Root on snapdragon - Samsung Galaxy Note 8 Questions and Answers

Am I understanding correct that as of yet, the snapdragon version of the note 8 cannot be rooted?
Also, if I am planning on rooting, should I NOT take the current ota update?

ParrSt said:
Am I understanding correct that as of yet, the snapdragon version of the note 8 cannot be rooted?
Also, if I am planning on rooting, should I NOT take the current ota update?
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There may eventually be an engineer-kernel related root maybe 6 months down the road, but it will be super limited and slow.
Also, OTA won't affect root, since an engineer kernel can be flashed over anything (since its for developers to test hardware).
I have the Snapdragon variant as well here in Canada, and I'm selling the phone for full value and will be ordering the F model on Swiftronics when its available (as of now only the FD is up). I'm currently selling it on Kijiji, but if I don't sell it in 5 days, I'm going to drive to Mississuaga to refund it at the Samsung store, and then I'll pop by the Swiftronic retail store which is also conveniently in Mississuaga as well.
Lastly, as you are most likely aware, rooting any Samsung phone will void full warranty 99% of the time, and is NOT covered by any imported variant (anything outside your country regardless of the method of purchase). This includes Swiftronics retail outlet (just got off the phone with them).
So if you really want to keep your warranty, I would suggest waiting for the Snapdragon root, which will most likely keep the warranty and risk having to wait up to a year and have super limited abilities, or sell the phone, get the F variant and lose warranty completely and obtain 100% root access with full kernel/ROM support. I'm personally choosing this option, as I thought I could live without root, but the small things add up and make it impossible for me to live without lol.

Not so worried about warranty but will this phone never get a full and proper root like every other android phone I've owned?

ParrSt said:
Not so worried about warranty but will this phone never get a full and proper root like every other android phone I've owned?
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You may want to track the history of rooting previous Samsung phones. The short answer is that an unlocked bootloader has been very difficult to achieve on Snapdragon SOCs. Without that, root is a hit or miss.
What are you trying to do that your stock phone can't?

douger1957 said:
You may want to track the history of rooting previous Samsung phones. The short answer is that an unlocked bootloader has been very difficult to achieve on Snapdragon SOCs. Without that, root is a hit or miss.
What are you trying to do that your stock phone can't?
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F2FS makes the phone snappy AF
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ParrSt said:
Not so worried about warranty but will this phone never get a full and proper root like every other android phone I've owned?
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Take a look at this thread for S8+, root took almost 5 1/2 months and it still has a locked bootloader.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...root-g955u-g955u1-snapdragon-sampwnd-t3658911

I didn't get a chance to mess root on the s8 but using the ENG kernel on the s7 edge to get root was horrible. wasn't really worth the trade off IMO. it slowed down the phone, lagged like crazy. even after messing with kernel settings to make it stable it still was slower then stock. I know how important root is to some people but anymore stock with some ADB mods is OK with me. I wish I had root to debloat my phone some on the stock TMO firmware(unlocked firmware loses to many features) but it is what it is for now.

douger1957 said:
You may want to track the history of rooting previous Samsung phones. The short answer is that an unlocked bootloader has been very difficult to achieve on Snapdragon SOCs. Without that, root is a hit or miss.
What are you trying to do that your stock phone can't?
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I always liked finding a custom Rom that has cool icons and battery mods and choosing setting options that my room doesn't have. I just like full customization.

My friends worship me better when i have root, since we all have the same phone, and they see what i can do after root, i charge $50 for root and $75 to install rom, $150 w/root/rom/complete debloatation!
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Every phone that I have owned that had a locked bootloader has gotten root. Every one of them. Now you might not be able to flash kernels. But I never do that anyway. So don't worry about it the Snapdragon will get root. Remember the phone just came out on the 15th. I guarantee someone is working on root as we speak.

ParrSt said:
I always liked finding a custom Rom that has cool icons and battery mods and choosing setting options that my room doesn't have. I just like full customization.
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I did too in the past but not on the S8+ or the Note 8. There is now Substratum for Samsung without root and SytemUI Tuner from the Play Store that you only need several adb commands to give it permissions where you can really make it yours. Also a thread on the S8+ site for layers and most of those work on the Note 8 too.

ggrant3876 said:
I did too in the past but not on the S8+ or the Note 8. There is now Substratum for Samsung without root and SytemUI Tuner from the Play Store that you only need several adb commands to give it permissions where you can really make it yours. Also a thread on the S8+ site for layers and most of those work on the Note 8 too.
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Watch “Reason for root” on Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/234526431
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ggrant3876 said:
I did too in the past but not on the S8+ or the Note 8. There is now Substratum for Samsung without root and SytemUI Tuner from the Play Store that you only need several adb commands to give it permissions where you can really make it yours. Also a thread on the S8+ site for layers and most of those work on the Note 8 too.
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Do you use Swift for Samsung on the note 8? If so, what layers do you use? The ones for the S8/S8+?

jason504 said:
Every phone that I have owned that had a locked bootloader has gotten root. Every one of them. Now you might not be able to flash kernels. But I never do that anyway. So don't worry about it the Snapdragon will get root. Remember the phone just came out on the 15th. I guarantee someone is working on root as we speak.
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It will be hacked root like the s8, hopefully not limited to 80% battery charge
sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6

force70 said:
It will be hacked root like the s8, hopefully not limited to 80% battery charge
sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
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What do you mean 80 battery charge?

jason504 said:
What do you mean 80 battery charge?
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If you root you can only charge to 80%.
Unless it was already fixed, i have an exynos so dont read alot on the snapdragon so dont know.
sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6

force70 said:
If you root you can only charge to 80%.
Unless it was already fixed, i have an exynos so dont read alot on the snapdragon so dont know.
sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
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Well that sucks I will not root if that's the case.

GermanGuy said:
Do you use Swift for Samsung on the note 8? If so, what layers do you use? The ones for the S8/S8+?
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Right now I'm using Swift Dark for the S8, and I'm using the nav bar from here, Parapaer. Using the carrier hider from here. Got rid of the battery charging icon from here, with several adb commands for permissions. Haven't had a single issue but if you do just boot into safe mode and uninstall the offending layer.

douger1957 said:
What are you trying to do that your stock phone can't?
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Honestly I was looking at this question and it made me think because I've also rooted every single phone I've had for the past seven years this is the first Samsung device I bought I usually stuck to Motorola and the Nexus lineup and all of those phones I rooted them to do everything the Galaxy Note 8 does by default already customisation and performance
Up until yesterday the only real reason I had to root my Note 8 was to disable Bixby but Samsung did the right thing and gave me that already
Now I honestly don't even care about rooting

force70 said:
If you root you can only charge to 80%.
Unless it was already fixed, i have an exynos so dont read alot on the snapdragon so dont know.
sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
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It's been fixed, hill billy method.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73619880&postcount=2399

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Still worth buying?

Hey guys, do you think buying a used note 3 is still a good by at $350?
How much do you think it will sell for in November after Note 4 hits the scene?
I think it's a decent deal. Not the best deal but not the worst deal.
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Thanks. I just the pulled the trigger on a "mint" condition note 3 on swappa for $339 to hold me over until I get a Note 4 in November. Tired of my Nexus 5 poor battery life.
Enjoy. Battery on the note is a beast. ?
yogi217 said:
Thanks. I just the pulled the trigger on a "mint" condition note 3 on swappa for $339 to hold me over until I get a Note 4 in November. Tired of my Nexus 5 poor battery life.
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I got my note 3 back in January and I'm still very happy with it. This is the best battery life I've ever experienced on any device I've ever owned, But I also want to see what the future holds for the note line. If it's extremely nice I will get it. If not I will just keep my note 3 till I finally get tired of it.
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I finally got the device. The seller claims that they too purchased it back in January. There isn't a mark on the device. It is definitely in mint condition.
It's on, rooted, debloated and disabled carrier iq, and customized! Easier than I expected to use one handed (but I have large hands) and fits in my pocket better than anticipated as well. Not as smooth as my Nexus 5 or even 4 (even turning most features off and using Nova), but worth the extra screen and battery size.
Definitely going for a Note 4 in a few months, but looking forward to using this bad boy for the time being! I'm not in any rush with this device in hand. The 3 is a great device. My only regret is not having moved to the Note line of phones earlier.
yogi217 said:
It's on, rooted, debloated and disabled carrier iq, and customized! Easier than I expected to use one handed (but I have large hands) and fits in my pocket better than anticipated as well. Not as smooth as my Nexus 5 or even 4 (even turning most features off and using Nova), but worth the extra screen and battery size. .
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That's weird. I have a similar setup on my Note and it is the butteriest phone I've ever owned. I need to update my sig but I'm running stock rooted kitkat, I used Titanium Backup to debloat the crap out of it, and I got rid of Carrier IQ. There isn't a hint of lag.
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That's weird. I have a similar setup on my Note and it is the butteriest phone I've ever owned. I need to update my sig but I'm running stock rooted kitkat, I used Titanium Backup to debloat the crap out of it, and I got rid of Carrier IQ. There isn't a hint of lag.
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I did the same thing, but just to my eye, it's not as smooth as a nexus 5. It's not a huge difference (it's barely a difference at all), and certainly not one that I would go back to a nexus for. It's just something I noticed with both devices in my hand at the same time.
If you enjoy rooting and flashing, I hope it's not the AT&T Note 3.
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Kamau54 said:
If you enjoy rooting and flashing, I hope it's not the AT&T Note 3.
Sent from where the wind begins....
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I rooted this note 3, but I've never flashed it because I was spending way too much time messing with roms on previous nexus.
What's the issue with att? I haven't looked into it. Difficult bootloader?
yogi217 said:
I rooted this note 3, but I've never flashed it because I was spending way too much time messing with roms on previous nexus.
What's the issue with att? I haven't looked into it. Difficult bootloader?
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The bootloader is locked and probably will never be unlocked.
440bro said:
The bootloader is locked and probably will never be unlocked.
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Yeah, that sucks. I'm not going to run a custom rom, so no biggie for me for now...
440bro said:
The bootloader is locked and probably will never be unlocked.
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Except, with Safestrap it's actually possible to add custom ROMS. Took me around 20 minutes to get it set up and I;m no power user!

Should I root my note 4

I have a t-mobile note 4. I am thinking about rooting my phone but wanted to know the pros and cons. I know a while back it was worth it workout a question. However, now that we are in 2016 is it really worth it? I know about Knox but I never use it so it won't be an issue losing it.
I've had my Note4 for 2 years unrooted. I only disabled the T-Mobile bloat.
If I had it to do all over again, I'd get an international Note4. With the latest 6.0.1, I have no reason to root my phone.
JrWiggs said:
I have a t-mobile note 4. I am thinking about rooting my phone but wanted to know the pros and cons. I know a while back it was worth it workout a question. However, now that we are in 2016 is it really worth it? I know about Knox but I never use it so it won't be an issue losing it.
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If you don't use Knox now you will likely never use it.
I say use it as long as you can stock and when you get bored or the phone starts to slow down, either root and flash a new rom or perform a complete wipe/ factory reset and start back at day 1. The great thing is you can always look forward to having the option.
I bought used about 6 months after it came out. I rooted it before booting the first time as I've rooted every device since my droid x (roughly 10 devices). AdAway, titanium backup are necessary for me, especially AdAway. Xposed is nice for customizing as well. The 910T was made for rooting and playing around with. Easy to use and hard to screw up.
Yes. Be the administrator of the device you own. Free your device totally from the control of of companies who have no right to your information or battery usage.
XDA lives matter!

What other devices/oem are you considering if Samsung locked all bootloaders?

What other devices are you considering if Samsung continues upping security and locking down their phones. (Lets says all Samsung devices snapdragon and exynos had locked bootloaders)
Working in IT in the Mobile realm I can definitely see the impact that Samsung Knox and Samsung’s focus on security is having. Samsung is pushing it very hard and this lets them maintain dominance on enterprise as far as the android side is concerned. However, to our (xda community) detriment these security features and components are lost when we root. Notwithstanding I was fine with loosing Samsung pay and Knox. It looks like with newer Samsung devices and updates Samsung is really ramping up. I have always been a fan of the Note series and switched to an S7 edge to wait for the Note 7. After the Note 7’s demise I decided to switch to the s8 Plus until the Note 8 was coming out. With recent news on new bootloaders preventing downgrades and bricking devices, Note 8’s having encrypted CSC’s disallowing modification and I’m assuming when Oreo comes out for these devices more security features and processes will leave rooters out in the cold. I was surprised to see the new “feature” Samsung added with the OEM unlock toggle being removed on users devices and them being in “Jail” for several days. I can only assume the s9 and maybe with Oreo updates on older Samsung devices they will also be getting this “Enhancement”. So, it seems to me the days of rooting and enhancing your device are limited at best. Rebooting your phone and being locked out doesn’t seem very appealing to me. Anyway, not to ramble I’m curious what other manufacturers are contenders for some of Samsung’s modding community users. There are very limited manufacturers who are open to their devices being modified. I’ve stuck with Samsung so long because of their cameras and superb hardware and features but now I’m left wondering can I run a stock Samsung device and all the crap T-Mobile and other carriers load on it. I was reading and some users flashing unlocked firmware on their carrier devices were getting bricked with the new bootloader so no help there. What devices would you consider if you consider if in the future if say CDMA was no longer needed and Samsung ran exynos for all their products and they locked the bootloaders. Would you still use a Samsung unrooted or what manufacture would you jump to?
I’m actually holding off from a Note 8 until I see what the Oreo update brings and what else changes and is locked down. The encrypted CSC's also disallow for enabling some core features T-Mobile disables on their version.
When OnePlus finally starts having the premium features as other flagships do. Goodbye Samsung!
Im probably gunna go essential 2 or pixel 3 xl(if its made by htc or inhouse google)
me2151 said:
Im probably gunna go essential 2 or pixel 3 xl(if its made by htc or inhouse google)
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Surprised your not scared of pixel. That screen controversy was pretty bad. LG makes there screens. I am familiar with LG quality issues. My last two LGs had bad burn in and other issues with screen.
Essential I know nothing about. But phone is looking promising from the lil I read.
Nick216ohio said:
Surprised your not scared of pixel. That screen controversy was pretty bad. LG makes there screens. I am familiar with LG quality issues. My last two LGs had bad burn in and other issues with screen.
Essential I know nothing about. But phone is looking promising from the lil I read.
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I AM scared of LG garbage. If any part of it is LG on the p3XL im not getting it. Some of my dev friends got the essential and they said its their absolute favorite phone so far.
Would most likely stay with Samsung because rooting apart from theming doesn't add much to the Phone imho. It's good and all, some features yeah they suck but I can glance over them because the whole package is good.
If they'd however harden the ability to sideload apps, I'd definitely jump ship to an iPhone.
Inb4 the Apple haters:
OP asked for opinions, don't cry about an iPhone being mentioned.
me2151 said:
I AM scared of LG garbage. If any part of it is LG on the p3XL im not getting it. Some of my dev friends got the essential and they said its their absolute favorite phone so far.
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Yeah stay away from anything LG. Only phone that LG actually makes good is V30. They do make excellent audio in devices. I doubt google uses LG screens in next pixel. Hopefully they hit up Samsung. Now that company knows how to make a good screen.
Now you seem to know more about essential phone. Is it better then OnePlus? In terms of features and Rom/root community size?
Nick216ohio said:
When OnePlus finally starts having the premium features as other flagships do. Goodbye Samsung!
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Yeah, looking at videos on the 5t now. If I had to choose right now it would probably be oneplus.
me2151 said:
Im probably gunna go essential 2 or pixel 3 xl(if its made by htc or inhouse google)
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Hmm I hadn't thought about essential. Need a larger device from them. Played with a Pixel 2 xl at work and its ok. Screen was the worst part.
me2151 said:
I AM scared of LG garbage. If any part of it is LG on the p3XL im not getting it. Some of my dev friends got the essential and they said its their absolute favorite phone so far.
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Thanks for the input.
SaadatM said:
Would most likely stay with Samsung because rooting apart from theming doesn't add much to the Phone imho. It's good and all, some features yeah they suck but I can glance over them because the whole package is good.
If they'd however harden the ability to sideload apps, I'd definitely jump ship to an iPhone.
Inb4 the Apple haters:
OP asked for opinions, don't cry about an iPhone being mentioned.
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I really like root for blocking ads and viper4android. When I play with non root phones I can't belive all the advertisements.
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naruto.ninjakid said:
Yeah, looking at videos on the 5t now. If I had to choose right now it would probably be oneplus. Hmm I hadn't thought about essential. Need a larger device from them. Played with a Pixel 2 xl at work and its ok. Screen was the worst part. Thanks for the input. I really like root for blocking ads and viper4android. When I play with non root phones I can't belive all the advertisements.
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OnePlus amount of Roms is breathtaking. There's good non root apps for blocking ads.
Probable Solution
naruto.ninjakid said:
Yeah, looking at videos on the 5t now. If I had to choose right now it would probably be oneplus. Hmm I hadn't thought about essential. Need a larger device from them. Played with a Pixel 2 xl at work and its ok. Screen was the worst part. Thanks for the input. I really like root for blocking ads and viper4android. When I play with non root phones I can't belive all the advertisements.
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Understandable, I loved V4A too!
For the adblocking:
You could use Ad-Block/ AdHell to block the ads, completely rootless.
Or what I'd personally recommend (And keep in mind, I'm no rich guy) is DisconnectPro. It is costly at 25€ once, but it sure as hell blocks all advertisements or remotely any ad activity.
Works well inside YouTube too, so it's basically ad-free.
Might give that a go, you can find it inside Samsug's store!
Nick216ohio said:
OnePlus amount of Roms is breathtaking. There's good non root apps for blocking ads.
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I've tried the VPN adblocks but none of them work as well as adaway. Good suggestions though.
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SaadatM said:
Understandable, I loved V4A too!
For the adblocking:
You could use Ad-Block/ AdHell to block the ads, completely rootless.
Or what I'd personally recommend (And keep in mind, I'm no rich guy) is DisconnectPro. It is costly at 25€ once, but it sure as hell blocks all advertisements or remotely any ad activity.
Works well inside YouTube too, so it's basically ad-free.
Might give that a go, you can find it inside Samsug's store!
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Never been stock so have not tried disconnect pro. I belive it uses Knox? I hate the US carriers disabling features such as the spam caller ID since they want to sell their own product. I used to use csc to enable this but with new encrypted csc this is not possible.
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I've tried the VPN adblocks but none of them work as well as adaway. Good suggestions though.
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Yeah definitely not better then adaway. Best 1 I've used so far adguard.
probably stick with samsung
i've no longer have any interest to root plus after setting up samsung pay, you cant really go back
not sure why but this is the first android device i've own in the past 5 years that i've no intentions to root at all
nougat + samsung OEM just felt so complete as an android system
After seeing the OEM unlock crap happen on the exynos Note 8 i went and got a pixel 2 XL.
Although admittedly I am a big fan of samsung and have owned a ton of their devices i will not spend my money on device that i cant do what I want with.
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I will most likely still stick with the Note line, I rooted and ROMd my 2/3/4 notes but haven't felt any real need to do so with the Note 8, I might at a later stage just for fun but only because I have two of them
j_hansen said:
I will most likely still stick with the Note line, I rooted and ROMd my 2/3/4 notes but haven't felt any real need to do so with the Note 8, I might at a later stage just for fun but only because I have two of them
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I agree that root isnt as necessary as it used to be but its more the principle of it.
If im dropping $1200 or more (im in Canada) on a device i will be damned if i dont have total control over it.
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I'll go with Nokia Flashlight and it's fantastic 2 weeks battery life
Cristiano Matos said:
I'll go with Nokia Flashlight and it's fantastic 2 weeks battery life
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screen is a bit small for porn though
Hello.
I am rooting my all phones starting from nokia 5700 xpress music.(Although it wasnt android, i used to install python and other stuffs).
My last phone was OP2. I rooted that too for screen calibration, cpu throttling, speaker volume, camera and viper.
Honesty i miss viper on note8. Apart from this i didnt found any other reason to root this device while using from last 2 months. Please remember if you root this phone or any other secured phone, you loose knox or other secure feature including payment othions like samsung pay.
I am using Exynos device and pretty much happy with all the performance.

should i buy?

hey i am currently on the market for a new phone, i currently have the google pixel xl and i love it, ive heard bad things about the 2xl though with all the problems it has and i dont like the fact that the s9+ is unrootable in america and the international version doesnt work on my carrier sprint because they only support cdma bands and the international version only supports the GSM bands and ive heard the OP6 is terrible from a lot of people so that really just leaves the note 8 but it doesnt seem like theres much as far as development goes for it
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hey i am currently on the market for a new phone, i currently have the google pixel xl and i love it, ive heard bad things about the 2xl though with all the problems it has and i dont like the fact that the s9+ is unrootable in america and the international version doesnt work on my carrier sprint because they only support cdma bands and the international version only supports the GSM bands and ive heard the OP6 is terrible from a lot of people so that really just leaves the note 8 but it doesnt seem like theres much as far as development goes for it
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U.S. snapdragons are also bootloader locked, like the S9s. The international versions are not, and have lots of development in the roms section. Not sure they would work with Sprint either though.
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U.S. snapdragons are also bootloader locked, like the S9s. The international versions are not, and have lots of development in the roms section. Not sure they would work with Sprint either though.
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it makes me wonder though, if i can buy an unlocked phone then why are the bands different? shouldnt an unlocked phone be able to go to any carrier with both gsm and cdma?
Veid71 said:
it makes me wonder though, if i can buy an unlocked phone then why are the bands different? shouldnt an unlocked phone be able to go to any carrier with both gsm and cdma?
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I know what you mean, but I guess there are just different phones for different markets. If they are sim unlocked then all it means is that it is not locked to a particular carrier. It doesn't automatically guarantee that it will work with every carrier around the globe, or work in the exact same way. I believe the U.S. Snapdragons have CDMA (unlike Exynos), but I've never used Sprint so can't say for certain how that works. I can't see the Note 8 being different from the S9 in that regard.
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I know what you mean, but I guess there are just different phones for different markets. If they are sim unlocked then all it means is that it is not locked to a particular carrier. It doesn't automatically guarantee that it will work with every carrier around the globe, or work in the exact same way. I believe the U.S. Snapdragons have CDMA (unlike Exynos), but I've never used Sprint so can't say for certain how that works.
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yeah i just looked up their processors and it looks like snapdragon supports gsm and cdma but exynos doesnt support cdma atleast for the s9+ so im still stuck lol it looks like the note 8 you can root on the sprint version but i didnt see too much development for it is snapdragon just unrootable or do you think theyll find a way to root it? i really like the features and things of the s9+ but theres just such an untapped reservoir of potential with not rooting it
Veid71 said:
yeah i just looked up their processors and it looks like snapdragon supports gsm and cdma but exynos doesnt support cdma atleast for the s9+ so im still stuck lol it looks like the note 8 you can root on the sprint version but i didnt see too much development for it is snapdragon just unrootable or do you think theyll find a way to root it? i really like the features and things of the s9+ but theres just such an untapped reservoir of potential with not rooting it
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I have an Exynos so I may be mistaken here, but to my knowledge the U.S. snapdragons were able to be rooted on Nougat (even with their locked bootloaders), but it's not possible at the moment on Oreo. That could change, but I don't know how likely (or unlikely) that is. Check out the SamFail thread for more info on root for Snapdragon.
sefrcoko said:
I have an Exynos so I may be mistaken here, but to my knowledge the U.S. snapdragons were able to be rooted on Nougat (even with their locked bootloaders), but it's not possible at the moment on Oreo. That could change, but I don't know how likely (or unlikely) that is. Check out the SamFail thread for more info on root for Snapdragon.
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the s9+ can be rooted? ill check it out
I am starting to consider the Note 8 as well. I had a Note 3, loved it, had an S7 Edge for a couple years but recently sold that and picked up a Pixel 2 XL. In my case the 2 XL is a great phone, it's fast, stock android is great, but it continually drops the Bluetooth connection to my Gear S3 frontier which is maddening. The S7 Edge was rock solid and never once dropped the connection to the watch, the 2 XL has dropped the connection at least half a dozen times today alone.
$200 off currently on an unlocked Note 8 has me seriously considering returning the 2 XL as I am still within the 30 day return period.
Veid71 said:
the s9+ can be rooted? ill check it out
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I don't know about the s9, I was speaking about the note 8.
The most important reason to buy a note series device should be the s pen, in your case, I believe that the spen is not the main reason, so, I would sugest to you to get another device
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I am starting to consider the Note 8 as well. I had a Note 3, loved it, had an S7 Edge for a couple years but recently sold that and picked up a Pixel 2 XL. In my case the 2 XL is a great phone, it's fast, stock android is great, but it continually drops the Bluetooth connection to my Gear S3 frontier which is maddening. The S7 Edge was rock solid and never once dropped the connection to the watch, the 2 XL has dropped the connection at least half a dozen times today alone.
$200 off currently on an unlocked Note 8 has me seriously considering returning the 2 XL as I am still within the 30 day return period.
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I've actually just today considering trading my Unlocked Note 8 for the Google Pixel XL 2 but it didn't go through as planned. I'm really interested in the great camera on the XL 2 and I'd like to try the stock Android experience. Do you only have Bluetooth issues on the gear s3? I have the Fitbit Ionic and use Bluetooth in my truck so if there's a serious Bluetooth issue I'm not so sure anymore. I had the same Bluetooth issues on the LG V20 which is why I got the Note 8.
xbmoyx said:
I've actually just today considering trading my Unlocked Note 8 for the Google Pixel XL 2 but it didn't go through as planned. I'm really interested in the great camera on the XL 2 and I'd like to try the stock Android experience. Do you only have Bluetooth issues on the gear s3? I have the Fitbit Ionic and use Bluetooth in my truck so if there's a serious Bluetooth issue I'm not so sure anymore. I had the same Bluetooth issues on the LG V20 which is why I got the Note 8.
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Honestly, as much as I love the Pixel 2 XL, the camera is great and stock Android is exactly what I had hoped (no junk apps, nothing I can't remove if I don't want it etc.) the Bluetooth issues are seriously frustrating. What is doubly annoying is that on Monday for example, it disconnected from my Gear S3 at least half a dozen times, but yesterday did not disconnect a single time. If you take a look though, BT connectivity issues definitely plague the 2XL, take a look at this thread for example, started in October last year: https://productforums.google.com/fo...!msg/phone-by-google/-lpPfDGvkNw/hzLdYStbAgAJ As you can see, it is still ongoing and covers all sorts of devices.
I am kind of stuck really, part of me wants to return the phone because I use the Gear S3 far more than I ever expected, taking calls on it is handy if I am in the garage for example and don't have my phone on me, my work calendar syncs to it which is great for quickly checking in the morning on my meetings etc. But, on the flip side the phone is so fast and smooth, that I really enjoy using it.
Overall how do you like the Note 8? I loved my Note 3, one of my favorite phones to date.
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Honestly, as much as I love the Pixel 2 XL, the camera is great and stock Android is exactly what I had hoped (no junk apps, nothing I can't remove if I don't want it etc.) the Bluetooth issues are seriously frustrating. What is doubly annoying is that on Monday for example, it disconnected from my Gear S3 at least half a dozen times, but yesterday did not disconnect a single time. If you take a look though, BT connectivity issues definitely plague the 2XL, take a look at this thread for example, started in October last year: https://productforums.google.com/fo...!msg/phone-by-google/-lpPfDGvkNw/hzLdYStbAgAJ As you can see, it is still ongoing and covers all sorts of devices.
I am kind of stuck really, part of me wants to return the phone because I use the Gear S3 far more than I ever expected, taking calls on it is handy if I am in the garage for example and don't have my phone on me, my work calendar syncs to it which is great for quickly checking in the morning on my meetings etc. But, on the flip side the phone is so fast and smooth, that I really enjoy using it.
Overall how do you like the Note 8? I loved my Note 3, one of my favorite phones to date.
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Thank you for your honesty. I did further research and I found many saying my $300 Fitbit Ionic watch isn't compatible with the Pixel 2 XL, so I'm glad I didn't trade my device yet. The only device I wouldn't mind trading for is the S9+ because I know there won't be any issues with compatibility.
Buy an iphone
xbmoyx said:
Thank you for your honesty. I did further research and I found many saying my $300 Fitbit Ionic watch isn't compatible with the Pixel 2 XL, so I'm glad I didn't trade my device yet. The only device I wouldn't mind trading for is the S9+ because I know there won't be any issues with compatibility.
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No problem, I wish I had known about the Bluetooth issue before getting my 2XL. I had heard there were some issues but was not expecting it to be quite so extensive. Annoyingly, I may be stuck with the phone as I am a few days outside the 15-day return window, which will leave me just hoping for a fix.
smiley45 said:
Buy an iphone
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:laugh::laugh::laugh:
smiley45 said:
Buy an iphone
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You sellin?

Considering T-Mobile upgrade - any hope for root?

I had a Samsung S4, rooted it, loved it. I upgrade to the S7e without checking, and no root. I upgraded to LG G7, thinking they couldn't possibly be this bad - no root.
So, any hope of the T-Mobile version having root? It's not a dealbreaker (the G7 has terrible cameras anyway) but knowing what the options are is nice.
I'm hoping that I can still get the $390 off when trading in my G7 despite getting two with the B1G1 a year ago... lol
Thanks!
Based upon past history, the T-Mobile SD855 version (or any American variant) is unlikely to get root, due to locked bootloader. I had a TMo S7 which got root via a leaked engineering kernel, but it was not satisfactory to me, nor many people. I got an international Exynos S7 which has full root, ROMs, etc. and is WAY better. The Exynos S10 is expected to get the full root treatment, but it hasn't yet. I'm holding off on buying a G970F S10e until root is established. Typically takes roughly a month, if I remember correctly, although this model appears it will be a bit trickier.
If you're counting on being able to root this phone, the best advice is probably get another phone. My Note4 took almost two years to see root and by the time it did, most developers had moved on. The Note7 had an engineering kernel "leaked" but that phone didn't last long. The Note8 was rooted for a short time but without an unlocked bootloader and an available recovery, flashing ROMs wasn't possible.
The enthusiast community is so small these days it doesn't pay to unlock the bootloaders. Samsung and others make far more money selling to corporations and government entities which value security.
Zero to None for the North American Snapdragon...
Unless you get the China version. That I believe has unlockable Snapdragon.
Ndaoud360 said:
Unless you get the China version. That I believe has unlockable Snapdragon.
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Where did you read that?
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Where did you read that?
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Non-North American Snapdragon (China, Central/South America) models are traditionally bootloader unlockable.
The unrooted T-Mobile S10 is okay at best. It's only real saving feature is the sound quality
Finance the Razer Phone 2. It's only $500
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The unrooted T-Mobile S10 is okay at best. It's only real saving feature is the sound quality
Finance the Razer Phone 2. It's only $500
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Seems like a nice phone, and a great value, though I am not a huge fan of no headphone jack. Also it's a side grade for me from my G7 (both are S845s). But looking at the forum, rooting sure looks easy. I'll keep it in mind, thanks.
IBJamon said:
Seems like a nice phone, and a great value, though I am not a huge fan of no headphone jack. Also it's a side grade for me from my G7 (both are S845s). But looking at the forum, rooting sure looks easy. I'll keep it in mind, thanks.
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Processing speed difference is infinitesimal in my opinion, and rooting will just get easier very soon. Razer just released full audio source and the devs are >< that close to cracking the encryption issue for fully working TWRP
Samsung doesn't care about the development community and their last good phone in my opinion was the S5
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Where did you read that?
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Exactly what the dude below you said and the should work well with Verizon and Sprint according to Chinese Note 9 (same bands as Chinese s10) users claiming they got everything working at least on Verizon.

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