers Legacy app

Like others have said, update your OxygenOS first, there have been carrier improvements since the version you're on. My 3T has had zero issues w/ T-Mobile. I get VoLTE and VoWiFi w/ no issues, along with respective LTE speeds.