I haven't rooted in years. The last phone I rooted was a Motorola Droid Bionic. My next phone was the Droid Turbo 2, and my rooting days were over. I have a Samsung Galaxy Note 5 under Verizon. I would love to root this so that I may explore and use custom roms I'm interested in (especially since I'm unsatisfied with the current stock), but I might want to trade this one day for something more if given the opportunity.
If I root, are there any ways to easily return to stock and make Verizon fully unaware I ever did?
I'd prefer to multi-boot if that's still a thing, and then be able to delete extra roms and leave only the stock if possible. However, this is not totally needed. And me moving forward in general will be based on just how much risk there is irrecoverably borking any function of the device, regardless if I try returning to stock, and besides the standard "any attempt is a chance to brick".
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Now with recovery and root, some roms will come to moto maxx?
Or some port of nexus 6.
One can hope, realistically on the Maxx side we could use sales across a wider audience to generate enough users to reach critical mass. The turbo seems to be selling well and probably would attract some development interest if the boot loader were unlocked and I would think there might be spillover to the Maxx from that. I recall you are already an owner but people who are on the fence due to the possible lack of rom development certainly should take pause. For myself I like the stock Moto software or at least parts of it and with root and exposed I can get all my must haves anyways so I bought in figuring I would be happy with the stock software and a little massaging.
Still its impressive how far things can go even without a developer base, I've had a few phones that never had much developer interest but was still wowed by some of the things users come up with at this site to make them better.
I've had a rooted S4 since it came out last May, so over a year and a half, which I love, besides a few problems, and I was looking at the Moto X. I have read a bunch and I see that there is no root for the Verizon version. Has anyone made the switch from a rooted device that they loved to the unrooted Moto X? Curious if it is worth it or not as there are some Xposed modules I use quite a bit.
I came from the S3 on Verizon, which I had unlocked and rooted the whole time I owned it. Prior to that I had the OG EVO on Sprint, which was unlocked and rooted as well. I had a blast on the EVO and gained a lot of value from unlock/root then plus it was just exciting and enjoyable tinkering with it. The S3 experience was good in that I had AOSP ROMs, but I basically kept ending back on CM. While CM provided the latest version of Android, I was so tired of the problems that never seemed to go away-- SMS/MMS, bluetooth, GPS and more. It was to the point I would be reluctant to flash any update knowing a new problem would surface. I eventually just moved to a TouchWiz ROM and left it to avoid the problems. TWRP was buggy too, so I had to bounce around recoveries as well. That obviously is a part of using a rooted phone and messing with it, but I guess I got a little burned out with that. If you have free time and enjoy that whole process of testing things and tinkering, you would probably miss root/Xposed. For me, I wanted stock Android that worked. I think Moto's customizations are very smart and useful like a custom ROM. I miss cf.Lumen, which required root, but otherwise I like this phone and like having the latest Android. The Nexus 6 was too big for me. If you can handle that size (and price until there is a on-contract option), that could be an option. I also really enjoyed building a custom Moto with a leather back. You could write down everything you use root/Xposed for and see what alternatives exist in an unrooted world and go from there. If there are no deal breakers, I think it is a great phone with great software.
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I came from the S3 on Verizon, which I had unlocked and rooted the whole time I owned it. Prior to that I had the OG EVO on Sprint, which was unlocked and rooted as well. I had a blast on the EVO and gained a lot of value from unlock/root then plus it was just exciting and enjoyable tinkering with it. The S3 experience was good in that I had AOSP ROMs, but I basically kept ending back on CM. While CM provided the latest version of Android, I was so tired of the problems that never seemed to go away-- SMS/MMS, bluetooth, GPS and more. It was to the point I would be reluctant to flash any update knowing a new problem would surface. I eventually just moved to a TouchWiz ROM and left it to avoid the problems. TWRP was buggy too, so I had to bounce around recoveries as well. That obviously is a part of using a rooted phone and messing with it, but I guess I got a little burned out with that. If you have free time and enjoy that whole process of testing things and tinkering, you would probably miss root/Xposed. For me, I wanted stock Android that worked. I think Moto's customizations are very smart and useful like a custom ROM. I miss cf.Lumen, which required root, but otherwise I like this phone and like having the latest Android. The Nexus 6 was too big for me. If you can handle that size (and price until there is a on-contract option), that could be an option. I also really enjoyed building a custom Moto with a leather back. You could write down everything you use root/Xposed for and see what alternatives exist in an unrooted world and go from there. If there are no deal breakers, I think it is a great phone with great software.
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I appreciate you taking your time to write that up. I am almost 100% on buying it, but I just noticed the Droid Turbo. My real main reasons for not getting it already is the Non removable small battery and the camera. I have heard both sides of the fences with some saying they are fine, and some saying they are horrible. The Droid Turbo seems to have better camera and battery, but then again, I have heard both sides of the fences again, with people saying it isn't that much better, if even better at all. But the Moto X is so sexy compared to the Droid Turbo. The Non removable battery just really annoys me though. I go to a lot of conventions, and I like with the G4 having a spare battery to switch and instantly be at 100%.
I just can't wait until they come out with the PERFECT phone.......if that ever happens.....
Every time I'm at phone decision time I feel the same way. This one is too big. This one has an older chip... different resolution... AMOLED.... LCD... SD card on and on. I passed on the Turbo because I didn't like the back and old navigation bar icons. Spec-wise it is solid. This Moto X is my first non-removable battery and non-SD card phone. I got past the battery thing because I'm a working stiff. Most weeks I'm at the office then home. On weekends I use the turbo charger at home to give me the boost for the evening and I always have a couple of external battery packs for insurance and convenience. It is surprising how nice an external battery pack is even if you are just outside or somewhere away from a charger. Don't have to power down and get to keep on going. When I travel for work, I've noticed there are built in breaks where I can let my phone charge on a pack, e.g. airport security, checking out of hotels, catching rides, meeting suppliers at places, so I haven't found the battery to be an issue. We'll see how I feel about the SD card thing a year from now or so. I got the 32GB for $50 in hopes of at least making it manageable. The Moto X is a good looking phone though that is for sure.
I had the original Moto X (with unlocked bootloader), loved it. Then I got a new job that have me the S4 (which I rooted). Didn't really like it but still have it. Two weeks ago I had the opportunity to upgrade to the 2nd Gen Moto X, so now I'm carrying with me the S4 and new X (just to give some reference).
I liked the size of the old X, and wish I could have retained that. But I didn't want to get left behind by not upgrading. I do miss root, mainly for a few xposed modules like gravitybox, Moto tether, and exchange bypass. But since I have my work phone I can tether in a pinch (not frequently needed at all).
There are sacrifices to all changes. For me, owning the non-rootable 2nd Gen X was worth the tradeoffs. I think you would be happy with the transition if you don't mind sacrificing root (I'm hopeful a method will be released!). I like the feel of it more than the S4 (physical handling, plus the coolness factor of designing it), the speed (S4 just feels more bulky and stutters quite a bit more), and the Moto features. I've found the radios (esp wifi) better on the X. I have the 32GB and haven't run into a problem yet. Though I can't fairly compare batteries since I use the two for very different purposes throughout my day.
Good luck!
Thanks to both of you. I ordered a 32gb last night as well as the Turbo Charger. Can't wait! Hope it comes in fast.
About 4-5 days (including shipping)
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About 4-5 days (including shipping)
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Did it say the box where its made/shipped from? I remember them making the first one in Texas.
So I am recently coming from a sprint galaxsy s4 to a lg g4 ( tried getting a s5, no store had one). Anyways, my s4 was running cyanogenmod and had xposed on it all all that good stuff.
Now that I have a new phone, I was looking to hack it, but it seems the lg g4 sprint is modable? or extremely hard to root? Be mindful, im not sure what zbc means or any of the other lg terminology.
Anyways is their a way I can run cm on my lg? and if I were to brick it would it be hard to get out of it?
I'm super super sorry for your loss. No bootloader unlock so if you're on MM, you can't even have root let alone CM.
maybe try the mallowmushroom rom. It's not rooted, but it lets you do things like unlock the wifi tether and other fixes. I'm still deciding whether to install it on my phone, haven't built up the effort yet but I will eventually.
Ive actually come to like the stock rom on lg. Its nothing like a samsung s4, with all the bloatware and ****. Although, I really do miss root
Yeah, the G4 is an awful phone if you like to mod. I regret having made the decision to buy it.
I have a t-mobile note 4. I am thinking about rooting my phone but wanted to know the pros and cons. I know a while back it was worth it workout a question. However, now that we are in 2016 is it really worth it? I know about Knox but I never use it so it won't be an issue losing it.
I've had my Note4 for 2 years unrooted. I only disabled the T-Mobile bloat.
If I had it to do all over again, I'd get an international Note4. With the latest 6.0.1, I have no reason to root my phone.
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I have a t-mobile note 4. I am thinking about rooting my phone but wanted to know the pros and cons. I know a while back it was worth it workout a question. However, now that we are in 2016 is it really worth it? I know about Knox but I never use it so it won't be an issue losing it.
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If you don't use Knox now you will likely never use it.
I say use it as long as you can stock and when you get bored or the phone starts to slow down, either root and flash a new rom or perform a complete wipe/ factory reset and start back at day 1. The great thing is you can always look forward to having the option.
I bought used about 6 months after it came out. I rooted it before booting the first time as I've rooted every device since my droid x (roughly 10 devices). AdAway, titanium backup are necessary for me, especially AdAway. Xposed is nice for customizing as well. The 910T was made for rooting and playing around with. Easy to use and hard to screw up.
Yes. Be the administrator of the device you own. Free your device totally from the control of of companies who have no right to your information or battery usage.
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Hey XDA! I "need" a little guidance here in navigating the best way to go about getting what I'd like out of my Note 8...
First, a little background.
I bought a Sprint Note 9 (you may point and laugh now), but am returning it because Sprint can suck it, and so can their version of the Note 9. I have a moderate amount of experience bastardizing my mobile devices, but the last few batches of Samsung products have been especially difficult it seems. I even successfully rooted, twrpd, and custom romd my Moto Z2 Force on Sprint, so I'm not a complete noob...
So here's what I have.
Model: SMN950U1 (ZKAX)
Carrier: Unlocked (will be activating to Verizon)
Android Version: 7.1.1
Here's what I'd like, in order of importance:
Root (any, superSU or magisk , no real preference)
TWRP (preferably official, willing to do unofficial if necessary)
Xposed Framework
Custom ROM (meh, willing to live without).
So here's where the questions come in , but let me preface by saying I did some research. I understand the only root for pie is a safe strap currently. That being said, I don't necessarily need pie. I'm OK with staying on android 7 or 8.
What "path" should I take to get my root and twrp? (I can navigate the other two items listed above once the first two are taken care of... I think...)
Should I update to Oreo? Stay on nougat?
Should I activate on Verizon before modding, or after?
Basically I'm asking for a roadmap of steps on this particular device because... Well it's a pita.
Any pointers appreciated. Thank you in advance!
I don't think anyone replied because your device is not rootable. Maybe you should look into buying an international Note 8 and be sure it will work on Verizon.
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I don't think anyone replied because your device is not rootable. Maybe you should look into buying an international Note 8 and be sure it will work on Verizon.
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By international, do you mean specifically an Exynos chip based note?
Honestly, I've been highly dissatisfied with Samsung's actions ever since the Note 4. I'm seriously considering just buying another Moto Z2 Force.