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would tricking android work?

just a suggestion , seeing that android is booted from the storage card and windows mobile is still there in the backround storage wise why dont you try to trick android ..for instance remember there are some applications that are links to the download or activation of the actual program (example you download a java app and run it and it opens the browser to download the actual app) now my concept is similar
1 if android is being used from the storage card then the amount of ram should only be limited to the size of the memory card.(not sayin max your card on ram lol)
2 if windows mobile has drivers all working on the actual device then it should be possible( didnt say easy) to link a driver, activation or process from android to windows mobile
3 i came up with a test for concept if you save a andriod app on the device( x1i) and figure out a way to run it from a shortcut link or whatev while running android then it should be safe to say it can be done for stuff like drivers.
now i dunno if im making sence or i ate to much cake so reply and let me know
ps i dont puntuate cuz ur reading in ur fing mind

So first, android is completely separated from windows mobile. When you launch android, windows mobile will be shut down, so android takes full control over the device.
Your writing confuses me, so i don't understand your concept about tricking completely, but i will try to answer your questions:
1. What? You mean flash storage? I think you can change it's size in startup.txt, but i can't see a point in increasing it. New froyo build can install applications on card and you can store your data on card, so flash storage can stay clean.
2. I don't know much about drivers, but i think it's very hard if not impossible to use driver made for another OS. It's like you would want to use mac os drivers on windows.
3. ?

[Q] Windows Phone 8.1 - ram issues

Hello together,
I searched through the whole forum but I did not find any thread regarding the problem I have found.
I own a Nokia Lumia 1520 (RM-937). It was flashed with WP8 version from APAC.
I updated it to WP 8.1 via developer preview app.
Language and region is set to german/germany.
I have a 32 GB SD card.
Now its working almost as expected and with known issues.
But one thing is very bad: This device has almost 2 GB of usable ram. But when I minimize an app via Windows Button (e.g. Internet Explorer; only one tab opened) it constantly reloads the whole page after only 30 seconds of being minimized.
The same for other apps like amazon kindle.
It feels like an android device with only 512 MB of ram.
It only costs seconds. But IE eats all my contingent given by my provider. I have LTE enabled and the page is loaded so fast, that I cannot stop it.
With WP8 the browser stayed in memory even for days without reloading the pages.
So I expect that behaviour from WP8.1 too.
Reboot helps only for couple of minutes.
Even with all other apps closed (hold back button and swipe down the app to the bottom) that behaviour is there.
Someone here with equivalent experiences? Any help?
You can test this: Open IE. Load a website. Minimize via Start Button.
Open other apps and use them for a couple of minutes.
Afterwards open IE and look if the page is beeing reloaded.
Is there any method known to look, if there is any app that blocks the memory? Like a task manager?
Maybe it's only an error that happened during the update!?

MarioOrlando said:
Hello together,
I searched through the whole forum but I did not find any thread regarding the problem I have found.
I own a Nokia Lumia 1520 (RM-937). It was flashed with WP8 version from APAC.
I updated it to WP 8.1 via developer preview app.
Language and region is set to german/germany.
I have a 32 GB SD card.
Now its working almost as expected and with known issues.
But one thing is very bad: This device has almost 2 GB of usable ram. But when I minimize an app via Windows Button (e.g. Internet Explorer; only one tab opened) it constantly reloads the whole page after only 30 seconds of being minimized.
The same for other apps like amazon kindle.
It feels like an android device with only 512 MB of ram.
It only costs seconds. But IE eats all my contingent given by my provider. I have LTE enabled and the page is loaded so fast, that I cannot stop it.
With WP8 the browser stayed in memory even for days without reloading the pages.
So I expect that behaviour from WP8.1 too.
Reboot helps only for couple of minutes.
Even with all other apps closed (hold back button and swipe down the app to the bottom) that behaviour is there.
Someone here with equivalent experiences? Any help?
You can test this: Open IE. Load a website. Minimize via Start Button.
Open other apps and use them for a couple of minutes.
Afterwards open IE and look if the page is beeing reloaded.
Is there any method known to look, if there is any app that blocks the memory? Like a task manager?
Maybe it's only an error that happened during the update!?
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Windows phone 8.1 multitasking now is similar to windows 8 multitasking, that is, an app still runs in background for about 10 seconds after you leave the app.
The system also does a lot better at suspending apps and saving their state upon tombstone, so even if you leave the app and said app is automatically killed because you opened too many apps, the system will restore its original state when you open it again.
I do not have any issues with internet explorer running in background after i disabled all background communication for it from settings.

mcosmin222 said:
Windows phone 8.1 multitasking now is similar to windows 8 multitasking, that is, an app still runs in background for about 10 seconds after you leave the app.
The system also does a lot better at suspending apps and saving their state upon tombstone, so even if you leave the app and said app is automatically killed because you opened too many apps, the system will restore its original state when you open it again.
I do not have any issues with internet explorer running in background after i disabled all background communication for it from settings.
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Hi,
thanks for your answer.
I know these new behaviour and read about the differences.
Whats strange now: I uninstalled the app "Battery", deleted temporary files, made a system backup to OneDrive, copied some files from phone to my PC, installed the Microsoft App "Diagnosis" to give a message to the developers and now this strange behaviour is away so far.
Ok, I have to consider again, that this version is only a "Developer Preview".
When I have news about this problem, I'll give a message in this thread.

[Q] Slow startup

I have an Intel i7-4770 3.4GHz system with 24 GB of ram and it takes about 3-5 minutes to start Android Studio after clicking on the icon on the Desktop. I am running the latest Windows 8.1 OS.
Has anybody seen something like this? It didn't used to be so bad. I've been using it for about one year, from beta to the current stable release. Are there any fixes I can do to help this out? Maybe uninstalling and installing again?

It is the same in all Android Studio versions

adam_beers said:
I have an Intel i7-4770 3.4GHz system with 24 GB of ram and it takes about 3-5 minutes to start Android Studio after clicking on the icon on the Desktop. I am running the latest Windows 8.1 OS.
Has anybody seen something like this? It didn't used to be so bad. I've been using it for about one year, from beta to the current stable release. Are there any fixes I can do to help this out? Maybe uninstalling and installing again?
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I have the same issue too, a Intel i7-2.4G + 8GB RAM, the starting of Android Studio is very slow, taking about 5 minutes. After the slow starting, it works good when editing source code.
The latest version Android Studio 1.3 isn't very good for everyday use.

adam_beers said:
I have an Intel i7-4770 3.4GHz system with 24 GB of ram and it takes about 3-5 minutes to start Android Studio after clicking on the icon on the Desktop. I am running the latest Windows 8.1 OS.
Has anybody seen something like this? It didn't used to be so bad. I've been using it for about one year, from beta to the current stable release. Are there any fixes I can do to help this out? Maybe uninstalling and installing again?
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It seems to have a lot to do with the damn indexing it does.
I resorted to killing the indexing services in windows process explorer and it seemed to speed the project load up some what.
I was having problems with being able to re-load a newly created project. But it was probably because the IDE was bogged down in indexing and just had not finished.
The developers need to add a means of disabling this indexing because it is a pain!
At one stage it was taking me 30 seconds or more to enter a friggin image asset id - I don't know what that was about but it was damned infuriating.
No other programming related software I have ever used has had these problems.

Android on your PC

For anyone that's interested in running Android on their PC see the link below. It can either be natively run or run in a Virtual Enviroment with VMware or Virtualbox.
I'm currently trying it out with VMware and everything seems to working just fine, play store, you tube, internet, even sound is working. The only thing I've come across is the gallery force closes.
http://www.android-x86.org/
For a quick and easy setup to run in VMware or Virtualbox download the image from here: http://www.osboxes.org/android-x86/
See the screenshots below of it running on my Desktiop:

Thanks for the heads-up @ashyx, just had it running in VirtualBox on Kubuntu 14.04. It was a little buggy, kept getting playstore FCs fairly constant, even though I signed into Google.
Apart from that it runs well enough, I'm a little busy dealing with a dead hdd on my raid, so I only had a cursory glance, can't wait to spend more time with it when time allows though, thanks again.

rastus.rob said:
Thanks for the heads-up @ashyx, just had it running in VirtualBox on Kubuntu 14.04. It was a little buggy, kept getting playstore FCs fairly constant, even though I signed into Google.
Apart from that it runs well enough, I'm a little busy dealing with a dead hdd on my raid, so I only had a cursory glance, can't wait to spend more time with it when time allows though, thanks again.
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Strange must be a virtual box issue. Play store was just fine for me. Im using vmware workstation 12 on a Windows 8.1 box.
I even managed to use the 02 TUGO app to send text messages from my pc.
I'm surprised how well it works actually.

Could be 'cause I tried the latest version 4.4-r3 which according to the available downloads, only works on VB. The version previous ver, 4.4-r2 works on both VB and VmW.
Might roll back and see if it works better.

rastus.rob said:
Could be 'cause I tried the latest version 4.4-r3 which according to the available downloads, only works on VB. The version previous ver, 4.4-r2 works on both VB and VmW.
Might roll back and see if it works better.
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Yes I installed 4.4-r2, however in android build settings it states kk 4.4.4.

ashyx said:
Yes I installed 4.4-r2, however in android build settings it states kk 4.4.4.
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Got around to giving 4.4-r2 a run, smooth as silk. Playstore updated all the software without a hitch too, so it not only now works, it works well, Much fun coming up.

Where would one get some help setting this up? I've tried several times to get it to boot from a USB hard drive and it just tosses me into the grub> prompt when it boots.....
Really would like to tinker with it. It will run from install but after that...no joy.
EDIT: Got it going! Switched to 4.4.r2 worked a charm!
Kinda neat seeing it run on a AMD Phenom CPU.

flhthemi said:
Where would one get some help setting this up? I've tried several times to get it to boot from a USB hard drive and it just tosses me into the grub> prompt when it boots.....
Really would like to tinker with it. It will run from install but after that...no joy.
EDIT: Got it going! Switched to 4.4.r2 worked a charm!
Kinda neat seeing it run on a AMD Phenom CPU.
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Its good for developers, better than the Android emulator allegedly.

interesting stuff !

Stuck at "Patience is bitter..."

I have a Win10 i3 laptop with 8gb ram. I enabled virtualization in the bios. I installed the Intel HAXM. It asked me to disable Hyper V Manager so I did that too. When I start the player it just sits at the black screen with the "Patience is bitter" forever. I've let it sit for 30 minutes and nothing happens. I tried running as Adminstartor and same thing. It does show other messages before it gets stuck (not errors, just quotes and things).
How do I troubleshoot this?

me too
pls help

I've also run into this.

It happens when the it fails to mount userdata-qemu.img under avd/Remix_OS.
Please re-decompress the zip file and try again. If it still not work, try to create a new userdata-qemu.img with mke2fs.

codecop said:
It happens when the it fails to mount userdata-qemu.img under avd/Remix_OS.
Please re-decompress the zip file and try again. If it still not work, try to create a new userdata-qemu.img with mke2fs.
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That worked....the first time I ran it.
When I tried to install apps they showed as downloading and never finished.
When I restarted, same thing stuck at the "Patience" screen. Seems like you need a lot of patience to use this product.

Ran mine twice successfully, installed a few apps and games and the third time I ran it, it hangs on "I wish I was as thin as my patience." Ran it over again, the same. Restarted PC, the same. Will probably have to wait for future more stable updates but now, it just doesn't seem to be reliable. I'd most likely have to delete old data again and recreate it possibly over and over again.

We do have a new build out (http://www.jide.com/remixos-player#download) that fixes a lot of the loading issues, as well as Play Store app installation issues. Download this new version, try it and let me know if it solved your issue in this thread. Thanks!

RemixOS_Jason said:
We do have a new build out (http://www.jide.com/remixos-player#download) that fixes a lot of the loading issues, as well as Play Store app installation issues. Download this new version, try it and let me know if it solved your issue in this thread. Thanks!
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It is still stuck on the screen for me.

I've had better luck with the new version.
Some apps took forever to update/install.
The cursor control is annoying. It stays in the player unless you press CTRL-ALT. Wish I could change that.

The problems remains...

Any Help is Appreciated
Ive Also Run Into This Problem, Any Help Would Be Highly Appreciated.
Details
I've Tried Launching at differrent resolutions and differrent ram levels (including at 3GB Ram),However I always get smoothly to the loading screen "Patience is bitter. But its Fruit Is Sweet.Almost There!" But even after 1hr it is still stuck in that same loading screen. I then use the Side Panel Controls To Close The Program.
Specs
Intel Core i7 4720HQ
8GB RAM
Nvidia Geforce GTX 960m 2GB VRAM
Logs
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8MmHwRJOHMjNl9odm5UWXhQNWM?usp=sharing

It looks like your settings database corrupted.
If you don't care about the data saved in the Remix OS Player, you could delete the data image and try again. The user data image locates at remixemu\avd\Remix_OS.avd\userdata-qemu.img
Zeudam said:
Ive Also Run Into This Problem, Any Help Would Be Highly Appreciated.
Details
I've Tried Launching at differrent resolutions and differrent ram levels (including at 3GB Ram),However I always get smoothly to the loading screen "Patience is bitter. But its Fruit Is Sweet.Almost There!" But even after 1hr it is still stuck in that same loading screen. I then use the Side Panel Controls To Close The Program.
Specs
Intel Core i7 4720HQ
8GB RAM
Nvidia Geforce GTX 960m 2GB VRAM
Logs
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/0B8MmHwRJOHMjNl9odm5UWXhQNWM?usp=sharing
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It Worked!
codecop said:
It looks like your settings database corrupted.
If you don't care about the data saved in the Remix OS Player, you could delete the data image and try again. The user data image locates at remixemu\avd\Remix_OS.avd\userdata-qemu.img
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Thanks! This Worked. All My Data Was Wiped as you warned,But it fixed the problem Nevertheless.