[Off Topic] Samsung washing machines explode - Off-topic

http://m.koco.com/money/us-warns-samsung-washing-machine-owners-after-explosion-reports/41864842
Apparently, Samsung has their hands full at this point lol.
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I'm not a Samsung loyalist, however I've fallen victim to their shenanigans twice this year. I not only purchased a Note 7 (returned it due to explosions) but also have a Samsung washer..... I'm seriously reconsidering them as a 'reliable' brand. I haven't picked up a "fixed" Note 7 yet, and I'm not sure I will. The LG v20 is looking better. (IF I can stomach this S7 (flat) long enough for the v20 to release.)
I'm also going to follow up on this washer issue... Stay tuned.

Yea, they'll do that if you load them above the weight limit... We're all tech savvy enough to know what happens if you overload the weight capacity on a spinning, rotating motor....

ShadowLea said:
Yea, they'll do that if you load them above the weight limit... We're all tech savvy enough to know what happens if you overload the weight capacity on a spinning, rotating motor....
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I agree, and commonsense is not so common.
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LOL I shudder to think what would happen had they been making planes or hybrid cars. Quality testing department seems to be non existent at Samsung. @ShadowLea thoughts?
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I think we would be in some serious trouble. On a side note, I hear apple is having issues with its new improved version of the ibomb. The iPhone 7 has been exploding too.
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Definitely not going to buy one for my parents on xmas.

ViTALiTY00 said:
Definitely not going to buy one for my parents on xmas.
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I was actually thinking about buying one, and their new fridge. The last thing I need is for my fridge to turn into a transformer or something. So I'll keep it simple and stick with whirlpool, or Frigidaire.
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ironman38102 said:
LOL I shudder to think what would happen had they been making planes or hybrid cars. Quality testing department seems to be non existent at Samsung. @ShadowLea thoughts?
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Those cars would probably come equipped with a fire siren for a horn... :laugh:
While their QA department certainly seems to have disappeared overnight, it's more a classic case of the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon. (Also known as frequency illusion. You know, when you buy a car and suddenly see the same type everywhere.)
You would never have heard about the washing machine if the Note 7 didn't have the spontaneous combustion issue. But now people are all jumping on the bandwagon, hoping to catch a bit of free cash from the court cases. After all, it's easier to win when you can point at something else as evidence. "Yes, my washing machine exploded, see, it happens to their phones too!"
Exploding washing machine? They added too much weight over the safety limit.
Note 2 burst into flames? Yea, it's a 4 year old device, there's a 99% chance they used a 3rd party cheap battery. Those always leak.
Tablet started smoking on a plane? Yea, the moron wedged it between the seats and then changed the seat position, squashing the tablet. Lithium is a flammable gas!
Nearly every other Samsung device in history (apart from the Note 7) that caught fire had a user-based cause.
Still, I find it utterly hilarious. We warned them time and again about prioritizing Apple over their own customers, and this is a typical case of karma. The financial costs of this mess are a thousand times higher than the money they hoped to earn from beating Apple to the release.
And do they learn? Of course not, now the S8 is going to get an early release to make up for it.

ShadowLea said:
Those cars would probably come equipped with a fire siren for a horn... :laugh:
While their QA department certainly seems to have disappeared overnight, it's more a classic case of the Baader-Meinhof phenomenon. (Also known as frequency illusion. You know, when you buy a car and suddenly see the same type everywhere.)
You would never have heard about the washing machine if the Note 7 didn't have the spontaneous combustion issue. But now people are all jumping on the bandwagon, hoping to catch a bit of free cash from the court cases. After all, it's easier to win when you can point at something else as evidence. "Yes, my washing machine exploded, see, it happens to their phones too!"
Exploding washing machine? They added too much weight over the safety limit.
Note 2 burst into flames? Yea, it's a 4 year old device, there's a 99% chance they used a 3rd party cheap battery. Those always leak.
Tablet started smoking on a plane? Yea, the moron wedged it between the seats and then changed the seat position, squashing the tablet. Lithium is a flammable gas!
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Hold on if they put too much weight over the safety limit then how the hell are they allowed to complain? The machine exploded due to their own stupidity, not manufacturing defect. I mean sure this is 2016 where no one reads manuals but you should have some sense not to stuff the machine with a lot of clothes! As for the Note 2 incident I completely agree that its probably using third party potato battery.
I mean I have my first device still which released on 2012 or 2013 and recently it's battery was swollen to the point that it would have exploded any minute, and as this device is old I didn't have a choice but to get a third party battery. Also who the hell decides to stuff their phone in tight spaces?! You aren't suppose to squish batteries FFS! I mean really do people today forget that phones are a ticking time bomb? With phones having Lithium-ion batteries they should know that these things can explode under excessive heat. Especially if the circuitry inside the battery that prevents overcharging is damaged which is most likely easy to happen in these cheap third party batteries. It doesn't help either if you are using potato quality cables. Like you said, people are just finding reasons to hate Samsung now that its reputation is tarnished abit. Just like the media did for Qualcomm for its 810 issues.
ShadowLea said:
Nearly every other Samsung device in history (apart from the Note 7) that caught fire had a user-based cause.
Still, I find it utterly hilarious. We warned them time and again about prioritizing Apple over their own customers, and this is a typical case of karma. The financial costs of this mess are a thousand times higher than the money they hoped to earn from beating Apple to the release.
And do they learn? Of course not, now the S8 is going to get an early release to make up for it.
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They were in such a hurry to win the release race against Apple they ended up bargaining more than they hoped for. Had they put the time and effort instead on focusing the quality of the device rather than how quickly it releases, they wouldn't have to spend $1 billion for this mess. Thats not all, they'll have losses from the fact that people might just return their Note 7s and get something else. Where I live(Middle East), many people I know who are loyal to Samsung decided its enough and decided to get their money back and buy iPhone 7 so congratulations Samsung, you gave more customers to Apple(atleast in Middle East anyway).

ironman38102 said:
Hold on if they put too much weight over the safety limit then how the hell are they allowed to complain? The machine exploded due to their own stupidity, not manufacturing defect. I mean sure this is 2016 where no one reads manuals but you should have some sense not to stuff the machine with a lot of clothes! As for the Note 2 incident I completely agree that its probably using third party potato battery.
I mean I have my first device still which released on 2012 or 2013 and recently it's battery was swollen to the point that it would have exploded any minute, and as this device is old I didn't have a choice but to get a third party battery. Also who the hell decides to stuff their phone in tight spaces?! You aren't suppose to squish batteries FFS! I mean really do people today forget that phones are a ticking time bomb? With phones having Lithium-ion batteries they should know that these things can explode under excessive heat. Especially if the circuitry inside the battery that prevents overcharging is damaged which is most likely easy to happen in these cheap third party batteries. It doesn't help either if you are using potato quality cables. Like you said, people are just finding reasons to hate Samsung now that its reputation is tarnished abit. Just like the media did for Qualcomm for its 810 issues.
They were in such a hurry to win the release race against Apple they ended up bargaining more than they hoped for. Had they put the time and effort instead on focusing the quality of the device rather than how quickly it releases, they wouldn't have to spend $1 billion for this mess. Thats not all, they'll have losses from the fact that people might just return their Note 7s and get something else. Where I live(Middle East), many people I know who are loyal to Samsung decided its enough and decided to get their money back and buy iPhone 7 so congratulations Samsung, you gave more customers to Apple(atleast in Middle East anyway).
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A friend of mine in AUS was telling me about her parents Samsung washing machine smoking. The main circuitry went up apparently. Not sure how much truth there is to it, as she didn't include pics. Would've been a sight to see for sure though.
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iPhone 6s exploded recently. Sent the guy to the hospital. It was in his pocket, just sitting there idle. And boom.
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If depends by me, this damn inc. Was exploded a long time AGO!
Together with gogle's and appl'es damn bastards.
Don't use blackmart.apk
This is a damn pest that injects dangerous .jar files onto cache folder.
If you block cache folder this DAMN MALWARE refuses to start!
Be aware!
Authentic .jar files inside cache, may destroy your GPU , DESTROYS YOUR SYSTEM DIR, may gain root without su binary usage!
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This xda app i use now, was downloaded via blackmart.
They are a band of suckers, the peerblock acuses anyip.svc.yourserver.de
This a german app, masked as rusian.
DIFFAMING THE RUSIANS.
SU CKERS!
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Why they dom't hack gogle? They are together with the new "gogle" amazon.
Hahaha!
All implagued with jar and dex files onto cache!
Be aware, open your eyes, playstorre, blackmart, any damn app dowloader uses cached randomic binaries came from their DAMN servers. Facebok, telegram, any app that uses DAMN AD MALWARES TOO.
GRATEFULL TO DISCOVER ALL THIS BECAUSE I AM ON SDEXT2 NTFS . HA HA.

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If you hate apple/iPhone

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hehe... nice...never liked apple products
I wonder if Ghost Armour can stop 7.62's ..... ?
haha .. Think Apples Warranty will cover it ?
Hell no they probably convince apple fan boy that ... they need to pay them 500 dollars
Gonzo__ said:
I wonder if Ghost Armour can stop 7.62's ..... ?
haha .. Think Apples Warranty will cover it ?
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Haaaaaa.
I have been using an iPhone since 2008.. and I do not like it anymore.
Shortly after my vibrate button broke off the side of the phone, I began to realize how little I use what the phone was designed to do. Apps.
I plan to get a Samsung Galaxy s2 or equivalent and go the way of the Droid.
I have never liked Iphones. Don't know why you would go for one when phones like Galaxy S and S2 are there.
I think everyone that hates a phone has some issues rofflmfao
Nex_1 said:
I think everyone that hates a phone has some issues rofflmfao
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Nope. Ask my ex-crackberry user friends. Ever since Whatsapp came out, they've been leaving RIM in droves.
I want an iPhone so bad so that I'll sell it for $600 and I'll buy a laptop and some Bacon, that's got to be lots of Bacon.
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That's pretty wasteful, but I do like the 1911.
Good video!
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I guess I just don't understand the whole "hating a product" thing.
I don't like iPhucks because they are too expensive and break easily.
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I guess I just don't understand the whole "hating a product" thing.
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When you have to work/fix iCrap (yes they do fail more so then you think) you tend to dread seeing them come in.
They are not serviceable friendly, (and I am talking about ALL iProducts) overpriced, underpowered and marketed to sheeple by a n narcissistic prude.
Case in point, It takes between 40 to 60 min to replace the MB in a iMac if you know what your doing. A PC motherboard can be swapped in under 10 min.
All iProducts mfg after 2008 require specialized tools just to work on them and in some cases only available from Apple.
I had to purchase a special driver just to open up the macbook Air's for $30. They sent me a plastic handle with the special bit worth all of $2 at harbor freight. (if they carried it)
I have asked many of time to be able to takeout some frustration on one and shooting any apple product would be fun but it would not compare to the satisfaction of using tannerite.
Not really hate for the phone, i hate the people that use it. I see it everyday at work when people pull it out. whats the first thing i see even if it has a case? the white apple logo on the back. haha even the way people hold it when talking they don't cover the apple logo...
Haha nice.
You almost spelled out my username on other forums and the email I use: "SyrianGasolHatesApple."

Note 7 fraus

I have a sneaky suspicion that all the "New reports" are fraud. Like ppl tampered with the notes to get a pay day. I feel Samsung is only stopping sells & production as a "just in case" it is real. I highly doubt Samsung made the same error twice in a row. I'm holding on to my note until an official statement comes out. I think Sammy just knows that for the life of the note7 these reports will keep popping up and they'll be losing millions in bogus report investigations and fake litigation ... What do you guys think?
I think it is highly possible
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I don't blame them for pulling the note series. It may not even come back. The note name is tarnished now. People won't be so trusting of it. They may release a 7 edge + lol. We shall see.
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Either way, You can forget about any future software upgrades and support from Samsung or the XDA community. It will also have ZERO resale value on the streets and through JUMP and the stigma of owning one will be the same as being a fool for not caring about your safety. People will look at you as a terrorist who carries a potential bomb in his pocket and you will not be able to board planes, cruise liners, etc... with it. The Note 7 was the best phone I ever had. However, it's only a phone. I moved on with my life. Yesterday I changed it for a Galaxy S7 Edge. I will have it until the S8 comes out in the future. IT's just not worth it; too many hassles for a phone that cost almost $900.
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I have a sneaky suspicion that all the "New reports" are fraud. Like ppl tampered with the notes to get a pay day. I feel Samsung is only stopping sells & production as a "just in case" it is real. I highly doubt Samsung made the same error twice in a row. I'm holding on to my note until an official statement comes out. I think Sammy just knows that for the life of the note7 these reports will keep popping up and they'll be losing millions in bogus report investigations and fake litigation ... What do you guys think?
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I'd think that for its reputation's sake, Samsung would be quick to point out that some of the phones had been tampered with.
Eudeferrer said:
Either way, You can forget about any future software upgrades and support from Samsung or the XDA community. It will also have ZERO resale value on the streets and through JUMP and the stigma of owning one will be the same as being a fool for not caring about your safety. People will look at you as a terrorist who carries a potential bomb in his pocket and you will not be able to board planes, cruise liners, etc... with it. The Note 7 was the best phone I ever had. However, it's only a phone. I moved on with my life. Yesterday I changed it for a Galaxy S7 Edge. I will have it until the S8 comes out in the future. IT's just not worth it; too many hassles for a phone that cost almost $900.
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how would Jump be effected? I read the other post in here about it and contacted T-Mobile and until anything concrete comes out they said its nothing more than what it always has been Jump from one phone to the other. Did you personally hear something otherwise
I was told that you will always be entitled to a full refund on the device, therefore, its market value is irrelevant. Keep it until you want another device and then get your refund.
Eudeferrer said:
Either way, You can forget about any future software upgrades and support from Samsung or the XDA community. It will also have ZERO resale value on the streets and through JUMP and the stigma of owning one will be the same as being a fool for not caring about your safety. People will look at you as a terrorist who carries a potential bomb in his pocket and you will not be able to board planes, cruise liners, etc... with it. The Note 7 was the best phone I ever had. However, it's only a phone. I moved on with my life. Yesterday I changed it for a Galaxy S7 Edge. I will have it until the S8 comes out in the future. IT's just not worth it; too many hassles for a phone that cost almost $900.
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I don't care what people think. I can throw a case on the phone and a skin no one would know it was a note. And honestly if this phone didn't get updated for a year when whatever replaces it comes out it will bee ahead of everything out... Android 7.0 didn't really bring anything Samsung doesn't already have so I'm not missing a game changer. But I will miss my SPen! And jump won't be effected, and I have jump on demand so maybe something will catch my eye. And these days (Samsung pay, s health, private folder, iris scanner) I don't root anymore because I'd lose to may features. Idk I just don't want to lose something great because of liars.
And technically it hasn't been recalled. These are just preliminary steps what are the chances, after the investigation it is deemed a recall isn't necessary , I wonder
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And technically it hasn't been recalled. These are just preliminary steps what are the chances, after the investigation it is deemed a recall isn't necessary , I wonder
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Even if they do come back in a month and say "false alarm, everything is fine guys" it's always going to be planted in the back of my mind as a what-if. Meaning that I'll always be wondering if my phone might develop that flaw that causes it to fail and tarnishing my experience with the phone. It's a great phone and it'll be hard to replace, but I just can't enjoy using it now. Probably a silly thing to think, but there it is.
Stopped at the local T-Mo store to check out the S7E... First it doesn't come in black or at least T-Mobile doesn't stock the black version - I'm not a fan of shiny phones. While the size wasn't much of a difference, It's still a difference I'll notice.
I'll be keeping my Note 7 until they pry it from my cold crispy charred fingers!

Samsung's failure

The note 7. What a failure for Samsung. Economically and their reputation. But who's really to blame. Battery manufactures are spotty at best for any electronics manufacture. Its just how that gamble works in the battery game. There are no real reliable sources. That's why there are most likely 6 18650 battery cells in your older laptop, made by Sony, Samsung, or LG. Each cell is 4.2 volts when fully charged. Wired in series, this equals 25.2 volts. Each cell has a minimum of 3 volts, or 18 volts in series. Which means your battery pack can operate from roughly 18-25volts. Your charger is a 19 volt charger. Meaning when they designed your laptop, they did so keeping in mind on average of 1 out of 6 of your cells has had a manufacturing catastrophic failure. But the battery pack will still work. Why do you think they die so fast and their capacities diminish? Now Samsung releases millions of cell phones with non-removable battery covers, forcing users to purchase new phones instead of batteries, it's like they where asking for a 19 billion dollar loss, because they can't point fingers at anyone but themselves, knowing the battery market is as it is today. I don't feel sorry for them for going cheap and trying to copy apple. We are fortunate we didn't see this happen sooner, although we all take today's technologies for granted and expect miracles from countries that cannot keep up to our capitalist demand, like legitimate batteries.
Thing is Samsung isn't the first to do sealed in batteries and this isnt their first phone with a sealed in battery (see S6, S6edge, S6edge+, Note5, S7. S7edge). Making the statement that they were asking for it by sealing in batteries is an over simplification when you consider all the phones that have sealed batteries and all the tablets that have always had sealed batteries.
Also what does it have to do with "keeping up with our capitalist demands". South Korea where Samsung is based is in fact a capitalist country, maybe you are mistaking it for socialist state like North Korea.
If anything it is a failure of QA on their end (opting to test everything in house, which is likely to cut cost).
I don't see a reliable way of waterproofing with a removable battery. The construction of the Sim tray with a water leak sticker right below it is a dead give away.
Half the people couldn't even click all the back fasteners on a phone anyways.
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Thing is Samsung isn't the first to do sealed in batteries and this isnt their first phone with a sealed in battery (see S6, S6edge, S6edge+, Note5, S7. S7edge). Making the statement that they were asking for it by sealing in batteries is an over simplification when you consider all the phones that have sealed batteries and all the tablets that have always had sealed batteries.
Also what does it have to do with "keeping up with our capitalist demands". South Korea where Samsung is based is in fact a capitalist country, maybe you are mistaking it for socialist state like North Korea.
If anything it is a failure of QA on their end (opting to test everything in house, which is likely to cut cost).
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Hey guy. Whats the intelligence behind sealed back covers. Profit. So when your battery goes out, you have to replace the phone not the battery. Defend samsung some more, South korea is currently suing samsung. Samsung Made this stupid decision. They could have pointed the finger at the battery manufacture and avoided the whole thing. But they had to seal it, resulting in a 19 billion dollar loss.
I don't care if it's the first, or last phone with a sealed battery cover, NONE of them should have it. Period.
SH4YD33 said:
I don't see a reliable way of waterproofing with a removable battery. The construction of the Sim tray with a water leak sticker right below it is a dead give away.
Half the people couldn't even click all the back fasteners on a phone anyways.
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The S5 was water resistant and has a removable battery.
Its 3 generation's old now so I would think the technology has gotten better since then as well
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boobteg2 said:
Hey guy. Whats the intelligence behind sealed back covers. Profit. So when your battery goes out, you have to replace the phone not the battery. Defend samsung some more, South korea is currently suing samsung. Samsung Made this stupid decision. They could have pointed the finger at the battery manufacture and avoided the whole thing. But they had to seal it, resulting in a 19 billion dollar loss.
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Thanks for not addressing every other phone with a sealed battery. Your point is already flawed.
And if you think every decision made about a device isn't based around return on investment then you are lost.
You guys come in armchair quarterbacking this and cant think outside of a pretty small box to even have a logical discussion.
Also love profound statement of Company X did this to save money/profit, what a company did something in an attempt to make money?!
Lol defend samsung? Did you not see my last statement about how they screwed up by using internal QA or is your confirmation bais not allowing you to acknowledge that?
force70 said:
The S5 was water resistant and has a removable battery.
Its 3 generation's old now so I would think the technology has gotten better since then as well
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If you read his post fully it says he doesnt see a reliable way of water proofing. Thing is the s5 had its fair share of unhappy users that utilized the water resistance only to realize they didn't secure one of the covers completely or the back wasnt fully closed. Then since water resistance doesnt negate water damage as a no no for insurance claims you had a lot of unhappy customers.
That being said you can't really think the resistance to ingress of moisture is better on the s5 than it is on s7.
The technology did improve, do you remember the design sacrifices for water proofing an s5? Physical buttons, port covers, what good is that in the event of an accident unless you always have them plugged.
Im not saying samsung is perfect but lets at least be objective when we discuss this.
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If you read his post fully it says he doesnt see a reliable way of water proofing. Thing is the s5 had its fair share of unhappy users that utilized the water resistance only to realize they didn't secure one of the covers completely or the back wasnt fully closed. Then since water resistance doesnt negate water damage as a no no for insurance claims you had a lot of unhappy customers.
That being said you can't really think the resistance to ingress of moisture is better on the s5 than it is on s7.
The technology did improve, do you remember the design sacrifices for water proofing an s5? Physical buttons, port covers, what good is that in the event of an accident unless you always have them plugged.
Im not saying samsung is perfect but lets at least be objective when we discuss this.
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Unreliable due to user error does not count, unreliable due to poor design and engineering is a different matter entirely.
Yes the ports all being covered was not exactly user friendly thats for sure.
And no of course I certainly would not expect the S5 to be better in regards to water resistance or anything else for tbat matter lol
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As an engineer we are taught to design for everything, including user error. An easy and repeated user error is called an engineering design flaw.
I am reminded of a tooth paste tube story where they changed the cap to be the pop off type instead of the screw off type. this is of course a better design as the pop top stays on the tube and is quicker than having to screw and unscrew the top each time. But consumers complained about a broken cap because they couldn't unscrew it. The designers did not say "stupid consumers" they said "bad design"
Not saying this is best for society, it limits progression, but its just the reality.
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As an engineer we are taught to design for everything, including user error. An easy and repeated user error is called an engineering design flaw.
I am reminded of a tooth paste tube story where they changed the cap to be the pop off type instead of the screw off type. this is of course a better design as the pop top stays on the tube and is quicker than having to screw and unscrew the top each time. But consumers complained about a broken cap because they couldn't unscrew it. The designers did not say "stupid consumers" they said "bad design"
Not saying this is best for society, it limits progression, but its just the reality.
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I beleive the layman's term is idiot proofing. Which from my experience is impossible as there is always one idiot who can find way to screw up even the best design or instructions lol
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I beleive the layman's term is idiot proofing. Which from my experience is impossible as there is always one idiot who can find way to screw up even the best design or instructions lol
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Agreed, no matter how much time i spend designing something, and thinking its idiot proof, Somebody somehow always finds a way......
pcriz said:
Thanks for not addressing every other phone with a sealed battery. Your point is already flawed.
And if you think every decision made about a device isn't based around return on investment then you are lost.
You guys come in armchair quarterbacking this and cant think outside of a pretty small box to even have a logical discussion.
Also love profound statement of Company X did this to save money/profit, what a company did something in an attempt to make money?!
Lol defend samsung? Did you not see my last statement about how they screwed up by using internal QA or is your confirmation bais not allowing you to acknowledge that?
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Now it looks like Samsung will have to defend itself. There being sued for this by the South Korean people. Look at the end of the day, I don't work for any of them so I don't really give a damn. I'm just talking out of my a$$ to rant sorry. You can delete this thread if you want.
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Now it looks like Samsung will have to defend itself. There being sued for this by the South Korean people. Look at the end of the day, I don't work for any of them so I don't really give a damn. I'm just talking out of my a$$ to rant sorry. You can delete this thread if you want.
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I think they should be sued. I will bet you money you will see a full influx of leaks for the s8 and all the hype and promotions will have everyone forget this mess even happened.
I have never been tied to one brand but Samsung solely because of the Note line has seen the most action for me. This go around I am ditching sammy for the Pixel. I can't act like coming from a Note 7 it doesnt feel like a downgrade but most phones on the market do at this point.
pcriz said:
I think they should be sued. I will bet you money you will see a full influx of leaks for the s8 and all the hype and promotions will have everyone forget this mess even happened.
I have never been tied to one brand but Samsung solely because of the Note line has seen the most action for me. This go around I am ditching sammy for the Pixel. I can't act like coming from a Note 7 it doesnt feel like a downgrade but most phones on the market do at this point.
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You know what's really bad? Besides the fact we are no longer seeing note 7 fires and from the ones that were officially found to be fraudulent or media bull****...i guarantee the note 8 will have people claiming their note 8 catches on fire when that comes out. I promise you there will be and I wouldn't be surprised if that's immediately cancelled without even bothering to realize people fake **** and possibly, though I doubt it, people and companies sabotage other companies.
Point is there defenantly was a design defect and Samsung screwed up but it is strange we aren't hearing about it anymore and I am genuinely concerned about the note 8 and bogus claims.
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force70 said:
I beleive the layman's term is idiot proofing. Which from my experience is impossible as there is always one idiot who can find way to screw up even the best design or instructions lol
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Samsung is a very autocratic company with the top-level brass often over ruling the engineers.
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Samsung is a very autocratic company with the top-level brass often over ruling the engineers.
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Which is not unlike many companies lol.
If i had a dollar for everytime Ive had to say "I told you so" to some dumb ass executive who overuled the correct course of action which then caused issues and the company alot of money Id be a rich man.
Anybody got the old .apk of Package Disabler Pro? It updated to prevent us from blocking system updates, and starting tomorrow, Samsung is rolling out updates to limit charging to 60%!
RaymondPJR said:
Anybody got the old .apk of Package Disabler Pro? It updated to prevent us from blocking system updates, and starting tomorrow, Samsung is rolling out updates to limit charging to 60%!
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Guys uninstall the old package pro and download version 6.3 from this website. They disable the urgentfwupdate from version 6.6 which will allow samsung to send updates to our phones.
http://m.apkhere.com/app/com.ospolice.packagedisablerpro
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Anybody got the old .apk of Package Disabler Pro? It updated to prevent us from blocking system updates, and starting tomorrow, Samsung is rolling out updates to limit charging to 60%!
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Protection plans and/or insurance Lost Stolen for your Note 9? Who?

I just pre ordered on Amazon USA the 512 unlocked version... so these phones are the very pricy and fragile. Who here is getting a protection plan? and did you pick a plan to include Theft or better yet include Theft and Lost?
I personally never done a plan before, need help. I am a very heavy user with apps while on the run in many different situations. My S7 I have cracks all over even with using a Samsung flip view case, and being careful. Just sometimes cement gets in the way hehe.
From my research I am leaning towards Worth Ave, maybe Squaretrade? maybe Bestbuy?
SovRoxx said:
I just pre ordered on Amazon USA the 512 unlocked version... so these phones are the very pricy and fragile. Who here is getting a protection plan? and did you pick a plan to include Theft or better yet include Theft and Lost?
I personally never done a plan before, need help. I am a very heavy user with apps while on the run in many different situations. My S7 I have cracks all over even with using a Samsung flip view case, and being careful. Just sometimes cement gets in the way hehe.
From my research I am leaning towards Worth Ave, maybe Squaretrade? maybe Bestbuy?
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This is going to sound very ignorant....
People steal phones? And who the heck are they stealing from??? ?
Maybe I'm just naive or Uber careful with my expensive items, but I have never had a situation where my devices/items can be stolen.
I purchased the Samsung Premium Care for $11.99 when I pre-ordered.
I use Squaretrade, I actually just had to file a claim because of my S8+ screen. It was simple and quick, I will be using them again for my Note 9. Fyi I've never had a phone lost or stolen and as they do not cover that.
Jammol said:
This is going to sound very ignorant....
People steal phones? And who the heck are they stealing from??? ?
Maybe I'm just naive or Uber careful with my expensive items, but I have never had a situation where my devices/items can be stolen.
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Yea dudes sure! These phones and iphones stolen is very common. Like I said... I really am a poweruser and not just for casual surfing... I am stressed, running, in and out of car with it in my hand, in weird situations! I am VERY careful but believe me when in use under stressful work conditions and environmental conditions that are new to you almost everyday things happen that you cannot foresee.
Since I had my S7, my X left it in the bathroom at Disney! Why? because tired and stressed and running for her that day was a different distraction. We got it back luckily the next day. My friend with his iphone on Space Mountain... phone in his pocket.. but was a sudden move and flew off down into the black hole! he got it back the next day too, but damaged. For me its more work related PLUS normal related and I don't sit at a desk most the week. Somebody mentioned mowing the lawn and something snagged the cable and ripped out of his pocket the phone. Just weird stuff can happen because you aren't used to your new environment especially! plus poweruser = good luck. Drop it over the edge of the sea? Good luck! lol this piece of glass I have to keep for 2 years in my hands all day doing cartwheels??? I think I will get a lost plan too!
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Yea dudes sure! These phones and iphones stolen is very common. Like I said... I really am a poweruser and not just for casual surfing... I am stressed, running, in and out of car with it in my hand, in weird situations! I am VERY careful but believe me when in use under stressful work conditions and environmental conditions that are new to you almost everyday things happen that you cannot foresee.
Since I had my S7, my X left it in the bathroom at Disney! Why? because tired and stressed and running for her that day was a different distraction. We got it back luckily the next day. My friend with his iphone on Space Mountain... phone in his pocket.. but was a sudden move and flew off down into the black hole! he got it back the next day too, but damaged. For me its more work related PLUS normal related and I don't sit at a desk most the week. Somebody mentioned mowing the lawn and something snagged the cable and ripped out of his pocket the phone. Just weird stuff can happen because you aren't used to your new environment especially! plus poweruser = good luck. Drop it over the edge of the sea? Good luck! lol this piece of glass I have to keep for 2 years in my hands all day doing cartwheels??? I think I will get a lost plan too!
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I'm not talking about leaving it somewhere, I'm talking about them getting stolen.
No offense to anyone but I'm always conscious of where I put my things, it's part of my OCPD. Maybe that's why I don't lose my things? Don't know. To me, if you forget your things or decide to do dangerous things with your device, your fault but that's what insurance is for.
OP, have you ever lost your children or left them in a car and forgot?
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If I used my kids like I do my phone I'd be arrested
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If I used my kids like I do my phone I'd be arrested
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You don't root your kids and install custom ROMs on them?
OP (and others), some credit cards provide phone insurance. [1,2]
Not necessarily worth getting a credit card for unless you are using it for something else, or taking advantage of any available sign-up bonus, but thought I'd chime in with 'passive' insurance. I believe all of these consist on charging your monthly bill on the card, and have slightly different coverage/limitations/stipulations.
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[1] https://www.doctorofcredit.com/credit-card-cell-phone-insurance-compared-get-600-coverage-free/
[2] https://clark.com/personal-finance-...ards/credit-cards-free-cell-phone-protection/
I've been using the Worth Ave Group insurance for the past few years for my wife and I and I love them. Inexpensive coverage and absolutely stress free customer service and processing. I've had 2 screens replaced without issue at a repair center of my choosing. You go get the estimate and they send you a check minus the $75 deductible, no questions asked.
Ha, ha...come to India, get into a bus, and you will know how phones get stolen from your pocket!

Note 9 bursting into flames..

Personally, I don't believe these stories but I thought I'd share nonetheless.
https://nypost.com/2018/09/15/woman-says-galaxy-note-9-burst-into-flames-inside-her-purse/amp/
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Sounds like Apple fans trying to keep Samsung down. Won't work. Note 9 is awesome
I don't think anyone can ever truly believe that their batteries are so perfect that it could never happen.
It's happened to all manufacturers and as long as we keep using a volatile chemistry such as the lithium polymers, we will keep seeing it happen, isolated or not.
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No picture, no proof
Limeybastard said:
Personally, I don't believe these stories but I thought I'd share nonetheless.
https://nypost.com/2018/09/15/woman-says-galaxy-note-9-burst-into-flames-inside-her-purse/amp/
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Can Samsung be this stupid and careless to repeat the same blunder for the third time!! I strongly feel they simply can't be.
Having said so, I can let the battery burst if I have the will and plan it accordingly.
Yeah, no pics, even in the original source, NYPOST, a lot of nonsense to describe in a long article, without a single pic or vid... Don't think poor Samsung can afford to go through the infamous "flaming phone" again, after the costly Galaxy note 7 wordwide recall. Nevertheless, the news itself even cannot be proofed, must be like a haunted curse to Samsung.
"delet this"
- Samsung CEO
I can smell the bulls*** content of that article from miles away
If there were any pics, I would be skeptical, but now, hell no
Ha yeah what nonsense. It said a good Samaritan picked up the phone, in flames, with a "cloth" lol, and dumped it in a bucket of water, I don't know where this apparently happend, but I mean we've all seen these safety buckets in every lobby right? ?? I vote this thread be deleted as it's only contributing to it's spread. If any actual evidence appears then yeah, fair enough. But at the moment it just screams attention seeking money grabber haha.
Artstar said:
I don't think anyone can ever truly believe that their batteries are so perfect that it could never happen.
It's happened to all manufacturers and as long as we keep using a volatile chemistry such as the lithium polymers, we will keep seeing it happen, isolated or not.
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clean energy haha make america great again!
elliwigy said:
clean energy haha make america great again!
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WTF?!?!? lol
We all know that batteries can fail just like any other component. However I don't believe this is going to be the wide spread fiasco that was the Note 7.
Also, My phone doesn't even heat up under normal or extended use. All of my Note 7's did.
Scott said:
WTF?!?!? lol
We all know that batteries can fail just like any other component. However I don't believe this is going to be the wide spread fiasco that was the Note 7.
Also, My phone doesn't even heat up under normal or extended use. All of my Note 7's did.
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i was joking lol theres no wide spread issue.. prolly just some folks who cant let past b past lol
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i was joking lol theres no wide spread issue.. prolly just some folks who cant let past b past lol
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I think her phone did burst into flames but it can happen to any phone.
She already has a lawsuit against Samsung? Hmmm... Going for the money?
Scott said:
I think her phone did burst into flames but it can happen to any phone.
She already has a lawsuit against Samsung? Hmmm... Going for the money?
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haha why not, i would
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Scott said:
WTF?!?!? lol
We all know that batteries can fail just like any other component. However I don't believe this is going to be the wide spread fiasco that was the Note 7.
Also, My phone doesn't even heat up under normal or extended use. All of my Note 7's did.
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I don't think heat during normal use was an indication of the fault in the note 7. A lot of users reported no indicators before it happened.
Thermal runaway can happen pretty quickly. As in the thing is smoking before you realized it was hot
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Artstar said:
I don't think anyone can ever truly believe that their batteries are so perfect that it could never happen.
It's happened to all manufacturers and as long as we keep using a volatile chemistry such as the lithium polymers, we will keep seeing it happen, isolated or not.
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Couldn't agree more. Everyone is all up in arms after what happened with the note 7 but there are so many factors to consider with the chemistry of the batteries and the manufacturing process.
No battery ever will be completely devoid of defects, just so happened a design flaw in the note 7 exasperated other elements of the battery manufacturing process that caused the batteries to fail at a higher rate.
Companies manage risk because it cannot be eliminated, the note 7 wasn't a matter of them not having tests and procedures in place. It's a matter of best laid plans. Some times chit happens.
My main worry is this hurts Note 9 sales and they decide to nix the Note 10. I recall Samsung is going to decide to keep or nix the Note 10 depending on sales of the Note 9. Otherwise the Note and S line will be merged.
Blues fan said:
My main worry is this hurts Note 9 sales and they decide to nix the Note 10. I recall Samsung is going to decide to keep or nix the Note 10 depending on sales of the Note 9. Otherwise the Note and S line will be merged.
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If the note 7 didn't stop them....
Thing is if the note line goes away it will probably still be a note with another name. And also it would have nothing to do with one phone taking a crap.
No pics or evidence
New York *anything* (imo everything from that state, and media in general, cant be trusted without evidence).
Kinda sad this is newsworthy at all. Phones explode all the time. An iPhone battery exploded while my coworker was trying to replace its battery just a couple months ago. No one cares.
You should've used archive.is or something, OP, this is clickbait at best.
Until it's official thread closed to prevent widespread panic and mass hysteria....???

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