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As title stated. V10 boot looped but it's being covered under warranty. Unfortunately, I fully expect it to come back with MM or N which as far as I know isn't xposable or downgrade-able to LP.
What is the newest phone that I could get from Verizon or Best buy(can't afford to pay retail will have to use financing) that I can root and put xposed on? I don't care about TWRP or custom roming. If I have to get TWRP to root that's fine but I'm okay without it. I'd also like to avoid the "What do you need root for" discussions. I need certain modules, that you can't do without root.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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As title stated. V10 boot looped but it's being covered under warranty. Unfortunately, I fully expect it to come back with MM or N which as far as I know isn't xposable or downgrade-able to LP. What is the newest phone that I could get from Verizon or Best buy(can't afford to pay retail will have to use financing) that I can root and put xposed on? I don't care about TWRP or custom roming. If I have to get TWRP to root that's fine but I'm okay without it. I'd also like to avoid the "What do you need root for" discussions. I need certain modules, that you can't do without root. Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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I don't believe that this location is the best one that you'll really receive a good response from...
The following thread is probably the better choice for posting this question.
[Discussion] What's your next smartphone / What should I buy by poseidon5213
Good Luck!
***Please Note: As always, I welcome any member to help with further valuable information/clarification for any of my posts.
Sent via Communicator [D2VZW] from the Bridge of the U.S.S. Enterprise...
Ibuprophen said:
I don't believe that this location is the best one that you'll really receive a good response from...
The following thread is probably the better choice for posting this question.
[Discussion] What's your next smartphone / What should I buy by poseidon5213
Good Luck!
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Thanks. I'm tried a few places and haven't had any luck yet. I'll give that thread a shot as well. Thanks for your response.
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As title stated. V10 boot looped but it's being covered under warranty. Unfortunately, I fully expect it to come back with MM or N which as far as I know isn't xposable or downgrade-able to LP.
What is the newest phone that I could get from Verizon or Best buy(can't afford to pay retail will have to use financing) that I can root and put xposed on? I don't care about TWRP or custom roming. If I have to get TWRP to root that's fine but I'm okay without it. I'd also like to avoid the "What do you need root for" discussions. I need certain modules, that you can't do without root.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Moto x pure
nostang3 said:
As title stated. V10 boot looped but it's being covered under warranty. Unfortunately, I fully expect it to come back with MM or N which as far as I know isn't xposable or downgrade-able to LP.
What is the newest phone that I could get from Verizon or Best buy(can't afford to pay retail will have to use financing) that I can root and put xposed on? I don't care about TWRP or custom roming. If I have to get TWRP to root that's fine but I'm okay without it. I'd also like to avoid the "What do you need root for" discussions. I need certain modules, that you can't do without root.
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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Affordable option is a Moto G4 Play XT1607 which can be obtained online or through major retailers like Best Buy. Don't purchase through Verizion as their branded variant (XT1609) can not be bootloader unlocked or rooted. Comes with Marshmallow (Android 6.x) which supports Xposed Framework. Should be able to find in the $100-120 range USD; refurbs typically hover around $100.
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Affordable option is a Moto G4 Play XT1607 which can be obtained online or through major retailers like Best Buy. Don't purchase through Verizion as their branded variant (XT1609) can not be bootloader unlocked or rooted. Comes with Marshmallow (Android 6.x) which supports Xposed Framework. Should be able to find in the $100-120 range USD; refurbs typically hover around $100.
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I appreciate the input. The Moto G4 has an old cpu(Snapdragon 410 processor). I would like something comparable to my v10(Qualcomm Snapdragon 808). It was made in Oct 2015 and is almost 2 years old. Surely there has to be a phone released around the same time or later that is xposable?
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I appreciate the input. The Moto G4 has an old cpu(Snapdragon 410 processor). I would like something comparable to my v10(Qualcomm Snapdragon 808). It was made in Oct 2015 and is almost 2 years old. Surely there has to be a phone released around the same time or later that is xposable?
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Moto pure as mentioned by another poster. Also consider if you really need that horsepower. I have several devices with the G4 occupying the lower end. Performance is most noticeable when installing/updating apps on initializing a new ROM. Beyond that responsiveness mirrors my high end devices for daily tasks. Obviously does not apply if you game, manipulate video or regularly perform other CPU/GPU intensive tasks.
BTW - really isn't the right thread for this kind of Q&A. Good luck finding a replacement.
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Moto pure as mentioned by another poster. Also consider if you really need that horsepower. I have several devices with the G4 occupying the lower end. Performance is most noticeable when installing/updating apps on initializing a new ROM. Beyond that responsiveness mirrors my high end devices for daily tasks. Obviously does not apply if you game, manipulate video or regularly perform other CPU/GPU intensive tasks.
BTW - really isn't the right thread for this kind of Q&A. Good luck finding a replacement.
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Thanks. I think I've just got accustomed to the response time of using my v10. When I'm constantly switching between apps, viewing media, uploading files, and using media apps that require Just-in-time downloads to use(Instagram/Snapchat) I hate the stuttering/pausing when slower phones like my g2(currently using) has that wasn't there for the v10.
I've tried reddit with no luck. I've also tried the thread the other member suggested because he said as much as you did about this thread but no one answered there either. I figured this would be the best place to find people using xposed devices who are on VZW and could just drop by and say "Hey I'm using this phone with xposed." Mods are welcome to delete this thread if they feel it's clogging things up or doesn't belong.
Thanks for you reply.
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Thanks. I think I've just got accustomed to the response time of using my v10. When I'm constantly switching between apps, viewing media, uploading files, and using media apps that require Just-in-time downloads to use(Instagram/Snapchat) I hate the stuttering/pausing when slower phones like my g2(currently using) has that wasn't there for the v10.
I've tried reddit with no luck. I've also tried the thread the other member suggested because he said as much as you did about this thread but no one answered there either. I figured this would be the best place to find people using xposed devices who are on VZW and could just drop by and say "Hey I'm using this phone with xposed." Mods are welcome to delete this thread if they feel it's clogging things up or doesn't belong.
Thanks for you reply.
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Look at the x pure, I had one, has all the radios, bootloader unlocksble, magisk capable, currently doesn't have nougat = xposed (gravity box on stock rom is all you need), has the 808. It can be had for 200-260 on swappa. Doesn't have nfc however, camera is meh.
I really liked it when I had it. It's a good phone
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Look at the x pure, I had one, has all the radios, bootloader unlocksble, magisk capable, currently doesn't have nougat = xposed (gravity box on stock rom is all you need), has the 808. It can be had for 200-260 on swappa. Doesn't have nfc however, camera is meh.
I really liked it when I had it. It's a good phone
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I have and it seems like a great phone. Thanks for you reply.
Oneplus 3T, the most powerful smartphone with android MM in my opinion.
Full HD, Snapdragon 821, Adreno 530, 6 Gb RAM, 64/128 Gb, Fingerprint, 3.5mm audio jack, 3400 mAh battery with dash charge (super fast), dual Sim...
Rocking root + xposed on my 3T ?
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Oneplus 3T, the most powerful smartphone with android MM in my opinion.
Full HD, Snapdragon 821, Adreno 530, 6 Gb RAM, 64/128 Gb, Fingerprint, 3.5mm audio jack, 3400 mAh battery with dash charge (super fast), dual Sim...
Rocking root + xposed on my 3T ?
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Are you on Verizon? I don't think OnePlus works with the VZW network.
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Are you on Verizon? I don't think OnePlus works with the VZW network.
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No I'm with Virgin Mobile Canada. The Oneplus 3T support a lot of network. In fact, there is 3 different version of the 3T ; A3000, A3003 and A3010 (mine is A3000, the North America Version). Be sure to buy the right one for your country.
You can check network compatibility here : http://willmyphonework.net
Hope it help
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No I'm with Virgin Mobile Canada. The Oneplus 3T support a lot of network. In fact, there is 3 different version of the 3T ; A3000, A3003 and A3010 (mine is A3000). Be sure to buy the right one for your country
You can check network compatibility here : http://willmyphonework.net
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From what I read, and that site, it might work on verizon, if the area you are in happens to use the bands it uses. It only has one or two of the 4g bands of Verizon. So it could work were I'm at but not work if I happen to travel out of my city.
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From what I read, and that site, it might work on verizon, if the area you are in happens to use the bands it uses. It only has one or two of the 4g bands of Verizon. So it could work were I'm at but not work if I happen to travel out of my city.
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This is unfortunate my 3T is fully sopported by my carrier so I enjoy it, but I understand if it it only patially supported by your carrier, it might not be the best deal for you. Good luck finding your perfect marshmallow phone then
htc10 ftw (i have unlocked version, but i believe you can root the verizon version)
Maybe ZTE Axon 7. Although there seems to be some issues after upgrading to Nougat from Marshmallow.
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From what I read, and that site, it might work on verizon, if the area you are in happens to use the bands it uses. It only has one or two of the 4g bands of Verizon. So it could work were I'm at but not work if I happen to travel out of my city.
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To my knowledge a phone has to be approved by Verizon to work on their network as well. If all the bands aren't supported, they'll never let you use it. You could buy a Nexus 6p, it's approved and you could flash back to MM if you need it that badly.
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To my knowledge a phone has to be approved by Verizon to work on their network as well. If all the bands aren't supported, they'll never let you use it. You could buy a Nexus 6p, it's approved and you could flash back to MM if you need it that badly.
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Yup. I got my eye on Moto Pure right now. It's about 100 or more less than the 6p similar specs and just as modable.
Am I understanding correct that as of yet, the snapdragon version of the note 8 cannot be rooted?
Also, if I am planning on rooting, should I NOT take the current ota update?
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Am I understanding correct that as of yet, the snapdragon version of the note 8 cannot be rooted?
Also, if I am planning on rooting, should I NOT take the current ota update?
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There may eventually be an engineer-kernel related root maybe 6 months down the road, but it will be super limited and slow.
Also, OTA won't affect root, since an engineer kernel can be flashed over anything (since its for developers to test hardware).
I have the Snapdragon variant as well here in Canada, and I'm selling the phone for full value and will be ordering the F model on Swiftronics when its available (as of now only the FD is up). I'm currently selling it on Kijiji, but if I don't sell it in 5 days, I'm going to drive to Mississuaga to refund it at the Samsung store, and then I'll pop by the Swiftronic retail store which is also conveniently in Mississuaga as well.
Lastly, as you are most likely aware, rooting any Samsung phone will void full warranty 99% of the time, and is NOT covered by any imported variant (anything outside your country regardless of the method of purchase). This includes Swiftronics retail outlet (just got off the phone with them).
So if you really want to keep your warranty, I would suggest waiting for the Snapdragon root, which will most likely keep the warranty and risk having to wait up to a year and have super limited abilities, or sell the phone, get the F variant and lose warranty completely and obtain 100% root access with full kernel/ROM support. I'm personally choosing this option, as I thought I could live without root, but the small things add up and make it impossible for me to live without lol.
Not so worried about warranty but will this phone never get a full and proper root like every other android phone I've owned?
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Not so worried about warranty but will this phone never get a full and proper root like every other android phone I've owned?
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You may want to track the history of rooting previous Samsung phones. The short answer is that an unlocked bootloader has been very difficult to achieve on Snapdragon SOCs. Without that, root is a hit or miss.
What are you trying to do that your stock phone can't?
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You may want to track the history of rooting previous Samsung phones. The short answer is that an unlocked bootloader has been very difficult to achieve on Snapdragon SOCs. Without that, root is a hit or miss.
What are you trying to do that your stock phone can't?
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F2FS makes the phone snappy AF
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ParrSt said:
Not so worried about warranty but will this phone never get a full and proper root like every other android phone I've owned?
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Take a look at this thread for S8+, root took almost 5 1/2 months and it still has a locked bootloader.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/ga...root-g955u-g955u1-snapdragon-sampwnd-t3658911
I didn't get a chance to mess root on the s8 but using the ENG kernel on the s7 edge to get root was horrible. wasn't really worth the trade off IMO. it slowed down the phone, lagged like crazy. even after messing with kernel settings to make it stable it still was slower then stock. I know how important root is to some people but anymore stock with some ADB mods is OK with me. I wish I had root to debloat my phone some on the stock TMO firmware(unlocked firmware loses to many features) but it is what it is for now.
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You may want to track the history of rooting previous Samsung phones. The short answer is that an unlocked bootloader has been very difficult to achieve on Snapdragon SOCs. Without that, root is a hit or miss.
What are you trying to do that your stock phone can't?
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I always liked finding a custom Rom that has cool icons and battery mods and choosing setting options that my room doesn't have. I just like full customization.
My friends worship me better when i have root, since we all have the same phone, and they see what i can do after root, i charge $50 for root and $75 to install rom, $150 w/root/rom/complete debloatation!
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Every phone that I have owned that had a locked bootloader has gotten root. Every one of them. Now you might not be able to flash kernels. But I never do that anyway. So don't worry about it the Snapdragon will get root. Remember the phone just came out on the 15th. I guarantee someone is working on root as we speak.
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I always liked finding a custom Rom that has cool icons and battery mods and choosing setting options that my room doesn't have. I just like full customization.
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I did too in the past but not on the S8+ or the Note 8. There is now Substratum for Samsung without root and SytemUI Tuner from the Play Store that you only need several adb commands to give it permissions where you can really make it yours. Also a thread on the S8+ site for layers and most of those work on the Note 8 too.
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I did too in the past but not on the S8+ or the Note 8. There is now Substratum for Samsung without root and SytemUI Tuner from the Play Store that you only need several adb commands to give it permissions where you can really make it yours. Also a thread on the S8+ site for layers and most of those work on the Note 8 too.
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Watch “Reason for root” on Vimeo: https://vimeo.com/234526431
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ggrant3876 said:
I did too in the past but not on the S8+ or the Note 8. There is now Substratum for Samsung without root and SytemUI Tuner from the Play Store that you only need several adb commands to give it permissions where you can really make it yours. Also a thread on the S8+ site for layers and most of those work on the Note 8 too.
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Do you use Swift for Samsung on the note 8? If so, what layers do you use? The ones for the S8/S8+?
jason504 said:
Every phone that I have owned that had a locked bootloader has gotten root. Every one of them. Now you might not be able to flash kernels. But I never do that anyway. So don't worry about it the Snapdragon will get root. Remember the phone just came out on the 15th. I guarantee someone is working on root as we speak.
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It will be hacked root like the s8, hopefully not limited to 80% battery charge
sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
force70 said:
It will be hacked root like the s8, hopefully not limited to 80% battery charge
sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
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What do you mean 80 battery charge?
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What do you mean 80 battery charge?
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If you root you can only charge to 80%.
Unless it was already fixed, i have an exynos so dont read alot on the snapdragon so dont know.
sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
force70 said:
If you root you can only charge to 80%.
Unless it was already fixed, i have an exynos so dont read alot on the snapdragon so dont know.
sent from my Note FE, S8 plus, or S6
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Well that sucks I will not root if that's the case.
GermanGuy said:
Do you use Swift for Samsung on the note 8? If so, what layers do you use? The ones for the S8/S8+?
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Right now I'm using Swift Dark for the S8, and I'm using the nav bar from here, Parapaer. Using the carrier hider from here. Got rid of the battery charging icon from here, with several adb commands for permissions. Haven't had a single issue but if you do just boot into safe mode and uninstall the offending layer.
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Honestly I was looking at this question and it made me think because I've also rooted every single phone I've had for the past seven years this is the first Samsung device I bought I usually stuck to Motorola and the Nexus lineup and all of those phones I rooted them to do everything the Galaxy Note 8 does by default already customisation and performance
Up until yesterday the only real reason I had to root my Note 8 was to disable Bixby but Samsung did the right thing and gave me that already
Now I honestly don't even care about rooting
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If you root you can only charge to 80%.
Unless it was already fixed, i have an exynos so dont read alot on the snapdragon so dont know.
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It's been fixed, hill billy method.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=73619880&postcount=2399
What other devices are you considering if Samsung continues upping security and locking down their phones. (Lets says all Samsung devices snapdragon and exynos had locked bootloaders)
Working in IT in the Mobile realm I can definitely see the impact that Samsung Knox and Samsung’s focus on security is having. Samsung is pushing it very hard and this lets them maintain dominance on enterprise as far as the android side is concerned. However, to our (xda community) detriment these security features and components are lost when we root. Notwithstanding I was fine with loosing Samsung pay and Knox. It looks like with newer Samsung devices and updates Samsung is really ramping up. I have always been a fan of the Note series and switched to an S7 edge to wait for the Note 7. After the Note 7’s demise I decided to switch to the s8 Plus until the Note 8 was coming out. With recent news on new bootloaders preventing downgrades and bricking devices, Note 8’s having encrypted CSC’s disallowing modification and I’m assuming when Oreo comes out for these devices more security features and processes will leave rooters out in the cold. I was surprised to see the new “feature” Samsung added with the OEM unlock toggle being removed on users devices and them being in “Jail” for several days. I can only assume the s9 and maybe with Oreo updates on older Samsung devices they will also be getting this “Enhancement”. So, it seems to me the days of rooting and enhancing your device are limited at best. Rebooting your phone and being locked out doesn’t seem very appealing to me. Anyway, not to ramble I’m curious what other manufacturers are contenders for some of Samsung’s modding community users. There are very limited manufacturers who are open to their devices being modified. I’ve stuck with Samsung so long because of their cameras and superb hardware and features but now I’m left wondering can I run a stock Samsung device and all the crap T-Mobile and other carriers load on it. I was reading and some users flashing unlocked firmware on their carrier devices were getting bricked with the new bootloader so no help there. What devices would you consider if you consider if in the future if say CDMA was no longer needed and Samsung ran exynos for all their products and they locked the bootloaders. Would you still use a Samsung unrooted or what manufacture would you jump to?
I’m actually holding off from a Note 8 until I see what the Oreo update brings and what else changes and is locked down. The encrypted CSC's also disallow for enabling some core features T-Mobile disables on their version.
When OnePlus finally starts having the premium features as other flagships do. Goodbye Samsung!
Im probably gunna go essential 2 or pixel 3 xl(if its made by htc or inhouse google)
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Im probably gunna go essential 2 or pixel 3 xl(if its made by htc or inhouse google)
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Surprised your not scared of pixel. That screen controversy was pretty bad. LG makes there screens. I am familiar with LG quality issues. My last two LGs had bad burn in and other issues with screen.
Essential I know nothing about. But phone is looking promising from the lil I read.
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Surprised your not scared of pixel. That screen controversy was pretty bad. LG makes there screens. I am familiar with LG quality issues. My last two LGs had bad burn in and other issues with screen.
Essential I know nothing about. But phone is looking promising from the lil I read.
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I AM scared of LG garbage. If any part of it is LG on the p3XL im not getting it. Some of my dev friends got the essential and they said its their absolute favorite phone so far.
Would most likely stay with Samsung because rooting apart from theming doesn't add much to the Phone imho. It's good and all, some features yeah they suck but I can glance over them because the whole package is good.
If they'd however harden the ability to sideload apps, I'd definitely jump ship to an iPhone.
Inb4 the Apple haters:
OP asked for opinions, don't cry about an iPhone being mentioned.
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I AM scared of LG garbage. If any part of it is LG on the p3XL im not getting it. Some of my dev friends got the essential and they said its their absolute favorite phone so far.
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Yeah stay away from anything LG. Only phone that LG actually makes good is V30. They do make excellent audio in devices. I doubt google uses LG screens in next pixel. Hopefully they hit up Samsung. Now that company knows how to make a good screen.
Now you seem to know more about essential phone. Is it better then OnePlus? In terms of features and Rom/root community size?
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When OnePlus finally starts having the premium features as other flagships do. Goodbye Samsung!
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Yeah, looking at videos on the 5t now. If I had to choose right now it would probably be oneplus.
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Im probably gunna go essential 2 or pixel 3 xl(if its made by htc or inhouse google)
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Hmm I hadn't thought about essential. Need a larger device from them. Played with a Pixel 2 xl at work and its ok. Screen was the worst part.
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I AM scared of LG garbage. If any part of it is LG on the p3XL im not getting it. Some of my dev friends got the essential and they said its their absolute favorite phone so far.
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Thanks for the input.
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Would most likely stay with Samsung because rooting apart from theming doesn't add much to the Phone imho. It's good and all, some features yeah they suck but I can glance over them because the whole package is good.
If they'd however harden the ability to sideload apps, I'd definitely jump ship to an iPhone.
Inb4 the Apple haters:
OP asked for opinions, don't cry about an iPhone being mentioned.
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I really like root for blocking ads and viper4android. When I play with non root phones I can't belive all the advertisements.
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naruto.ninjakid said:
Yeah, looking at videos on the 5t now. If I had to choose right now it would probably be oneplus. Hmm I hadn't thought about essential. Need a larger device from them. Played with a Pixel 2 xl at work and its ok. Screen was the worst part. Thanks for the input. I really like root for blocking ads and viper4android. When I play with non root phones I can't belive all the advertisements.
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OnePlus amount of Roms is breathtaking. There's good non root apps for blocking ads.
Probable Solution
naruto.ninjakid said:
Yeah, looking at videos on the 5t now. If I had to choose right now it would probably be oneplus. Hmm I hadn't thought about essential. Need a larger device from them. Played with a Pixel 2 xl at work and its ok. Screen was the worst part. Thanks for the input. I really like root for blocking ads and viper4android. When I play with non root phones I can't belive all the advertisements.
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Understandable, I loved V4A too!
For the adblocking:
You could use Ad-Block/ AdHell to block the ads, completely rootless.
Or what I'd personally recommend (And keep in mind, I'm no rich guy) is DisconnectPro. It is costly at 25€ once, but it sure as hell blocks all advertisements or remotely any ad activity.
Works well inside YouTube too, so it's basically ad-free.
Might give that a go, you can find it inside Samsug's store!
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OnePlus amount of Roms is breathtaking. There's good non root apps for blocking ads.
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I've tried the VPN adblocks but none of them work as well as adaway. Good suggestions though.
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SaadatM said:
Understandable, I loved V4A too!
For the adblocking:
You could use Ad-Block/ AdHell to block the ads, completely rootless.
Or what I'd personally recommend (And keep in mind, I'm no rich guy) is DisconnectPro. It is costly at 25€ once, but it sure as hell blocks all advertisements or remotely any ad activity.
Works well inside YouTube too, so it's basically ad-free.
Might give that a go, you can find it inside Samsug's store!
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Never been stock so have not tried disconnect pro. I belive it uses Knox? I hate the US carriers disabling features such as the spam caller ID since they want to sell their own product. I used to use csc to enable this but with new encrypted csc this is not possible.
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I've tried the VPN adblocks but none of them work as well as adaway. Good suggestions though.
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Yeah definitely not better then adaway. Best 1 I've used so far adguard.
probably stick with samsung
i've no longer have any interest to root plus after setting up samsung pay, you cant really go back
not sure why but this is the first android device i've own in the past 5 years that i've no intentions to root at all
nougat + samsung OEM just felt so complete as an android system
After seeing the OEM unlock crap happen on the exynos Note 8 i went and got a pixel 2 XL.
Although admittedly I am a big fan of samsung and have owned a ton of their devices i will not spend my money on device that i cant do what I want with.
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I will most likely still stick with the Note line, I rooted and ROMd my 2/3/4 notes but haven't felt any real need to do so with the Note 8, I might at a later stage just for fun but only because I have two of them
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I will most likely still stick with the Note line, I rooted and ROMd my 2/3/4 notes but haven't felt any real need to do so with the Note 8, I might at a later stage just for fun but only because I have two of them
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I agree that root isnt as necessary as it used to be but its more the principle of it.
If im dropping $1200 or more (im in Canada) on a device i will be damned if i dont have total control over it.
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I'll go with Nokia Flashlight and it's fantastic 2 weeks battery life
Cristiano Matos said:
I'll go with Nokia Flashlight and it's fantastic 2 weeks battery life
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screen is a bit small for porn though
Hello.
I am rooting my all phones starting from nokia 5700 xpress music.(Although it wasnt android, i used to install python and other stuffs).
My last phone was OP2. I rooted that too for screen calibration, cpu throttling, speaker volume, camera and viper.
Honesty i miss viper on note8. Apart from this i didnt found any other reason to root this device while using from last 2 months. Please remember if you root this phone or any other secured phone, you loose knox or other secure feature including payment othions like samsung pay.
I am using Exynos device and pretty much happy with all the performance.
hey i am currently on the market for a new phone, i currently have the google pixel xl and i love it, ive heard bad things about the 2xl though with all the problems it has and i dont like the fact that the s9+ is unrootable in america and the international version doesnt work on my carrier sprint because they only support cdma bands and the international version only supports the GSM bands and ive heard the OP6 is terrible from a lot of people so that really just leaves the note 8 but it doesnt seem like theres much as far as development goes for it
Veid71 said:
hey i am currently on the market for a new phone, i currently have the google pixel xl and i love it, ive heard bad things about the 2xl though with all the problems it has and i dont like the fact that the s9+ is unrootable in america and the international version doesnt work on my carrier sprint because they only support cdma bands and the international version only supports the GSM bands and ive heard the OP6 is terrible from a lot of people so that really just leaves the note 8 but it doesnt seem like theres much as far as development goes for it
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U.S. snapdragons are also bootloader locked, like the S9s. The international versions are not, and have lots of development in the roms section. Not sure they would work with Sprint either though.
sefrcoko said:
U.S. snapdragons are also bootloader locked, like the S9s. The international versions are not, and have lots of development in the roms section. Not sure they would work with Sprint either though.
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it makes me wonder though, if i can buy an unlocked phone then why are the bands different? shouldnt an unlocked phone be able to go to any carrier with both gsm and cdma?
Veid71 said:
it makes me wonder though, if i can buy an unlocked phone then why are the bands different? shouldnt an unlocked phone be able to go to any carrier with both gsm and cdma?
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I know what you mean, but I guess there are just different phones for different markets. If they are sim unlocked then all it means is that it is not locked to a particular carrier. It doesn't automatically guarantee that it will work with every carrier around the globe, or work in the exact same way. I believe the U.S. Snapdragons have CDMA (unlike Exynos), but I've never used Sprint so can't say for certain how that works. I can't see the Note 8 being different from the S9 in that regard.
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I know what you mean, but I guess there are just different phones for different markets. If they are sim unlocked then all it means is that it is not locked to a particular carrier. It doesn't automatically guarantee that it will work with every carrier around the globe, or work in the exact same way. I believe the U.S. Snapdragons have CDMA (unlike Exynos), but I've never used Sprint so can't say for certain how that works.
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yeah i just looked up their processors and it looks like snapdragon supports gsm and cdma but exynos doesnt support cdma atleast for the s9+ so im still stuck lol it looks like the note 8 you can root on the sprint version but i didnt see too much development for it is snapdragon just unrootable or do you think theyll find a way to root it? i really like the features and things of the s9+ but theres just such an untapped reservoir of potential with not rooting it
Veid71 said:
yeah i just looked up their processors and it looks like snapdragon supports gsm and cdma but exynos doesnt support cdma atleast for the s9+ so im still stuck lol it looks like the note 8 you can root on the sprint version but i didnt see too much development for it is snapdragon just unrootable or do you think theyll find a way to root it? i really like the features and things of the s9+ but theres just such an untapped reservoir of potential with not rooting it
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I have an Exynos so I may be mistaken here, but to my knowledge the U.S. snapdragons were able to be rooted on Nougat (even with their locked bootloaders), but it's not possible at the moment on Oreo. That could change, but I don't know how likely (or unlikely) that is. Check out the SamFail thread for more info on root for Snapdragon.
sefrcoko said:
I have an Exynos so I may be mistaken here, but to my knowledge the U.S. snapdragons were able to be rooted on Nougat (even with their locked bootloaders), but it's not possible at the moment on Oreo. That could change, but I don't know how likely (or unlikely) that is. Check out the SamFail thread for more info on root for Snapdragon.
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the s9+ can be rooted? ill check it out
I am starting to consider the Note 8 as well. I had a Note 3, loved it, had an S7 Edge for a couple years but recently sold that and picked up a Pixel 2 XL. In my case the 2 XL is a great phone, it's fast, stock android is great, but it continually drops the Bluetooth connection to my Gear S3 frontier which is maddening. The S7 Edge was rock solid and never once dropped the connection to the watch, the 2 XL has dropped the connection at least half a dozen times today alone.
$200 off currently on an unlocked Note 8 has me seriously considering returning the 2 XL as I am still within the 30 day return period.
Veid71 said:
the s9+ can be rooted? ill check it out
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I don't know about the s9, I was speaking about the note 8.
The most important reason to buy a note series device should be the s pen, in your case, I believe that the spen is not the main reason, so, I would sugest to you to get another device
naiku said:
I am starting to consider the Note 8 as well. I had a Note 3, loved it, had an S7 Edge for a couple years but recently sold that and picked up a Pixel 2 XL. In my case the 2 XL is a great phone, it's fast, stock android is great, but it continually drops the Bluetooth connection to my Gear S3 frontier which is maddening. The S7 Edge was rock solid and never once dropped the connection to the watch, the 2 XL has dropped the connection at least half a dozen times today alone.
$200 off currently on an unlocked Note 8 has me seriously considering returning the 2 XL as I am still within the 30 day return period.
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I've actually just today considering trading my Unlocked Note 8 for the Google Pixel XL 2 but it didn't go through as planned. I'm really interested in the great camera on the XL 2 and I'd like to try the stock Android experience. Do you only have Bluetooth issues on the gear s3? I have the Fitbit Ionic and use Bluetooth in my truck so if there's a serious Bluetooth issue I'm not so sure anymore. I had the same Bluetooth issues on the LG V20 which is why I got the Note 8.
xbmoyx said:
I've actually just today considering trading my Unlocked Note 8 for the Google Pixel XL 2 but it didn't go through as planned. I'm really interested in the great camera on the XL 2 and I'd like to try the stock Android experience. Do you only have Bluetooth issues on the gear s3? I have the Fitbit Ionic and use Bluetooth in my truck so if there's a serious Bluetooth issue I'm not so sure anymore. I had the same Bluetooth issues on the LG V20 which is why I got the Note 8.
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Honestly, as much as I love the Pixel 2 XL, the camera is great and stock Android is exactly what I had hoped (no junk apps, nothing I can't remove if I don't want it etc.) the Bluetooth issues are seriously frustrating. What is doubly annoying is that on Monday for example, it disconnected from my Gear S3 at least half a dozen times, but yesterday did not disconnect a single time. If you take a look though, BT connectivity issues definitely plague the 2XL, take a look at this thread for example, started in October last year: https://productforums.google.com/fo...!msg/phone-by-google/-lpPfDGvkNw/hzLdYStbAgAJ As you can see, it is still ongoing and covers all sorts of devices.
I am kind of stuck really, part of me wants to return the phone because I use the Gear S3 far more than I ever expected, taking calls on it is handy if I am in the garage for example and don't have my phone on me, my work calendar syncs to it which is great for quickly checking in the morning on my meetings etc. But, on the flip side the phone is so fast and smooth, that I really enjoy using it.
Overall how do you like the Note 8? I loved my Note 3, one of my favorite phones to date.
naiku said:
Honestly, as much as I love the Pixel 2 XL, the camera is great and stock Android is exactly what I had hoped (no junk apps, nothing I can't remove if I don't want it etc.) the Bluetooth issues are seriously frustrating. What is doubly annoying is that on Monday for example, it disconnected from my Gear S3 at least half a dozen times, but yesterday did not disconnect a single time. If you take a look though, BT connectivity issues definitely plague the 2XL, take a look at this thread for example, started in October last year: https://productforums.google.com/fo...!msg/phone-by-google/-lpPfDGvkNw/hzLdYStbAgAJ As you can see, it is still ongoing and covers all sorts of devices.
I am kind of stuck really, part of me wants to return the phone because I use the Gear S3 far more than I ever expected, taking calls on it is handy if I am in the garage for example and don't have my phone on me, my work calendar syncs to it which is great for quickly checking in the morning on my meetings etc. But, on the flip side the phone is so fast and smooth, that I really enjoy using it.
Overall how do you like the Note 8? I loved my Note 3, one of my favorite phones to date.
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Thank you for your honesty. I did further research and I found many saying my $300 Fitbit Ionic watch isn't compatible with the Pixel 2 XL, so I'm glad I didn't trade my device yet. The only device I wouldn't mind trading for is the S9+ because I know there won't be any issues with compatibility.
Buy an iphone
xbmoyx said:
Thank you for your honesty. I did further research and I found many saying my $300 Fitbit Ionic watch isn't compatible with the Pixel 2 XL, so I'm glad I didn't trade my device yet. The only device I wouldn't mind trading for is the S9+ because I know there won't be any issues with compatibility.
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No problem, I wish I had known about the Bluetooth issue before getting my 2XL. I had heard there were some issues but was not expecting it to be quite so extensive. Annoyingly, I may be stuck with the phone as I am a few days outside the 15-day return window, which will leave me just hoping for a fix.
smiley45 said:
Buy an iphone
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Buy an iphone
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You sellin?
Oh darn, I cracked my S8 screen, time for a new phone! I didn't have the Exynos S8, so I was never able to root this phone, and I miss it desperately. I'm probably going to buy an S10 or maybe S20, and it looks like there's still no Snapdragon root. My question is - is there any drawback to getting an Exynos version, and does it place nice with Verizon? Are all international versions Exynos? What search terms do I have to use to verify that I'm getting an Exynos version? Basically - is there any reason not to get an Exynos S10? Is there an Exynos version of all of the S10 phones (S10, S10+, S10 Ultra)?
I have been Rooting Samsung Galaxy's since the S6.
My friend owns several independent phone stores.
We have tried virtually every provider out there.
Prior to owning Samsung Galaxys I WAS an iphone owner. (My very last iphone was a 5.)
I always Jailbroke the iphones and the reason I stopped purchasing was the price...
So, what I have found out about buying and rooting Samsungs is this:
I don't believe you will get the performance of a U.S . phone when you purchase a EXYNOS.
My belief is due to the fact that you won't have the same bands available to you vs the American version. If you can live with less connectivity then go ahead and make your purchase.
Additionally, the whole process of Rooting a Samsung Exynos phone is complicated. You are not likely to Hard Brick the phone, but be prepared to spend time on XDA solving your problems.
Because of my background in Computer Systems Analysis, and due to the fact that I am patient and willing to ask the questions, plus read through an entire blog listing for the specific download, I have been successful...but to what end? When I think about the time spent, aggravation, etc., there is a diminishing loss ... currently running S10e EXYNOS Rooted with TWRP
Look for the SM-G970F SM-G973F SM-G975F versions which are EXYNOS
Thanks, although that's disappointing. I don't mind the technical stuff, I've rooted every phone prior to my s8, and I don't mind a challenge, I've softbricked plenty of phones, but haven't hard bricked one yet. I've done IT stuff my whole life, so if it's not actively on fire, it's still fixable, and I learn stuff in the process.
But from your reply and doing a lot of reading, it does seem like Exynos would be a significant performance hit. I'm really stubborn about things being open source and hardware being hackable, and my biggest reason for rooting is simply because I should be able to on principle, and I have daddy issues and don't like being told what to do, lol. I'll have to balance that with the performance/connectivity hit.
I'm assuming it's the same deal with the note line? Exynos is the only thing rootable and is significantly slower? Phooey. I've been using Samsung galaxies for the last 8 years or so, maybe I should look into the Pixel? I think that's the only other comparable Verizon phone?
uberpippi said:
Thanks, although that's disappointing. I don't mind the technical stuff, I've rooted every phone prior to my s8, and I don't mind a challenge, I've softbricked plenty of phones, but haven't hard bricked one yet. I've done IT stuff my whole life, so if it's not actively on fire, it's still fixable, and I learn stuff in the process.
But from your reply and doing a lot of reading, it does seem like Exynos would be a significant performance hit. I'm really stubborn about things being open source and hardware being hackable, and my biggest reason for rooting is simply because I should be able to on principle, and I have daddy issues and don't like being told what to do, lol. I'll have to balance that with the performance/connectivity hit.
I'm assuming it's the same deal with the note line? Exynos is the only thing rootable and is significantly slower? Phooey. I've been using Samsung galaxies for the last 8 years or so, maybe I should look into the Pixel? I think that's the only other comparable Verizon phone?
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Actually its not the same. I just switched to Note 10+ Exynos and the performance is extraordinary! I havent rooted it yet, but out of the box everything is fast, including uploads of pics. I went to the Plus because of the higher resolution & 12GB memory + MicroSD Capability.