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Replacement used screen?

Hi y'all.
I am devestated. This morning my N1 hit cement. The glass is cracked in the bottom right corner and on the top left. It doesnt affect usability, but definitely affects me.
I was looking for replacement glass on ebay. There are glass/digitizers combo but they dont seem to be made by HTC. I have 3 questions
1) Do the glass/digitizers on ebay perform well?
2) Is it possible to swap in a used screen from a dead N1? DO i need the adhesive strips etc
3) DOes anyone have glass to sell?
thank you all. I am an adult man, and I am honestly really bumbed

Does anyone have any experience with this supplier?
http://cnn.cn/shop/google-nexus-digitizer-p-8252.html?osCsid=6e452031a9e2f9fda634a17550345a78
Anyone actually done a glass swap? How was it?

no one? halp

DownloaderZ said:
Hi y'all.
I am devestated. This morning my N1 hit cement. The glass is cracked in the bottom right corner and on the top left. It doesnt affect usability, but definitely affects me.
I was looking for replacement glass on ebay. There are glass/digitizers combo but they dont seem to be made by HTC. I have 3 questions
1) Do the glass/digitizers on ebay perform well?
2) Is it possible to swap in a used screen from a dead N1? DO i need the adhesive strips etc
3) DOes anyone have glass to sell?
thank you all. I am an adult man, and I am honestly really bumbed
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1. Yes. I have purchased 7 for mytouch 4g from ebay and amazon with no issues (they work). I got 1 that had 0.15mm (I'm talkinreally small) bubble but it caused no issue and could only be seen by close inspection with the screen off
2. yes...from a dead N1 I would think it easier to swap the main board and avoid lcd/touchscreen removal from the frame...if you remove the lcd/touchscreen from the frame an adhesive (3m double stick tape is commonly used) will be needed.....place don't use glue...out makes a huge mesa and is entirely unneeded overkill
3. Ebay... Under thirty bucks....some local repair shops do this repair fir $20 + parts
Oh yeah. Glass swap is easy(but I do electronic product refurbishing fora living)..take your time as the cables and connectors can be delicate. You must also be careful not to get dust between touchscreen and lcd or fingerprints inside the touchscreen

Ok great. I have found some OEM ones on ebay and that seems like a good direction.
Is there a write-up anywhere of how to use the doublesided sticky tape so that the screen lays down into the frame perfectly?
Thanks for your reply!!
androph said:
1. Yes. I have purchased 7 for mytouch 4g from ebay and amazon with no issues (they work). I got 1 that had 0.15mm (I'm talkinreally small) bubble but it caused no issue and could only be seen by close inspection with the screen off
2. yes...from a dead N1 I would think it easier to swap the main board and avoid lcd/touchscreen removal from the frame...if you remove the lcd/touchscreen from the frame an adhesive (3m double stick tape is commonly used) will be needed.....place don't use glue...out makes a huge mesa and is entirely unneeded overkill
3. Ebay... Under thirty bucks....some local repair shops do this repair fir $20 + parts
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To apply tape I
1.remove old adhesive from frame
2.remove protective plastic from touchscreen (lcd side)
3.lay touchscreen on table finger side (the side that faces out) down
4.place strips of adhesive (double stick tape) onto touchscreen black border region (leave aprox 0.2mm gap from visable area)....do not cover flash, front cam or light sensor areas (if applicable)
5.place touchscreen with lcd side down
6.you can now user razor blade to trim excess along the the edge of touchscreen
I have never doe a n1...only mytouch4g and hd2 but I am sure it is practically the same
Dust is not much of am issue....you will probably introduce more dust trying to clean our blow out the dust....you can buy that antistatic air spray (this may be helpful but but needed if carful)

Also make sure you get the right one. There is the OLED and the LCD one...
You can see which you have from the back of yours (not sure if there is another way to find out) I bought the wrong one for mine so if you need the LCD one, drop me a line...

Improve Nexus 4 thermal transfer with thermal pad

Hey guys, I have read many reviews where people complain about overheating and excessive amount of heat from the phone localized in one area. Based on the tear down provided by ifixit, there looks to be no EMI shield over the CPU/memory chip area unless it was removed before the photo was taken. But either way, I see that when assembled there is the metal backing to the LCD directly above it which would really dissipate the heat well.
Why not purchase some thin thermal pads and apply as necessary to transfer the heat to the metal frame directly above it. Even if there is an EMI shield over it, open it up (unless it's soldered making it harder) and put the thin thermal pad in there and on the outside of the shield.
Seems like a very simple solution to fix a pretty big problem. I don't have my hands on a Nexus 4 and am unsure if I will in the future but if I ever do I will definitely try this and provide results and instructions on how to do the same.

Or LG could design the phone better.

johnny13oi said:
Hey guys, I have read many reviews where people complain about overheating and excessive amount of heat from the phone localized in one area. Based on the tear down provided by ifixit, there looks to be no EMI shield over the CPU/memory chip area unless it was removed before the photo was taken. But either way, I see that when assembled there is the metal backing to the LCD directly above it which would really dissipate the heat well.
Why not purchase some thin thermal pads and apply as necessary to transfer the heat to the metal frame directly above it. Even if there is an EMI shield over it, open it up (unless it's soldered making it harder) and put the thin thermal pad in there and on the outside of the shield.
Seems like a very simple solution to fix a pretty big problem. I don't have my hands on a Nexus 4 and am unsure if I will in the future but if I ever do I will definitely try this and provide results and instructions on how to do the same.
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Is not a bad idea actually, but i'm not too sure if the display will soffer about it
If only had a n4 to test it XD (i have some thermal pad lying around)

Venekor said:
Or LG could design the phone better.
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This.
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InvalidUsername said:
Venekor said:
Or LG could design the phone better.
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This.
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We hack phones to try and make them work better on this website, did you know that?

Venekor said:
Or LG could design the phone better.
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While I agree with you, thermal pads are relatively cheap and the concerns about pressure on the LCD by another poster would be fine as long as you use a thinner thermal pad that doesn't compress too much after application. I have various thickness of thermal pads so as long as you use the correct one to apply just the right amount of pressure I can only see a large benefit from something so simple.
It would require opening the device and I am unsure if there are warranty voiding stickers in the phone. Some people are really happy with the phone and this is the only problem so I am merely just trying to provide a solution to the one problem remaining.

Thermal pads are to conduct heat from one surface (CPU) to another (heatsink). I can't say I agree with using the screen as a heatsink.

johnny13oi said:
While I agree with you, thermal pads are relatively cheap and the concerns about pressure on the LCD by another poster would be fine as long as you use a thinner thermal pad that doesn't compress too much after application. I have various thickness of thermal pads so as long as you use the correct one to apply just the right amount of pressure I can only see a large benefit from something so simple.
It would require opening the device and I am unsure if there are warranty voiding stickers in the phone. Some people are really happy with the phone and this is the only problem so I am merely just trying to provide a solution to the one problem remaining.
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I wasn't talking of the pressure but the heat that the backplade dissipate, maybe can damage the screen

I doubt it will help,
someone pointed out that the only trigger for thermal throttling is the battery temperature,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=34224171&postcount=85

BakaPhoenix said:
I wasn't talking of the pressure but the heat that the backplade dissipate, maybe can damage the screen
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Yeah, i would guess the space there is to keep the heat from the screen...
If this phone runs hot it is most likely due to the glass acting as an insulator. Is there any venting anywhere? I bet much of the thermal issue could be solved with a well placed vent..
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While I can see concerns about damaging the LCD due to the heat but I imagine heat spread over the entire surface of the phone is much better than localizing a much more intense heat in a smaller area. LCDs can withstand a decent amount of heat and a small arm chip spreading heat over the entire surface of the phone would be very minimal to no effect on the LCD. I can see great potential for damage allowing the heat to be confined to a small area (just the CPU and RAM sitting on each other) with no heat spreader or heat sink.

Well I guess we won't be overclocking this phone anytime time soon. And you know I was really hoping I could finally fry me some bacon strips on my way to work.

johnny13oi said:
While I can see concerns about damaging the LCD due to the heat but I imagine heat spread over the entire surface of the phone is much better than localizing a much more intense heat in a smaller area. LCDs can withstand a decent amount of heat and a small arm chip spreading heat over the entire surface of the phone would be very minimal to no effect on the LCD. I can see great potential for damage allowing the heat to be confined to a small area (just the CPU and RAM sitting on each other) with no heat spreader or heat sink.
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Air is a very good thermal isolator, i read that many desktop ips lcs have a maximum teamp. of 35/40 C° so if if the cpu heats a lot it can create problems. I don't know how much is the max temp that this ips can withstand tough.

BakaPhoenix said:
Air is a very good thermal isolator, i read that many desktop ips lcs have a maximum teamp. of 35/40 C° so if if the cpu heats a lot it can create problems. I don't know how much is the max temp that this ips can withstand tough.
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I really think this whole heat thing is a kernel issue at the moment. I remember owning the one x since very 1.26 or was it an earlier one? Either way, the phone would really get VERY hot. After a few updates i barely felt the heat. Maybe when playing games or whatever, all in all the updates solved the issue. I think google will manage to sort it out, i can't imagine them being that stupid.

I guess if you are concerned with the LCD becoming damaged then you could just put the thermal pad on the other side to make the whole motherboard (minus spring contacts) contact the glass back and spread the heat outside including the battery.
And yes air is a very good thermal insulator so all the heat is just getting trapped inside the phone. Gotta use some thermal pads to conduct that heat to a panel exposed to the outside.
These are all just suggestions that I would do if I were to have one in my hands right now.

johnny13oi said:
I guess if you are concerned with the LCD becoming damaged then you could just put the thermal pad on the other side to make the whole motherboard (minus spring contacts) contact the glass back and spread the heat outside including the battery.
And yes air is a very good thermal insulator so all the heat is just getting trapped inside the phone. Gotta use some thermal pads to conduct that heat to a panel exposed to the outside.
These are all just suggestions that I would do if I were to have one in my hands right now.
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The bottom line is if the SOC or N4 design is flawed internally which created thermal throttling, then there won't be much help for inserting thermal pads. I have tried this with HD2 when it had thermal runaway. There was a huge thread figuring out how to cure it by many methods as far as putting the motherboard in the oven to melt the soldering at exact time and temperature. The thermal pads method only decreased a few Fahrenheit which wasn't enough to cure if there was a thermal problems. My HD2's SOC was made by Qualcomm. Something definitely don't add up with bad benchmarks scores, thermal problems. Could future updates cure this? Only time can tell.

I've done something similar with my OCed Samsung i9000, but instead of using thermal pads, I used thermal paste. Similar to the Nexus 4 the cpu IC is sandwiched between the PCB and the metal chassis. The metal chassis becomes a massive heatsink for the CPU which dropped my CPU temp. by 10oC (~17oF) at maximum load.
After 9 months of use there hasn't been any damage or deterioration of the display screen (AMOLED).
Details can be found in the i9000 forum.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1605517
When I receive my Nexus 4 I plan to do something similar.

The only problem i can see with this method is warranty. I'm 100% sure that even if there is no warranty void stickers on the screws they won't accept to fix a phone that has been tinkered with
And try to wipe thermal paste without leaving any trace you will fail

Capt.PP said:
The bottom line is if the SOC or N4 design is flawed internally which created thermal throttling, then there won't be much help for inserting thermal pads.
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It is not flawed as such, it is just overdimensioned.
In essence it is a double APQ8060A + quicker (more power hungry) GPU + additional management circuitry. So it should not surprise, that under full load (benchmarks) it burns through more than double of the usual dual core Krait phone power. While having similar dimensions/power dissipation capacity.
In their marketing Qualcomm positioned this SoC for Tablets. Now you have it in the phone. Is it bad? Not really, full power quadcore tasks is not a realistic task for a phone. And for a second or two (after this it does not matter anymore since your phone "lags") the existing cooling is perfectly adequate.
One thing where Qualcomm/LG/Google could do better are the GPU drivers. Which currently seem badly tuned.

teardown reveals some questions???

opening my op3t reveals a thermal pad that is on top the metal cover just to the right of the led flash.. upon closer inspection.. it appeared to have a white sticker over the the thermal pad.. removing it actually exposed the thermal pad materiel.. im wondering if the production facility forgot to remove the sticker on top the thermal pad causing improper heat dissipation?? anyone??

Oops, almost like in Apple Macbook Pros where they forgot to even apply thermal paste at all some years ago ?

I recommend Jerry rig everything. Check the teardown video

i taken apart the phone my self and discovered this.. I've seen this YouTube vid . and you can clearly see it on the main board.. its white film/ sticker over the thermal pad.. im positively sure this white film should have been removed.. and wasn't.. its not letting the thermal material make direct contact with the metal housing of the phone... its not just on my phone.. its really easy to open up this phone.. look for your self.. removing the white film will help with temps i can promise you....

My battery has been terrible. Maybe temps are to blame. Wish I could find a battery to replace while im at it
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derekdauzat said:
opening my op3t reveals a thermal pad that is on top the metal cover just to the right of the led flash.. upon closer inspection.. it appeared to have a white sticker over the the thermal pad.. removing it actually exposed the thermal pad materiel.. im wondering if the production facility forgot to remove the sticker on top the thermal pad causing improper heat dissipation?? anyone??
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I have to agree with your assessment. Looks like a blunder for sure. You should contact OP with your findings to see what they say.

Hardware-Mod: Adding a copper heatpipe

Since we have no dedicated hardware modding subforum I just went for the mod section - feel free to move the thread accordingly if I am in the wrong.
Recently I broke my OP3 and bought two used ones with shattered displays of ebay, assembling a frankenstein sort of phone with my working parts. Now I have two working OP3s, my daily driver and one with a shattered display. In addition, I have one that is almost completely ruined and useless. That got me thinking.
I recently saw a lot of manufacturers incorporating heat pipes made of copper, filled with a little liquid into their devices to spread the heat from the SoC more efficiently along the backside of the device. Namely the Razer Phone, The Galaxy S8 and S9, the new Pocophone F1, just to name a few. Naturally, these parts come available at replacement shops for cheap. Like here for example: https://stellatech.com/en/samsung-sm-g950f-galaxy-s8-heat-pipe,a,828202.html/
Now, since my OP3 tends to get hot in the SoC/Camera area not only during gaming, I thought why not try fitting one of these to the aluminum back of the phone. The OP3 appears to have some sort of thermally conducting sticker, connecting the SoC under its shield to the aluminum back for heat dissipation.
My plan would be to Dremel a groove into the aluminum back, to fit the heat pipe. Then secure it in place with thermally conducting glue, alternatively thermal paste and some drops of epoxy along the way. Remove the shield from the soc, cut the sides off for easier alignment and solder it to the heat pipe.
Then add some thermal paste to the CPU and GPU and press the back/heat pipe/shield assembly on, closing up the phone. Paste would have to be replaced every time the phone is opened though.
I am open to any suggestions how to better achieve this as well as educated guesses on the effectiveness of my project.
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Or better
Replace the shield with thermal pad copper joined with the heatpipe
Apply liquid metal instead normal thermal paste
Make many tiny holes in the back case
Make a custom build cooler pad with 11000 RPM fans
Build by yourself or ask some kernel devs to put a very high frequencies in the custom setting
Put it on youtube with a clickbait title even it's not working
$ Profit $

150208 said:
Or better
Replace the shield with thermal pad copper joined with the heatpipe
Apply liquid metal instead normal thermal paste
Make many tiny holes in the back case
Make a custom build cooler pad with 11000 RPM fans
Build by yourself or ask some kernel devs to put a very high frequencies in the custom setting
Put it on youtube with a clickbait title even it's not working
$ Profit $
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Someone give this guy a medal!!

Aluminium alone works also as a heat spreader. So I would maybe first try to polish the area on the case where the SoC is , to improve contact quality, and then use some higher quality thermal pad.
Run benchmarks before and after. (Like 10,x geekbench in a row.)

Heatpipes're used everywhere in tech these days. They work fine. I enjoy a snarky comment as much as the next droider, but really there's no reason you couldn't mod a case back to have a heatpipe running all the way down, although it might heat up the battery running past it.

Alternative
or you can try using this instead just copy paste on Amazon
Innovation Cooling Graphite Thermal Pad – Alternative To Thermal Paste/Grease (30 X 30mm)
for us, the PC enthusiasts its been working legit wonders while not having the downsides of paste

I think it would be unnecessary for already cooled device

Display Replacement

Hey guys,
unluckily my Display (not the glass) got broken so I have to replace it and also ordered it already. After watching a few teardowns I have two questions:
Do I have to remove the back or can I just warm up the adhesive and take the screen off?
Can I use glue to replace it or do I have to use tape and can I use normal nail polish remover to remove the adhesive residue?
Sincerely

unins000 said:
Hey guys,
unluckily my Display (not the glass) got broken so I have to replace it and also ordered it already. After watching a few teardowns I have two questions:
Do I have to remove the back or can I just warm up the adhesive and take the screen off?
Can I use glue to replace it or do I have to use tape and can I use normal nail polish remover to remove the adhesive residue?
Sincerely
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You can go through the front, but it definitely would be more risky since all components will still be connected.
I would personally not use glue. Glue is meant to support more rigid materials and the components in the phone are quite fragile. Though you could use very thin electronic glue. Not sure how well that would work.
Regarding the nail polish remover, I would not use that unless the content of water is <10%. You want at least 90% alcohol content for cleaning the adhesive. Your best bet is IPA (isopropyl alcohol). It will clean better and will not risk water damage to any components inside the phone.

So you say I have to do it from the back?
What is the risky part of going through the front?
Because of glue: Can I use any double sided tape I want?

So now I opened the ROG Phone 2 through the back and made the following experiences. And for all those who are wondering the same:
In my opinion you can't go through the front because the display is connected with a flex cable through the middle frame (which is indepentend from the display so the display comes without a middle frame where the components are assembled in like in many other smartphones) to the motherboard. Though there is a cut out in the middle frame for it but the motherboard blocks it so far that only the cable itself can go through and not the connecting port. Maybe you can disconnect the display but not connect the new one without disassembling the motherboard from the middle frame. And that's only possible with going through the back and loose the screws. In additon, especially after a fall, there can be more components be broken as just the display. In this case you can connect the new display and check all the functions before glue it together back again.
Because of the glue:
There is a glue available in two colors called B-7000 and T-7000. One of them is black and the other one is transparent depending on the color of your smartphone. These glues are especially made for smartphones. If you watch the Display replacement videos for the ROG Phone 2 you can see that they are using this type of glue and not double sided tape since it has to be 1 mm or narrower to be able to glue the display with the middle frame again.
For the back you can use double sided tape.