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I searched all over and found some similar threads, but after reading through all of them I'm still stuck and can't figure this out.
I have a 32GB Touchpad that I put CM9 Alpha .5 on, and it was working fine. Installed without a hitch. I went to flash Alpha 2, and it broke moboot - and now I have the android system on there, however I can't boot it, and I can't reflash it, which is the main problem.
When I go into recovery mode (vol up and power), and hook it up to my Windows 7 64 machine (or my 7 64 laptop, or my hackintosh OS X Lion - all with novacom drivers and whatnot) it shows up as Palm Novacom (bootie), but won't mount the USB drive so I can run ACMEInstaller2. I've tried reinstalling all the drivers, usb, novacom, etc, and even reset webOS with webdoctor. It still won't show up.
When I boot into webos and mount as disk drive, it shows up fine. I even took those drivers and replaced the palm bootie drivers with those, but that still didn't solve it. The few threads I found similar to this solved their problems by now, or it worked on another computer. I don't have easy access to other machines aside from those 3, and some friends Mac's that didn't work either. I rarely post when I run into a problem, always try to solve things on my own but I can't figure it out for the life of me. Just want to get CM9 back up and running!
Anyone have any other ideas? Greatly appreciated, thanks!
bone625 said:
I searched all over and found some similar threads, but after reading through all of them I'm still stuck and can't figure this out.
I have a 32GB Touchpad that I put CM9 Alpha .5 on, and it was working fine. Installed without a hitch. I went to flash Alpha 2, and it broke moboot - and now I have the android system on there, however I can't boot it, and I can't reflash it, which is the main problem.
When I go into recovery mode (vol up and power), and hook it up to my Windows 7 64 machine (or my 7 64 laptop, or my hackintosh OS X Lion - all with novacom drivers and whatnot) it shows up as Palm Novacom (bootie), but won't mount the USB drive so I can run ACMEInstaller2. I've tried reinstalling all the drivers, usb, novacom, etc, and even reset webOS with webdoctor. It still won't show up.
When I boot into webos and mount as disk drive, it shows up fine. I even took those drivers and replaced the palm bootie drivers with those, but that still didn't solve it. The few threads I found similar to this solved their problems by now, or it worked on another computer. I don't have easy access to other machines aside from those 3, and some friends Mac's that didn't work either. I rarely post when I run into a problem, always try to solve things on my own but I can't figure it out for the life of me. Just want to get CM9 back up and running!
Anyone have any other ideas? Greatly appreciated, thanks!
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Take a look at this thread. I think it could have information that could maybe help you.
forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1508572
Thanks, bah tried all that - the problem is mounting USB recovery, can't get into androidto test anything else. I'll have access to a few other computers this weekend so I"ll see if they can find it. Going to rewipe everything tonight as well, will update... pretty annoying.
I have an idea.
What you can try is to reboot into WebOS, mount the /media drive so you can copy files to it from Windows. On that media drive, there should still be a folder called cminstall. Copy the moboot install zip back into there, and then reboot the tablet into recovery (Power+VolUp). From there, run AcmeInstaller2 again, and you should be good to go - it'll run, and force an install of the contents of that /media/cminstall folder, which'll put Moboot back in place.
At least, that's what SHOULD happen. I'm no expert, but from what I've seen and played with, that should do what you're trying to achieve.
Thanks for trying.. Not exactly what it needed to be fixed though. I have everything ready to go in uninstall, the computer (any computer I've tried so far, and its been quite a few - that all used to read the touchpad in recovery mode) won't register it and mount it as a drive so I can run ACMEInstaller in the first place.
It must have changed something on the touchpad itself, because it used to mount fine before that happened... Now every computer installs it as palm novacom booties and never mounts the actual drive, and acmeinstaller just says no device or something like that. Bah, still can't figure it out, I miss android haha.
Did you enable MTP in the advanced menu under the Storage section?
Are you trying to get the device to show up in adb? If you are having troubles with that I found a really nice guide on another website on how to get adb to read the touchpad if nothing else is working. Not sure if I can post the link or not. Send me a pm if this is something you need.
Sent from my cm_tenderloin using xda premium
Problem is I can't boot into android cause the bootloader broke and I can't get it to boot android period, even with cyboot. I know all l I have to do is run ACME again... But I can't run it cause it won't mount haha. Stuck in webOS for now, and every computer I've tried won't boot recovery mode anymore. Drivers check out and register but can't change anything to recognize it as a drive. I think I'm going to try to manually uninstall everything android, then reinstall webOS and see if it mounts then. Blah!
AHHH, just got it to run ACMEInstaller on my original computer. For the hell of it I tried the last thing I could think of and it worked.
In recovery mode, the touchpad still wasn't mounting the USB drive in windows, it was just installing as palm device bootie and not mounting. When I tried to run ACMEInstaller it would just say device not found.
HOWEVER; I started webOS doctor. I got to the screen where it says connect your device with a usb cable and stayed there - the next button was enabled so webosdoctor saw the touchpad. It still didn't mount, but I ran ACMEInstaller for the hell of it without going any further with webosdoctor and it just ran and completed.
Back up and running Alpha 2, whew! Hopefully this can help someone else if this happens to them.
bone625 said:
AHHH, just got it to run ACMEInstaller on my original computer. For the hell of it I tried the last thing I could think of and it worked.
In recovery mode, the touchpad still wasn't mounting the USB drive in windows, it was just installing as palm device bootie and not mounting. When I tried to run ACMEInstaller it would just say device not found.
HOWEVER; I started webOS doctor. I got to the screen where it says connect your device with a usb cable and stayed there - the next button was enabled so webosdoctor saw the touchpad. It still didn't mount, but I ran ACMEInstaller for the hell of it without going any further with webosdoctor and it just ran and completed.
Back up and running Alpha 2, whew! Hopefully this can help someone else if this happens to them.
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This trick with webOS doctor just saved my ass. I couldn't boot past the green cyanogenmod splash screen and needed to boot straight off an image from moboot on my desktop, and taking webOS doctor to that step was the only thing that would let me run the command line entry to make it where my PC would talk to my touchpad. So, thank you
Would this work for a TP that reads both ways on PC as listed by OP but is only stock?
bone625 said:
AHHH, just got it to run ACMEInstaller on my original computer. For the hell of it I tried the last thing I could think of and it worked.
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What do mean by run ACMEInstaller? I only know using the novacom boot mem:// <ACMEInstaller method, though that's getting stuck while on the two penguin screen.
Hp touchpad 32GB converted into Android 4.4.4.KitKat with ROM CM11
Hi My name is Ramadoss.N Recently I have converted my touch pad to Android KITKAT 4.4.4. with Rom CM11 -20140625- Snap Shot- jcsulline. I used TPtoolbox V41d to install. Everything working fine. except few observation.
1. Bottom Menu Button like Home , Return to previous screen are not working in vertical position of touchpad, where as it works in Horizontal position.
2. There are 3 dots on right hand side corner to provide dropdown menu: it works in vertical position, does not work in Horizontal position.
3. search icon ( which looks like a magnifying glass) does not work in both positions.
4.Back space key working in Vertical position, does not work in horizontal position.
5. Could not load Music via computer after installing Android in the Touchpad,
I really appreciate if any one can give me solution for above.
Regards
Ramadoss.N
email : [email protected]
Hi
Long story short - I bricked my 32GB HP Touchpad after running online WebOS Doctor 3.05 which worked and rebooted. But when I went to connect USB to see drive in Windows it wouldn't access it and wanted to format the SD CARD. So I said yes. A reboot later and it sat on HP logo.
So I did another online WebOS Doctor 3.05 and it stuck at 12% for ages. I disconnected the device and it then said ! www.palm.com/ROM screen.
I did a little research and came across http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...6#post20989526 and have followed the novaterm commands for 32 GB device.
But I am stuck at Step 9
9) Run webOS Doctor 3.0.0 (This is to ensure a repartitioning and no other version will work at this point )
I have downloaded webosdoctorp300hstnhwifi.zip from the Internals site but I am unsure how to start this from the command prompt.
Is it done from the Windows command prompt or the Novaterm command prompt? And what command do I issue to finish Step 9?
Addendum to the thread mentioned above: I'm running Windows 7 64 bit as the host PC...
Regards
Soulace1970
Soulace1970 said:
Hi
Long story short - I bricked my 32GB HP Touchpad after running online WebOS Doctor 3.05 which worked and rebooted. But when I went to connect USB to see drive in Windows it wouldn't access it and wanted to format the SD CARD. So I said yes. A reboot later and it sat on HP logo.
So I did another online WebOS Doctor 3.05 and it stuck at 12% for ages. I disconnected the device and it then said ! www.palm.com/ROM screen.
I did a little research and came across http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...6#post20989526 and have followed the novaterm commands for 32 GB device.
But I am stuck at Step 9
9) Run webOS Doctor 3.0.0 (This is to ensure a repartitioning and no other version will work at this point )
I have downloaded webosdoctorp300hstnhwifi.zip from the Internals site but I am unsure how to start this from the command prompt.
Is it done from the Windows command prompt or the Novaterm command prompt? And what command do I issue to finish Step 9?
Addendum to the thread mentioned above: I'm running Windows 7 64 bit as the host PC...
Regards
Soulace1970
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If you've made it this far after running all of those Novaterm commands, you're in for a treat. Just turn off your HP Touchpad, run the WebOSDoctor 3.0.0 by double clicking it on your desktop (if you can't run it, you need to install java, see java.com) Once the dialog box tells you to connect your Touchpad, make sure to hold the up power button when you plug it in, this will boot you to the USB symbol, which is Webos Recovery. Click next button on the dialog box on your computer. It will do the rest. Make sure to charge the unit for awhile with it off if possible (hold home+power for 10-20 seconds after the HP symbol shows up to force it to turn off), as it's a good idea to have at least 30% battery when you do. I've done this process many times to reset my TP when I tried out Ubuntu.
Edit: By the way, you need to extract that zip file prior to running the .jar file (which is the WebOSDoctor program)
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I got my brothers... tried everything... saw this...
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/38786-tpdebrick-v004/
downloaded ubuntu like it suggested... ran it as a live cd... downloaded the stuff... followed the directions (Spelling is CaSe sensitive in ubuntu) and holy crap... it worked!!!
Hi all, finally I registered here at xda today because of the great new HP TPToolbox that jcsullins provides here.
This is really really great !! Many thanks !
As a newcomer to this forum I somehow can not comment on the original thread ( ) although I'm developer for decades ..
Well - so far I've been around on webosnation and other forum - but here I find that the core of development happens here.
XDA seems to be a great place to be - as a developer.
1. About the posting from jcsullins: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52765181&postcount=5
It read:
> Only Touchpad Wifi supported (not 4G) at this time
I assume this is really limited to the released HP TouchPad and does not include the never released HP TouchPad Go (7" device) - right ?
2. I read:
> Reflash A6 Firmware allows you to reflash the A6 firmware.
I very much assume I can not use this if my TP is bricked (my TP does not show anything on the screen and no light at the home button).
So - I guess - I first need to do through the TPdebrick procedure.
Sure I know these instructions: http://rootzwiki.com/topic/38786-tpdebrick-v004 Again, thanks to jcsullins for providing these too.
( Also - I wonder if there is a way to use these instructions from a Win7 system too ?)
3. In terms of using TPToolbox to get Android installed on TP:
Till today I run only webos 3.0.5 on my TouchPads and I want to keep webos around. I have 32GB (Wifi) and 64GB (Wifi) and TP GO (Wifi).
What is the recommendation before installing some Android (4.4) on a TP. Do I need to rearrange / clean up some of the existing webos volumes?
Imagine - I have no experience with Android setup. I read all of the TPToolbox thread - but found no guidance for people who want to keep webos on the same device. And I have no good understanding of what the limitations/drawbacks are when running webos and Android on the same device.
4. I read:
> It will then install moboot (which is included in TPToolbox)
I have no clear understand what moboot is doing and if needed how to remove it again. Will it allow me to boot in Android or webos ?
How many Android versions can I install in parallel and then select one at boot time ?
5. A final question for now. Is there any consideration that in future TPToolbox could allow installing openWebOS if this becomes available for existing TP devices?
anyone with some answer please ?
anyone with some answer please ?
No need to answer all questions at once.
I'm most interested in comments about question (3):
what the limitations/drawbacks are when running webos and Android on the same device: 32GB (Wifi) and 64GB (Wifi) ?
[email protected] said:
anyone with some answer please ?
No need to answer all questions at once.
I'm most interested in comments about question (3):
what the limitations/drawbacks are when running webos and Android on the same device: 32GB (Wifi) and 64GB (Wifi) ?
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OPINIONS ARE subjective as you you appear to have several tablets it is in your best interests to test out and find what works for you. I personally am using Milaq's.
Have fun trying them.
sstar said:
OPINIONS ARE subjective as you you appear to have several tablets it is in your best interests to test out and find what works for you. I personally am using Milaq's.
Have fun trying them.
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Thanks for your comment. So far I have no idea what "Milaq" is: I assume some kind of Android version - but such version is not documented with TPToolbox - so, for sure I will not use that for now.
My question (3) is more about hard facts: what the limitations/drawbacks are when running webos and Android on the same device: 32GB (Wifi) and 64GB (Wifi) ?
Will both OS run well on a 32GB system if both are installed and they use some shared disk space (volume?). I would consider at least 5GB of shared disk space to allow (video) file exchange on the device.
What is a recommended configuration to run webos and Android on the same device. Or doesn't it make sense at all and better use 2 devices?
Will TPToolbox optimize the volume size for both OS?
Can I configure the default OS at boot time? How to do? (Can I run Android apps inside a webos window?)
Unable to navigate TP Toolbox UI
I'm trying to use TP Toolbox to install Android on my TP. When I reach the TouchPad Toolbox UI on the tablet, the volume keys aren't working to navigate, so I have no way to select Complete Data Reset. Any ideas??
[email protected] said:
Thanks for your comment. So far I have no idea what "Milaq" is: I assume some kind of Android version - but such version is not documented with TPToolbox - so, for sure I will not use that for now.
My question (3) is more about hard facts: what the limitations/drawbacks are when running webos and Android on the same device: 32GB (Wifi) and 64GB (Wifi) ?
Will both OS run well on a 32GB system if both are installed and they use some shared disk space (volume?). I would consider at least 5GB of shared disk space to allow (video) file exchange on the device.
What is a recommended configuration to run webos and Android on the same device. Or doesn't it make sense at all and better use 2 devices?
Will TPToolbox optimize the volume size for both OS?
Can I configure the default OS at boot time? How to do? (Can I run Android apps inside a webos window?)
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As you point out, this is the place for answers. All of your questions have been answered in other threads. Search is your friend. WIth respect to the TP GO, it does not appear to have ever been released, but if you have one, you'll have to answer your own questions because no one here has ever mentioned having one:
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2397197,00.asp
Touchpad linked to google account acting badly
J Scullins Toolbox installed with ease. Many thanks. Freed up memory and eliminated WebOS (pretty but pretty useless). Booted fine, loaded CM 11 4.4.2. Then asked if I wanted to restored my google apps from google account. I did. Began updating apps, but included all apps I've ever installed on any android device and loaded my current phone (Galaxy 3) wall paper. Repeated message -> "Unfortunately Trebuchet has stopped" Did not seem to affect downloading updates. Then died. Plugging into charger (wall socket) did not wake it up. Charged all night. Nothing. Unplugged and plugged in again, self-rebooted to boot menu, but has phone screen and shows charging at 1%. Should I reboot to restore mode and start over? Anyone having charging issues after using Toolbox? Thanks.
shumash said:
As you point out, this is the place for answers. All of your questions have been answered in other threads. Search is your friend.
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Thanks for promising that I should be able to find answer. I did read the complete thread about TPToolbox and few others too and search before I started this new thread - but my above 5 questions remained open. If anyone has found a good pointer please paste a URL here.
If I find correct answer myself I will put such links here.
ad (4) I think I understand moboot good enough for now. In my words it is a boot manager that comes with Android or at least you can use with Android. It is not a webos app or so. Not 100% sure how to get it on the TP device - but I assume when I install Android for first time it will also install and it will somehow stay even if Android gets deinstalled. Anyhow - any link to a good wiki page would be much appreciated.
ad (1) Yes, TP GO is a rare device - but several 100 seem to be around by now. Many of these come with some Android 2.X version installed. ( Mine was patched to webos 3.0.5 ) Ok, if noone has a GO here I have to assume that TPToolbox does not support / was not tested on TP GO. So far posting from jcsullins does not mention the TP GO at all: http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...81&postcount=5
mheath said:
I'm trying to use TP Toolbox to install Android on my TP. When I reach the TouchPad Toolbox UI on the tablet, the volume keys aren't working to navigate, so I have no way to select Complete Data Reset. Any ideas??
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I have a TP 4G - sounds like this could be an issue? Will this Toolbox installation work on the 4G? If not, is there a good alternative to install Android?
mheath said:
I have a TP 4G - sounds like this could be an issue? Will this Toolbox installation work on the 4G? If not, is there a good alternative to install Android?
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The original TPtoolbox thread answers this 4G question as: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52923285&postcount=65
Toolbox not working for me
Hello,
i tried Toolbox to bring life back to my Touchpad.
When i'm running this program it starts very well but i can't get the menue.
So it's not possible to run one of the menue-points.
I use Windows 7 64bit, the TP is connected with USB-sign on.
My problem:
In the WebOs-log the last line shows a flash-failure.
When i'm starting the TP, first a static HP-logo comes up, followed from a rotating HP-logo,
the a screen changes from black to white with a grey button rotating.
Any idea?
Thanks!
Rekaro said:
Hello,
i tried Toolbox to bring life back to my Touchpad.
When i'm running this program it starts very well but i can't get the menue.
So it's not possible to run one of the menue-points.
I use Windows 7 64bit, the TP is connected with USB-sign on.
My problem:
In the WebOs-log the last line shows a flash-failure.
When i'm starting the TP, first a static HP-logo comes up, followed from a rotating HP-logo,
the a screen changes from black to white with a grey button rotating.
Any idea?
Thanks!
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Re-read the directions for TP Toolbox. You need to boot into WebOS recovery (a static usb symbol). It sounds like your TP is trying to boot into WebOS, not WebOS recovery.
A) Have novacom installed
To load TPToolbox, you will need novacom to be installed on your PC.
You can download and install novacom from http://www.openwebosproject.org/open.../packages.html
Or, you can download and run a java-based "universal installer" from http://code.google.com/p/universal-n...downloads/list
B) Put the Touchpad into webOS recovery mode and connect via USB cable to PC
NOTE: Even if webOS is removed, webOS recovery will still exist as it's built into the bootloader.
If you have moboot already installed, just select "webOS recovery" there.
Or, power the Touchpad off via webOS, then with the Touchpad is off, hold VolumeUp (closest to Power) and Power until you see the USB symbol.
Or, hold Power+Home until the screen changes (about 10 secs) and then start holding the VolumeUp button until you see the big USB symbol.
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shumash said:
Re-read the directions for TP Toolbox. You need to boot into WebOS recovery (a static usb symbol). It sounds like your TP is trying to boot into WebOS, not WebOS recovery.
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Thanks,
no it's in recovery mode i'm shure. A big usb symbol on the screen and some other lines.
I can then open the terminal-window and connect the Touchpad.
I add here pictures what happens when i type the commands "printenv" and "token".
When i type reboot, the TP starts correct to boot, first the static HP sign, then a greyed HP sign and then a screen (see the picture) with a grey rotating Button.
That's it.
issue loading TPTToolbox
Sorry folks - i am fairly new at this - and we all had to start at some point - so if this is obvious to most, i apologize.. but need a little help.
I cant seem to get the Toolbox to load, i downloaded it from the post,{as well as the Novacom driver} i have extracted the three files - when i open the .bat file i get the message below. I have the TouchPad connected via USB, and windows has assigned it a letter drive and I have the big USB icon on the pad screen
message:
"
Setting Palm path ...
Checking novacom service ...
Loading TPToolbox ...
.
Cannot connect to Touchpad.
Make sure Touchpad is connected with USB cable.
Make sure Touchpad is in webOS Recovery (bootie) mode
(where big USB symbol shows on Touchpad screen)
.
"
Toolbox
I'm not sure you understand the instructions on how to do the install.
Here is a link with instructions that I used for my install:
http://liliputing.com/2014/06/use-touchpad-toolbox-install-android-erase-webos-hp-touchpad.html
While the instructions are written for windows users, I used them for my Ubuntu Linux install and everything
worked perfectly.
Recovery problem when running toolbox
I've followed the instructions for running the Toolbox and have removed WebOS, setup the directory sizes and uploaded the ROM and GApps AND renamed the files as specified in the how-to.
However I am having issues with the recovery. The recovery I downloaded was update-CWM-jcs-dm-tenderloin-20140317.zip
I get the error that "No supported recovery file found. Aborting."
I've seen mention that the cable could be bad however if I have no files in the ttinstall directory, I get an error that there's no ROM. I upload the ROM and rename it and the error then is about the Recovery file so that means the ROM was in fact uploaded so the cable theory is moot.
I'm thinking the recovery file needs to be named something specific however when I have tried to use the file names listed as
Compatible Legacy ROM files:
cm-10.1-*-tenderloin.zip or
skz_tenderloin-2.11_jb_4.2.2-*.zip
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but that doesn't work. Is the file name supposed to be something else?
(Sorry about asking this here. Tried to ask in Developer thread but I don't have enough posts)
chrisjpopp said:
I've followed the instructions for running the Toolbox and have removed WebOS, setup the directory sizes and uploaded the ROM and GApps AND renamed the files as specified in the how-to.
However I am having issues with the recovery. The recovery I downloaded was update-CWM-jcs-dm-tenderloin-20140317.zip
I get the error that "No supported recovery file found. Aborting."
I've seen mention that the cable could be bad however if I have no files in the ttinstall directory, I get an error that there's no ROM. I upload the ROM and rename it and the error then is about the Recovery file so that means the ROM was in fact uploaded so the cable theory is moot.
I'm thinking the recovery file needs to be named something specific however when I have tried to use the file names listed as
but that doesn't work. Is the file name supposed to be something else?
(Sorry about asking this here. Tried to ask in Developer thread but I don't have enough posts)
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Try the update-TWRP-jcs-dm-tenderloin-20140512.zip instead. It worked just fine for me.
chrisjpopp said:
I've followed the instructions for running the Toolbox and have removed WebOS, setup the directory sizes and uploaded the ROM and GApps AND renamed the files as specified in the how-to.
......
(Sorry about asking this here. Tried to ask in Developer thread but I don't have enough posts)
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How did you rename the file? I don't think you need to rename any file.
No matter how many times I reinstall novacom TPtoolbox will not get past
Checking Novacom services....
And goes no fauther.
I am running windows 8.1
HP Touchpad 4G - Issue running
[email protected] said:
The original TPtoolbox thread answers this 4G question as: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=52923285&postcount=65
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Good thing I didn't wipe webOS off! I'd have a nice frisbee. Hopefully these guru's will fix that issue and we can all be happy. Thanks JCSullins.
Wondering if im screwed or if someone can help me, I think the USB port on my Touchpad is gone.
I have been trying to use TP Toolbox but it always fails when finding device.
I have tried 4 different computers (3 Win 7 and 1 Win XP) to recognize the Touchpad as being connected via USB.
Its note a Novacom issue, when I connect the touchpad to the computer I get NO confirmation from Windows that a device is connected, no chime, no listing in the device manager, nothing, years ago I remember that even with no Novacom installed I at least got a notice saying a Palm, Inc device had been connected.
The Touchpad thinks its connected to a charger.
Under Android 4.2, only charging, going to USB connection option and selecting MTP doesnt do anything.
Under Web OS, get a notice that the charger is low capacity, but no option no mount device as USB drive.
Under TWRP when I go to Mount SD card, nothing happens.
The TP charges without any problem otherwise, using wall chargers or the wireless charger.
Any help would be appreciated, otherwise Im stuck on Android 4.2 forever
CYGNUZY said:
Wondering if im screwed or if someone can help me, I think the USB port on my Touchpad is gone.
I have been trying to use TP Toolbox but it always fails when finding device.
I have tried 4 different computers (3 Win 7 and 1 Win XP) to recognize the Touchpad as being connected via USB.
Its note a Novacom issue, when I connect the touchpad to the computer I get NO confirmation from Windows that a device is connected, no chime, no listing in the device manager, nothing, years ago I remember that even with no Novacom installed I at least got a notice saying a Palm, Inc device had been connected.
The Touchpad thinks its connected to a charger.
Under Android 4.2, only charging, going to USB connection option and selecting MTP doesnt do anything.
Under Web OS, get a notice that the charger is low capacity, but no option no mount device as USB drive.
Under TWRP when I go to Mount SD card, nothing happens.
The TP charges without any problem otherwise, using wall chargers or the wireless charger.
Any help would be appreciated, otherwise Im stuck on Android 4.2 forever
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This should be in [email protected] thread. Not development.
CYGNUZY said:
Wondering if im screwed or if someone can help me, I think the USB port on my Touchpad is gone.
I have been trying to use TP Toolbox but it always fails when finding device.
I have tried 4 different computers (3 Win 7 and 1 Win XP) to recognize the Touchpad as being connected via USB.
Its note a Novacom issue, when I connect the touchpad to the computer I get NO confirmation from Windows that a device is connected, no chime, no listing in the device manager, nothing, years ago I remember that even with no Novacom installed I at least got a notice saying a Palm, Inc device had been connected.
The Touchpad thinks its connected to a charger.
Under Android 4.2, only charging, going to USB connection option and selecting MTP doesnt do anything.
Under Web OS, get a notice that the charger is low capacity, but no option no mount device as USB drive.
Under TWRP when I go to Mount SD card, nothing happens.
The TP charges without any problem otherwise, using wall chargers or the wireless charger.
Any help would be appreciated, otherwise Im stuck on Android 4.2 forever
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Try a different cable. Make sure it's not an OTG one.
TPtoolbox Troubleshooting video
CYGNUZY said:
Wondering if im screwed or if someone can help me, I think the USB port on my Touchpad is gone.
I have been trying to use TP Toolbox but it always fails when finding device.
I have tried 4 different computers (3 Win 7 and 1 Win XP) to recognize the Touchpad as being connected via USB.
Its note a Novacom issue, when I connect the touchpad to the computer I get NO confirmation from Windows that a device is connected, no chime, no listing in the device manager, nothing, years ago I remember that even with no Novacom installed I at least got a notice saying a Palm, Inc device had been connected.
The Touchpad thinks its connected to a charger.
Under Android 4.2, only charging, going to USB connection option and selecting MTP doesnt do anything.
Under Web OS, get a notice that the charger is low capacity, but no option no mount device as USB drive.
Under TWRP when I go to Mount SD card, nothing happens.
The TP charges without any problem otherwise, using wall chargers or the wireless charger.
Any help would be appreciated, otherwise Im stuck on Android 4.2 forever
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Video Timecode:
Intro: @ 0:00-0:50
TPtoolbox file confusion and version history v40 @ 0:51
TPtoolbox v41x post 293 @ XDA and recoveries for v41x @ 1:58
TPtoolbox not flashing corrupted files @ 3:44
TPtoolbox volume buttons don't navigate the menu @ 4:14
Alternate install guides for CM11/Android 4.4.x on the HP TP(4G) 5:41
Bricking and Bootloops help starts @ 6:41
Touchpad doesn't charge or turn on when plugged in @ 7:04
Always try using a different USB cable! @ 7:46
Jcsullins TPdebrick Last resort @ 8:00
Bootloop help and fixes @ 8:20
Can't activate WebOS after Jan,15, 2015 @ 9:42
Well for one, as someone said before, make sure you are using a proper USB cable, they aren't all the same, some cheap cables are designed to charge devices but won't work for connecting a device to a computer for data transfer. And also, you need to be in recovery mode for the toolbox to start. Turn the tablet off and then hold the Power + Vol UP until you see the USB symbol appear on the tablet. Connect it to your computer and open the batch file for the toolbox. If you have Novacom properly installed, it should recognize it right away and the toolbox will show up on the tablet.
Thank you to everyone for trying to help but nothing works, I have tried 3 cables so far:
1 that came with a Nexus 5.
The original Touchpad cable with the silver dimple.
A generic cable I have lying around.
Also tried 4 different computers, all same effect.
Does anyone have any other ideas? As I said in the opening post, Touchpad Recovery mode doesnt work, Android USB Mode doesnt work, Web OS USB and TWRP Mount mode the same.
No matter what I do, Windows wont detect that ANYTHING is connected to the USB port, no chime, no entry in the device manager, Novacom installed or not.
CYGNUZY said:
Thank you to everyone for trying to help but nothing works, I have tried 3 cables so far:
1 that came with a Nexus 5.
The original Touchpad cable with the silver dimple.
A generic cable I have lying around.
Also tried 4 different computers, all same effect.
Does anyone have any other ideas? As I said in the opening post, Touchpad Recovery mode doesnt work, Android USB Mode doesnt work, Web OS USB and TWRP Mount mode the same.
No matter what I do, Windows wont detect that ANYTHING is connected to the USB port, no chime, no entry in the device manager, Novacom installed or not.
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Are you going to sell it?
bryantjopplin said:
Are you going to sell it?
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Nope, just gonna keep it in this half broken build of Jelly Bean
CYGNUZY said:
Nope, just gonna keep it in this half broken build of Jelly Bean
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Lol you might be able to replace the USB board inside.
CYGNUZY said:
Thank you to everyone for trying to help but nothing works, I have tried 3 cables so far:
1 that came with a Nexus 5.
The original Touchpad cable with the silver dimple.
A generic cable I have lying around.
Also tried 4 different computers, all same effect.
Does anyone have any other ideas? As I said in the opening post, Touchpad Recovery mode doesnt work, Android USB Mode doesnt work, Web OS USB and TWRP Mount mode the same.
No matter what I do, Windows wont detect that ANYTHING is connected to the USB port, no chime, no entry in the device manager, Novacom installed or not.
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Have you tried the newer UniversalNovacomInstaller-1.4.1? I've just added into my thread recently. Just incase its a driver issue, sounds like your USB might be fried however:crying:
Download and run the Universal Novacom Installer 1.4.1 here:
Note: You will need to have Java installed to run the Universal installer, click here:
RolandDeschain79 said:
Have you tried the newer UniversalNovacomInstaller-1.4.1? I've just added into my thread recently. Just incase its a driver issue, sounds like your USB might be fried however:crying:
Download and run the Universal Novacom Installer 1.4.1 here:
Note: You will need to have Java installed to run the Universal installer, click here:
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Thank you so much, I will give it a try as soon as I get home.
Also, is there anyway to upgrade Android on the TP without USB? I could transfer files using FTP or Wi Fi File explorer.
Possible but problematic
CYGNUZY said:
Thank you so much, I will give it a try as soon as I get home.
Also, is there anyway to upgrade Android on the TP without USB? I could transfer files using FTP or Wi Fi File explorer.
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It might be possible to update your tablet without using the TPToolbox but you may have to manually change some partition sizes. I have an older guide for installing data media builds below that doesn't rely on the Toolbox. However I still recommend doing things like uninstalling android, which you can't do, so the procedure might be hit or miss. If you make a nandroid backup and transfer it to your PC you could attempt it. I've updated some of the links and you can find the newer recoveries at the bottom. Have a look and feel free to ask questions if you plan to attempt it, I'll try to update the info a bit.
[ROM GUIDE]How to install Android 4.4.x Data Media builds on the HP TP(Non-TPToolbox)
RolandDeschain79 said:
It might be possible to update your tablet without using the TPToolbox but you may have to manually change some partition sizes. I have an older guide for installing data media builds below that doesn't rely on the Toolbox. However I still recommend doing things like uninstalling android, which you can't do, so the procedure might be hit or miss. If you make a nandroid backup and transfer it to your PC you could attempt it. I've updated some of the links and you can find the newer recoveries at the bottom. Have a look and feel free to ask questions if you plan to attempt it, I'll try to update the info a bit.
[ROM GUIDE]How to install Android 4.4.x Data Media builds on the HP TP(Non-TPToolbox)
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Thank you very much for updating the links for me, I really appreciate it, and will give it a try later! :good:
I havent used my Touchpad for a year or so but took it on holiday to Portugal. I tried getting my GMAIL to work and it would not. So I did a partial wipe. Now it lets me say what country I am and what language then goes to wifi screen. It shows its picking up my wifi and lets me sign in then an error message comes up and it goes no further I understand Webos is not supported any more so was wondering how to load a new software package ( Android?) and start again. Help please?
Install Android and you're good
rose28454 said:
I havent used my Touchpad for a year or so but took it on holiday to Portugal. I tried getting my GMAIL to work and it would not. So I did a partial wipe. Now it lets me say what country I am and what language then goes to wifi screen. It shows its picking up my wifi and lets me sign in then an error message comes up and it goes no further I understand Webos is not supported any more so was wondering how to load a new software package ( Android?) and start again. Help please?
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Android would be the way to go, WebOS is no longer supported. Jcsullins TPtoolbox with make it happen, have fun.:highfive:
[ROM GUIDE]How to install Android 5.x.x/4.4.x with Jcsullins TPtoolbox Super Easy Way
RolandDeschain79 said:
Android would be the way to go, WebOS is no longer supported. Jcsullins TPtoolbox with make it happen, have fun.:highfive:
[ROM GUIDE]How to install Android 5.x.x/4.4.x with Jcsullins TPtoolbox Super Easy Way
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I had a look and think I can do that. But couple questions. How can I get past the screens I mentioned in my post and secondly how can I download if I cant get on internet on the TP?
rose28454 said:
I had a look and think I can do that. But couple questions. How can I get past the screens I mentioned in my post and secondly how can I download if I cant get on internet on the TP?
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You'll need to connect the touchpad to a PC prior to using the toolbox. It'll let the PC read the touchpad as a USB mass storage device and you can migrate your ROM, GAPPS, etc. onto the device and let the toolbox work its magic .
rfoster2009 said:
You'll need to connect the touchpad to a PC prior to using the toolbox. It'll let the PC read the touchpad as a USB mass storage device and you can migrate your ROM, GAPPS, etc. onto the device and let the toolbox work its magic .
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I tried for 4 hours last night and eventually downloaded the Novacom but it would not work. Any ideas?
Instructions start with step #1
rose28454 said:
I tried for 4 hours last night and eventually downloaded the Novacom but it would not work. Any ideas?
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It took you 4hrs to get to step 1? Further explanation is needed here, the steps are in an order for a reason.
If you're having issues getting the novacom drivers installed disable any antivirus or spyware protection that might be preventing the program from downloading the correct drivers for your system. Also make sure you have java installed and reboot after installing everything.
1)Getting started, Requirements and Preparation:
A)You must have the novacom software installed on your PC before running Jcsullins Touchpad Toolbox.
Download and run the Universal Novacom Installer 1.4.1. Click here:
Note:You will need to have Java installed to run the Universal installer. Click here:
Note: You may need to reboot after installing this software.
Or
Download, extract and install the appropriate version of Novacom for your OS. Click here:
Note: Under Linux the Novacom driver is installed at /opt/Palm run it from this location.