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Hi everyone, I'm thinking of buying the 4XHD as I can get it for a very good price (far cheaper than the one x or S3).
I have a few questions about the phone though, and reading the forums brought up more questions.
1. Are there actually any Kernels or Roms for the phone as I cant find any in the developer section and has the phone actually got a unlocked bootloader as some people said they had, others they hadn't.
2. What are the chances of the phone either getting an official 4.1 update or getting an unlocked bootloader (I can't tell if it already is) with which a custom 4.1 ROM can be flashed onto the phone.
3. How well does the 4XHD actually do in games as in my research I found one thread about lag and that is all. How do games like Nova 3, Asphalt 7 and Need For Speed: Most Wanted play? On the nexus 7, nova 3 (without custom kernel) was really laggy and I'm wondering how it will perform on the 4XHD.
4. Secondly, without a new Kernel being developed, is there currently anyway to overclock the GPU in the phone as I have read on one post about changing the kernel governor (here) or is this just using SetCPU?
5. Regarding SetCPU, does it help out with gaming performance the same way it helped out the One X (or was that purely because the one x used the Ondemand governor, which performs worse than the Interactive governor of the stock 4XHD)?
Thankyou everyone for reading this.
There are no Rom or kernels but u can under clock the CPU and i use no frills CPU to have the phone running. On 760 MHz and 51 and it performs well for gaming I just put it on the highest and no lag. I would install a CPU app because it seems that without it on it when u listen to music it skips quite frequently with screen of but with an CPU manager it is fixed even on 51 it won't skip. Other then that. I do not have any of the lag other report. It is a very capable phone. I would not install setcpu it does not seem to stick and work right. I tried to set it back to 1500 with setcpu and it stopped at 1ghz but no frills CPU works with no issue. I hope that helps u somewhat.
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Thanks, if you are using Nofrills and you set the min CPU clock higher does this actually translate into better gaming performance (does it change the governor and the GPU performance ) or is it just better for saving battery life when you don't need high performance? Do you actually need any extra speed or is it fine in games - the one x, even taking into consideration the larger user base, there seems to be far more laggy games complaints.
Yes I set it too 1500 min and max and i have no lag I also select governor power no lag. I hope it works for. Don't forget after done with gaming to change the CPU back to how busy want it and also not to use power because then I always stays at the possible highest CPU u selected.
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For gaming do performance otherwise do not. And the hox seems to still have a less optimize tegra 3 supports in it. The 4x hd is faster.
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Also u might wanna consider when playing games to like really turn everything off so u want sync with anything or text really I know it sucks but turning of dta and cellular and then playing games will make for no lag also make sure u pretty much cleared all running apps as well.
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Ok Thanks, that basically answers all of my concerns. I,m not too sure about getting 4.1 (Custom ROM or not) but it isn't that necessary. 4.0 is still great.
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MrKalo said:
Hi everyone, I'm thinking of buying the 4XHD as I can get it for a very good price (far cheaper than the one x or S3).
I have a few questions about the phone though, and reading the forums brought up more questions.
1. Are there actually any Kernels or Roms for the phone as I cant find any in the developer section and has the phone actually got a unlocked bootloader as some people said they had, others they hadn't.
2. What are the chances of the phone either getting an official 4.1 update or getting an unlocked bootloader (I can't tell if it already is) with which a custom 4.1 ROM can be flashed onto the phone.
3. How well does the 4XHD actually do in games as in my research I found one thread about lag and that is all. How do games like Nova 3, Asphalt 7 and Need For Speed: Most Wanted play? On the nexus 7, nova 3 (without custom kernel) was really laggy and I'm wondering how it will perform on the 4XHD.
4. Secondly, without a new Kernel being developed, is there currently anyway to overclock the GPU in the phone as I have read on one post about changing the kernel governor (here) or is this just using SetCPU?
5. Regarding SetCPU, does it help out with gaming performance the same way it helped out the One X (or was that purely because the one x used the Ondemand governor, which performs worse than the Interactive governor of the stock 4XHD)?
Thankyou everyone for reading this.
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buy it , its great piece of smartphone
First time posting here. And first time user of custom ROMs.
I recently unlocked my Incredible S and flashed VivoKat 4.4 by szezso on it. It is a nice build and most things work in beta quite well; however, I don't have permissions to post on that board to report bugs and ask other build related questions, like how is battery life compared to other ROMs.
I noticed I barely get 1 battery charge per day, whereas I used to get 2 days with my old gingerbread.
So I was wondering if I should go with an older ROM, feature complete, that might have better battery life. If so, which build do you recommend?
Thanks
PS: to the guys on the VivoKat thread (since I can't post there), here are some of the bigger bugs I found:
- microphone doesn't work on speaker mode
- physical buttons don't work if you disable touch-vibration on them
- main screen icons/shortcuts disappear from time to time if the apps crash
Question:
- to install today's update of VivoKat do I need to wipe everything (all data) and flash the new version, or can I update without wiping everything clean?
- I have the full "ROM manager" app, but it doesn't find updates for this build. Will that be available at some point?
(I really like the look of 4.4 on this custom ROM so it's be nice to help out with finding bugs - good work szezso)
goodrix said:
First time posting here. And first time user of custom ROMs.
I recently unlocked my Incredible S and flashed VivoKat 4.4 by szezso on it. It is a nice build and most things work in beta quite well; however, I don't have permissions to post on that board to report bugs and ask other build related questions, like how is battery life compared to other ROMs.
I noticed I barely get 1 battery charge per day, whereas I used to get 2 days with my old gingerbread.
So I was wondering if I should go with an older ROM, feature complete, that might have better battery life. If so, which build do you recommend?
Thanks
PS: to the guys on the VivoKat thread (since I can't post there), here are some of the bigger bugs I found:
- microphone doesn't work on speaker mode
- physical buttons don't work if you disable touch-vibration on them
- main screen icons/shortcuts disappear from time to time if the apps crash
Question:
- to install today's update of VivoKat do I need to wipe everything (all data) and flash the new version, or can I update without wiping everything clean?
- I have the full "ROM manager" app, but it doesn't find updates for this build. Will that be available at some point?
(I really like the look of 4.4 on this custom ROM so it's be nice to help out with finding bugs - good work szezso)
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That's the actual battery life. With each new android version, you have a lot more processes running in the background. A lot more Google processes too
It should be ok to just flash the update, but if you run into bugs, don't report them as developers don't have a way of telling whether its from issues caused from dirty flash or from the actual ROM itself.
No it will never be available in the ROM manager app. ROM Manager does not search XDA for ROMs and VivoKat is ported by Szeszo personally.
Thanks.
That answers my questions.
And battery life improved after turning off "Location"
You can also log-out from different accounts such as fb, and so one. some of apps are eating battery. For example some email clients...
moreover, you can turn off wifi
you use Vivokat as your daily driver, that one seems still in beta stage
according to my search, i have see many kernel of the ROM is overclock feature.
but the overclock is power consumption.
for now i have using the cyanvivo,
i de-overclock his GPU and it seems become normal.
otakux said:
according to my search, i have see many kernel of the ROM is overclock feature.
but the overclock is power consumption.
for now i have using the cyanvivo,
i de-overclock his GPU and it seems become normal.
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Overclocking uses more battery because of both freq and voltage
Simple equation is this
Power used= freq * voltage^2
So if you lower the voltage to the same as the prev max freq, then you will be using more power still. Just fyi cause I don't think it's ever been brought up around here
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poondog said:
Overclocking uses more battery because of both freq and voltage
Simple equation is this
Power used= freq * voltage^2
So if you lower the voltage to the same as the prev max freq, then you will be using more power still. Just fyi cause I don't think it's ever been brought up around here
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according to my test, i just lower the frequency to the normal.
and it actually consume less power.
so de-overlock is work for me.
otakux said:
according to my test, i just lower the frequency to the normal.
and it actually consume less power.
so de-overlock is work for me.
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Voltage changes should make a lot of difference too. But not as evident on the vivo as on big quad core snapdragons
The Gpu oc is not really overclock, it's forcing to 245mhz to up performance
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i did not explain my kernel.
the kernel that i using is default overclocking.
my work just tweak it to the normal.
before tuning, in idle situation, one day could consume a battery.
after tuning, a battery could use more than one day.
i just want it back to normal.
i do not know that it is really OC, but according to my test.
the frequency is actually higher that it default.
up to 353Mhz, default is 245M.
so i could sure it is overclocking.
this data is collected in it's kernel, the real runtime data.
otakux said:
i did not explain my kernel.
the kernel that i using is default overclocking.
my work just tweak it to the normal.
before tuning, in idle situation, one day could consume a battery.
after tuning, a battery could use more than one day.
i just want it back to normal.
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Ahh, so you've got the stock acpuclock freq table I get it
You have git public so we can understand?
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poondog said:
Ahh, so you've got the stock acpuclock freq table I get it
You have git public so we can understand?
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my work just tweak back the GPU, not CPU.
i am still think that i need to tweak the CPU back to normal or not.
because i did not ask the author that i could post or not.
now the code just store in my computer.
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this is the original kernel that i used.
tesco kernel
https://github.com/szezso/T.E.S.C.O-kernel_vivo
otakux said:
my work just tweak back the GPU, not CPU.
i am still think that i need to tweak the CPU back to normal or not.
because i did not ask the author that i could post or not.
now the code just store in my computer.
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this is the original kernel that i used.
tesco kernel
https://github.com/szezso/T.E.S.C.O-kernel_vivo
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kernel code is GPL, if you got it from a publicly available source then no permissions really needed
If you come up with anything that you think may be beneficial.. maybe me or @szezso can work on integrating it or you can post it somewhere
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kernel code is GPL, if you got it from a publicly available source then no permissions really needed
If you come up with anything that you think may be beneficial.. maybe me or @szezso can work on integrating it or you can post it somewhere
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OK, i will.
the most benefit thing to me for now is to create other branch that did not overclock the GPU.
it will help solve the battery consume problem.
And split the kernel version, i need to manually search commit to find the cm 10.2's kernel.
otakux said:
OK, i will.
the most benefit thing to me for now is to create other branch that did not overclock the GPU.
it will help solve the battery consume problem.
And split the kernel version, i need to manually search commit to find the cm 10.2's kernel.
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Coolies
The CM 10, 10.1, 10.2, 11 kernels are built from the same source
poondog said:
Coolies
The CM 10, 10.1, 10.2, 11 kernels are built from the same source
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yes, but now the newest master is a beta version branch.
building that kernel will causing error.
you maybe need to post which the commit url that the cm version is using
by the way, i also patch another new feature in my kernel.
otakux said:
yes, but now the newest master is a beta version branch.
building that kernel will causing error.
you maybe need to post which the commit url that the cm version is using
by the way, i also patch another new feature in my kernel.
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Maybe the git is not up to date, have not tried compiling his CM kernel, or any vivo kernel for that matter for MONTHS
What is the error? And what is this feature
poondog said:
Maybe the git is not up to date, have not tried compiling his CM kernel, or any vivo kernel for that matter for MONTHS
What is the error? And what is this feature
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i have compile the newer code.
the error is after boot, nothing show on the screen.
feature is about disk IO, know as BFQ.
it could use just by apply patch, no need to change code by manually
otakux said:
i have compile the newer code.
the error is after boot, nothing show on the screen.
feature is about disk IO, know as BFQ.
it could use just by apply patch, no need to change code by manually
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Oh nice. I do have the best results on my One with fiops, deadline, row though
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Oh nice. I do have the best results on my One with fiops, deadline, row though
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yep, but according to my linux desktop test, bfq is more better than cfq.
Guys, Yesterday I updated mu MIUI from v5 to v6. The Antutu benchmark was around 32,000 with v5 and it has how jumper to around to 43,000 after the update to v6!
That is one massive improvement in the ROM kernel it seems.
What are you experiences?
my experience? MIUI v6 sucks. big time.
they wanted to make it simpler, in my opinion its way more complicated now.
they took away many features of v5
apps keep crashing, google stuff doesn't work at all.
camera app is useless.
and so on.
that the whole UI looks like IOS now doesn't help either. every time you pull up the toggles i nearly puked. - ok -than can be fixed down the road with a decent theme but right now there ain't any.
back to v5 and .22 - if you ask me, the performance gain is NOT worth all the hassle.
vivzek said:
Guys, Yesterday I updated mu MIUI from v5 to v6. The Antutu benchmark was around 32,000 with v5 and it has how jumper to around to 43,000 after the update to v6!
That is one massive improvement in the ROM kernel it seems.
What are you experiences?
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The huge difference comes from the fact that you used Antutu 4 final on Miui5 and Antutu 5 beta on Miui6. Try installing Antutu 4 on Miui 6 and then see what scores you get.
linr76 said:
my experience? MIUI v6 sucks. big time.
1. they took away many features of v5
2. apps keep crashing,
3. google stuff doesn't work at all.
4. camera app is useless.
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1. That's true
2+3. I don't have those problems, maybe you should try clean install. In fact, I don't get any force closes and Gapps works just like they did in v5
4. That is also true
Also, we need to keep in mind that is a developer version. The stable version appears only in October.
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Also, we need to keep in mind that is a developer version. The stable version appears only in October.
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sure, but i doubt the ipone look will go away...
this release is hardly fit for a daily driver, just too much not working or constricted - go look at all the bug reports etc.
as i am playing with it some more, even the MIUI5 is still full of bugs, some of them have been around for a long long time and i doubt they will ever be fixed.
Lets hope the kernel source is available soon, as promised, then AOSP / CM/ here i come.
Personally its not the iphone look that pisses me of the most. But the feature loss is absolutelly unexcusable. I feel like i have a crappier phone now somehow...
Go CM11
The RAM Optimization is helping the UI is future ready for Android L hence ditching the menu button to recent with was irritating.
The Battery is still not optimized and I really want the Auto-Brightness like the CM11.
The iOS look is good using most of the 1080p resolution they have done a good job.
I now have 1GB of free RAM now but I never got any problem with RAM even if it was at 400MB free or 200MB.
My hopes for future updates are:
1.Auto-Brightness like CM11
2.Less resource usage more leading to more Free RAM.
3.Power Saver Mode and Battery Optimization.
4.English Themes,Mi Store,Games,etc
5.And something unexpected
Overall Happy with MIUI v6 than MIUI v5
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reneftw said:
The huge difference comes from the fact that you used Antutu 4 final on Miui5 and Antutu 5 beta on Miui6. Try installing Antutu 4 on Miui 6 and then see what scores you get.
1. That's true
2+3. I don't have those problems, maybe you should try clean install. In fact, I don't get any force closes and Gapps works just like they did in v5
4. That is also true
Also, we need to keep in mind that is a developer version. The stable version appears only in October.
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see the tips of MIUI v6 you have to slide left and right to get more options like HDR etc
vivzek said:
Guys, Yesterday I updated mu MIUI from v5 to v6. The Antutu benchmark was around 32,000 with v5 and it has how jumper to around to 43,000 after the update to v6!
That is one massive improvement in the ROM kernel it seems.
What are you experiences?
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Dude, you have the new Antutu app, i'm on miui 23(stable international version) V5 and score 44000.It's not related with the version of miui, In fact V6 is not as stable and functional as v5.
To my AnTuTu not have reliability scores vary in each update.
Important to see the fluidity and functionality of the phone, not your score in an application.
A greeting.
I think the benchmark scores dont really matter as much as the user experience. The benchmark scores might be lower but i'm getting a bit more lag around the interface, maybe the new apps just arent optimised yet. What do you guys think? Plus I dont think the Mi3 has any problems with gaming performance so any improvement wouldnt be very noticeable
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MIUI V6 looks more heavier skinned compared to the V5. Not really surprised if perfomance turned into a crawl. Im getting the MI3 and won't update it to the V6 version. Its still new. Maybe give some time and the bugs shld be gone
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Been using v6 for quire some time now. IT does has some limitations like some less options in the notification pane and some awkward menu options, ok a ****ty camera app, but still it is preety smooth. ITs a beta version and new developments will keep coming as the devs keep on progressing... The interface is smooth just like v5 but if you want to keep progressing then u got to start using it as it will be the standard later on.
I personally like the MIUI 6 look...It has the polished look of iOS with the functionality of Android...
Admitted a lotta features are still missing, but I am assuming they will be added in final builds...(if they are not, then yeah, dual boot AOSP ROMs for me too...)
And when you got 32000ish scores in Antutu, did you have Performance mode ON?
I'm glad that I'm not alone (hugs) . This V6 is a flat fiasco, a dull imitation of the f..g Iphone
linr76 said:
my experience? MIUI v6 sucks. big time.
they wanted to make it simpler, in my opinion its way more complicated now.
they took away many features of v5
apps keep crashing, google stuff doesn't work at all.
camera app is useless.
and so on.
that the whole UI looks like IOS now doesn't help either. every time you pull up the toggles i nearly puked. - ok -than can be fixed down the road with a decent theme but right now there ain't any.
back to v5 and .22 - if you ask me, the performance gain is NOT worth all the hassle.
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TiTAN-O-One said:
MIUI V6 looks more heavier skinned compared to the V5. Not really surprised if perfomance turned into a crawl. Im getting the MI3 and won't update it to the V6 version. Its still new. Maybe give some time and the bugs shld be gone
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Well thats true seem ppl finding the os an ios replica are correct as the main stuff we are actually looking for is the ram and battery optimisation.
Moreover it seems to be screwed up with the new ui hope they come up with something solid till the official
I reverted back to 4.8.22 I've got a lot of problems on v6 dont like the camera,browser,battery life it messed up my root access,messed up also my touch screen, I've got ghost touches everywhere.
My personal opinion is that i m in love with the ui performance and what not.
Its buttery smooth, no lag, and it feels pretty awesome to use such a beautiful UI.
Ya but its true the camera app is a bit f***ed up but nevermind its just a beta one. Its going to get updated in a much better way so keep updating.
- Sent via cool MiUi v6.
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I reverted back to 4.8.22 I've got a lot of problems on v6 dont like the camera,browser,battery life it messed up my root access,messed up also my touch screen, I've got ghost touches everywhere.
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Whew! Glad to hear the ghost touch thing is a MIUI 6 bug...
I updated to MIUI 6 as soon as I got my Mi3 and get ghost touch too (mostly while charging)...
Stop Blaming For FC and other issues like some missing features in MIUI v5 and etc in Beta release of MIUI v6:silly:
Because its still in Beta test so when it comes in Stable State talk about it more..
Miui laaagggggs?
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One of the best things of using an android phone is the customization it offers. But, as with other things in life , sharing the way you experiment and customize your device makes it even better!. You can learn things from other users, share tips or information or just brag about performance or style.
So if you feel like it, share your setup here, it can be as simple as the customization you've made in the moto maker or a skin you bought for the device, to a rom or kernel you've tweaked. Who knows, maybe you'll find something cool here to implement on your own setup.
I'm making mine on a separate post so i don't make the first post too big.
So, currently i have an xt1542. I wonder why xda doesn't have spoiler or image resizing in post creation, it's a pity.
Here's and album in imgur so you can see the photos. http://imgur.com/a/somYH
I also bought a Case for it, because i'm super goofy, althought i don't like the bulk added to the device.
Currently i'm using the custom stock rom developed by amansingh63, pretty stable and reliable.
I tweaked the kernel a little bit, with kernel aduitor, changed my cpu and gpu governors to ondemand, and bumped the zram to 1000mb.
I did this because i also use the viperatmos mod http://forum.xda-developers.com/nexus-6/themes-apps/viper4android-t2952137, with the audiophile profile he recommends in that post, and when i use it with interactive i can hear some annoying noises, and in ondemand the noises are still there but they are a little bit less audible, and the audio quality you get is very well worth it.
I have xposed installed with this modules, greenify and amplify are a must if you have xposed installed, battery life does strech out a little bit with them.
Using nova launcher and month calendar with aurora ui icon pack, i like a lot the way it looks.
Currently i'm keeping stock apps, i tried the new moto g4 apps that recently appeared and even though i liked them, you can't really beat stock stability. One particular feature i love about the device is the gestures for the camera and the flashlight.
Battery life gets me trough the day, kinda wish i could get more out of it but overall it covers my needs.
Performance is good for my usage, i'm not a heavy gamer and i mostly use it for browsing, social networking and as my primary music device. So far really happy with the phone and my setup, but there's always room for improvement!
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Hey guys. I usually wouldnt have made a thread like this, but honestly, i am getting tired trying rom after rom to find the one that works. I am the sort of guy who switches phones pretty often because i like what Devs at XDA are able to do to customize them. So i have recently started using higher end phones, and coming from mid-rangers i expected awesome performance and lag free experience. My last device was a one plus 2. After switching to mi5(which has a better processor), i have been experiencing lag spikes with rom. None of them work perfectly smooth, I would go to the depth of saying that my old Nexus 5 provides much smoother experience compared to this. Surprisingly, this is not the case with miui. The stock Miui rom aswell as my current rom(cpMIUI) are both super smooth(as is expected out of a sd820). I am stock android guy though, also google camera port doesnt work on miui. I just wanted to confirm if it was just my unit or is everyone facing similar issues. Buying a sd820, i dont expect something as simple as pulling down the notification bar to be laggy. Also. this issue is more prominent with Lineage OS and Lineage OS based roms. I found AOSP rooms to be generally smoother, but still, laggy enough to notice. This really wasnt the case with OP2, and i honestly wouldnt have switched if it wasnt for the amazing camera of Mi5(only with GcamMod ). Any help would be much appreciated. PS: I have tried custom kernels, even those which overclock this sd820 to normal frequencies. But no luck . I really dont have the budget to switch phones rn, and i would like to stick to mi5. Hope someone can help.
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Hey guys. I usually wouldnt have made a thread like this, but honestly, i am getting tired trying rom after rom to find the one that works. I am the sort of guy who switches phones pretty often because i like what Devs at XDA are able to do to customize them. So i have recently started using higher end phones, and coming from mid-rangers i expected awesome performance and lag free experience. My last device was a one plus 2. After switching to mi5(which has a better processor), i have been experiencing lag spikes with rom. None of them work perfectly smooth, I would go to the depth of saying that my old Nexus 5 provides much smoother experience compared to this. Surprisingly, this is not the case with miui. The stock Miui rom aswell as my current rom(cpMIUI) are both super smooth(as is expected out of a sd820). I am stock android guy though, also google camera port doesnt work on miui. I just wanted to confirm if it was just my unit or is everyone facing similar issues. Buying a sd820, i dont expect something as simple as pulling down the notification bar to be laggy. Also. this issue is more prominent with Lineage OS and Lineage OS based roms. I found AOSP rooms to be generally smoother, but still, laggy enough to notice. This really wasnt the case with OP2, and i honestly wouldnt have switched if it wasnt for the amazing camera of Mi5(only with GcamMod ). Any help would be much appreciated. PS: I have tried custom kernels, even those which overclock this sd820 to normal frequencies. But no luck . I really dont have the budget to switch phones rn, and i would like to stick to mi5. Hope someone can help.
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Mi devices works better with MIUI... That's just the way it is. Custom rom experience on Mi can't compare with the likes of Oneplus, Nexus, or maybe Pixel...
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u can install Gcam in miui just use magisk to root and add camera fix module
Gcam will work in miui9
am using los15.1 and most of the apps freezed now its smooth and giving good battery life
All lags, freezes and scroll stutters caused by kernel. All oreo kernels based on HMP scheduling with perf daemon. And don't know why, but it cant provide smooth FPS while ui drawing (maybe some bug with frequency drops). So, 90% roms based on Oreo will lag while drawing UI all time (you can check it in dev settings > Profile GPU Rendering). Some roms trying to avoid this bug, like LOS, AEXMod with some tweaks in governor. This 2 roms much smoother than other. Or you can change default governor from Interactive to Conservative (root required). It brings massive boost on ui drawing smoothness. Or try something based on EAS kernels (Purefusion, JDC AOSP). But these roms based on 8.0 Oreo.
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All lags, freezes and scroll stutters caused by kernel. All oreo kernels based on HMP scheduling with perf daemon. And don't know why, but it cant provide smooth FPS while ui drawing (maybe some bug with frequency drops). So, 90% roms based on Oreo will lag while drawing UI all time (you can check it in dev settings > Profile GPU Rendering). Some roms trying to avoid this bug, like LOS, AEXMod with some tweaks in governor. This 2 roms much smoother than other. Or you can change default governor from Interactive to Conservative (root required). It brings massive boost on ui drawing smoothness. r try something based on EAS kernels (Purefusion, JDC AOSP). But these roms based on 8.0 Oreo.
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Thanks for a constructive reply. I am not using LOS because of the fingerprint delay bug, also i found LOS to be the laggiest of them all. But i recently installed Cosmic os 8.1, and this one seems to be rendering fine. It is using the priima kernel i suppose, with interactive governors and cfq for io scheduling. Also, i just checked, it has oc'ed the sd820 to normal frequencies (2.15 and .16)
Also, i have tried Floppy kernel, based on all 3, Google, linaro and ubertc. Also, i tried switching the governor to zen(the one i am aware of thats made to make your ui smoother). This issue is not only persistent with oreo roms, but also the nougat roms. But i have been happy and impressed by cosmic, but i will keep on switching roms and hopefully would be able to provide some feedback to the XDA community.
vaisakmct said:
u can install Gcam in miui just use magisk to root and add camera fix module
Gcam will work in miui9
am using los15.1 and most of the apps freezed now its smooth and giving good battery life
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I will try that one. Can you link me to the module thread?
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Hey guys. I usually wouldnt have made a thread like this, but honestly, i am getting tired trying rom after rom to find the one that works. I am the sort of guy who switches phones pretty often because i like what Devs at XDA are able to do to customize them. So i have recently started using higher end phones, and coming from mid-rangers i expected awesome performance and lag free experience. My last device was a one plus 2. After switching to mi5(which has a better processor), i have been experiencing lag spikes with rom. None of them work perfectly smooth, I would go to the depth of saying that my old Nexus 5 provides much smoother experience compared to this. Surprisingly, this is not the case with miui. The stock Miui rom aswell as my current rom(cpMIUI) are both super smooth(as is expected out of a sd820). I am stock android guy though, also google camera port doesnt work on miui. I just wanted to confirm if it was just my unit or is everyone facing similar issues. Buying a sd820, i dont expect something as simple as pulling down the notification bar to be laggy. Also. this issue is more prominent with Lineage OS and Lineage OS based roms. I found AOSP rooms to be generally smoother, but still, laggy enough to notice. This really wasnt the case with OP2, and i honestly wouldnt have switched if it wasnt for the amazing camera of Mi5(only with GcamMod ). Any help would be much appreciated. PS: I have tried custom kernels, even those which overclock this sd820 to normal frequencies. But no luck . I really dont have the budget to switch phones rn, and i would like to stick to mi5. Hope someone can help.
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Absolutely yes! People were blaming me also for using antutu, because I had this doubt, then discovered that the kernel uses a strange sort of cpu scheduler which causes a performance drop of 20/25%, (still can't fix switching performance profile) results were different switching to a custom kernel. I think that people when create new roms they just steal LOS kernel, so that's why this issue occurs in more than one rom.
Anyway I also prefer the stock android camera, and I like to use the "classic" way instead of magisk thing (never liked that), just download GCam, then remove in the framework folder the camera_experimental.jar (or something called like that) and you should be fine, there are some little bugs too but is is usable.
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Absolutely yes! People were blaming me also for using antutu, because I had this doubt, then discovered that the kernel uses a strange sort of cpu scheduler which causes a performance drop of 20/25%, (still can't fix switching performance profile) results were different switching to a custom kernel. I think that people when create new roms they just steal LOS kernel, so that's why this issue occurs in more than one rom.
Anyway I also prefer the stock android camera, and I like to use the "classic" way instead of magisk thing (never liked that), just download GCam, then remove in the framework folder the camera_experimental.jar (or something called like that) and you should be fine, there are some little bugs too but is is usable.
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So which kernel are you using rn? Cosmic OS comes with the priima kernel, it is the best experience i have had by far. Glad to know i am not the only one suffering stutters, but also kinda disappointed to see this happen.
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So which kernel are you using rn? Cosmic OS comes with the priima kernel, it is the best experience i have had by far. Glad to know i am not the only one suffering stutters, but also kinda disappointed to see this happen.
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Yea, me too, and there were people who treated me like crazy lmao, imo is a kernel scheduler issue, btw Idk why that happens , anyway there are plenty of custom kernels, in particular I used Floppy which fixes the problem.(Still need to tweak some kernel governor settings)
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Yea, me too, and there were people who treated me like crazy lmao, imo is a kernel scheduler issue, btw Idk why that happens , anyway there are plenty of custom kernels, in particular I used Floppy which fixes the problem.(Still need to tweak some kernel governor settings)
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Aye i tried floppy. Didnt quite work for me. Regardless, priima is working fine. I am thinking of switching to other roms. Will try the floppy again, thanks for the advice.
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Aye i tried floppy. Didnt quite work for me. Regardless, priima is working fine. I am thinking of switching to other roms. Will try the floppy again, thanks for the advice.
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When i said it needs some tweaks, that is because it works in a strange way, the performance profile in the "Battery" section of LOS needs to be set to something higher, that controls the CPU, meanwhile there I also used an app called "Spectrum" that lets you control the GPU performance profile (Even though it should be control CPU), you need to set all of those to "Balanced"
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When i said it needs some tweaks, that is because it works in a strange way, the performance profile in the "Battery" section of LOS needs to be set to something higher, that controls the CPU, meanwhile there I also used an app called "Spectrum" that lets you control the GPU performance profile (Even though it should be control CPU), you need to set all of those to "Balanced"
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Interesting. I am busy this weekend, but i will surely test this one after i come back.
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aditya1999 said:
Hey guys. I usually wouldnt have made a thread like this, but honestly, i am getting tired trying rom after rom to find the one that works. I am the sort of guy who switches phones pretty often because i like what Devs at XDA are able to do to customize them. So i have recently started using higher end phones, and coming from mid-rangers i expected awesome performance and lag free experience. My last device was a one plus 2. After switching to mi5(which has a better processor), i have been experiencing lag spikes with rom. None of them work perfectly smooth, I would go to the depth of saying that my old Nexus 5 provides much smoother experience compared to this. Surprisingly, this is not the case with miui. The stock Miui rom aswell as my current rom(cpMIUI) are both super smooth(as is expected out of a sd820). I am stock android guy though, also google camera port doesnt work on miui. I just wanted to confirm if it was just my unit or is everyone facing similar issues. Buying a sd820, i dont expect something as simple as pulling down the notification bar to be laggy. Also. this issue is more prominent with Lineage OS and Lineage OS based roms. I found AOSP rooms to be generally smoother, but still, laggy enough to notice. This really wasnt the case with OP2, and i honestly wouldnt have switched if it wasnt for the amazing camera of Mi5(only with GcamMod ). Any help would be much appreciated. PS: I have tried custom kernels, even those which overclock this sd820 to normal frequencies. But no luck . I really dont have the budget to switch phones rn, and i would like to stick to mi5. Hope someone can help.
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Hello, I have the same problem. My MI 5 only works on miui. Any other newer rom with android Oreo brings me problems, slow looks like snapdragon 4xx. Game performance gets horrible. But they are only in the most recent roms, because in the stable JDC Team 7.1.2 rom it behaves absurdly fluid and fast, in Lineage 14.1 as well. I do not know what causes this but I can not use any more Oreo roms. I prefer Pure Android but can not use the new roms at the moment, I should settle for the nougat or miui roms. Well, I'm not saying that the new roms are bad, the work of the developers is wonderful, congratulations to everyone, but something in the new roms does not behave well.
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Hello, I have the same problem. My MI 5 only works on miui. Any other newer rom with android Oreo brings me problems, slow looks like snapdragon 4xx. Game performance gets horrible. But they are only in the most recent roms, because in the stable JDC Team 7.1.2 rom it behaves absurdly fluid and fast, in Lineage 14.1 as well. I do not know what causes this but I can not use any more Oreo roms. I prefer Pure Android but can not use the new roms at the moment, I should settle for the nougat or miui roms. Well, I'm not saying that the new roms are bad, the work of the developers is wonderful, congratulations to everyone, but something in the new roms does not behave well.
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Try the cosmic os. It seems to be working amazingly well. Also Los never worked for me, full of stutters and the ofc the fingerprint delay on lockscreen issue. Also yeah, jdc aosp should work, in my experiments, all AOSP based roms are working fine, there is some issue with Los kernel, and hence with all roms based off of it.