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How wet have you gotten your Gear?

Curious to hear some stories from those of you that have gotten your gear wet. I've done dishes (just splashes) and been in the rain with no problem.

Four days after getting it i accidently jumped in shower with it. I didnt notice untill it vibrated from a notifucation. And i was in there at least 10 minutes before that. No problems at all. To be noted i dont shower with it but it was good to know a full blast of water and shampoo didnt do anything to it.
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dv8nathan said:
Four days after getting it i accidently jumped in shower with it. I didnt notice untill it vibrated from a notifucation. And i was in there at least 10 minutes before that. No problems at all. To be noted i dont shower with it but it was good to know a full blast of water and shampoo didnt do anything to it.
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Sincerely, With respect I do NOT suggest you make that a habit and other posters try to replicate that. The IP is rated at a mere 55. I suggest you are a very lucky person, in fact very lucky indeed. From reading this forum it is clear from many posts that even moisture caused by sweat has caused some owners problems in misting up the camera lens. Several members who use the Gear in a Gym have actually made their own under strap to prevent moisture touching the back of the Gear.
No confrontation on my part I just want to point out that what you did was maybe more to do with luck than the design capabilities of this watch?
Caution.
Regards

A little rain going into my car thats it!

Absolutely. It was a singular event that actually freaked me out. I have no intentions of duplicating that mistake nor advise anyone to do that just because i was fortunate. I love my gear and am excited to partucipate in all the new developements happening here.
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im a truck driver, im always out in the weather. i have put this watch through so much stress, i even banged it into a trailer!
theres still not a scratch on it and my watch is white, and its not even dirty(yet). very durable watch. i even wash my hands alot and gotten water
into the speaker on the strap. everything still works perfectly. :good:

Guess the better question is if anyone has had water damage and from what. I am very cautious with the watch and water. Wash my hands a lot slower now.. Lol. Basically treat it as it can't get wet. Don't know a lot of people who have the money to waste to test it's limits. I sure don't want to find out.
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koreankabachy said:
Guess the better question is if anyone has had water damage and from what. I am very cautious with the watch and water. Wash my hands a lot slower now.. Lol. Basically treat it as it can't get wet. Don't know a lot of people who have the money to waste to test it's limits. I sure don't want to find out.
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I will say 'Amen' to that.

Have sweated in mine a lot and no problems.Played golf in the rain no problems.certainly not been in the shower but I think that proves that worrying about water damage in a normal days use is a non starter
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hhadrian said:
Have sweated in mine a lot and no problems.Played golf in the rain no problems.certainly not been in the shower but I think that proves that worrying about water damage in a normal days use is a non starter
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If you read this forum and other forums many people have not been as lucky as you. The Gear should certainly have been produced and designed with a higher IP rating. Sony has been doing this for some time. It is truly the Achilles tendon of the gear.
Regards

hhadrian said:
Have sweated in mine a lot and no problems.Played golf in the rain no problems.certainly not been in the shower but I think that proves that worrying about water damage in a normal days use is a non starter
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I have read the comments and apart from some misting on the camera lens water is not a problem, if I get very hot and sweaty mine mists up but it clears very quickly much like my car windscreen and I would not like to lose the camera on the gear or my car windscreen
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Submerged in Saltwater Fish Tank
Was tending to my Saltwater fish tank with the right hand. To make a long story short...a fish got in the way. I reached in with my left hand to get him out of the way. I forgot I had the watch on my left wrist. I had the GG in my 75 Gallon Saltwater tank for about 10 seconds. The S Voice sounded a lil gurgled for a bit. However, now everything seems fine. This happened 3 days ago.

noface357 said:
Was tending to my Saltwater fish tank with the right hand. To make a long story short...a fish got in the way. I reached in with my left hand to get him out of the way. I forgot I had the watch on my left wrist. I had the GG in my 75 Gallon Saltwater tank for about 10 seconds. The S Voice sounded a lil gurgled for a bit. However, now everything seems fine. This happened 3 days ago.
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For some actual visual of what the watch is rated for, this is the water part of an IP55 rating at 23 seconds:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-J1QnQIhiA
And here is an IP55 rated radio:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbDIB2yGuSY
Safe to say short of swimming with it, it should be fine.

How wet have you gotten your gear?
This sounds dirty... really wet! hahaha j/k sowwy.

Last night was the first time my watch got wet. I sweat heaps (and rather easily). Was at arcade and talked into a bit of impromptu dance dance revolution. Danced up a storm and sweated like a waterfall. No sign of moisture inside anywhere. If it continues that way, waterproofing is no longer a worry for me
Sucks that we have to worry about a watch like that...or is it just paranoia because of one guy and his 'it's only ip55 and therefore not workproof' stuff

Brendo said:
or is it just paranoia because of one guy and his 'it's only ip55 and therefore not workproof' stuff
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I think it's mostly this. You can't swim with it on, but look at the evidence here;
* Someone showered with it and no problems
* Someone dunked it in a fishtank and no problems (Salt water at that)
* Look at those videos I posted - that is literally an IP55 rating test.
The water in the camera thing seems to be the lack of a seal around the edge of the glass. That's NOT the lens, it's just a lens protector. Water in here won't hurt anything at all.

Wore it in the rain to test her out. Even used it while raining (not well, but I was kinda able to swipe back and forth). She still works like a champ with absolutely no problems. Worst case scenario I'll just buy another if this one takes a dive and gut it for parts to tinker with.
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You know, ive seen comments on the moisture in the camera and ive never gotten it even after my accidental shower incident and frequent handwashings.
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Check out this video on Youtube (add to the end of youtube.com) /watch?v=3o0MUGyU2Q4
(I don't have many posts, won't let me post URLs.

Wrathlon said:
I think it's mostly this. You can't swim with it on, but look at the evidence here;
* Someone showered with it and no problems
* Someone dunked it in a fishtank and no problems (Salt water at that)
* Look at those videos I posted - that is literally an IP55 rating test.
The water in the camera thing seems to be the lack of a seal around the edge of the glass. That's NOT the lens, it's just a lens protector. Water in here won't hurt anything at all.
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Shall we talk facts rather than opinion. See below.
"The International Organization for Standardization issued a standard for water resistant watches which also prohibits the term waterproof to be used with watches, which many countries have adopted. The international standard ISO 2281 Horology – Water-resistant watches defines the water resistance of watches. This standard was introduced in 1990 and only designed for watches intended for ordinary daily use and are resistant to water during exercises such as swimming for a short period. They may be used under conditions where water pressure and temperature vary. However, whether they bear an additional indication of overpressure or not, they are not intended for submarine diving.
The ISO 2281 standard specifies a detailed testing procedure for each mark that defines not only pressures but also test duration, water temperature, and other parameters. Besides this ISO 2859-2 Sampling plans indexed by limiting quality (LQ) for isolated lot inspection and ISO 2859-3 Sampling procedures for inspection by attributes – Part 3: Skip-lot sampling procedures concerning procedures regarding lot sampling testing come into play, since not every single watch has to be tested for ISO 2281 approval.
ISO 2281 water resistance testing of a watch consists of:
Resistance when immersed in water at a depth of 10 cm. Immersion of the watch in 10 cm of water for 1 hour.
Resistance of operative parts. Immersion of the watch in 10 cm of water with a force of 5 N perpendicular to the crown and pusher buttons (if any) for 10 minutes.
Condensation test. The watch shall be placed on a heated plate at a temperature between 40 °C and 45 °C until the watch has reached the temperature of the heated plate (in practice, a heating time of 10 minutes to 20 minutes, depending on the type of watch, will be sufficient). A drop of water, at a temperature between 18 °C and 25 °C shall be placed on the glass of the watch. After about 1 minute, the glass shall be wiped with a dry rag. Any watch which has condensation on the interior surface of the glass shall be eliminated.
Resistance to different temperatures. Immersion of the watch in 10 cm of water at the following temperatures for 5 minutes each, 40 °C, 20 °C and 40 °C again, with the transition between temperatures not to exceed 1 minute. No evidence of water intrusion or condensation is allowed.
Resistance to water overpressure. Immersion of the watch in a suitable pressure vessel and subjecting it within 1 minute to the rated pressure for 10 minutes, or to 2 bar in case where no additional indication is given. Then the overpressure is reduced to the ambient pressure within 1 minute. No evidence of water intrusion or condensation is allowed.
Resistance to air overpressure. Exposing the watch to an overpressure of 2 bar. The watch shall show no air-flow exceeding 50 μg/min.
No magnetic or shock resistance properties are required.
No negative pressure test is required.
No strap attachment test is required.
No corrosion test is required.
Except the thermal shock resistance test all further ISO 2281 testing should be conducted at 18 °C to 25 °C temperature. Regarding pressure ISO 2281 defines: 1 bar = 105 Pa = 105 N/m2.
In practice, the survivability of the watch will depend not only on the water depth, but also on the age of the sealing material, past damage, temperature, and additional mechanical stresses."
Further t this please also note the following;
"Water resistance rating Suitability Remarks
Water Resistant 3 ATM or 30 m Suitable for everyday use. Splash/rain resistant. NOT suitable for showering, bathing, swimming, snorkelling, water related work and fishing. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 5 ATM or 50 m Suitable for swimming, white water rafting, non-snorkeling water related work, and fishing. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 10 ATM or 100 m Suitable for recreational surfing, swimming, snorkeling, sailing and water sports. NOT suitable for diving.
Water Resistant 20 ATM or 200 m Suitable for professional marine activity, serious surface water sports and skin diving. Suitable for skin diving.
Diver's 100 m Minimum ISO standard (ISO 6425) for scuba diving at depths NOT suitable for saturation diving. Diver's 100 m and 150 m watches are generally old(er) watches.
Diver's 200 m or 300 m Suitable for scuba diving at depths NOT suitable for saturation diving. Typical ratings for contemporary diver's watches.
Diver's 300+ m for mixed-gas diving Suitable for saturation diving (helium enriched environment). Watches designed for mixed-gas diving will have the DIVER’S WATCH L M FOR MIXED-GAS DIVING additional marking to point this out.
Manufacturers water resistance classifications are interpretations and are not part of any ISO standard definition."
As you can read for yourself this is not me on some sort of quest to prove any point whatsoever, I don't need to its written for you above.
My aim is to try to prevent people from damaging their watch. Nothing more and nothing less.
From the above quotes you can clearly see that our galaxy gear is not even water resistant by definition and needs care when coming into any contact with water.
Personally speaking, I find this a total pain in the neck and a very large blunder on Samsung's part. This is a wrist watch and should at least be water resistant too 30m or put this way splash proof. Yes, your other daily watch that has written on the back " Water resistant to 30m does NOT mean that the watch can be submerged to a depth of 30m, you cant even shower or bath in it!.
This is one of the biggest complaints with the watch trade and one that causes numerous problems to all watch retailers and horologists. The 'standard' is absurd. See the above codification for yourself.
The other point that needs to be understood is just because one may shower in the Gear, Sauna in the Gear etc and the watch still functions is certainly NOT an indication that no damage was done, the opposite may apply, its often just a question of time and how long the water inside the Gear will take to cause a possible problem.
Those unfortunate owners who have the lens mist up due to water ingress, How many times do you think one can place the watch in rice and dry it out before corrosion starts to make some affect? Sure the watch may work today, for a week maybe even six months but as yet we simply don't have the living experience of what's to come as the device is so new.
Only now are those who abused the Sony Xperia Z mobile phones starting to find their mobiles are not at all 'water proof' and cannot be taken white water rapids, diving, boiled in soup or cooked in chocolate (I jest not go see the youtube clips) etc. .

[Q] Heart rate not working when skin get humid

The heart rate sensor doesn't have readings while my skin get humid (not even wet).
That makes the heart rate function very useless. I do excerice and certainly I sweat. If I sweat I get humid and not heart rate readings.
Anyone who is bothering by this problem?
Is there a solution? Thank you very much.
And by the way, the watchband broken today. The metal part dropped off the plastic band.
What a terrible experience with Samsung Gear Live.

Heart Rate Sensor not working during workout/sweat
I am experiencing the same thing
bitwjo said:
The heart rate sensor doesn't have readings while my skin get humid (not even wet).
That makes the heart rate function very useless. I do excerice and certainly I sweat. If I sweat I get humid and not heart rate readings.
Anyone who is bothering by this problem?
Is there a solution? Thank you very much.
And by the way, the watchband broken today. The metal part dropped off the plastic band.
What a terrible experience with Samsung Gear Live.
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I can't speak for anyone else's workout. But I have not had any issue with continuous heart rate monitoring working during my daily workouts. I do put the watch on pretty tight, to ensure it won't move around or have any trouble getting readings.

Any Anti- Fog Options?

Just curious if anyone had any good anti-fog spray or film that would work for us? Fogging isn't too bad for me but when it does happen it gets a little annoying.

Funny, I was just having that issue and thought it was annoying I had to remove the headset every so often.

zergslayer69 said:
Funny, I was just having that issue and thought it was annoying I had to remove the headset every so often.
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ya that fogging think make me go crazy, I used the cloth that come with it to clean it...but I think if we look at any lens solution for anti-fogging, esp for the glasses that might work? my sun-glasses get fog.....so there got to be a solution, if not...we can make millions just by trying to discover something new.

It seems to happen to me when it slightly slides down, I have adjusted it to sit very high on low I lid above the bag of eye, hasn't fogged since, I think air from nose would make its way in. Lol quit breathing so heavy. It is annoying when it fogs, it was only the left side for me

Everytime I use the VR... I have to literally sit in front of a fan for 2 reasons...
1. Fog
2. Heat (N4 gets hot and the VR tells me to stop for a while)

I went on amazon to see what they had, looked at some anti fog sprays. One of the reviews said people in hawaii were using baby shampoo mixed with water. You probably have to reapply a little more than using sprays but at least it's unlikely you'll get your eyes irritated if you do it wrong?
I'm wondering if samsung sells replacement lenses in case you scratch them or screw them up trying to anti fog it.

Quoting Gizmag ( What John Carmack Recommends)
Lens fogging is an issue on every VR headset, whether it's Oculus, Google Cardboard or the Gear VR. You can always remove the headset and give it a quick wipe with a microfiber cloth, but that only fixes the problem for a few seconds (and it doesn't exactly help with the virtual reality illusion).
The best lens fogging fix we've found came from Oculus CTO (and gaming legend) John Carmack: a product called Clarity Defog It wipes. Since we started using them, our Gear VR has been completely fog-free. Just wipe the eye-facing sides of both lenses before you put the headset on, and you'll have a clear window into your virtual world.
It's possible there are other products that will meet the same end, but we'd recommend steering clear of anti-fog sprays and wipes designed for car windshields: they use chemicals that were never meant to sit within a few millimeters of the human eye.
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Apply tooth paste, leave it 5 min then clean and try.
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Pollux King said:
Apply tooth paste, leave it 5 min then clean and try.
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I personally would not use toothpaste. It's a abrasive and I don't believe you want to use a abrasive on optical grade plastic.
Toothpaste is used to promote oral hygiene: it serves as an abrasive that aids in removing the dental plaque and food from the teeth, assists in suppressing halitosis, and delivers active ingredients (most commonly fluoride) to help prevent tooth and gum disease (gingivitis).

cdmoore74 said:
I personally would not use toothpaste. It's a abrasive and I don't believe you want to use a abrasive on optical grade plastic.
Toothpaste is used to promote oral hygiene: it serves as an abrasive that aids in removing the dental plaque and food from the teeth, assists in suppressing halitosis, and delivers active ingredients (most commonly fluoride) to help prevent tooth and gum disease (gingivitis).
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I bought the clarity defog It wipes, will let you know how it works when prime delivers it this sunday.

Pollux King said:
Apply tooth paste, leave it 5 min then clean and try.
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That is respectfully some unintentionally bad advice. You will damage the lens surfaces.

boodies said:
Quoting Gizmag ( What John Carmack Recommends)
The best lens fogging fix we've found came from Oculus CTO (and gaming legend) John Carmack: a product called Clarity Defog It wipes. Since we started using them, our Gear VR has been completely fog-free.
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Thank you for finding this! Ordering some now...
I do disagree a bit with the earlier part of the quote. I've never had steam problems on the DK2 or Google Cardboard, just on the Gear VR.

VRVoodoo said:
I bought the clarity defog It wipes, will let you know how it works when prime delivers it this sunday.
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The best result is to warm up the gear. I use a blow dryer or set it on my heater for a sec. Not getting it hot though. Just warm. The only reason it fogs up is because the gear is colder then the heat eminating from your face.
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This is what I've been doing. If you got an Xbox one, I just place the headset on top of the console where the vents are and it warms it up nicely quick.

I use diver mask liquid spit from amazon. Works good. Just reapply every few weeks.

the fogging is due to temperature, cold lens + warm face = fogging.
try pressing your thumbs on the lenses for 30 sec prior to wearing it.

I received the Clarity Defog wipes last week. They work perfectly with one application lasting a few days. I use the resealable packs.

BleedingPurist said:
I received the Clarity Defog wipes last week. They work perfectly with one application lasting a few days. I use the resealable packs.
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+1

I had the same issue all the time until I starting positioning the VR a bit lower on my nose/face. I guess it is different for everyone but in the beginning I was so frustrated due to fog that I was contemplating returning the device.
After the minor adjustment, I'm a happy camper again.

[Q] LG G Watch R wrist sores

Hi guys,
I'm not sure if anybody else is experiencing this but I've had my device a few months now and whenever I have either done a workout/been hot I get a red mark on my wrist where the heartbeat sensor is.
I never use the heartbeat sensor so I don't think its because I've been using it, but the mark can last quite a few hours after I've taken it off.
Has anybody else experienced this? (I haven't had this issue with normal watches)

No problems here, although I have never been known to have a workout!
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No problems here also but I use a lens plastic protector . maybe you're allergic to something the lens glass is made of. Try to use a lens plastic protector like I do and it can solve that.
Like you said you haven't used the heart rate sensor / light so it shouldn't be that.
Probably its the lens glass chemical cover like I said above.
If doesn't get better try to use a NATO strap as those block the heart sensor light and make it impossible to use.

Hi
I ride MTB regularly and no problem.

This happened to me once when I fell asleep with it on. I think I slept on my left arm and it just got a little hot and burnt me. I've noticed the watch just get warm sometimes. Hasn't happened since, though. But I have kept it a bit loose, especially when it feels like it's getting hot.

JordTOC said:
Hi guys,
I'm not sure if anybody else is experiencing this but I've had my device a few months now and whenever I have either done a workout/been hot I get a red mark on my wrist where the heartbeat sensor is.
I never use the heartbeat sensor so I don't think its because I've been using it, but the mark can last quite a few hours after I've taken it off.
Has anybody else experienced this? (I haven't had this issue with normal watches)
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I just got my g watch r today and I plan on working out with it on. Have you have any more issues with red marks on your wrist?

KodeBlue said:
I just got my g watch r today and I plan on working out with it on. Have you have any more issues with red marks on your wrist?
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I have been yes, I may contact LG as I don't really want to cover the sensor with anything as this may also cause irritation.

I have a similar issue with my Moto 360. As you can see in the attached picture I have a bit of a Moto 360 Tan line.. but inside there is a noticeable red patch. I haven't used the heartbeat sensor for at least a week.

I have that same sore. I hope they can address this.

Tatsumaru said:
I have a similar issue with my Moto 360. As you can see in the attached picture I have a bit of a Moto 360 Tan line.. but inside there is a noticeable red patch. I haven't used the heartbeat sensor for at least a week.
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Heart rate declining performance?

I feel like my heart rate readings while walking - which used to be very accurate - are now consistently 20-25 points high. Need to confirm with a chest strap, but my watch is indicating high anaerobic exercise (above 80% max) while I'm barely breathing heavy (more indicative of light-to-moderate exertion). Pretty sure unless I was super power-walking it's not possible for my heart rate to get that high.
Anyone else experiencing this? I cleaned the sensor really good, and same thing. It was very accurate several months ago. Resting/sleeping measurements appear to be good. This might make upgrading an easy choice, though I'm waiting to see what Apple and Fitbit/Google come out with.

Try rigorously cleaning the skin where watch sits.
Try rotating 180°, make it's tight enough.
Apparently you're not alone.
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So I got the 46mm Galaxy Watch a couple of weeks ago and I like pretty much everything about it except for the heart rate sensor. I was using a FitBit Charge 2 previously and it did a pretty good job of tracking heart rate and giving me the info I needed but I wanted more in a watch so that's...
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