So I was thinking about it, the Nexus 6 is nearing the end of it's line for updates, it was already confirmed to get Android N because there are developer preview for N released for the Shamu. Is this phone likely to get O in another year when that gets released? What do you guys think? It definitely has the specs I'm sure for it, but google may just choose to not do it officially. Out of all the Nexus phones, I REALLY like my 6! They never made one with a monster of a screen like this! Thoughts? Stay nerdy my friends.
Nobody knows, but probably. The Nexus 5 came out with Jellybean and it's getting N.
Matt4542 said:
Nobody knows, but probably. The Nexus 5 came out with Jellybean and it's getting N.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The N5 came out with KitKat...
OS updates: 24 months from date of release.
Security updates: 36 months from date of release OR 18 months from date of removal from the Play Store (whichever is longer).
The Nexus 6 will not get Android O, as it will be more than 24 months from the date of release. Of course, custom ROMs will mitigate that issue.
you watch.. it will.
Ignore
Matt4542 said:
Nobody knows, but probably. The Nexus 5 came out with Jellybean and it's getting N.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It was released with 4.4 kitkat, the rumor of it getting N MAY not be true however. I read a thing just today that just because there's a build in the works on the repo, doesn't mean it's final. The Nexus 4 had a build for I think it was KK or MM, but of course never actually got the update.
simms22 said:
you watch.. it will.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And Simms, I damn sure hope so! I LOVE MY N6 :angel: :angel: :angel: Dat screen size.
H4X0R46 said:
It was released with 4.4 kitkat, the rumor of it getting N MAY not be true however. I read a thing just today that just because there's a build in the works on the repo, doesn't mean it's final. The Nexus 4 had a build for I think it was KK or MM, but of course never actually got the update.
And Simms, I damn sure hope so! I LOVE MY N6 :angel: :angel: :angel: Dat screen size.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
While most likely unofficial (not Google Released) it will get it. The great thing about nexus devices, they only die when you let them. Well to a point of course.
Google has given their Nexus devices a span of two years. correct me if I'm wrong but they do major updates to a device for at least two years, and then security updates for 3. by that logic the Nexus 6 will sadly not see an official release of O. however with the beautiful thriving community of XDA on top of the fact that it's a Nexus, it will most definitely see an unofficial release.
Nexus 6 will not get android o the n is its last update
Sent from my 2013022 using XDA-Developers mobile app
---------- Post added at 05:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:17 PM ----------
Ya their will be its unofficial release
Sent from my 2013022 using XDA-Developers mobile app
nick (ATYCD) said:
Nexus 6 will not get android o the n is its last update
Sent from my 2013022 using XDA-Developers mobile app
---------- Post added at 05:18 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:17 PM ----------
Ya their will be its unofficial release
Sent from my 2013022 using XDA-Developers mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No one should care about official or not. That is the whole point of having a nexus. Hell I am betting there will be a 8.0 rom for it a day or 2 after it is released. Before even the new nexus devices are delivered.
Yaa android o will be a update for it
Sent from my Moto E using XDA-Developers mobile app
Lets be honest: who among us still uses a phone after 3 years or longer nowadays anyway as their main driver?
Its not about using the phowe for 3yr its about the update and in specs its a good choice moderate one
Sent from my 2013022 using XDA-Developers mobile app
gee2012 said:
Lets be honest: who among us still uses a phone after 3 years or longer nowadays anyway as their main driver?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Many people do. If you looked at most of the devices from the mod team you will find many keep their devices for about 4 years or so.
Learned long ago there is no point in updating alot. The hardware changes are minor at best.
gee2012 said:
Lets be honest: who among us still uses a phone after 3 years or longer nowadays anyway as their main driver?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The last time I kept a phone for more than 3 years was the original Nexus. Nothing out there now peaks my interest. Now that I'm used to the large screen, I can't go back to a 5.5 or smaller phone. I may actually keep my 6 for another 18 months unless Google introduces a new Nexus device with a large screen.
Is it likely there will be a new 6" Nexus in the next several years? 5.5 to 5.7 seems to be the upper limit for the high end phablets.
gee2012 said:
Lets be honest: who among us still uses a phone after 3 years or longer nowadays anyway as their main driver?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The rate of hardware advancement is slowing down dramatically. There is really nothing that you gain by buying new hardware compared to something like a Nexus 6. A very small boost in speed, and 64bit that doesn't do much for a phone (basically, its benefit is limited to crypto).
So do tell me why anybody would want to spend $500-$1000 on new hardware when it doesn't actually do anything useful for them?
---------- Post added at 02:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:47 PM ----------
Strephon Alkhalikoi said:
OS updates: 24 months from date of release.
Security updates: 36 months from date of release OR 18 months from date of removal from the Play Store (whichever is longer).
The Nexus 6 will not get Android O, as it will be more than 24 months from the date of release. Of course, custom ROMs will mitigate that issue.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just keep in mind that google didn't say that they will cut everybody off at those times, but rather that they only GUARANTEE updates until then. Seems to me that there remains a possibility of official full version updates for as long as providing them isn't overly burdensome.
---------- Post added at 02:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:50 PM ----------
zelendel said:
No one should care about official or not. That is the whole point of having a nexus. Hell I am betting there will be a 8.0 rom for it a day or 2 after it is released. Before even the new nexus devices are delivered.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, care about official or not works like this;
If you want to run code from a source that you trust, you will either run the official builds, or spin your own. No sane person will trust the binaries built by fly by night hacks from some random website (including something bigger like cyanogenmod, because the quality control on that is basically bullpoop).
So for trustworthy code, there are two sources. One of those two sources can be burdensome. Therefore YES, WE DO CARE if google continues with the builds.
Related
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/nexus-4-battery-shot-reveals-potential-quality-issues/
This does NOT look promising on top of the already established problems with the hard-/software Not amused.
Gotta love these threads complaining about softrware and hardware issues. The Galaxy Nexus is no charmer when it comes to hardware build quality. These are pre-release hardware phones, expect some issues...
But the biggest thing I have to say is that these phones are NOT running final release software. Has any review showed off the lock screen widgets? Have any showed on screen the multiple user switching of the Nexus 10? You can completely expect poor battery life and issues when running pre-release software. Google should have sent final release software and hardware, but it appears they are in a bit of a crunch to get this thing momentum prior to the holiday shopping season.
So before mentioning 'established problems with the hard-softrware issues' wait until final release is upon us.
I like how people assume just because it's not running final software that miraculously a software patch will make battery and performance go from crap to awesome. Like Google changed so much from 4.1 to 4.2 that performance and battery just dropped significantly? C'mon Also silly to think that Google would have this phone reviewed with bad software. I was all ready for this phone but am keeping my GS3 and waiting until next year. Stay hopeful for your patches though, you're gonna need them
altimax98 said:
Gotta love these threads complaining about softrware and hardware issues. The Galaxy Nexus is no charmer when it comes to hardware build quality. These are pre-release hardware phones, expect some issues...
But the biggest thing I have to say is that these phones are NOT running final release software. Has any review showed off the lock screen widgets? Have any showed on screen the multiple user switching of the Nexus 10? You can completely expect poor battery life and issues when running pre-release software. Google should have sent final release software and hardware, but it appears they are in a bit of a crunch to get this thing momentum prior to the holiday shopping season.
So before mentioning 'established problems with the hard-softrware issues' wait until final release is upon us.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
For real I haven't seen any reviews on the lock screen widgets But yet ready to crush to sweet phone My Gnexus just died last night I even tried omap flasher no dice, And no joke I snapped that ***** right in half.. Talk about build quality, UGH!! Went back to my xperia play :crying: For Now:good: So any reviews pictures from haters, Really doesn't affect my decision on getting this device...
altimax98 said:
Gotta love these threads complaining about softrware and hardware issues. The Galaxy Nexus is no charmer when it comes to hardware build quality. These are pre-release hardware phones, expect some issues...
But the biggest thing I have to say is that these phones are NOT running final release software. Has any review showed off the lock screen widgets? Have any showed on screen the multiple user switching of the Nexus 10? You can completely expect poor battery life and issues when running pre-release software. Google should have sent final release software and hardware, but it appears they are in a bit of a crunch to get this thing momentum prior to the holiday shopping season.
So before mentioning 'established problems with the hard-softrware issues' wait until final release is upon us.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
That article is solely about potential hardware issues. Hardware is not likely to be changed since the phone goes on sale next week.
ferris2375 said:
I like how people assume just because it's not running final software that miraculously a software patch will make battery and performance go from crap to awesome. Like Google changed so much from 4.1 to 4.2 that performance and battery just dropped significantly? C'mon Also silly to think that Google would have this phone reviewed with bad software. I was all ready for this phone but am keeping my GS3 and waiting until next year. Stay hopeful for your patches though, you're gonna need them
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yep better to wait for GS4 With Exynos 5450
---------- Post added at 06:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:52 PM ----------
eep2378 said:
That article is solely about potential hardware issues. Hardware is not likely to be changed since the phone goes on sale next week.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
haha made by LG :silly::silly:
yahyoh said:
yep better to wait for GS4 With Exynos 5450
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe Samsung will document something useful by then
yahyoh said:
yep better to wait for GS4 With Exynos 5450
---------- Post added at 06:53 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:52 PM ----------
haha made by LG :silly::silly:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Drool. I still can't shake thinking about this damn Nexus 4, but extremely annoyed at the negative press and issues it has not even being released it.
eep2378 said:
Maybe Samsung will document something useful by then
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i really think nexus 10 with help a lot with exynos 5 development but i really hope sammy will do some documentation and release working platform source
like galaxy s1 and nexus s
yahyoh said:
i really think nexus 10 with help a lot with exynos 5 development but i really hope sammy will do some documentation and release working platform source
like galaxy s1 and nexus s
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't get your hopes up Here's some great reading about the issues CM maintainers have with Sammy https://plus.google.com/u/0/101093310520661581786/posts/cdPnNjLAb4F
He'll be updating this periodically.
yahyoh said:
yep better to wait for GS4 With Exynos 5450
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'm not sure about that, I had high expectations concerning the GS3 and it turned out to be a huge disappointment.
(less Ram compared to the GS2, what a joke).
Until Samsung releases proper documentation Exynos devices are not an option for me anyway.
For a budget device I really don't see this as a huge issue of course they had to make some shortcuts to get such a low sell price. I'm still planning on getting the n4 on release day.
Sure is a bit concerning seeing things like this even before release, but hopefully things will be improved upon down the line with revisions and whatnot. Shame, on the outside its such a beautiful device.
wurzelsepp3 said:
I'm not sure about that, I had high expectations concerning the GS3 and it turned out to be a huge disappointment.
(less Ram compared to the GS2, what a joke).
Until Samsung releases proper documentation Exynos devices are not an option for me anyway.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
with JB ram back to 833mb
Is that a review unit or a prerelease "With Google" version? Doesn't seem to say.
Wait for the device to come out guys. Wait for a proper teardown. Stop freaking.
AdamOutler is an awesome hacker but he is also a huge Samsung fanboy (like if it wasn't enough with the apple ones) so I take this article as a very biased opinion, I have a LG P500 since january 2011 and never had hardware issues or reception problems and of course I droped it several times.
altimax98 said:
Have any showed on screen the multiple user switching of the Nexus 10?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
On the N4 ? That's a tablet-only feature, for now at least.
Sent from my HTC Vision using xda premium
ferris2375 said:
I like how people assume just because it's not running final software that miraculously a software patch will make battery and performance go from crap to awesome. Like Google changed so much from 4.1 to 4.2 that performance and battery just dropped significantly? C'mon Also silly to think that Google would have this phone reviewed with bad software. I was all ready for this phone but am keeping my GS3 and waiting until next year. Stay hopeful for your patches though, you're gonna need them
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is it that hard to believe?
iPhone 4s: http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/...ne-4sios-5-battery-problem-promises-fix/15997
Galaxy S III: http://www.sammobile.com/2012/08/09/modem-update-galaxy-s-iii-fix-battery-drain//
Nokia Lumia 800: http://pocketnow.com/windows-phone/nokia-lumia-800-battery-issue-fixed-audio-and-camera-next
Apple recently released a patch to curb battery drain on their Macbooks too. I remember. I got the update a few months ago.
I believe the battery problems is purely software related and I expect that because android 4.2 is not finished yet and it will be finished and pushed out by the time the nexus products go up for purchase.
Not trying to be cheeky or anything, but do you have a picture of the snapped gnex? Sounds interesting.
On topic, I'm just glad the battery isn't soldered to something.
Sent from my Inspire 4G using xda app-developers app
Is it my imagination, or has the Nexus 7 gone the way of most Android devices? The development cycle is so tight that anything over a few months old gets cut loose and never sees another update. This seems like a rampant issue. My Galaxy Tab 10.1 will probably never see another update either, and definitely will never see JB. Tablets seem worse than phones too. Someone correct me if I'm way off base here. I completely understand how this has happened, but I don't have to like it. And I wonder how consumers can influence this situation. What is worse, the Nexus 7 has not been superseded by another product yet, and still the updates seem to have completely stopped. I must say that Apple is somewhat better about supporting it's hardware longer too.
What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
Pirateghost said:
What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
mntbighker said:
Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Past history with non-nexus devices!! LOL
What are you going on about? Nexus devices get updates faster than any other devices....and longer support than other devices.
What color are the clouds in your world?
Sent from my SGH-T989D using xda app-developers app
mntbighker said:
Not sure I believe we will ever see another OTA update on N7. And I would be disappointed to think that no bug fixes have been found since the last OTA. Then again I doubt anyone will ever push another update to a N7. It's now like my Galaxy Tab 10.1, it "works" so why fix it. By the time a new version worth pushing arrives, the N7 will be incapable of running it. Just my opinion based on past history.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The Nexus 7 is marketed and monitored directly by Google. As soon as Google releases another version of Android publicly (i.e., a stable release with less bugs), then you will be guaranteed to get it before any other device. This is one of the major benefits to owning a Nexus device.
In addition, just because bugs are identified and there may be a rumored fix with it, many good devs will continue to monitor their fix, test it, and see how it does; ensuring that the fix does not create a more bugs (in quantity and severity) than there were in a previous build.
Patience is a virtue. There's a reason why this saying is an aphorism.
Pirateghost said:
What updates are you expecting? There have been no newer versions of Android yet. Not really sure what updates there could be when nothing as been added to Android...
I mean come on, this is a damn Nexus device....it will get the next update...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
kj2112 said:
What color are the clouds in your world?
Sent from my SGH-T989D using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Apparently pretty dark :crying:
mntbighker said:
Apparently pretty dark :crying:
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Just....wow! Lol
Sent from my SGH-T989D using xda app-developers app
TheAltruistic said:
The Nexus 7 is marketed and monitored directly by Google. As soon as Google releases another version of Android publicly (i.e., a stable release with less bugs), then you will be guaranteed to get it before any other device. This is one of the major benefits to owning a Nexus device.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think the Nexus "8" will be out by then and the 7 will be deemed too anemic to run the newer software. As I said, it was just an observation of a phenomenon with the hardware development cycle we have with Android. And yes, the situation is way worse with non-Nexus devices. My Sprint HTC One is pretty buggy and the phones generally seem to all have bugs that may eventually get fixed. But more often than not they just move on to the next big thing and you just have to live with the bugs until you replace the phone and get a whole new list of bugs. You can ROM the phone and sacrifice features along with different bugs of course. Consumer demand has shaped things such that there are never resources to really get existing devices locked down and bug free. There is no incentive for developers to work on existing devices, but always to develop for the next thing going out the door. Apparently there is a known bug in my HTC One that has to do with an incorrectly located file directory causing horrible battery issues. Weeks or months go by with no OTA to fix it.
Google wants every OEM to support devices for at least 18 months, so you can bet that nexus devices will get at least that and probably longer. I'm about 99% sure that the Nexus 7 will get key lime pie at least.
Sent from XDA app
awesome....so you base all your knowledge of android on touchwiz and sense tainted devices....cool....but it doesnt work that way in nexus land.
I definitely think you should sell your n7 and get one of those awesome no name tabs everyone loves!! I'm sure they will be updated frequently and quickly!! I think some already have key lime pie!!
Just my advice.
Sent from my SGH-T989D using xda app-developers app
:facepalm: :banghead:
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
On top of there being nothing new in the world of android for the N7 to be updated to, I'm also curious on what "bugs" the op thinks need fixed?
I'm running latest rasbean on my phone and stock 4.2.2 on the 7 and have literally no bugs on either. Completely functional and stable (neither device has even been rebooted in almost 3 weeks).
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
There are bugs, fixes and new features in almost every release: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_version_history
Look at the release dates to determine if releases are frequent enough.
Sometimes preventing an OTA update to a Nexus 7 device can be the challenge. Lol!
(still running 4.1.2 on my N7)
I got a Windows Phone 7 and Windows 8 RT Surface so I can experience obsolescence instead of updates. LOL
My two Nexus 7, one Grouper and one Tilapia, will be merrily updated to every new version of Android. I can't wait for more *fragmentation* with the next Android release.
Sorry gotta go run with the low information crowd, there is a protest nearby. ...
Thread is silly. Sorry OP.
Nexus One - Released with 2.1, EOL with 2.3.6 (2010 - 2011)
Nexus S - Released with 2.3, EOL with 4.1 (2010 - 2012)
Galaxy Nexus - Released with 4.0, still supported
Nexus 4 - Released with 4.2, still supported
Nexus 7 - Released with 4.1, still supported
Nexus 10 - Released with 4.2, still supported
Every device has made it through a year's worth at the very least, and that's starting with the Nexus One. At the time when the Nexus One was released, phone hardware was changing almost faster than it is now, and it still got quite a run of updates.
Please do some research before whining. The Nexus 7 hasn't seen an update as of now because there's no update to see.
Pirateghost said:
awesome....so you base all your knowledge of android on touchwiz and sense tainted devices....cool....but it doesnt work that way in nexus land.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
mntbighker said:
I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Bad idea if current information is anything to go by. Google doesn't really seem to be doing altogether much more to support these two devices than it does for most-- it'll send the builds of Android as appropriate to the OEMs but it'll be up to them to actually tune everything.
mntbighker said:
I had a Galaxy Nexus as well. Actually, the phone I had with the least bugs by the time I traded "up" was probably the Droid X. The Droid X2 was god awful by comparison.
Do you count the Google HTC One and Google Galaxy S4 as "Nexus Land"?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your problem there is. Verizon.
No. The Google edition phones are not nexus devices.. At all.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus
Pirateghost said:
Your problem there is. Verizon.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well, now I have done a complete 180. I have a Sprint HTC One from Ting.com. My bill is a fourth what it was with Verizon or AT&T and I rely mostly on WiFi/VOIP service. Too bad the HTC One is so terrible at holding onto a WiFi signal. I may have to switch back to a Samsung device if Sprint can't resolve this. Ting does support the Galaxy Nexus, among other Samsung phones.
Around here Verizon does have the best coverage BY FAR though.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...osp-with-every-modification-since-kitkat-4-4/
OMG yes!
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
Yeaah babbyy! I guess the everyday updates of Google Apps is not just a coincidence?
Well, let's hope for the best!
So does the time of release of an update correlate to posting a changelog to AOSP? Like in the past how long has passed between changelog and update hitting 100% of phones? I am still assuming they are using IO to announce the release for some reason.
vin4yak said:
Yeaah babbyy! I guess the everyday updates of Google Apps is not just a coincidence?
Well, let's hope for the best!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Probably is coincidence since they've been updating each Google app multiple times for the past few weeks. Remember there's a tablet going to be released soon so that probably is why we've had so many app updates too.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
changelog said:
3903. eb4b198 Less noise on CAMCORDER audio recording source
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This looks interesting...
FuMMoD said:
Probably is coincidence since they've been updating each Google app multiple times for the past few weeks. Remember there's a tablet going to be released soon so that probably is why we've had so many app updates too.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You had to spoil the party, didn't you? (pun intended)
Well, you could be right here though! All we can do is wait :fingers-crossed:
I is excite.
Finally, never been on stock that long. Just see press 50 times a day software update.
Evo_Shift said:
So does the time of release of an update correlate to posting a changelog to AOSP? Like in the past how long has passed between changelog and update hitting 100% of phones? I am still assuming they are using IO to announce the release for some reason.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I think this KitKat update is coming before Google I/O conference in June. Remember, back in March, Android 4.4.3 was first rumored for mid-April. U.S carrier Sprint even jumped the gun and posted 4.4.3 OTA update promise "now" in mid-April, then sheepishly had to remove it from their public pages a week later. Of course we are now well into the month of May... Not sure why the delay, but I still think it's coming before I/O.
But I think 4.4.3 is minor bug squasher KitKat update that will come before the NEXT Android release with the Nexus 8 tablet announcement at the I/O conference in LATE June (June 25 - 26). Remember product "announcement" does not mean "release". Nexus 8 tablet and next version of Android will be announced at END of June, then will probably be released sometime in July.
Whatever is announced at end of June I/O will NOT show up before July. I just can't see this 4.4.3 waiting until JULY.
It's getting close to I/O ,the 4.4.3 ota is still not released....
发送自我的 Nexus 5 使用 Tapatalk
AidenLee1228 said:
It's getting close to I/O ,the 4.4.3 ota is still not released....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes, but 4.4.3 will still probably come before then (I/O is June 25) -- because whatever is ANNOUNCED at I/O will not be RELEASED until July. We are now in the first week of May. 4.4.3 could still be released next week as bug squasher update.
Then in late June at I/O, Nexus 8 tablet and next version of Android ANNOUNCED. Then in July Nexus 8 tablet ships with NEW version of Android, the one AFTER 4.4.3.
I just can't see Google waiting TWO MORE MONTHS to release a basic bug fix update. So far from the changelog, that's all 4.4.3 is. Surely with Nexus 8 tablet they will want at least a couple new features as selling points.
Also U.S. Sprint wouldn't have posted the 4.4.3 announcement page back in mid-April if the release wasn't imminent. Sure they jumped the gun, but they were apparently led to believe it was coming then. I still think it's coming before May is over, due to flurry of Google app updates.
Evo_Shift said:
So does the time of release of an update correlate to posting a changelog to AOSP?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
No, because Google never posted a changelog to AOSP before. While it is exciting, the changelog was posted 3 weeks ago and hardly means anything is imminent. Plus, the changelog is very flawed in that it shows all changes since 4.4 not the last release. It seems the posting to AOSP was an accident I would imagine.
AidenLee1228 said:
It's getting close to I/O ,the 4.4.3 ota is still not released....
发送自我的 Nexus 5 使用 Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You say
As post here. If you dig into the code as someone else did, sheds some light on possible future phone and tablets.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...ed-molly-appears-android-4-4-3-changelog.html
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using XDA Free mobile app
---------- Post added at 04:44 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:41 PM ----------
Duffmantp said:
As post here. If you dig into the code as someone else did, sheds some light on possible future phone and tablets.
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...ed-molly-appears-android-4-4-3-changelog.html
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337 using XDA Free mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Not what I wanted to post. I want to delete that post.
So the build that will supposedly be the release build was built on March 11? Dayum Google! 9 weeks of testing and counting for a freaking point release? You need to hire more QA people Google. What, are like 2 dudes responsible for testing the entire OS? The f...
ChazzMatt said:
Also U.S. Sprint wouldn't have posted the 4.4.3 announcement page back in mid-April if the release wasn't imminent. Sure they jumped the gun, but they were apparently led to believe it was coming then. I still think it's coming before May is over, due to flurry of Google app updates.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
When has sprint ever released anything on time or been a reliable source??
I'm sure most of us remember when the galaxy s3 came out waaayyy before their LTE/4g was ready. Just throwing that out there.
As for 4.4.3. All we can do is wait. Because it'll be dropped when we stop caring. Haha.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
travisd4est said:
When has sprint ever released anything on time or been a reliable source??
I'm sure most of us remember when the galaxy s3 came out waaayyy before their LTE/4g was ready. Just throwing that out there.
As for 4.4.3. All we can do is wait. Because it'll be dropped when we stop caring. Haha.
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh I don't know. It's not like Sprint RF engineers and testers have Spark enabled Nexus 5 running around for months which is explicitly included in the 4.4.3 update..
Fact is Google have to coordinate the rollout of 4.4.3 with their partners (carriers) to make sure the phone doesn't screw up anyones network. Google told the carriers (Sprint) that their update was ready and they're about the push it.
Sprint is notified and have confirmed that the update that is relevant for them (activation of band 26 / 41) is completed so they put the change log up. Google or one of the partners finds a problem and halts the rollout before it begin.
So now we all wait.
Did Google just take down the 4.4.3 changelog page? What the hell does that mean?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
CM-PRo said:
Did Google just take down the 4.4.3 changelog page? What the hell does that mean?
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA Premium 4 mobile app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yup I get the error 404
Hello my fellow Nexus 5 owners, lovers, we gather here for one request: Android N official for Nexus 5. There are many rumors that Marshmallow will be the last official Android version for Nexus 5. Marshmallow has been out for a while but the major release of Android N comes to fast. Nexus 5 in my opinion is still, the best Nexus phone. I'm not calling for lifetime support, only this version. Google gave us nearly no time enjoying official support, and immediately they take it from us. With all the love of Android, I ask everyone, to encourage Google to make the last official Android version, for the Nexus 5.
Matrixians 14 said:
Hello my fellow Nexus 5 owners, lovers, we gather here for one request: Android N official for Nexus 5. There are many rumors that Marshmallow will be the last official Android version for Nexus 5. Marshmallow has been out for a while but the major release of Android N comes to fast. Nexus 5 in my opinion is still, the best Nexus phone. I'm not calling for lifetime support, only this version. Google gave us nearly no time enjoying official support, and immediately they take it from us. With all the love of Android, I ask everyone, to encourage Google to make the last official Android version, for the Nexus 5.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oh come on... Another one..
Stop with wasting your time, Google doesn't care about how much people would like to have an official Android N release for their Nexus 5. They have given us the promised support time for Android updates, they owe us nothing. We already had that guy who started a petition which is pointless because Google probably won't even see it. So quit this BS and just keep your fingers crossed and hope for the best. You won't be able to make sure that Google will give the Nexus 5 just one more update, they may will or maybe not.
Matrixians 14 said:
Hello my fellow Nexus 5 owners, lovers, we gather here for one request: Android N official for Nexus 5. There are many rumors that Marshmallow will be the last official Android version for Nexus 5. Marshmallow has been out for a while but the major release of Android N comes to fast. Nexus 5 in my opinion is still, the best Nexus phone. I'm not calling for lifetime support, only this version. Google gave us nearly no time enjoying official support, and immediately they take it from us. With all the love of Android, I ask everyone, to encourage Google to make the last official Android version, for the Nexus 5.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Google gives every Nexus device 2 years of support on average. I wouldn't call that "nearly no time enjoying official support". They're unlikely to even consider a request to update a device that reached it's EOL for major updates almost a year ago. The unofficial development community for this device continues to thrive nevertheless, so you will most likely get an unofficial N build that's more than good enough for daily use.
This device had its time, but it EOL now. It'll still have unofficial updates for a foreseeable future, but if official updates matter more, then you'll need to move to a newer device. Personally, I don't really care too much about the support because if I did, I would have bought a N5X instead of the N5 a couple months back when I had the choice.
dont worry cm and aosp will not let us down , just keep the faith
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA-Developers mobile app
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Sent from my Nexus 5 using XDA-Developers mobile app
I'm going to wait and see what happens on the official updates front for Android N. Personally, I'd like to see it for the Nexus 5 but if it doesn't roll out for this phone right now, I'll probably be going to Cyanogenmod. That's what I'm running now because I cannot stand the Layers app. Prefer CM Themes to Layers.
Cindy
If Google provides Android N, they will feel obliged to support it with N bug fixes. This will force support for another six months as bugs are ironed out.
Why do you need to call Google? We have used our official support time which is 2-years. Also, do we need their official support? CM is with us.
Android N Preview 4 (NPD56N) for Nexus 5
See link - https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/hammerhead-kernel/+/android-n-preview-4
and - https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/hammerhead/+/android-n-preview-4
crisis_trustee said:
Android N Preview 4 (NPD56N) for Nexus 5
See link - https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/hammerhead-kernel/+/android-n-preview-4
and - https://android.googlesource.com/device/lge/hammerhead/+/android-n-preview-4
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
whoa!! is this correct?
did i just look at the posted kernel and image for android N for nexus 5 - hammerhead?
if this is indeed correct, maybe the nexus 5 - hammerhead will get android N then.
This was available for 2 weeks. N5 receives all the N-preview branches. Now'll be released one of two beta's, we'll see if some of source'll be available for our phones
edi194 said:
This was available for 2 weeks. N5 receives all the N-preview branches. Now'll be released one of two beta's, we'll see if some of source'll be available for our phones
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good news! :good:
Bad news. Developer prewiew 5 is out. N5 didn't receive it.
Отправлено с моего Nexus 5 через Tapatalk
N4 received final LP preview when Lollipop have nearly final stage? No. We need to wait one month more.
Ok, I definitely didn't post this. Someone might have used my Nexus 5 and post this. Even though it racks up quite a conversation for you guys, don't say I'm stupid whatsoever, cus it wasn't me! If you think it IS me, that's your business, and I don't care. I'm telling the truth.
Matrixians 14 said:
Ok, I definitely didn't post this. Someone might have used my Nexus 5 and post this. Even though it racks up quite a conversation for you guys, don't say I'm stupid whatsoever, cus it wasn't me! If you think it IS me, that's your business, and I don't care. I'm telling the truth.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nexus 5 and nexus 7 2013 are both dead I guarantee it. The nexus 4 and nexus 10 had enough power for marshmallow but they didn't get it. I expect the 2013 devices to get the ax this year. Gotta wonder though why everyone is so eager to hold on to the nexus 5? I mean I still have mine as an emergency backup phone but the battery life is gawd awful and camera is so mediocre compared to new phones. I'm rocking a 6p currently and it's world's ahead of the old 5!
---------- Post added at 12:23 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:22 AM ----------
Sorry didn't mean to quote you
Cor-master said:
Nexus 5 and nexus 7 2013 are both dead I guarantee it. The nexus 4 and nexus 10 had enough power for marshmallow but they didn't get it. I expect the 2013 devices to get the ax this year. Gotta wonder though why everyone is so eager to hold on to the nexus 5? I mean I still have mine as an emergency backup phone but the battery life is gawd awful and camera is so mediocre compared to new phones. I'm rocking a 6p currently and it's world's ahead of the old 5!
---------- Post added at 12:23 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:22 AM ----------
Sorry didn't mean to quote you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Maybe because with the improvements to Doze and background processing, the Nexus 5's battery life would see significant improvements?
Cor-master said:
Nexus 5 and nexus 7 2013 are both dead I guarantee it. The nexus 4 and nexus 10 had enough power for marshmallow but they didn't get it. I expect the 2013 devices to get the ax this year. Gotta wonder though why everyone is so eager to hold on to the nexus 5? I mean I still have mine as an emergency backup phone but the battery life is gawd awful and camera is so mediocre compared to new phones. I'm rocking a 6p currently and it's world's ahead of the old 5!
---------- Post added at 12:23 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:22 AM ----------
Sorry didn't mean to quote you
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Another one saying things they know nothing about. You can't guarantee anyone what you said. You know nothing for sure like everyone else.
Yes it will be very unlikely that the nexus get's one more update but it may will happen, there is a small chance.
Oh yeah it'll get it because you know the 2012 nexuses totally got marshmallow from Google last year /sarcasm.
When we can expext android P in our beloved Note 8❤
Probably in March or April.
I hope there will be a beta program though.
Or we can get a port of SX earlier? as galaxy 10 will be based on android P
RIPPER said:
When we can expext android P in our beloved Note 8❤
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Remember we just got Oreo so I would say not until the Note 10 is out. So over a year and that's pushing it.
---------- Post added at 09:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:32 PM ----------
Oreo came out to the public in August of 2017 we just got it that's almost a damn year after it came out. So Samsung is almost a year behind which is ridiculous. This is why I loved my Nexus phones but Google decided to go with the stupid Pixel brand of ugly phones.
jason504 said:
Remember we just got Oreo so I would say not until the Note 10 is out. So over a year and that's pushing it.
---------- Post added at 09:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:32 PM ----------
Oreo came out to the public in August of 2017 we just got it that's almost a damn year after it came out. So Samsung is almost a year behind which is ridiculous. This is why I loved my Nexus phones but Google decided to go with the stupid Pixel brand of ugly phones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
We can hope for a port on SX or note 9
RIPPER said:
We can hope for a port on SX or note 9
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Can you please explain to me what a port on SX or Note 9 means? I thought Google provided free Android through the AOSP. Why can't a developer develop a Note 8 from the raw AOSP code? Is it a too much work? If a port is code from SX or Note 9, does Samsung provide the source code, or does it have to be de-compiled from machine code?
I'm a newbie, and I'm just trying to understand where all this code comes from. I love custom ROMs and know how to install them, but I'm just trying to understand the infrastructure and where all this code comes from other than AOSP.
Huele Fello said:
Can you please explain to me what a port on SX or Note 9 means? I thought Google provided free Android through the AOSP. Why can't a developer develop a Note 8 from the raw AOSP code? Is it a too much work? If a port is code from SX or Note 9, does Samsung provide the source code, or does it have to be de-compiled from machine code?
I'm a newbie, and I'm just trying to understand where all this code comes from. I love custom ROMs and know how to install them, but I'm just trying to understand the infrastructure and where all this code comes from other than AOSP.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sharing you a link where you can understand about the custom rom and building process. Any one can build a rom but he/she have basic knowledge about. Snapdragon chipset are very easy to crack but exynos is hardwork that why we dont much development here plus feature may get reduce in note 8 as custom rom while dilute note 8 features.
Pls read
https://www.androidauthority.com/build-custom-android-rom-720453/
Ripper, you forgot to mention to Huele Fello that AOSP also wouldn't have Samsung's Touchwiz to make the almighty S-Pen work. The Bixby button on the side would also be dead, as well as the Iris scanner,
I guess in next 3 weeks max .
Mariusz_Trynkiewicz said:
I guess in next 3 weeks max .
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Definitely not in the next 3 weeks. I'm guessing maybe closer to April/May next year, but probably even later than that.
Max_Terrible said:
Definitely not in the next 3 weeks. I'm guessing maybe closer to April/May next year, but probably even later than that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am talking about another stuff . Treble was ported to note 8 ( its maybe not public relase but its real ) in sunday . All roms boot , and if i am not wrong , all roms are bugless? Dev is still working on it but soo it should be bugless soon if I am wrong. Try to mess with telegram some more . U'll find it
Mariusz_Trynkiewicz said:
I am talking about another stuff . Treble was ported to note 8 ( its maybe not public relase but its real ) in sunday . All roms boot , and if i am not wrong , all roms are bugless? Dev is still working on it but soo it should be bugless soon if I am wrong. Try to mess with telegram some more . U'll find it
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
And what is Treble going to help you in receiving the Pie update for the Note 8? Samsung doesn't officially support it on the Note 8, thus it's pointless. It might only help with custom ROMS with updates a little bit.
jason504 said:
Remember we just got Oreo so I would say not until the Note 10 is out. So over a year and that's pushing it.
---------- Post added at 09:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:32 PM ----------
Oreo came out to the public in August of 2017 we just got it that's almost a damn year after it came out. So Samsung is almost a year behind which is ridiculous. This is why I loved my Nexus phones but Google decided to go with the stupid Pixel brand of ugly phones.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Max_Terrible said:
Definitely not in the next 3 weeks. I'm guessing maybe closer to April/May next year, but probably even later than that.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Oreo was released to the Note 8 in March of 2018. Not sure why Jason504 thinks we just got it in August??
It would also stand to reason that Android Pie will be released in a similar time table as Oreo. Possibly sooner since Samsung is planning the rollout in January 2019.
I don't know exactly when I got Oreo but it definitely wasn't in March. It was way after that it was May or June when I got the update for my phone. One of the last companies to push the update. Samsung sells more phones than any company and are almost dead last at pushing out updates?