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got this in my email couple hours ago...people who subscribe to ZDNET alrdy should know about this...
ZDNet Tech Report said:
Windows Mobile 7 phones in Q1 2009?
Mary Jo Foley: According to a report from at least one
major handset maker, Microsoft is planning to make available
the final bits of its next mobile OS release in time for them to
start selling Windows Mobile 7 phones by Q1 2009
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Updated specifics from PCmagazine and ZDNET on WM7
1) Microsoft's own Ftouchflo "style" technology that will rival the iphones...(no more icontacts,HTC album, or FtoucfloSL or what ever the hell pay to play version their at now..just simple thumb gesture flipping through every application that ships or is made available 3rd party for the device.
2) Skyfre shipping with the new OS WM7 instead of PIE (PIE might be an optional download for the faithful)...thats if microsoft is smart enough to realize deepfish will not be able to compete with skyfire in the new browser war which is simply known as "the flash browser". Skyfire is alrdy about to be on its second beta version and looks rock solid from visual appeal to simply being able to watch youtube on the browser (you get the option of full screen mode instead of watching only on the browser of course, i should be getting my second invite for beta 2 by end of summer and will update more about the browser) Bye Bye TCMP/ Coreplayer!! So unless Microsoft starts having their engineers and OS technicians begin work on putting flash and java built into their deepfish browser by the first quarter of 2009 and out of beta, Skyfire is going to be the #1 selling internet browser of 2009. But theres also the other possibilities of the new firefox for PPC browser out of beta by Q1 and Opera browser 10 supposedly with java and flash as well... There were also rumors on ZDnet that apple was possibley going to license iphone's safari to microsoft (for a hefty sum) which i doubt Gates will want to bow down to 'ol stevey boy for. So thats that...should be an interesting late 2008 and i hope alot of you will closely be watching what is going to happen next with our future OS.
As for me....I'm as giddy as an 1800's English school boy!!!
got this in my email couple hours ago...people who subscribe to ZDNET alrdy should know about this...
ZDNet Tech Report said:
Windows Mobile 7 phones in Q1 2009?
Mary Jo Foley: According to a report from at least one
major handset maker, Microsoft is planning to make available
the final bits of its next mobile OS release in time for them to
start selling Windows Mobile 7 phones by Q1 2009
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Updated specifics from PCmagazine and ZDNET on WM7
1) Microsoft's own Ftouchflo "style" technology that will rival the iphones...(no more icontacts,HTC album, or FtoucfloSL or what ever the hell pay to play version their at now..just simple thumb gesture flipping through every application that ships or is made available 3rd party for the device.
2) Skyfre shipping with the new OS WM7 instead of PIE (PIE might be an optional download for the faithful)...thats if microsoft is smart enough to realize deepfish will not be able to compete with skyfire in the new browser war which is simply known as "the flash browser". Skyfire is alrdy about to be on its second beta version and looks rock solid from visual appeal to simply being able to watch youtube on the browser (you get the option of full screen mode instead of watching only on the browser of course, i should be getting my second invite for beta 2 by end of summer and will update more about the browser) Bye Bye TCMP/ Coreplayer!! So unless Microsoft starts having their engineers and OS technicians begin work on putting flash and java built into their deepfish browser by the first quarter of 2009 and out of beta, Skyfire is going to be the #1 selling internet browser of 2009. But theres also the other possibilities of the new firefox for PPC browser out of beta by Q1 and Opera browser 10 supposedly with java and flash as well... There were also rumors on ZDnet that apple was possibley going to license iphone's safari to microsoft (for a hefty sum) which i doubt Gates will want to bow down to 'ol stevey boy for. So thats that...should be an interesting late 2008 and i hope alot of you will closely be watching what is going to happen next with our future OS.
As for me....I'm as giddy as an 1800's English school boy!!!
SkyFire kinda blows!
Look skyfire is nice and all, personally I find it a big sluggish but the sudo flash support is nice. But its a mute point, Microsoft has licensed flash to go in PIE or what ever browser they are putting in WM7 and it will be decoded and ran locally on the device.
moegdaog said:
got this in my email couple hours ago...people who subscribe to ZDNET alrdy should know about this...
Updated specifics from PCmagazine and ZDNET on WM7
1) Microsoft's own Ftouchflo "style" technology that will rival the iphones...(no more icontacts,HTC album, or FtoucfloSL or what ever the hell pay to play version their at now..just simple thumb gesture flipping through every application that ships or is made available 3rd party for the device.
2) Skyfre shipping with the new OS WM7 instead of PIE (PIE might be an optional download for the faithful)...thats if microsoft is smart enough to realize deepfish will not be able to compete with skyfire in the new browser war which is simply known as "the flash browser". Skyfire is alrdy about to be on its second beta version and looks rock solid from visual appeal to simply being able to watch youtube on the browser (you get the option of full screen mode instead of watching only on the browser of course, i should be getting my second invite for beta 2 by end of summer and will update more about the browser) Bye Bye TCMP/ Coreplayer!! So unless Microsoft starts having their engineers and OS technicians begin work on putting flash and java built into their deepfish browser by the first quarter of 2009 and out of beta, Skyfire is going to be the #1 selling internet browser of 2009. But theres also the other possibilities of the new firefox for PPC browser out of beta by Q1 and Opera browser 10 supposedly with java and flash as well... There were also rumors on ZDnet that apple was possibley going to license iphone's safari to microsoft (for a hefty sum) which i doubt Gates will want to bow down to 'ol stevey boy for. So thats that...should be an interesting late 2008 and i hope alot of you will closely be watching what is going to happen next with our future OS.
As for me....I'm as giddy as an 1800's English school boy!!!
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I sincerly hope that the skyfire is much better than the version I've been using.. its a resource hog and all data is available to the servers admins...
man i could give two ****z if skyfire admins get to know that im viewing...yahoo email, xda developers (if anything its publity for xda developers) Allhiphop.com, ESPN.COM, CBS/CNN/reuters news etc...etc..etc..for the sheer fact that i get an incredible flash and java embeded PDA B-R-O-W-S-E-R! its unreal how technology keeps surprising me daily, the meer thought of watcing youtube on a mini browser on a mini labtop phone which is my kaiser is genius and should be welcomed with open arms. I cringe when i think about the times i actually used to download flash player 7 and those other useless flash apps from adobe for no apparent reason because those apps did absolutely nothing. Skyfire is gonna be revolutionary...whats next? anything a desktop or labtop can do our PDA's are going to be able to do it sooner or later. Instead of computer/labtop shopping,c onsumers will be pocketpc/phone shopping...why not? a phone that is also your computer in miniature form? unreal...i cant wait..were almost their brother.
I agree with the dude above me. Skyfire is the best browser I have used. It is brand new and still in testing but it is going to surpass opera. I have it on my phone right now and it's crazy. As for the Update. I won't flash the upgrade on my phone. I'll just wait for a better cooked version. Patience is a virtue people. I'll wait till most of the bugs are worked out by the Cooks.
divineholiness said:
Look skyfire is nice and all, personally I find it a big sluggish but the sudo flash support is nice. But its a mute point, Microsoft has licensed flash to go in PIE or what ever browser they are putting in WM7 and it will be decoded and ran locally on the device.
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Well its deffinetly not going to be PIE anymore with WM7....Microsoft has been testing and releasing beta's to be tested by "testers" for almost a year now for deepfish. The deepfish that i tested during the beta trials did not..and i mean did not have any sort of flash or java support. Although it was significantly better then PIE in terms of zooming features and touch rendering withs crolling through pages like how most mobile browsers are having now. This platform or standard was set by the iphones safari..so microsoft will atleast have a browser for WM7 that will mimic safari, wether they will keep the PIE name going to introduce the deepfish brand name is not completly sure but it will rival safari in all aspects. If they are smart, they will up the stakes and go with skyfire as their default browser because of the sheer uproar and anticipation skyfire has been arrowsing in the pocketpc/mobile world....plain and simple because if they dont skyfire's official browser launch will fly off the shelves and Microsoft's monopoly on their internet browser will be in jeopardy since this is not like their desktop OS domination. The ability of 3rd party software that Windows mobile is so great at will eventually hurt them in the browser department..deepfish or PIE will be obsolete. Especially if skyfire's offcial browser drops before WM7 hits the market.
Skyfire will never be the default browser, for the simple reason that I and plenty of other people do care that everything we look at is passing through some third party server. It's not even a browser, just some kind of thin client. If you like it that's fine, use it, but bear in mind it's destined to be an optional pay/ad-funded service, not a built-in feature of WM7.
MS have already stated they're at work on a full port of IE for WM, with a full desktop browsing experience - and they're not talking about Deepfish either.
Boinng said:
Skyfire will never be the default browser, for the simple reason that I and plenty of other people do care that everything we look at is passing through some third party server. It's not even a browser, just some kind of thin client. If you like it that's fine, use it, but bear in mind it's destined to be an optional pay/ad-funded service, not a built-in feature of WM7.
MS have already stated they're at work on a full port of IE for WM, with a full desktop browsing experience - and they're not talking about Deepfish either.
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yea well evryone is intitled to their own opinions but what makes yout hink microsoft is going to continue PIE? i mean dont get me wrong i use it faithful..yea it has its qwerks and tab problems but im usedto the browser and i dont like opera, netfront or piscel browser..there all unfinished worksw ith problems...especially deepfish...but why would microsoft go to such great lengths to prmote this depfish, get a beta version out to the public to give feedback if it wasnt goin to be incorporated into the WM7 software. I mean deepfish was created to rival safari ina nutshell, and i can gurantee you it will be the new windows mobile browser...not PIE..If PIE were to get upgraded....new look,zoom features and touch' scrolling then that would be differnt but there hasnt been any such word that PIE is getting revamped, and the deepfish site is still alive and well. I have the deepfish .cab in my microsd card...if its not wrong to post this download then ill put it out here for some people to check it out and see what they think of itf or themselves...its still in beta and you can barely surf the web but the zoomin has potential..a beta 2 should deff. be in the works for microsoft
yea gq just wait for your provider to drop their revised version of 6.1...im on WM6 also..and i love it and i see no need to upgrade it at all even if t-mobile my carrier drops the upgrade. 6.0 has no problems from what i see and experienced for the past 4 months now that ive had the tilt. And every other thread i see in the kaisers general or software section is something about how an app wont work in 6.1...thats ridiculous, especialy since HTC themselves droped a rom.
anywayz.....boing
Boinng said:
Skyfire will never be the default browser, for the simple reason that I and plenty of other people do care that everything we look at is passing through some third party server. It's not even a browser, just some kind of thin client. If you like it that's fine, use it, but bear in mind it's destined to be an optional pay/ad-funded service, not a built-in feature of WM7.
MS have already stated they're at work on a full port of IE for WM, with a full desktop browsing experience - and they're not talking about Deepfish either.
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yea well evryone is entitled to their own opinions but what makes yout hink microsoft is going to continue PIE? i mean dont get me wrong i use it faithful..yea it has its qwerks and tab problems but im usedto the browser and i dont like opera, netfront or piscel browser..there all unfinished worksw ith problems...especially deepfish...but why would microsoft go to such great lengths to prmote this depfish, get a beta version out to the public to give feedback if it wasnt goin to be incorporated into the WM7 software. I mean deepfish was created to rival safari ina nutshell, and i can gurantee you it will be the new windows mobile browser...not PIE..If PIE were to get upgraded....new look,zoom features and touch' scrolling then that would be differnt but there hasnt been any such word that PIE is getting revamped, and the deepfish site is still alive and well. I have the deepfish .cab in my microsd card...if its not wrong to post this download then ill put it out here for some people to check it out and see what they think of itf or themselves...its still in beta and you can barely surf the web but the zoomin has potential..a beta 2 should deff. be in the works for microsoft
Is there any news about improved connectivity with desktop PCs via a newer Activesync/WMDC? Thats the weak link of the current WM platform and the part that needs the most redevelopment. Never mind the flashier bits and bobs on the phone, for me that part does all I need it to at the moment (well would if it weren't for bugs in HTCs WM 6.1 'upgrade'). Its things like decent transfer speeds from the desktop PC that matter more to me.
Flying Kiwi said:
Is there any news about improved connectivity with desktop PCs via a newer Activesync/WMDC? Thats the weak link of the current WM platform and the part that needs the most redevelopment. Never mind the flashier bits and bobs on the phone, for me that part does all I need it to at the moment (well would if it weren't for bugs in HTCs WM 6.1 'upgrade'). Its things like decent transfer speeds from the desktop PC that matter more to me.
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USB 2 PPC!
moegdaog said:
got this in my email couple hours ago...people who subscribe to ZDNET alrdy should know about this...
Updated specifics from PCmagazine and ZDNET on WM7
1) Microsoft's own Ftouchflo "style" technology that will rival the iphones...(no more icontacts,HTC album, or FtoucfloSL or what ever the hell pay to play version their at now..just simple thumb gesture flipping through every application that ships or is made available 3rd party for the device.
2) Skyfre shipping with the new OS WM7 instead of PIE (PIE might be an optional download for the faithful)...thats if microsoft is smart enough to realize deepfish will not be able to compete with skyfire in the new browser war which is simply known as "the flash browser". Skyfire is alrdy about to be on its second beta version and looks rock solid from visual appeal to simply being able to watch youtube on the browser (you get the option of full screen mode instead of watching only on the browser of course, i should be getting my second invite for beta 2 by end of summer and will update more about the browser) Bye Bye TCMP/ Coreplayer!! So unless Microsoft starts having their engineers and OS technicians begin work on putting flash and java built into their deepfish browser by the first quarter of 2009 and out of beta, Skyfire is going to be the #1 selling internet browser of 2009. But theres also the other possibilities of the new firefox for PPC browser out of beta by Q1 and Opera browser 10 supposedly with java and flash as well... There were also rumors on ZDnet that apple was possibley going to license iphone's safari to microsoft (for a hefty sum) which i doubt Gates will want to bow down to 'ol stevey boy for. So thats that...should be an interesting late 2008 and i hope alot of you will closely be watching what is going to happen next with our future OS.
As for me....I'm as giddy as an 1800's English school boy!!!
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This release was planned almost a year ago, thanks for the memories, xda_tool
moegdaog said:
yea well evryone is entitled to their own opinions but what makes yout hink microsoft is going to continue PIE? i mean dont get me wrong i use it faithful..yea it has its qwerks and tab problems but im usedto the browser and i dont like opera, netfront or piscel browser..there all unfinished worksw ith problems...especially deepfish...but why would microsoft go to such great lengths to prmote this depfish, get a beta version out to the public to give feedback if it wasnt goin to be incorporated into the WM7 software. I mean deepfish was created to rival safari ina nutshell, and i can gurantee you it will be the new windows mobile browser...not PIE..If PIE were to get upgraded....new look,zoom features and touch' scrolling then that would be differnt but there hasnt been any such word that PIE is getting revamped, and the deepfish site is still alive and well. I have the deepfish .cab in my microsd card...if its not wrong to post this download then ill put it out here for some people to check it out and see what they think of itf or themselves...its still in beta and you can barely surf the web but the zoomin has potential..a beta 2 should deff. be in the works for microsoft
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Deepfish was a technology preview, no more and no less - I don't think it was ever even officially classed as "beta", let alone confirmed as any kind of real product. It was released well over a year ago and since then nothing - no more registrations for the preview, no user feedback ever posted on their feedback page, nada. It's history now.
MS have confirmed that PIE will continue to be improved and developed (as it was with the 6.1 update) and will be completely rebuilt shortly based on IE6 code to make it "desktop grade" - see here: http://www.modaco.com/content/windo...ing-to-windows-mobile-6-1-by-the-end-of-2008/
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Thats the thing because the slow transfer speeds are not due to USB bus transfer rate limitations but bottlenecks associated with going through the phones hardware and activesync/WDCM. Have you ever tried transferring a large file directly to your microSD card using it's reader and then tried the same test with the card in the phone using activesync - if so, you'll know what I'm getting at (it's many times slower via activesync even when the card reader and phone are both plugged into the same USB port). The TyTN II is already a USB 2.0 device (but only Full Speed not Hi Speed).
Skyfire sucks because of no word wrap, and loading websites when zooming in.
I still find Opera Mini to be the best browser! Insta-loads the whole site, and word wraps perfectly!
I do beleive it will be IE in the new OS's - alphas of the new IE have been shown - if memory serves me correctly, its based on the windows IE6 core rather than PIE, and has full zooming support.
Now whatever your opinion of IE, you must admit IE is preferable to Safari 90% of the time and you are pretty much guaranteed it will display everything perfectly. Obviously we'd prefer the IE7/IE8 cores, but its deffo a step in the right direction. the concept of MS using any browser than IE is somewhat hard to beleive, and to consider that theyd use a browser that has a desktop equivilent is like admitting theyve lost the browser war - its not gonna happen - so that really discounts minimo and opera (as nice as opera is on the mobile)
I cant find the link to the video i saw of winmo ie6 to back up my statements, i think it was on modaco, but i assume you, i didnt dream it!
oh, typical, i finally hit the post button, and i find it!
http://www.modaco.com/content/windo...ing-to-windows-mobile-6-1-by-the-end-of-2008/
There is a video and a screenshot of it actually working within that post - so this isnt stuff pulled out of the air... plus its shown running on a universal - so that means we could well get this cooked in other roms too. HAZAA!
Duplicate threads merged.
Deepfish isn't just a browser
I don't think moegdaog get its, I don't think deepfish was ever a browser replacement but a interface idea, that has html able. Also Skyfire sucks, its just a go between until we have full flash support on the device locally.
is anyone able to port Iphone games to android?
I´m referring to the game called godville it´s a free game.
i'm looking forward to VillageSim that i was playing with when using Palm and WM
Most of the time, not easily.. Almost all iPhone games/apps are written in Objective C, but Android is mostly Dalvik (which is Java-Like). Apple used to ban the creation of apps which didn't use their development suite too.
You could speak to the developer, but it probably needs nothing less than a rewrite..
andrewluecke said:
Most of the time, not easily.. Almost all iPhone games/apps are written in Objective C, but Android is mostly Dalvik (which is Java-Like). Apple used to ban the creation of apps which didn't use their development suite too.
You could speak to the developer, but it probably needs nothing less than a rewrite..
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damn, well ive written the developer
Godville isn't an iPhone game, it is a web game with a fully functioning iPhone client.
There is a monitoring app for Android, but it isn't all that great. I find the information to be out-of-date, and you have to launch a browser to take any actions in the game.
So instead of trying to port the iphone client to android, we should be asking if there is a developer that would write an android app, using the Godville API
just started playing godville, and came across this thread. Just so you know there is actually a full app on android that is very similar to the one for iphone, but in Russian... and just wondering if anyone thats fluent in russian can translate or somehow make an english version of it??
here's the link: http://www.appbrain.com/app/годвилль/ru.godville.android
Well we all are having few difficulties and wish list for after mango.
So if we add them here again in one place then DFT people can actually know whats the best thing people need badly right now.
for me these few are missing badly:
1) a full features google maps.
2)skype (for godsake atleast an app? IM just sucks after mango!)
3)wireless keyboard( bluetooth )
4) connect my laptop and phone via ad hoc network
5)find on page in IE9.
6)flash ( i dont think its gonna come)
7)a full features android i know is gonna come soon after awesome work of DFT guys but yet a time frame can be much more helpful.
8)If there are a bunch of developers want to make some windows phone games then let me know i am thinking to heed in that direction.
9)connect phone via HDMI cable to any Television screen ( i am on HD7)
i want outlook offline sync like with winmo 6.5
I wish everybody would get off the "I want Android" crap! Go get an HD2 if you can't live without Android! Why did u buy a WP7 if u are just an Android fanboy?
Sent from my HD7 T9292 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
jwalk74 said:
I wish everybody would get off the "I want Android" crap! Go get an HD2 if you can't live without Android! Why did u buy a WP7 if u are just an Android fanboy?
Sent from my HD7 T9292 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
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hummm let me tell you why.
On the hardware part HD2 AND HD7 are similar but still there are some features and a kickass stand which makes HD7 a better choice.
WP7 is damn good but at the end its a new OS so it still lacks some of the basic features like skype and flash which are easily available in android.
so if you have the freedom to dual boot it the WP7 can work as primary and whenever you are going to get some things off the shelf you can switch to Android.
Build quality of HD2 is not upto the mark compared to the HD7.
So tell me one reason why android should not be there in a WP7 phone?
hardik_hrc said:
hummm let me tell you why.
On the hardware part HD2 AND HD7 are similar but still there are some features and a kickass stand which makes HD7 a better choice.
WP7 is damn good but at the end its a new OS so it still lacks some of the basic features like skype and flash which are easily available in android.
so if you have the freedom to dual boot it the WP7 can work as primary and whenever you are going to get some things off the shelf you can switch to Android.
Build quality of HD2 is not upto the mark compared to the HD7.
So tell me one reason why android should not be there in a WP7 phone?
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Android should not be on a WP7 phone as its a windows phone, if you want an android phone, just go and buy one, get a case with a kick stand on it and jobs done.
on another not, the google maps thing you mentioned, thats not down to microsoft, thats down to google not providing it. once again you could just get an android phone and be done with it.
I got both and have both as each have advantages over each other. my sim is generally in my android at the moment as it seems more logical, i can tether it to my windows phone and play my xbl games and download music and do what i want with my windows phone. and for the rare instances that i actually make a phone call, use my android handset.
oh and build quality, much better on hd2, made out of metal body rather than plastic, and better buttons too. not that the hd7 isnt bad but the hd2 was one of the best ive seen for a long time
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Android should not be on a WP7 phone as its a windows phone, if you want an android phone, just go and buy one, get a case with a kick stand on it and jobs done.
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to my knowledge you are using an HD2 with android build.
You are against porting android on a WP7 phone but at the end you are using android on a windows mobile.
if you wanted android why did you buy HD2 in the first place?
i think now you get my point that its always better to have choices.
See i dint start this thread for this android battle as i mentioned i started so that DFT guys know whats hot and they can work on that in the first place in their custom ROMs.
So if you want me to say android shouldnt be there OK YOU WIN!! but atleast stick to the topic.
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it still lacks some of the basic features like skype and flash
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Since when are skype/flash support basic features of any phone?
whats the point of a smartphone if it cannot give me one complete on the Go web experience?
For current scenario Flash atleast for next few years is necessary for uninterrupted web experience.
and skype is ofcourse gonna be a basic function!
you not discussing about the 10$ phones so obviously you CANNOT list calculator and making call as basic function!!
and seems one controversy ends and the other starts!
I mentioned earlier this thread was started with intention to help DFT team to help understand user needs not to fight.
if you still wanna go on then send me a message and we fight on it instead of here.
hardik_hrc said:
Well we all are having few difficulties and wish list for after mango.
So if we add them here again in one place then DFT people can actually know whats the best thing people need badly right now.
for me these few are missing badly:
1) a full features google maps.
2)skype (for godsake atleast an app? IM just sucks after mango!)
3)wireless keyboard( bluetooth )
4) connect my laptop and phone via ad hoc network
5)find on page in IE9.
6)flash ( i dont think its gonna come)
7)a full features android i know is gonna come soon after awesome work of DFT guys but yet a time frame can be much more helpful.
8)If there are a bunch of developers want to make some windows phone games then let me know i am thinking to heed in that direction.
9)connect phone via HDMI cable to any Television screen ( i am on HD7)
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1] They seem to have made serious improvements on the Bing Maps so hopefully it will improve more and more once they integrate it with Nokia Maps or so I have heard.
2] Skype is definitely coming to WP7
Facebook built in Chat in Messaging App is super brilliant and so is local scout.
To be honest I can't decide whether to use my HD7 or SGS2 .. I seem to keep flipin between them all the time.
The only reason I favour the SGS2 is cause of the better camera and googleplus and of course the apps
Other not sure But I for one will definitely getting a Nokia Phone, cause I am sure Nokia Phones will Rock
hardik_hrc said:
Well we all are having few difficulties and wish list for after mango.
So if we add them here again in one place then DFT people can actually know whats the best thing people need badly right now.
for me these few are missing badly:
1) a full features google maps.
2)skype (for godsake atleast an app? IM just sucks after mango!)
3)wireless keyboard( bluetooth )
4) connect my laptop and phone via ad hoc network
5)find on page in IE9.
6)flash ( i dont think its gonna come)
7)a full features android i know is gonna come soon after awesome work of DFT guys but yet a time frame can be much more helpful.
8)If there are a bunch of developers want to make some windows phone games then let me know i am thinking to heed in that direction.
9)connect phone via HDMI cable to any Television screen ( i am on HD7)
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1. Once OVI Maps gets intergrated with Bing Maps you can keep Google Maps.
2. You do know that Microsoft owns Skype? Skype will be on Windows Phone. Oh, IM on mango is excellent.
3. What does this have to do with Mango?
4. In Mango, up to carrier to allow it.
5. Agreed and said to be coming.
6. HTML5 is the future. Screw flash.
7. again, what does this have to do with mango?
8. Plenty of good games on windows phone with more to come.
9. Will be a feature on some 2nd gen handsets.
'nuff said.
I just read about the new chromebook coming out and though since it is about the same price as a N7, i pre-ordered one.
http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-XE303...92074&t=asinref-20&sr=1-1&keywords=B009LL9VDG
can someone familiar with chromeos tell me if this is something meant to be use together with a N7 or something totally different?
I had the first chromebook that they gave away for free and gave it away before i get to play around with it
Looks pretty cool. Definitely interested in your review.
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The price is pretty similar because it's using an ARM chip (Samsung Exynos), and therefore much cheaper to produce than the x86 predecessors. However, you lose some of the fancy sensors, and, like the other Chromebooks before it, very few services on it operate without an internet connection.
A Chromebook is basically a laptop that runs just the Chrome web browser. It's great for Google Docs editing and super fast when you have a good internet connection, but pretty mediocre for games, music, movies, or reading. You could pair it with a Nexus 7 and get the best of both worlds essentially, but on the whole they don't really integrate with each other. It's basically the same level of integration you already get with having Chrome installed on a desktop; if it's not already stored on Google's servers via Drive, Music, Play store, etc., you won't get (easy) access to it from your browser.
Also, Netflix doesn't work yet on ARM-based Chromebooks, which could be a deal-breaker for some people. It will probably be rebuilt for ARM at some point, just not right now.
Best thing you can do is try to get Android on it. That way it's the keyboard-version of your N7.
Try and get a Linux distro on it.
You can try it out for yourself using your current PC on a memory stick http://lifehacker.com/5820358/how-to-turn-your-netbook-into-a-chromebook-with-chromium-os
This way you can see for yourself , I put it on my laptop the other night just to see what its all about, I'm sure the version you get with your chrome book will be a bit more polished, it does feel a bit like a beta but still fun to play about with
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Word of warning though ... I used my 32gb SD card and windows image writer corrupted the card and it now reads as 1gb!! ( still works) So use one you don't need or care about, if anyone knows how to fix it I'm all ears!?!
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You can try it out for yourself using your current PC on a memory stick http://lifehacker.com/5820358/how-to-turn-your-netbook-into-a-chromebook-with-chromium-os
This way you can see for yourself , I put it on my laptop the other night just to see what its all about, I'm sure the version you get with your chrome book will be a bit more polished, it does feel a bit like a beta but still fun to play about with
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Word of warning though ... I used my 32gb SD card and windows image writer corrupted the card and it now reads as 1gb!! ( still works) So use one you don't need or care about, if anyone knows how to fix it I'm all ears!?!
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Format the card lol
Got a Samsung chrome book in our house, persuaded my aging folks to go for it for emails docs net surfing booking holidsys and the such. Zero maintainance and easy to use. Not very XDA!
Tbh great devices, v long battery quick at browsing, v quick boot or resume. These new ones should be better and are cheaper too. Depends on your use/user. No good for games and apps really, for the online world excellent. YouTube etc. on the Samsung works great at 720p.
i barely use my laptop as can use the chromebook and nowadays hardly use that due to my N7...
I dont see how the two 'combine' particularly, ones a touchscreen tab one is a laptop-lite.
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Ugh.
Just got my shiny new 920 a few days back. What a beauty she is. Tested out the camera/vid function (which was one of my primary reasons for upgrading my Atrix to this) and it was just as advertised.
Then I immediately hop onto one of my favorite websites. To be greeted with the dreaded blank video box. No biggie, right? Just head over to the apps store like my old android and download...end of problem. Wrong.
So digging deeper, it appears Windows Mobile 8 may never, ever get a flash driver, even in future releases. This irks me to no end. Over in the android world, there are numerous workarounds which allow you to view any website in its entirety, while taking advantage of the phones' improved hardware. But looks like Microsoft is pretty adamant in its course to not only withhold flash in all future releases, but PREVENT its users from implementing it.
The odd thing is, there are like 2 apps in the store that will actually somehow play flash streams from a list of predefined websites...but do not work on other, user selected websites. So there 'has' to be a workaround here, since it appears there is limited success?
My question is: since I have 14 days to return this thing to att for an exchange, does anyone on here foresee flash functionality hitting win mobile 8 as a fully functioning hack similar to android in the not-too-distant future? Or am I holding out hopes for an absolute lost cause?
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I don't think you'll find flash support being added, it's all changing to html5, I think that's the right term, even on newer androids now flash support has been dropped.
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I don't think you'll find flash support being added, it's all changing to html5, I think that's the right term, even on newer androids now flash support has been dropped.
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Thanks much for the reply
Oh, I am not questioning Adobe's stance on the matter regarding phasing out support for all mobile devices.
However, fact remains that the Android OS still has full flash support available from 3rd party hacks or apks (even for the latest android devices), while it seems like basically nothing is available for Windows 8. It probably has a lot to do with the less users on this platform, and how amazingly tough Microsoft has made it to root or customize their platform.
I know the shift in the future will be towards html5, but that still does not discount the fact that majority of the websites (especially ones that are not huge or particularly mainstream) are currently on flash and will be on flash for awhile. And users not being able to visit and enjoy the content 'they' want seems to be yet another form of limiting and censorship that I do not particularly agree with.
Oh, and I don't buy the vulnerability excuse either. Your have a better chance of getting a virus through an email. So does that mean emailing should be eliminated altogether? It's all about the user visiting/opening trusted sites and being educated.
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seems like basically nothing is available for Windows 8
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Windows 8 has Flash support.
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fliplyricist1 said:
Windows Mobile 8 may never, ever get a flash driver, even in future releases.
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fliplyricist1 said:
win mobile 8 as a fully functioning hack
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What are "Windows Mobile 8" and "win mobile 8"?
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I don't think you'll find flash support being added, it's all changing to html5, I think that's the right term, even on newer androids now flash support has been dropped.
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Windows 8 has Flash support.
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What are "Windows Mobile 8" and "win mobile 8"?
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Windows phone 8. I think you know what I'm referring to, seeing what forum this is posted in. Sorry for the 'technicality.'
If you look at the statistics at the moment you will rather catch a bug through Flash, Adobe reader or some other Plugin than through the browser itself or an e-mail - at least you rarely have drive-by-downloads.
There won't be Flash in IE10 as the mobile version simply has no plugin-support whats-o-ever. The Flash support in those Apps seems to isolate the Video stream in a way customized for each website and then play that through the regular video capability - that's also why it won't work that way on all websites.
The only reason why the community is able to keep Flash alive for Android is that there actually is an implementation of Flash (albeit an old one) but there has never been one for WP7/WP8 so the basis for creating something like this is completely different.
In the end: you won't see Flash support on WP8 anytime soon and given that Flash is not actually a favorite of the development community I don't see people putting much effort into creating an alternative either.
Every time someone gripes about the lack of flash support I instantly assume they frequent porn sites on their phone.
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Every time someone gripes about the lack of flash support I instantly assume they frequent porn sites on their phone.
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Ah, the old "it doesn't matter to me, therefore it doesn't matter to you" stance. Whenever I see that I instantly assume you're a ****.
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Ah, the old "it doesn't matter to me, therefore it doesn't matter to you" stance. Whenever I see that I instantly assume you're a ****.
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Well, it's just that it's severely outdated and buggy stuff. The point of the higher quality operating systems is to eliminate those kind of problems so why introduce one yourself?
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Well, it's just that it's severely outdated and buggy stuff. The point of the higher quality operating systems is to eliminate those kind of problems so why introduce one yourself?
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I wouldn't argue with that (and neither would Adobe, clearly). And I also can't fault Microsoft for not including it in a new OS.
But. There is going to be a transition period where web sites transition away from Flash... and it's not going to happen overnight. There are still quite a few web sites that rely on Flash for proper operation (and no, I'm NOT talking about porn sites). So until the web at large catches up with the times, there is still a bit of a gap for users who can't display Flash. Some users may be affected by it, others not.
I just don't think it's fair to say Flash is useless and completely unnecessary right now - because that's really not the case. At the same time, buying a WP8 device and complaining about a lack of flash is a bit ignorant if nothing else.
I think adobe have already said they would no longer be supporting flash on any mobile devices. I read it here a while ago
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Every time someone gripes about the lack of flash support I instantly assume they frequent porn sites on their phone.
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Actually, some sites work perfectly on my HD7 and Lumia 810 ?....
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Tell me a site you use that requires flash and if you have tried there mobile site
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And for porn use youporn.com
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