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I have used Galaxy SL and am using Galaxy Note.
Many people were and are complaining about Stock Roms, either ICS or GB for both of the phones I use.
They say that Camera has a pink problem, GPS does not lock quickly, Video recording is not good, it is laggy, etc etc.
But same people are dying for CM Roms which have lots of bugs. Even CM 7.2 has wifi and video recording bugs for i9003.
Even stock Roms do not have those problems, and many latest stock roms are really good, people are not happy with them.
I do not see any reason to mention about Note stock Roms, especially ICS kernels and roms. They are very very stable without any bugs.
However, many people bricked their phones while they are trying to flash CM10 to their Notes.
OK. I accept that one year old stock roms were not good as much as they should be. But this is not the case anymore.
But still many people are ready to die for CM even if it has many bugs. They complain for stock but lose themselves for CM
Now, could someone please explain me what makes CM Roms that better? And even if they have lots of bugs people are using them as daily driver?
Regards
Maybe just for fun
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You obviously have not tried Paranoid Android.
ardicli2000 said:
I have used Galaxy SL and am using Galaxy Note.
Many people were and are complaining about Stock Roms, either ICS or GB for both of the phones I use.
They say that Camera has a pink problem, GPS does not lock quickly, Video recording is not good, it is laggy, etc etc.
But same people are dying for CM Roms which have lots of bugs. Even CM 7.2 has wifi and video recording bugs for i9003.
Even stock Roms do not have those problems, and many latest stock roms are really good, people are not happy with them.
I do not see any reason to mention about Note stock Roms, especially ICS kernels and roms. They are very very stable without any bugs.
However, many people bricked their phones while they are trying to flash CM10 to their Notes.
OK. I accept that one year old stock roms were not good as much as they should be. But this is not the case anymore.
But still many people are ready to die for CM even if it has many bugs. They complain for stock but lose themselves for CM
Now, could someone please explain me what makes CM Roms that better? And even if they have lots of bugs people are using them as daily driver?
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CM(At least CM9) is really quite stable on the note, I have never had any problems with it.
I personaly use it as my daily drive for a few reasons:
I find it gives better battery life
I Love the stock ICS look over samsungs touchwiz
CM9 uses much less RAM giving more ram for apps, giving better multitasking and also much more RAM for running a linux GUI
I have used CM roms since my HTC magic CyanogenMod 4 FTW! (infact I might have been running early than that but I really dont remember)
personally ive used CM builds but never felt like ive wanted to use them as my daily drivers because they just lack too many built in features of the stock rom
im not the type of person to get a stripped down rom and download 1000 apps to make it how i want it
id rather use the stock rom, only download 10 apps and have everything there
Mainly it uses a safe kernel which is emmc cap erase command disabled which prevents from our device from bricking.
In CM(/AOSP/AOKP most of the logging/Samsung crap applications were removed so that your phone runs fast. Its just about 140-160 MB. You can feel the difference in size. lol
Its very stable compared to other roms.
You will see a lot of features put it up in rom.
Etc Etc
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You obviously have not tried Paranoid Android.
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1+ touchwiz is only a great ui until you experience something different, something greater.
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as said from other users, best ROM for the International N7000 Galaxy Note is the ParanoidAndroid
I was using aosp in my smaller phones. Galaxy s2 for example because i can mod them like changong dpi and so on, and the stock rpms for gs2 were so bad, but with my new note i think the stock roms are more stable and battery friendly than aosp, also yhe kernel development for aosp isn't so great as fow TW Roms, and this my 1st reason to use stock, you know i was flashing 2-3 kernels/day in my s2
BTW: You can remove all crap in the stock rom to have agood rolunning rom.
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I was using aosp in my smaller phones. Galaxy s2 for example because i can mod them like changong dpi and so on, and the stock rpms for gs2 were so bad, but with my new note i think the stock roms are more stable and battery friendly than aosp, also yhe kernel development for aosp isn't so great as fow TW Roms, and this my 1st reason to use stock, you know i was flashing 2-3 kernels/day in my s2
BTW: You can remove all crap in the stock rom to have agood rolunning rom.
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I think in the same way also.
CM lacks lots of stuff from Samsung craps. That's OK. butn it also lack lots of thing I daily use.
Besides I tried ADW Launcher. It really sucks. Nova is far more better and smoother.
Also some people claim that it drains less battery and it is fast. It is obvious that they did not use Notecore v9 with TW
I thas been 1 day and I still have %70 battery. And can't tell how awesome it is. Just check the thread...
As for ram, my phone uses ram between 500-600 mb. There are still 200 mb rams. Which is fine and enough for me.
Also it is really easy to remove some crappy stuff from samsung when you are rooted. (to be rooted takes only three minutes or maybe less )
It is OK some people like it and use it. I am of course fine with that.
But what I mean is CM is not superior to stock or TW based Roms, at least not anymore...
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But I cannot understand why people like stcok roms with some modification
its all personal preference.
like spen/ intevration of pen and samsung apps use stock
like rom to be close to android original source and above mentioned advantages use cm9/aoskp. you wont have full spen and other samsung apps.
whichever you like
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baz77 said:
its all personal preference.
like spen/ intevration of pen and samsung apps use stock
like rom to be close to android original source and above mentioned advantages use cm9/aoskp. you wont have full spen and other samsung apps.
whichever you like
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Then the answer is that people prefer it because of their preferences
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No matter what rom i try, i always end up going back to CM.
The main reason i'm on CM is for the speed and the features.
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CM = AOSP. AOSP = Android how it was designed and intended to be.
For me, User Interface is the most important factor in choosing the OS. Android was far behind iOS and WP7. It changed since ICS and now JB made it even better than iOS. Pure awesomeness of WP7 interface is a whole other story, not commenting on the OS itself - its UI is simply amazing. Back to UI preferences...It has to be responsive, fast and well designed ( that means visually attractive and coherent ). For example, TouchWiz is terrible for me, it makes my phone look like cheap chinese rip-off. I'm sorry, that's just my opinion, i don't want to offend anyone. The only overlay i like is Sony's TimeScape, although i still prefer AOSP. Why ? Simply because it's better designed, coherent and smoother - so it makes my user experience a lot more satisfying.
For the Note, best ROM is still Paranoid Rom for me. Firstly because of the safe kernel and secondly I can easily overclock and under volt it without much hassles.
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Well it all depends...when I had the captivate Cm9 was by far the best experience. So I came to the note with the same expectations but sadly cm9 and the likes are still not on par with Samsung ROMs in speed or features.
I still flash newer versions as I expect them to be better at some point but at this time..still not there. I use CleanNote Rom.
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For the Note, best ROM is still Paranoid Rom for me. Firstly because of the safe kernel and secondly I can easily overclock and under volt it without much hassles.
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Which kernel do you use for over clocking?
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I'm interested to see which ROM everyone is running, and to see some recommendations.
paranoid android with the latest monty kernel. pure excellence
BAMF Rom pretty decent and its pretty stock with a few tweaks..
CM10. Pretty stable for the most part
Euroskank cm10 kang
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I'll play. I came from two HTC devices. I thought CM was the solution to everything. The first thing I did was install every CM rom looking for the best one. None were as good as stock. More features, yes, but not as stable and choppier performance. Turns out CM is the solution to sense because it's really the closest you can get to pure Google on a Sense-based device.
I've made the rounds trying everything else out there the last week or two. The best rom I've run in terms of stability and performance is Pure AOSP. It's what I thought I had been trying to get when I tried the CM roms. It really is pure Google.
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Hi everyone ... I'm currently running stock jellybean 4.1 rooted. So I'm looking for a ROM which is stable and fast with good battery life and stock frequencies!!! I b no means want to highjack the thread so I request u to mention what ROM ur Running followed by how it compares to stock ROM. Cheers!!
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I'll play. I came from two HTC devices. I thought CM was the solution to everything. The first thing I did was install every CM rom looking for the best one. None were as good as stock. More features, yes, but not as stable and choppier performance. Turns out CM is the solution to sense because it's really the closest you can get to pure Google on a Sense-based device.
I've made the rounds trying everything else out there the last week or two. The best rom I've run in terms of stability and performance is Pure AOSP. It's what I thought I had been trying to get when I tried the CM roms. It really is pure Google.
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i always thought that CM was always buggy and not top performance, but when i finally tried it out on my nexus it wasent to bad. But i do agree that stock is faster in performance, and i really like AOKP which has more features i think, and is better performance, but i think that roms based off of mostly stock with a few features will get you the best performance and battery life.
Glazed ROM, Very fast, I like the ability to use Edge swipe to hide the system bar, turn on /off animations looks awesome with cobalt donate theme.
Glazed JellyBean- fast and stable, no non-working apps or hardware issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796668
Nice thing about the stock ROM for the N7 is it doesn't suck (once rooted).
Some tablets have such poor factory ROM's that you're pretty much required to run 2nd party ROM's, but for most users- the stock ROM for the N7 is good enough and will do just fine.
Jr6 ROM, based on android jellybean 4.1.1
I'm stock & rooted on my N7 and my GSM GNex... For the 1st time in as long as I can remember, I don't feel the need for a custom ROM with JB 4.1.1 running so smoothly..
Stock and rooted. I haven't found a reason to try another rom yet.
Stock rooted with Motley's kernel running at 1.6 GHz. I agree with the other guys, I haven't felt the need to run a custom ROM (yet). JB is really smooth and the other ROMs don't seem to provide any other amazing features over the stock ROM. Once all the ROMs get out of alpha/beta I may be tempted to switch.
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going ahead and trying the glazed rom and see how it works, seems the most complete or out of beta/alpha stage
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Glazed ROM, Very fast, I like the ability to use Edge swipe to hide the system bar, turn on /off animations looks awesome with cobalt donate theme.
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Same here! Extremely smooth with the ability of customization!
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Glazed JellyBean- fast and stable, no non-working apps or hardware issues.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1796668
Nice thing about the stock ROM for the N7 is it doesn't suck (once rooted).
Some tablets have such poor factory ROM's that you're pretty much required to run 2nd party ROM's, but for most users- the stock ROM for the N7 is good enough and will do just fine.
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I just converted to glazed.. It rocks, and is buttery fast.
Running Team BAMFs ROM. It's stable and smooth.
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Wouldn't 2nd party be like HTC sense and Samsung touchwiz?
I'm on Glazed and I love it. The mod app that hyperrunner is making looks awesome
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Just stock, but rooted. I never have been one to care about all that crap, unless it was my only option to be most up to date.
Hello,
I'm about to get the i9305, I basically got that I need to stay with the samsung roms to have a fully working device with no bugs.
Even though I'm not a fan of touchwiz (in fact I prefer stock Android) I could try some ROMs (not based on stock) but I read that they will never work properly due to lack of sources code. What are the things missing or that will never work?
I'm coming from the LG O2X that drove me crazy cause the stock roms sucked sooo much and we (users) had the same problem but custom roms with NVIDIA!
I'm going with this phone cause it's the only one I know that gives me:
- good battery life among latest smartphones
- 2GB of RAM
- REMOVABLE BATTERY
- 42Mbit in 3G
for that price. So maybe I thought that having touchwiz is the price to pay to have these specs at this price.
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EDIT: WRONG SECTION, CAN SOMEONE MOVE IT TO THE I9305 Q&A ONE? THANK YOU.
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Hit the report button and a mod will move it for you
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Well, most of the ROMs for the Galaxy S3 I9300/I9305 are stable. Because the developers make the ROM based on the official update from Samsung. If you want a stock looking ROM, install ROMs based on AOSP like CyanogenMod, AOKP and Paranoid Android. AOSP ROMs are fast because it is light, no bloatware. AOSP ROMs are quite stable though.
Other than ROMs, there is also some custom kernels, Most of them are also stable. To me, I like the Perseus kernel by AndreiLux because it saves my battery life. The highest I have got are about 2 days unplugged with 5 hours of on screen time.
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for example, camera quality is worse
If I remove bloatware (if possible) from Sammys ROMS will they be as fast?
No problems with Sammy based ROMs, so don't worry. They are stable and smooth. Use Titanium or other (root) uninstaller to remove bloatware! On benchmark tests, you will get lower results comparing to 4.2.2 ROMs, but you won't noticed that in everyday usage! I am the one who loves CM based ROMs, but some problems with network are good reason for not using them at the moment. :fingers-crossed:
you will notice the difference, AOSP ROMs will be smoother than debloated Sammy ROMs, so the choice is yours
but aosp roms will ever show problems on this phone ;(
yes
are the other phones affected too? like i9300 and Note?
yes
Flashing custom roms has pros and cons no matter what the phone.
I just like flashing new roms
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Some AOSP based ROMs have quite a few bugs though, that's keeping me away from them.
Does the LED indicator work on custom roms? Especially CM. I care about notifications mainly.
Everything works like a charm. You can use some free app for more options (I'm using "Light Manager").
I wonder if the recent fixes for the camera released for i9300 will be applied to i9305 as well
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Some AOSP based ROMs have quite a few bugs though, that's keeping me away from them.
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Like what? except for camera issues
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I wonder if the recent fixes for the camera released for i9300 will be applied to i9305 as well
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In the latest Sentinel ROM, camera works like a charm!
Harthouse said:
In the latest Sentinel ROM, camera works like a charm!
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I was talking about AOSP roms, I believe that is based off Sammy ROMs? You said non-sammy ones have problems with network that it's keeping you away from them
Yeah, I said that, but I am on Sentinel ROM v4.40 at the monent, no matter on that "network problem" I have with all CM 10.1 ROMs.
Hey people !
After spending a whole afternoon looking for a stable and battery friendly CUSTOM Rom for my SG3 LTE version I got confused with all those options.
Could any of you suggest one Rom that could offer me good battery, performance and with every function working properly.
Thanks in advance.
trez_man said:
Hey people !
After spending a whole afternoon looking for a stable and battery friendly CUSTOM Rom for my SG3 LTE version I got confused with all those options.
Could any of you suggest one Rom that could offer me good battery, performance and with every function working properly.
Thanks in advance.
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Try debloating stock rom
trez_man said:
Hey people !
After spending a whole afternoon looking for a stable and battery friendly CUSTOM Rom for my SG3 LTE version I got confused with all those options.
Could any of you suggest one Rom that could offer me good battery, performance and with every function working properly.
Thanks in advance.
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Hi
I'm prettty much in favor of non-stock ROMs, so my reply may be a bit biased
Depending on what you mean by "latest" I would recommend Sentinel ROM, which I have been running for months on my S3LTE without any issues - just works, is very stable and excellent battery life !
As it has been a bit quiet around this ROM for some time now and I wanted to look into what has changed in 6 months I now tested a few ROMs and ended up with Ressurection Remix for the time being, looks fine so far.
HTH, best regards,
Axel
The Galaxy Project (link in my signature)
hands down the most stable ROM for the 9305, probably because its made by those who actually use and own a 9305. It's not some fork or spin-off from a 9300 tree.
Running on TGP for a year now, with a functional 4G link.
Thank you guys !
Dont froget amcha rom.. one of the beat
Currently archidroid is the best kitkat ROM. No forced close ,good battery. Fast.
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1lshara, What rom did you go with and what do you think of it. Did you have any issues at all?
for simplicity stock look but great battery life and stable i suggest you try rXTREME.JB.4.3-V4.1.
for customization and ofcourse good battery and stable i suggest AllianceROM V3.
if your not onto stock based then i cannot suggest :victory:
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for simplicity stock look but great battery life and stable i suggest you try rXTREME.JB.4.3-V4.1.
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Thanks for this suggestion, I once installed ROMs for my GF but she isn't tech savvy and his been a nightmare. All she wants is something with good battery life and camera that works. I am going to give this a go on her phone this weekend and see how it goes.
I think Alliance ROM is excellent except it isn't the latest. Unless it changed recently it is Jelly bean based not kit kat. I used it for months and my only issue was battery life.
I then went through a number of ROMs (I'm totally new to this BTW) and found they all have faults of some kind. Mostly, there's nothing out there so far as I've found that can come close to the Samsung camera app.
I had omni for a while but started having a few problems such as lock up reboot when streaming from media browser.
Currently I'm on liquid smooth which doubled my battery life (well nearly double). However, like all the kit Kat based ROMs I tried, the camera is a bit naff and ecoffeecard had a corrupt camera view rendering it useless. Last week I started getting systemui faults and force closes so updated to the nightly. But still have the systemui crash today. So I'm really thinking of reverting to alliance at this b point. I'm thinking it was the Samsung stuff that hurt the battery so maybe that can be removed (except the awesome camera app).
Hope that helps.
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I think Alliance ROM is excellent except it isn't the latest. Unless it changed recently it is Jelly bean based not kit kat. I used it for months and my only issue was battery life.
I then went through a number of ROMs (I'm totally new to this BTW) and found they all have faults of some kind. Mostly, there's nothing out there so far as I've found that can come close to the Samsung camera app.
I had omni for a while but started having a few problems such as lock up reboot when streaming from media browser.
Currently I'm on liquid smooth which doubled my battery life (well nearly double). However, like all the kit Kat based ROMs I tried, the camera is a bit naff and ecoffeecard had a corrupt camera view rendering it useless. Last week I started getting systemui faults and force closes so updated to the nightly. But still have the systemui crash today. So I'm really thinking of reverting to alliance at this b point. I'm thinking it was the Samsung stuff that hurt the battery so maybe that can be removed (except the awesome camera app).
Hope that helps.
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Try archidroid, no problem with google camera, good battery life and no forced closes.
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anguslaw said:
Try archidroid, no problem with google camera, good battery life and no forced closes.
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Thanks - got a feeling I looked at that but can't remember the details (I seemed to be flashing a new ROM every hour or so there for a while) - I'll give it another whirl
Use 2.4.5 , don't use the1.x version. 2.4.5 is kitkat. So far i think this is far more battery friendly than the official omni nighties.
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You cant place words "stable" and "latest" together!!
Stable means that its working without problems for a long time, so it cant be latest.
Very stable means almost ideal, so it dont exist, everyone has their own experience, so each will give you different advice and you will end up with nothing more than crap
I was trying couple of roms and my theory is that custom roms are like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get (sentence form Forest Gump). For me and my actual phone least unpleasant surprises gave stock 4.1.2 with added JKAY mod and removed apps by me.
But for security gap in browser I changed to stock 4.3 with 4.1.2 bootloader and some xposed modules. This is not a good setup, cause from time to time battery is eated very fast, even battery stats does not show anything specific.
As someone has already said, stable and latest can't always go together. Stock based ROMs will generally be more stable. However, Cm-based ROMS, for instance, are currently the only way to get the latest android version, coupled with nice extra features. If you really value being able to use every phone function without any weird bugs, stick with a stock based ROM. For the i9300, I'd recommend SmartDroid (dunno if it's available for the LTE version).
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Use 2.4.5 , don't use the1.x version. 2.4.5 is kitkat. So far i think this is far more battery friendly than the official omni nighties.
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I remember this one now - don't like the aroma installer; it only occupies half the screen yet takes touch for the whole screen. which means a lot of guessing where to tap to trigger the button.
It's installed now so will see how it goes today.
FWIW - the base Google camera hides too many feature down on a second layer of menu options so it's impossible to get to the quickly. the 'colour' one in play store doesn't even have half the features as far as I can find, and the controls keep disappearing off screen. Samsungs app lets you keep custom shortcuts on screen and also lets you take photos during a video shoot.
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I remember this one now - don't like the aroma installer; it only occupies half the screen yet takes touch for the whole screen. which means a lot of guessing where to tap to trigger the button.
It's installed now so will see how it goes today.
FWIW - the base Google camera hides too many feature down on a second layer of menu options so it's impossible to get to the quickly. the 'colour' one in play store doesn't even have half the features as far as I can find, and the controls keep disappearing off screen. Samsungs app lets you keep custom shortcuts on screen and also lets you take photos during a video shoot.
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I agree that Samsung camera is user friendly. For the aroma installer problem,i think if you are coming from not 4.4.2, you should format system before flashing, the aroma installer then will become full screen.
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I'm using CM11 on my 9305, and power consumption is terrible.
The stock ROM was also not good.
Which ROM should I use? I prefer stable and battery life.
Thanks!
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I agree that Samsung camera is user friendly. For the aroma installer problem,i think if you are coming from not 4.4.2, you should format system before flashing, the aroma installer then will become full screen.
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When you say format - I did a factory reset within TWRP which wipes Data, Cache and Dalvik. is that what you mean or should I be doing an 'advanced wipe' ?
After Archi was installed, I found I was missing my contacts - possibly because I unticked the 'backup to google' option in the beginning as I didn't want it downloading all the apps. my Rerware MyBackup Pro restored the apps ok, but couldn't restore contacts etc - it just froze. I reverted to my TWRP backup of liquid and found a similar issue - I had blocked (or at least not unblocked) the ability of MyBackup pro to access contacts and the like so assume at the moment the backup was bad and hence why the app froze. Regardless, I'm surprised the contacts didn't come from Google cos I've never had to restore them in the passed.
I'll give it another go but it would be nice to fix the aroma issue first, so please advise. btw liquid smooth is kit kat based 4.4.2
Hey all! I'm building a ROM and was wondering what your thoughts were on speed and stability on CM vs AOSP. From my experience, CM is faster but not as stable, and AOSP isn't as fast but is stable.
Please vote and/or comment on your thoughts!
CM tends to have worse battery, in my experience
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Tanmaynarang said:
Hey all! I'm building a ROM and was wondering what your thoughts were on speed and stability on CM vs AOSP. From my experience, CM is faster but not as stable, and AOSP isn't as fast but is stable.
Please vote and/or comment on your thoughts!
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Here are my beliefs (anyone feel free to correct me):
AOSP is rock solid (usually). It's not the fastest, but that can be fixed. It lacks features.
CM on the other hand isn't the most solid base, but they're very good about fixing bugs. They've got (arguably) one of the largest developer teams working on an aftermarket firmware. They do have more features as well.
What you need to answer is this: How clean of a base do you want to start off with? Do you want to go for AOSP and market it as simple and close to stock with hand-picked features and optimizations? Or do you want to start off with a CM base, having features that are now nearly ubiquitously considered "necessary"?
Connor Baker
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CM tends to have worse battery, in my experience
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I've never experienced this, but I can see it happening because of the smaller range of kernels (since it's CAF).
Connor Baker said:
Here are my beliefs (anyone feel free to correct me):
AOSP is rock solid (usually). It's not the fastest, but that can be fixed. It lacks features.
CM on the other hand isn't the most solid base, but they're very good about fixing bugs. They've got (arguably) one of the largest developer teams working on an aftermarket firmware. They do have more features as well.
What you need to answer is this: How clean of a base do you want to start off with? Do you want to go for AOSP and market it as simple and close to stock with hand-picked features and optimizations? Or do you want to start off with a CM base, having features that are now nearly ubiquitously considered "necessary"?
Connor Baker
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Valid points, I see CyanogenMod being geared as much more developer friendly and extensible, they even have better documentation for AOSP's tools than AOSP does
I want the ROM to be stable and fast, but also ready for customization, where I see AOSP not being very extensible.
So speed and stability is democracy now?
Actually if you are building a ROM from source, you are better off starting with aosp and merging the caf patches then go from there. You can look at patch commits/gerrit to see how to add in the features that you want since the code is normally available to see and will give you what line and all. In the process, you have something to call your own and learn the coding structure and source which is invaluable
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cm, fast? lmao..
simms22 said:
cm, fast? lmao..
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Keep Preaching brotha! Lol
He is Right about CM
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Keep Preaching brotha! Lol
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The fact is that CM is starting to be real SLOW.
Go for AOSP based roms! Build with linaro? That's even faster.
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The fact is that CM is starting to be real SLOW.
Go for AOSP based roms! Build with linaro? That's even faster.
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cm was fast until about mid 2012. then they just started piling on as much as possible into the rom and it has been slower since. when steve(cyanogen) used to spend much time working on cm kernel, thats when cm was known for speed, back in the beginning and a little after cm started. back then, they werent about feature, more about minimalism. now its all about feature.
AOSP>CM
Always.
At any aspect.
CM has become so low and weak ROM since 2013. In the past it was the fastest and the most non-bull**** custom firmware but now as it's available for so many devices it's become sluggish, slow and the quality doesn't even exist. Another thing against CM is that they decided to use CAF code on Nexus devices. I can't understand it as well as other devs working in Nexus sections. I remember CM7 on my legendary HTC G2. It was so fast and damn feature-filled as for those times. Now it's gone. Formerly, my first thought on custom ROMs was CM, now it's quite different... I am so disappointed with CM nowadays.
Just my opinion tho ?
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The hell are people knocking caf code for??? It is aosp code with fixes for specific hardware by the people who actually make the hardware, wtf would you not use it for????
As far as cm fast, bwhahahahahaha, it hasn't been fast since about cm4 back on the g1/mytouch when dwang came into the picture. Cm's goal evolved to bleeding edge features and getting on as many devices as possible while dwang was straight aosp Roms with speed and stability as the goal
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If you own a nexus CyanogenMod is just as stable if not more so. Latest nightly is flawless.
I actually installed 30/6/2014 Nightly and seems faster to me in some areas, such as animation smoothness.
I was on PA 4.4 Final previously and hadn't touched CM11 for 3+ months.
Both were tested with latest Adreno drivers(June), same kernel, same kernel settings and the same Gapps; only the ROM changed.
Konstantinos said:
I actually installed 30/6/2014 Nightly and seems faster to me in some areas, such as animation smoothness.
I was on PA 4.4 Final previously and hadn't touched CM11 for 3+ months.
Both were tested with latest Adreno drivers(June), same kernel, same kernel settings and the same Gapps; only the ROM changed.
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faster than velocity?
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faster than velocity?
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Isn't Velocity the ROM that has ART by default? And lots of commits to ART. Still, ART is experimental in KitKat, so in the L release there will be lots of changes. I'd rather use something which doesn't have commits to something experimental(such as ART).
Also, I must note that Velocity has changed the animation to 0,75. This results as being "faster" (because of transition) but it's not. Try testing both @ 1.0 animation speed and see for yourself.
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Isn't Velocity the ROM that has ART by default? And lots of commits to ART. Still, ART is experimental in KitKat, so in the L release there will be lots of changes. I'd rather use something which doesn't have commits to something experimental(such as ART).
Also, I must note that Velocity has changed the animation to 0,75. This results as being "faster" (because of transition) but it's not. Try testing both @ 1.0 animation speed and see for yourself.
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A real test would be turning animations completely off and seeing what's faster. That's where real speed and optimisation can be noticed. 1.0 is just too damn slow.
Konstantinos said:
I actually installed 30/6/2014 Nightly and seems faster to me in some areas, such as animation smoothness.
I was on PA 4.4 Final previously and hadn't touched CM11 for 3+ months.
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Try stock AOSP, way faster than PA.
I've got 2 nexus 4s so I can do nexus 4 vs nexus 4. Nothing beats stock jellybean.
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calyxim said:
Try stock AOSP, way faster than PA.
I've got 2 nexus 4s so I can do nexus 4 vs nexus 4. Nothing beats stock jellybean.
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stock jellybean??? kitkat??
I'm stock unrooted on my n5 so far, running art and no animations. Feels blazingly fast to me. I miss custom Roms for the themes and a couple features they usually include but other than that stock has been almost 100% stable even with art.
I reboot it once every week or two and saw one soft reboot the other day in the couple months I've had it, not sure what caused it.
Still trying to decide if its worth rooting and what ROM to run. I like art which rules out stock with xposed.
I've been a chronic ROM flasher on every phone I've had until this one. It just works so good I'm afraid to mess with it. Especially when I've got warranty.
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