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Just curious, I saw the knox app om all international and Tmobile versions but I cant find it on my att version. BY Knox I mean the secure profile switcher.
Update 1 :
Koars215 received a correspondence from Samsung:
"after days on days of speaking with att and samsung... corporate finally spilled the beans lol this is coming from samsung mouth the agent told me that att push the device for purchased and did not look over the software in full before putting it on the shelf. They said the reason we can see the knox app in the installation manager is because by default it should be. Also its something that cant be found on its samsung app market place.
END RESULT: Samsung said within the next 1-2 weeks it will push a software update for At&t and t-mobile(i had no clue t-mobile was having the same issue)"
Update 2:
Get the knoxstub.apk from note 3 international and placed it in system after being rooted and now knox is working perfect. Tnx to cburnett
Update 3:
Knoxstub is attached. Tested and it works :good: Tnx to cburnett for the file.
Just open the apk and install normally and let it do its thing.
Exactly I can't find it either.
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I was just going to post this to. It's in the application manager could extract it with file explorer but should be installed already?
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I was just going to post this to. It's in the application manager could extract it with file explorer but should be installed already?
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You would think it should be installed with an icon on the first page also!! considering how much Samsung is proud of it
Yep my thoughts exactly. Lol I was bored messing with my new toy and noticed that it's not there weird timing you posted that lol
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I've searched high and low but can not figure out how to access/install/enable knox. I also see it running in application manager.
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Farley1 said:
I've searched high and low but can not figure out how to access/install/enable knox. I also see it running in application manager.
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Me neither. It's strange
To activate it go to Security>Device Administrators.
Word to the wise, if you care about Root or Bootloader Unlock; becareful. No one really knows what Knox changes hardware wise, IF it even changes anything hardware wise and software wise.
Unfortunately there's no way for us on AT&T N3 to disable it completely. But so far, it's not running on mine.
How do you use Knox on the att version? How do I get credentials for it
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Jammol said:
To activate it go to Security>Device Administrators.
Word to the wise, if you care about Root or Bootloader Unlock; becareful. No one really knows what Knox changes hardware wise, IF it even changes anything hardware wise and software wise.
Unfortunately there's no way for us on AT&T N3 to disable it completely. But so far, it's not running on mine.
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Still it doesn't show up after I activate it.
Same here checking knox in administrators does nothing. Could it be that I'm using the sim from my note 2 and not the one that was in the box?
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I'm using the SIM from my S4 and can't do anything with it either
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Guys Knox is not an app. It's a security protocol that keeps your information private and also your activity. Anything done in Knox, stays in Knox. Once it's activated it's on and monitors your security.
Here's some more information on how it works.... http://www.samsung.com/global/business/mobile/solution/security/samsung-knox
At&t Note III...& At&t G Pro
mine don't work either
@Jammol your wrong on the the other company's such as sprint there is an/a app on the home screen that allows you to place things inside the container and also Knox have its own store with supported apps. I was on the phone with Samsung advanced tech support and they were scratching their head on why it isn't installed on the device but it is found in the installation manager
I said its not an app because I don't classify it as one. Yes its a container, an environment, an app.
At&t Note III...& At&t G Pro
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I said its not an app because I don't classify it as one. Yes its a container, an environment, an app.
At&t Note III...& At&t G Pro
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All variants have this Knox app that switches environments, but not at&t and thats what we are asking: Where is it?
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All variants have this Knox app that switches environments, but not at&t and thats what we are asking: Where is it?
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I will keep you guys updated this will be round 2 with advance tech support (samsung+att)... My guess is if others are having this problem that they will end up pushing a update that fixes this problem. My buddy got the Note 3 for sprint and i saw that its visible from the home screen and had to download the knox store onto the note 3. When i later got my note 3 from att that was the first app i looked for and i wasn't available.
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Guys Knox is not an app. It's a security protocol that keeps your information private and also your activity. Anything done in Knox, stays in Knox. Once it's activated it's on and monitors your security.
Here's some more information on how it works.... http://www.samsung.com/global/business/mobile/solution/security/samsung-knox
At&t Note III...& At&t G Pro
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I can't totally agree with that. Simply activating it as an administrator does nothing.
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I will keep you guys updated this will be round 2 with advance tech support (samsung+att)... My guess is if others are having this problem that they will end up pushing a update that fixes this problem. My buddy got the Note 3 for sprint and i saw that its visible from the home screen and had to download the knox store onto the note 3. When i later got my note 3 from att that was the first app i looked for and i wasn't available.
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Any luck?
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Who is working on the boot loader unlock for our variant of the s5? Is anyone?
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Who is working on the boot loader unlock for our variant of the s5? Is anyone?
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As far as I know no one, work on safe strap seems to have come to a stop as well so it doesn't look like we will be getting ROM slots working either att = suck
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Who is working on the boot loader unlock for our variant of the s5? Is anyone?
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There may be someone working on it...but no need to talk about it till they have something concrete.
I have a feeling if the S5 is cracked it'll work on our Actives as well.
This is an awesome phone...I'm pretty satisfied with it and it can only be better. There's some amazing minds here...be patient.
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There may be someone working on it...but no need to talk about it till they have something concrete.
I have a feeling if the S5 is cracked it'll work on our Actives as well.
This is an awesome phone...I'm pretty satisfied with it and it can only be better. There's some amazing minds here...be patient.
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No need for a glimmer of hope to be spread. Better to have no hope and be impressed than have hope and be depressed, imo.
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Who is working on the boot loader unlock for our variant of the s5? Is anyone?
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With a phone this popular, I can't imagine the bootloader will never be unlocked. Either Samsung will do so, or someone will fix it.
Not to be a doubter, but considering the S4 is reaching a year and a half without its bootloader being cracked put a damper on this one. Not sure if it has been improved more. I do believe it is being worked on. I hope that if one gets cracked the other will shortly thereafter.
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Not to be a doubter, but considering the S4 is reaching a year and a half without its bootloader being cracked put a damper on this one. Not sure if it has been improved more. I do believe it is being worked on. I hope that if one gets cracked the other will shortly thereafter.
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An exploit was actually shown at Black Hat a few weeks ago showing a permanent bootloader unlock for the S4 and various other devices, but no S5
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An exploit was actually shown at Black Hat a few weeks ago showing a permanent bootloader unlock for the S4 and various other devices, but no S5
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It is still yet to be accomplished on the S4 (I am aware a demonstration was made). It should theoretically work on the S5 as well since it is nearly identical to the S5 in internals. (Those who want to disagree, go ahead. It is just my opinion that they are nearly identical). The exploit was for the particular setup in Snapdragon devices if I recall correctly, which that setup is present in the AT&T S5.
While the devices listed are unpatched and devices like the S5 are patched, it is my opinion that one can always pull back a patch for a problem. We see it all the time with Root. I'm just not talented enough to know how to do that level of work.
Hello,
I am just wondering, where is the latest news on the progress of our bootloader being unlocked? Or atleast where can I get any kind of info on how to do it? Cause I'll be dead honest, I turned on my galaxy S3 and missed the CM experience. I just want to get this thing unlocked so I can enjoy our phone, instead of being OK with what ATT gives us, cause its kinda dumb.
thanks for any information at all, cause I'd honestly dedicate my phone to the effort.
-Gulik
If u got s3 them u in wrong forum. Needed to go to att s3 forum.
Samsung unlock bootloader on SM-G870A ...
No no, I have both. I am using my S5, but I miss my S3 because of CM. I just want to help with this somehow.
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Also would love an answer to this question! Im came from a nexus 5 too so this really bothers me. ALL THIS ANDROID L IS MAKIN ME ANXIOUS TO GET A GLORIOUS CM ROM ON MY PHONE
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there will never be unlocked by at&t, this company is closed by capitalist political protection of the operator's own functions.
well I sold the phone, it is unfortunate, it is a good phone, it's amazing the difference g900a g900f with the operating system.
The g900f has everything unlocked functions representing the galaxy s5.
I recommend that you do not fall into the scam at&t.
I hate to be pessimistic, but with the arrival of "android 5" I doubt that at&t update these terminals, is a company that has a reputation of leaving obsolete phones.
I would easily pay 25-50 dollars for an unlock tool (like Sunshine for HTC/Motorola devices) for the G900A. While I do appreciate Safestrap and all its glory, I really, really, want stock android L on our device. Because somewhere...... a Samsung engineer is looking at L thinking "how can we screw this one up..."
All I'm saying is this, I'm not too savy with hacking or low level coding; but I hope that if Samsung does push out Android L and that there is some sort of exploit or bug that will allow us to root/unlock the boot loader since it would be a fairly new os compared to that of ICS/KK.
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Im just hoping devs get the bootloader unlocked before the end of 2014, but sadly i dont know if it will ever be unlocked
Why can't we pull a boot loader encryption key from an update?
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I would easily pay 25-50 dollars for an unlock tool (like Sunshine for HTC/Motorola devices) for the G900A. While I do appreciate Safestrap and all its glory, I really, really, want stock android L on our device. Because somewhere...... a Samsung engineer is looking at L thinking "how can we screw this one up..."
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Be careful what you wish for...
"L" has a whole new set of challenges....
Init commands are no more...
So our traditional root and superuser mechanisms are gone...
Google did this on purpose in the name of security..
So not only are the carriers locking us out..but Google is turning into the new apple....
So much for open source and freedom to create....g
Man screw this s5 I'm going to fire back up my s3 . I'm missing cm big time
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Why can't we pull a boot loader encryption key from an update?
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What you're describing is basically breaking an encryption, which is out of the realm of possibility. It would be far easier (and has still not happened yet) to literally steal the keys from Samsung. I believe previous bootloaders have been unlocked this way. If a lock is unpickable, then I'll just steal the key from the guy who has it right?
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What you're describing is basically breaking an encryption, which is out of the realm of possibility. It would be far easier (and has still not happened yet) to literally steal the keys from Samsung. I believe previous bootloaders have been unlocked this way. If a lock is unpickable, then I'll just steal the key from the guy who has it right?
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Sounds good to me .
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If the T-Mobile version is unlocked why can't we just make it think it's the same phone, or just switch out the boot loader somehow. Maybe someone understands what I'm saying ?
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If the T-Mobile version is unlocked why can't we just make it think it's the same phone, or just switch out the boot loader somehow. Maybe someone understands what I'm saying ?
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That's not going to ever happen. The bootloader is locked down to prevent that. You need to unlock our bootloader before you could ever switch them.
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If the T-Mobile version is unlocked why can't we just make it think it's the same phone, or just switch out the boot loader somehow. Maybe someone understands what I'm saying ?
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That's not going to ever happen. The bootloader is locked down to prevent that. You need to unlock our bootloader before you could ever switch them.
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Technically you are correct however, Odin can flash BootLoaders but alas we are back to if we had the "keys" we wouldnt need to try to flash a TMO BL.
viscous circle we are in
Do you guys think it will ever happen? I mean realistically
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Do you guys think it will ever happen? I mean realistically
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Doubtful
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Doubtful
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Man that sucks... I expected the type of options like I had with my s3.hmmm
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Man that sucks... I expected the type of options like I had with my s3.hmmm
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I love my S5 rooted running a killer Rom beautifully themed with great battery life and debloated. I've had a Galaxy S series since the S2. My S3 was a decent phone but this S5 is a beast.
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So there's a method of rooting the stock Note 3 without tripping Knox => http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-to-root-nf4-knox-0x0-effortless-nf4-t2846142
Wondering if there's been a way yet for the Note 4 for this to happen?
Thanks.
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So there's a method of rooting the stock Note 3 without tripping Knox => http://forum.xda-developers.com/not...-to-root-nf4-knox-0x0-effortless-nf4-t2846142
Wondering if there's been a way yet for the Note 4 for this to happen?
Thanks.
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That thread has been around since August. I would venture to say if there was a way, we would have it here. It's unfortunate, but it really doesn't cause nearly as many issues as people think it would. There have been plenty of members to make warranty claims and return their devices to T-Mobile and a word hasn't been said. Most workers at T-Mobile probably don't even know to look for it; they have so many phones they deal with on a daily basis that checking for knox being tripped isn't on their priority list.
I'm using it on ATT though and bought off contract.
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I'm using it on ATT though and bought off contract.
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I can't speak for the AT&T version, however I don't believe anyone has found a way to root without tripping knox. It kind of became accepted that to root you'll trip it.
Cool. I did that on my old Note e
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Asked and answered numerous times.
Short answer: Nope
Reason why: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54709275&postcount=5234
Search on Tapatalk is horrible. Thanks.
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Search on Tapatalk is horrible. Thanks.
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Agreed. Tapatalk is terrible for searching.
Use Google instead
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Asked and answered numerous times.
Short answer: Nope
Reason why: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=54709275&postcount=5234
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I have read that there are Tmobile Note 4 with Rent A Center firmware installed and people are able to install "normal " Tmobile firmware without tripping Knox. That would mean that there is a way to keep Knox at 0 and install modified firmware. I just wonder if that requires special equipment to flash those phones to RAC modification or simply people didn't discover "trick" yet?
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I'm really disappointed. Was waiting for someone to get towel root to work.
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I have read that there are Tmobile Note 4 with Rent A Center firmware installed and people are able to install "normal " Tmobile firmware without tripping Knox. That would mean that there is a way to keep Knox at 0 and install modified firmware. I just wonder if that requires special equipment to flash those phones to RAC modification or simply people didn't discover "trick" yet?
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Interesting. Didn't even know this existed.
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DPMAce said:
I'm really disappointed. Was waiting for someone to get towel root to work.
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Me too!
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DPMAce said:
I'm really disappointed. Was waiting for someone to get towel root to work.
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I've been waiting for this too but looks like no one is working on it
And it seems like after rooting, we must flash a custom rom or else some of the features will not work.
I hope to be getting a job in a couple of months, and would love to use my note 4 there. But not sure if they will let me use a phone with Knox tripped.
Rent a center is considered as... Sort of a provider. They have an agreement with Samsung which enables them to install custom firmware, which if it is similar to their laptops, allows them to "lock" the device if their RIDICULOUSLY expensive payments are not made. Its fraud insurance in a way.
I am not sure how you would go about getting around knox. But I wouldn't hold my breath. Its looking like it might be a little while...
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My friend bought his note 4 with rent a center it does have a firmware different than tmobile, my friend updated using kies and it installed all of the tmobile bloat and basically the stock rom, with knox already Tripp when he bought it
We need root on this phone. hopefully someone will be able to succeed on getting root soon!
lucky_strike33 said:
We need root on this phone. hopefully someone will be able to succeed on getting root soon!
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Hopefully
So what is the hold up. Is it just the Verizon variant that is lacking root? I thought the other variants had root? Not one post in the development sections. Weird.
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So what is the hold up. Is it just the Verizon variant that is lacking root? I thought the other variants had root? Not one post in the development sections. Weird.
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Verizon and AT&T don't have root. All others do
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jasonbiggs said:
So what is the hold up. Is it just the Verizon variant that is lacking root? I thought the other variants had root? Not one post in the development sections. Weird.
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Nothing posted in the DEV section yet because we don't have root, and as far as I know there hasn't been a VZW Dev edition released yet (and I'm doubting there will be with the production issues they've had getting the regular GS6E's out).
Trust me, we all (or mostly all?) want root, but we have to be patient - i'd be blown away if we got a root solution before the Note 4.
What I thought of course. But there should at least be a post or two saying: hey, I'm so and so dev. Im working on root. Will post back in a few days when completed. Lol
When you root your device, the integrity gets breached, which is necessary for important and sensitive features like mobile payments. :good:
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When you root your device, the integrity gets breached, which is necessary for important and sensitive features like mobile payments. :good:
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Who cares. Don't even use the features.
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lucky_strike33 said:
Who cares. Don't even use the features.
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At&t and Verizon cares.
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At&t and Verizon cares.
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if you care why read root threads on xda?
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Well if those so called "caring" companies would give us customers a little bit more control of our phones to get rid of some of their crapware, etc., then I would be all for it but they keep the lock on too tight as far as I'm concerned.
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What I thought of course. But there should at least be a post or two saying: hey, I'm so and so dev. Im working on root. Will post back in a few days when completed. Lol
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i lold at this post.. you dont just have a new device come out and a dev say it will take him a few days... the note 4 has been out for many months now and is still not rooted.. if you want to know where devs are at check those threads because they are working on rooting that device currently..
there is i believe only one L exploit that would not help in gettimg root available right now so until more exploits are found we dont stand a chance with root
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I'm not holding my breathe on root for this phone I don't see it happening any time soon
XTRoRDiNAiRE said:
I'm not holding my breathe on root for this phone I don't see it happening any time soon
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You don't read the right threads then.
http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2015/q2/333
I came off a RAZR HD MAXX, and have always had Moto phones (this is my first non-moto phone), but I read in at least 2 places that root cannot be had on this phone because verizon and AT&T have locked bootloaders. Now, Im not sure what the boot loader has to do with getting root, because with my Motos I always rooted before unlocking the BL (on the phones I had that UL the BL was an option), but it just doesnt sound right.
I dont think I want to use custom ROMs any longer, I just want to use root apps. Really hoping someone finds an exploit for it.
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You don't read the right threads then.
http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2015/q2/333
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awesome find. now this is for the note 4 kit kat right?
lucky_strike33 said:
awesome find. now this is for the note 4 kit kat right?
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I believe it is for all kernels up to May 2015.
It has been tested on the S6, and should work for any phone with a vulnerable kernel.
It should result in a root tool similar to towelroot.
jlang11 said:
I came off a RAZR HD MAXX, and have always had Moto phones (this is my first non-moto phone), but I read in at least 2 places that root cannot be had on this phone because verizon and AT&T have locked bootloaders. Now, Im not sure what the boot loader has to do with getting root, because with my Motos I always rooted before unlocking the BL (on the phones I had that UL the BL was an option), but it just doesnt sound right.
I dont think I want to use custom ROMs any longer, I just want to use root apps. Really hoping someone finds an exploit for it.
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You havent been on my roms then .. Its a stripped down bare bone stock rom with slight tweaks/mods.. i did try theming before but with theme engine now its pointless to theme it now..
My rom is the Extreme Syndicate rom in the Verizon S5 thread.. will develop for the verizon gs6 edge when possible and most likely make some buids for att s6 edge as well
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You havent been on my roms then .. Its a stripped down bare bone stock rom with slight tweaks/mods.. i did try theming before but with theme engine now its pointless to theme it now..
My rom is the Extreme Syndicate rom in the Verizon S5 thread.. will develop for the verizon gs6 edge when possible and most likely make some buids for att s6 edge as well
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I cant wait to have this
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I cant wait to have this
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in the root thread the dev is saying theyre having some issues with the edge due to qc hardware we that means
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