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Was a long-time Android user with several various phones, then switched to an iPhone 5 for a short while, came back to Android with the Note 3 for a while (which I loved), but then switched to the iPhone 5s. After using that for a while I'm thinking about coming back to Android for good. I'm contemplating getting a Note 3 since I knew it so well - even had rooting & ROM flashing down with it. Though about the Note 4 but can't root it. Then thought about the Galaxy s5 or Galaxy s5 Active, but not sure if I want to go back to something I've had experience with it try something new.
I know, I'm kind of all over the place here. I just like trying new tech toys, but iOS 8 sucks and I think I'm done with it.
Would like to hear some s5 users' thoughts/ suggestions. Thanks.
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dustrho said:
Was a long-time Android user with several various phones, then switched to an iPhone 5 for a short while, came back to Android with the Note 3 for a while (which I loved), but then switched to the iPhone 5s. After using that for a while I'm thinking about coming back to Android for good. I'm contemplating getting a Note 3 since I knew it so well - even had rooting & ROM flashing down with it. Though about the Note 4 but can't root it. Then thought about the Galaxy s5 or Galaxy s5 Active, but not sure if I want to go back to something I've had experience with it try something new.
I know, I'm kind of all over the place here. I just like trying new tech toys, but iOS 8 sucks and I think I'm done with it.
Would like to hear some s5 users' thoughts/ suggestions. Thanks.
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I love my S5 it's a fantastic device with great battery life a fantastic camera and with root I've debloated the apps I don't use. This of course is just my opinion as I'm sure you'll get others that don't like the S5. Yes bootloader is locked so no AOSP Roms but for me I prefer the stability of T/W.
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Wait and buy a Nexus 6 when it is released.
S5 is a good phone but not worth using an upgrade. My opinion.
Got mine free from Samsung so it's a good free phone. [emoji622]
we own all of the above
My wife and I owned every apple and every s phone between us, her with the iphones me with the s phones.
First off lets talk batteries.
Her Iphone 5S lasts about 8hrs off the charger per day in 1 place without WiFi.
MY S5 is hitting 18hrs on powersave mode streaming Iheart radio in a moving semi truck 514 miles deep off istate 14hrs to 16hrs a day without WiFi UNPLUGGED. All I did else is turn off AT&T apps.
Memory.
I just ordered a 64gig 90mbps sd card.
her new Iphone 6 plus is still only 16gigs.
Freedom of files.
Her Iphones universally BLOCK us from transferring ANY file via USB. You MUST upload your personal information to Itunes then download it all back allowing ALL of it to not only use data but be stored someplace.
S5 has a fire wire USB and transferred over 20 gigs in less than 5 mins (without anyone else seeing my nudy pics.)
ROOTING!
We don't even want to try rooting hers cause she sold her sole to the company store.
I am rooted without triping KNOX and have adaway, root explorer, super user, WiFi tether, Titanium Backup, my choice of any recovery I want to add.
buttons.
Iphones don't have a back key. It's extremely frustrating!
Bluetooth.
All of our S phones have superior compatibility and sound quality over Bluetooth.
OTA
Up until last month Apple never gave her a bad update. Now she has to backup all her files to big brother apple again on iTunes and then reset her phone to fix it to 8.1.
If I get a bad OTA I just flash over a different one from XDA that's better.
These are some of the things I noticed. Hope it helps.
I have just rooted my phone with kingroot and I'm wondering if there is any way to get Xposed to work, even if it is just temporary.
cadenmiller60 said:
I have just rooted my phone with kingroot and I'm wondering if there is any way to get Xposed to work, even if it is just temporary.
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No, unfortunately not. Wish there was something to say other than no.
Requires System R/W permissions which the Turbo doesn't have
Back when the turbo was first root wasn't there a way to achieve temporary write protect off? How could I do that? I don't care if it makes my phone unstable.
cadenmiller60 said:
Back when the turbo was first root wasn't there a way to achieve temporary write protect off? How could I do that? I don't care if it makes my phone unstable.
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If you're looking for an answer you won't get it. I wrote a script for it. But all it would do was write to cache. Nothing system side is ever actually touched. The apps just think it did but it was actually just in cache.
You'll have to wait for something else.
time to return this phone to verizon and get a galaxy instead.
zxzxzxzxzxzxzxzxzx said:
time to return this phone to verizon and get a galaxy instead.
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Or get the Turbo's big brother - nexus 6 - no hoops to jump thru for root/updates.
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Or get the Turbo's big brother - nexus 6 - no hoops to jump thru for root/updates.
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it was a very good suggestion. However after doing some research i quickly found that 1) no external storage and 2) can't get 64gb for verizon. 32gb is NOT acceptable when you can't even add storage!! Also if i got an unlocked 64gb, i read that it will be a PITA is even possible to hook it up on verizon.
So unfortunately it seems I am going back to the s5.
or there is mofo root and system images with xposed baked in...
The battery on the Turbo is so much better than having to look for a charger at 4pm for the S5
Call me crazy, but I just sold my Nexus 6 and got a droid turbo. When you've tried a few ROMS, what your aiming for ultimately is a quick might ROM with added features, and that's what the Turbo does have. Right out of the box. Nexus 6 had wonderful battery life + turbo charger, better than any phone I've ever owned, but the Turbo has the turbo charger and an even BETTER battery! I kinda miss the whole material thing, I can't switch to ART-mode for some reason prolly cuz I rooted it and stuff.. Who knows. I don't care because supposedly the lollipop update will be out and that's good enough for me
Oh and plus the N6 would be unusable whenever I docked it in my car because it uses magnets to hold my phone in place.
Too lazy to figure that one out, too busy playing with my new car.
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Or get the Turbo's big brother - nexus 6 - no hoops to jump thru for root/updates.
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The Nexus 6 has no removable SD card. The Turbo cannot be rooted since the bootloader is locked.
I ended up picking up returning the $600 turbo to verizon, for which I had paid cash (for which they ROBBED ME AT GUNPOINT OF $50 but that's another story, not an actual gun but they stole that from me as a "restocking fee", robbery), and instead picked up a Verizon Galaxy S5 on craigslist, downgraded it to 4.4.2 (an upgrade in my opinion), and rooted it.
I've been using this Galxy S5 for a long time now fully rooted and everything. Happy. I had to jump through a few hoops with the OS downgrade etc to get it rooted though. But now that it's done I am happy. I would love to get a bigger slimmer and better phone with removable SD card and removable battery, that can be rooted, but it seems my S5 is the best I can do. Maybe I will have to wait a few more years. I was looking at the moto x which seems viable, except for the fact there is no removable battery, so I will probably not get it. My S5 still has at least a few more years of life left.
That's fine though, my S5 has been working beautifully for me. What I really want is a new 7.0 tablet with a removable SD card with more memory and more ram and a more vivid screen that is 7.0 inches and not 8.0 or 8.0 inches because that is too big, but I am stuck with the tab 4 that only has 8gb of memory, since no tab exists that's better that is 7.0 inches.
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The Nexus 6 has no removable SD card. The Turbo cannot be rooted since the bootloader is locked.
I ended up picking up returning the $600 turbo to verizon, for which I had paid cash (for which they ROBBED ME AT GUNPOINT OF $50 but that's another story, not an actual gun but they stole that from me as a "restocking fee", robbery), and instead picked up a Verizon Galaxy S5 on craigslist, downgraded it to 4.4.2 (an upgrade in my opinion), and rooted it.
I've been using this Galxy S5 for a long time now fully rooted and everything. Happy. I had to jump through a few hoops with the OS downgrade etc to get it rooted though. But now that it's done I am happy. I would love to get a bigger slimmer and better phone with removable SD card and removable battery, that can be rooted, but it seems my S5 is the best I can do. Maybe I will have to wait a few more years. I was looking at the moto x which seems viable, except for the fact there is no removable battery, so I will probably not get it. My S5 still has at least a few more years of life left.
That's fine though, my S5 has been working beautifully for me. What I really want is a new 7.0 tablet with a removable SD card with more memory and more ram and a more vivid screen that is 7.0 inches and not 8.0 or 8.0 inches because that is too big, but I am stuck with the tab 4 that only has 8gb of memory, since no tab exists that's better that is 7.0 inches.
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Could have saved yourself 50$ restocking fee with a simple search. Costs $20 with sunshine to unlock turbo bootloader.
I know, old topic, but, i somehow managed to install xposed framework with kingo root. But I don't know precizely how did this happen.
Initially, i couldn't install xposed, then I installed CWM with it's recovery from Store via APK, then I was flashing something through this recovery, and in the end, it always ask to prevent from unroot, then I was tapping yes.
When making one or all of these operations, xposed framework installed fine.
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I've order the 64Gb S6 deal from T-Mobile. I've been a lifetime Nexus user from the Nexus One. I've always stuck to pure Android and the phone I currently have is the Nexus 5. I've purchase every generation of Nexus phone except for the Nexus 6 because I didn't like the size. The S6 seems like a winner and I'm already use to a non-removable battery and no SD card. I'm not sure how I'll deal with TW(heard it's been toned down) vs stock Android. That really is my biggest worry and I've been researching a way to uninstall all the bloatware(T-Mobile) without rooting(Though I might do that with PingPong and deal with manual updates). I really wish they would have released a Google Play Edition. I am pretty excited about the class leading hardware, especially the camera. Others who have switched from stock Android to the S6, how do you feel? Loving it? Ready to switch back to a Nexus device? Let me know! Thanks!
Also I'm a avid Google Now, Ok Google user.
My last couple phones were stock android (one plus one, nexus, moto x) and I'll tell you, I don't miss them. The s6 is that good. Battery could be better, but I'm hoping rooting helps (I'm on day one of a custom ROM so we'll see). I also use the "OK google" phrase a lot, so you'll be disappointed to know it doesn't work on the s6 for some reason unless you're using google now or google launcher.
I was in the same boat as you. I went from a 32gb Nexus 5 on AT&T to 64gb Galaxy S6 T-Mo. I'm not a big save my entire music collection on my phone guy, I prefer streaming services. 32gb Nexus was fine for me and battery life sucked. I love the GS6, super fast, I find the battery life more than acceptable, I'm rooted via Ping Pong and actually don't mind Touchwiz this time around. Hated it on my GS2 Skyrocket and GS4. I just rooted and plan to update with Flashfire to keep Knox intact
I was worried about keeping KNOX intact too. I used to install custom ROMs back in the day but as Android has gotten better I haven't done it on recent phones. I just wanted to be able to uninstall bloatware so that's why I'm thinking about rooting. I love the fact that the T-Mobile version has no carrier branding and now I can't wait till this thing gets here. Other than software do you know how different the T-Mo version is from the international version?
N6 64GB to S6 64GB. No remorse whatsoever. Especially with a Tab S also, having things like SideSync is great.
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I was worried about keeping KNOX intact too. I used to install custom ROMs back in the day but as Android has gotten better I haven't done it on recent phones. I just wanted to be able to uninstall bloatware so that's why I'm thinking about rooting. I love the fact that the T-Mobile version has no carrier branding and now I can't wait till this thing gets here. Other than software do you know how different the T-Mo version is from the international version?
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Not any major differences. If anything T-Mo variant has a few extra features like voLTE and WiFi Calling enabled by default. I went with the JUMP option when I switched to T-Mo so I only have to pay off half the device to upgrade. I see no reason to get international version over T-Mo variant. If it were AT&T or International I'd go international all day. My girlfriend has the AT&T variant as she is still on a family plan with big corporate discount. With Flashfire the locked AT&T bootloader isn't crippling but more of an inconvenience
I went from the Nexus 5 to OnePlus One (CM12) and now to the S6. I love the S6. I use the Google Now launcher instead of TW and it doesn't feel all the much different to me. I like the added gestures TW brings (such as palm swipe for a screenshot).
For the bloatware, I simply disable it in the applications menu. When you disable them, the app also disappears from the app drawer.
I was Team Nexus for a while and had a GNex, Nexus 4, 5, and 6. I switched to the S6 because the N6 was too big for my taste and the S6 hardware was just so damn nice (body, camera).
Do I miss stock Android? Hell yes. There's very little (if anything) that TW does better. However, after a few hours of research and tweaking, I've got my S6 looking and feeling as close to a Nexus as possible. I recommend Nova Launcher, Moonshine icon pack, and Hifont to help with that. Also I rooted (before PingPong was available, unfortunately) and used TiBu to freeze all the bloatware I don't need. I'm pretty happy, but I'd be even happier if someone could get this Material Design theme ported to the T-Mobile variant!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/verizon-galaxy-s6/themes-apps/wip-material-design-theme-s6e-t3108155
For what it's worth, my S6 (with no mods other than frozen bloatware) is as snappy as my Nexus 6 running stock 5.1 with Faux kernel.
ping pong root. You basically root the stock rom, knox is NOT tripped. So its good as long as yuou only want to make small changes to your rom (like getting rid of bloat completely and not just disabling it).
Thats what i did and it worked AMAZINGLY well.
frettfreak said:
ping pong root. You basically root the stock rom, knox is NOT tripped. So its good as long as yuou only want to make small changes to your rom (like getting rid of bloat completely and not just disabling it).
Thats what i did and it worked AMAZINGLY well.
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Yeah, I think that's my plan. From all the review of current TW I don't think I'll mind so much. I just want to be rid of all the bloat I won't use. The phone feels amazing and I'm waiting for a glass screen protect now before I start using it. How do you guys feel about the recent new of possibly 2 new nexus phones coming out?
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Yeah, I think that's my plan. From all the review of current TW I don't think I'll mind so much. I just want to be rid of all the bloat I won't use. The phone feels amazing and I'm waiting for a glass screen protect now before I start using it. How do you guys feel about the recent new of possibly 2 new nexus phones coming out?
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Really TW isnt that bad on the s6 now. I can deal with it. and honestly until this phone i have been a "gotta get a glass screen protector before i buy the phone" kinda guy. i have had this one without one and i havent scratch the screen once (have had it in my pocket with screws and nail on accident too a few times). I may end up ordering one, but i HATE the fact that the screen is curved on the sides and the protector doesnt go to the edge. IMO, just looks janky.
the 2 nexus phones is super interesting. I am REALLY hoping that the smaller LG made nexus is real cause i MIGHT be all over that. I had the g3 before this and really liked it. I did what they did with the g4, and as long as the new nexus takes the camera from the g4, that might be my next jump upgrade when it comes out. lol Not interested in a phone bigger than 5.5" anymore. After having the g3 for 6 months, and now going back to the smaller s6, i think this screen size is my sweet spot for sure.
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N6 64GB to S6 64GB. No remorse whatsoever. Especially with a Tab S also, having things like SideSync is great.
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Same experience for moving from a Nexus 6 to a S6.
Your making the right move op. I am not missing the stock experience at all as we already have Root / twrp / (tw for now, 920 T/F) ROM's / kernels / themes here. I've been busy flashing and finding largely positive results; devs are cool / smart peeps here. Much more stable options here imo.
Even just rooting and casually dialing back touchwiz to your liking is easy with titanium.
Moreover, the S6 hardware is largely unmatched to date. Backing up a 4.3gb .zip in twrp took 192/secs; octa 64bit rocks even on little stuff like that. Its not perfect, but its arguably THE superior android flagship right now.
Am I understanding correct that as of yet, the snapdragon version of the note 8 cannot be rooted?
Also, if I am planning on rooting, should I NOT take the current ota update?
ParrSt said:
Am I understanding correct that as of yet, the snapdragon version of the note 8 cannot be rooted?
Also, if I am planning on rooting, should I NOT take the current ota update?
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There may eventually be an engineer-kernel related root maybe 6 months down the road, but it will be super limited and slow.
Also, OTA won't affect root, since an engineer kernel can be flashed over anything (since its for developers to test hardware).
I have the Snapdragon variant as well here in Canada, and I'm selling the phone for full value and will be ordering the F model on Swiftronics when its available (as of now only the FD is up). I'm currently selling it on Kijiji, but if I don't sell it in 5 days, I'm going to drive to Mississuaga to refund it at the Samsung store, and then I'll pop by the Swiftronic retail store which is also conveniently in Mississuaga as well.
Lastly, as you are most likely aware, rooting any Samsung phone will void full warranty 99% of the time, and is NOT covered by any imported variant (anything outside your country regardless of the method of purchase). This includes Swiftronics retail outlet (just got off the phone with them).
So if you really want to keep your warranty, I would suggest waiting for the Snapdragon root, which will most likely keep the warranty and risk having to wait up to a year and have super limited abilities, or sell the phone, get the F variant and lose warranty completely and obtain 100% root access with full kernel/ROM support. I'm personally choosing this option, as I thought I could live without root, but the small things add up and make it impossible for me to live without lol.
Not so worried about warranty but will this phone never get a full and proper root like every other android phone I've owned?
ParrSt said:
Not so worried about warranty but will this phone never get a full and proper root like every other android phone I've owned?
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You may want to track the history of rooting previous Samsung phones. The short answer is that an unlocked bootloader has been very difficult to achieve on Snapdragon SOCs. Without that, root is a hit or miss.
What are you trying to do that your stock phone can't?
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You may want to track the history of rooting previous Samsung phones. The short answer is that an unlocked bootloader has been very difficult to achieve on Snapdragon SOCs. Without that, root is a hit or miss.
What are you trying to do that your stock phone can't?
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F2FS makes the phone snappy AF
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ParrSt said:
Not so worried about warranty but will this phone never get a full and proper root like every other android phone I've owned?
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Take a look at this thread for S8+, root took almost 5 1/2 months and it still has a locked bootloader.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...root-g955u-g955u1-snapdragon-sampwnd-t3658911
I didn't get a chance to mess root on the s8 but using the ENG kernel on the s7 edge to get root was horrible. wasn't really worth the trade off IMO. it slowed down the phone, lagged like crazy. even after messing with kernel settings to make it stable it still was slower then stock. I know how important root is to some people but anymore stock with some ADB mods is OK with me. I wish I had root to debloat my phone some on the stock TMO firmware(unlocked firmware loses to many features) but it is what it is for now.
douger1957 said:
You may want to track the history of rooting previous Samsung phones. The short answer is that an unlocked bootloader has been very difficult to achieve on Snapdragon SOCs. Without that, root is a hit or miss.
What are you trying to do that your stock phone can't?
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I always liked finding a custom Rom that has cool icons and battery mods and choosing setting options that my room doesn't have. I just like full customization.
My friends worship me better when i have root, since we all have the same phone, and they see what i can do after root, i charge $50 for root and $75 to install rom, $150 w/root/rom/complete debloatation!
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Every phone that I have owned that had a locked bootloader has gotten root. Every one of them. Now you might not be able to flash kernels. But I never do that anyway. So don't worry about it the Snapdragon will get root. Remember the phone just came out on the 15th. I guarantee someone is working on root as we speak.
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I always liked finding a custom Rom that has cool icons and battery mods and choosing setting options that my room doesn't have. I just like full customization.
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I did too in the past but not on the S8+ or the Note 8. There is now Substratum for Samsung without root and SytemUI Tuner from the Play Store that you only need several adb commands to give it permissions where you can really make it yours. Also a thread on the S8+ site for layers and most of those work on the Note 8 too.
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I did too in the past but not on the S8+ or the Note 8. There is now Substratum for Samsung without root and SytemUI Tuner from the Play Store that you only need several adb commands to give it permissions where you can really make it yours. Also a thread on the S8+ site for layers and most of those work on the Note 8 too.
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Watch “Reason for root” on Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/234526431
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ggrant3876 said:
I did too in the past but not on the S8+ or the Note 8. There is now Substratum for Samsung without root and SytemUI Tuner from the Play Store that you only need several adb commands to give it permissions where you can really make it yours. Also a thread on the S8+ site for layers and most of those work on the Note 8 too.
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Do you use Swift for Samsung on the note 8? If so, what layers do you use? The ones for the S8/S8+?
jason504 said:
Every phone that I have owned that had a locked bootloader has gotten root. Every one of them. Now you might not be able to flash kernels. But I never do that anyway. So don't worry about it the Snapdragon will get root. Remember the phone just came out on the 15th. I guarantee someone is working on root as we speak.
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It will be hacked root like the s8, hopefully not limited to 80% battery charge
sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
force70 said:
It will be hacked root like the s8, hopefully not limited to 80% battery charge
sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
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What do you mean 80 battery charge?
jason504 said:
What do you mean 80 battery charge?
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If you root you can only charge to 80%.
Unless it was already fixed, i have an exynos so dont read alot on the snapdragon so dont know.
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If you root you can only charge to 80%.
Unless it was already fixed, i have an exynos so dont read alot on the snapdragon so dont know.
sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
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Well that sucks I will not root if that's the case.
GermanGuy said:
Do you use Swift for Samsung on the note 8? If so, what layers do you use? The ones for the S8/S8+?
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Right now I'm using Swift Dark for the S8, and I'm using the nav bar from here, Parapaer. Using the carrier hider from here. Got rid of the battery charging icon from here, with several adb commands for permissions. Haven't had a single issue but if you do just boot into safe mode and uninstall the offending layer.
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What are you trying to do that your stock phone can't?
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Honestly I was looking at this question and it made me think because I've also rooted every single phone I've had for the past seven years this is the first Samsung device I bought I usually stuck to Motorola and the Nexus lineup and all of those phones I rooted them to do everything the Galaxy Note 8 does by default already customisation and performance
Up until yesterday the only real reason I had to root my Note 8 was to disable Bixby but Samsung did the right thing and gave me that already
Now I honestly don't even care about rooting
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If you root you can only charge to 80%.
Unless it was already fixed, i have an exynos so dont read alot on the snapdragon so dont know.
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It's been fixed, hill billy method.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73619880&postcount=2399
I haven't rooted in years. The last phone I rooted was a Motorola Droid Bionic. My next phone was the Droid Turbo 2, and my rooting days were over. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 5 under Verizon. I would love to root this so that I may explore and use custom roms I'm interested in (especially since I'm unsatisfied with the current stock), but I might want to trade this one day for something more if given the opportunity.
If I root, are there any ways to easily return to stock and make Verizon fully unaware I ever did?
I'd prefer to multi-boot if that's still a thing, and then be able to delete extra roms and leave only the stock if possible. However, this is not totally needed. And me moving forward in general will be based on just how much risk there is irrecoverably borking any function of the device, regardless if I try returning to stock, and besides the standard "any attempt is a chance to brick".