My wife has been talking about the Kindle Fire HD to be a Christmas present to our children. Now I'm a Google Nexus phone owner and enjoy the rooted and custom ROM's very much.
I'm comparing the KFHD and wonder if another Android device like the Google Nexus 7 wouldn't come with the same stuff as the KFHD and give me a more open system to fiddle with.
What are the main reasons for going after the KFHD over any other android tablet (considering the KFHD and Nexus 7 almost have the same price point)
Will things like Amazon Prime not work on android tablets? From the Prime web page I only see an iPad support but nothing generic like an android tablet.
I would appreciate any feedback or experience.
I do have an original kindle, but hardly use it anymore, since I can do the same stuff on my Thrive android tablet.
Thanks Jens
dnargsiefil said:
My wife has been talking about the Kindle Fire HD to be a Christmas present to our children. Now I'm a Google Nexus phone owner and enjoy the rooted and custom ROM's very much.
I'm comparing the KFHD and wonder if another Android device like the Google Nexus 7 wouldn't come with the same stuff as the KFHD and give me a more open system to fiddle with.
What are the main reasons for going after the KFHD over any other android tablet (considering the KFHD and Nexus 7 almost have the same price point)
Will things like Amazon Prime not work on android tablets? From the Prime web page I only see an iPad support but nothing generic like an android tablet.
I would appreciate any feedback or experience.
I do have an original kindle, but hardly use it anymore, since I can do the same stuff on my Thrive android tablet.
Thanks Jens
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Since the tablet is for a child the number one reason is kindle free time. It offers parental controls that no one else does. Google it and find out all the details but that would be the main attraction over the Nexus
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I don't think there's a need for yet another KFHD vs Nexus 7 thread. Try one of the existing ones below for a range of opinions...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1880492
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1911890
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1909334
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1920426
Please join one of those discussions. If those don't work for you, the Nexus 7 forum has plenty more with the bias slanted the other way.
I'm new to this device, and therefore new to researching about it, so if this question is redundant, I apologise. But even if it is, I hope someone will take a moment to help out.
Just got a Kindle Fire HD 7" 3rd gen for Christmas. The serial number starts with 00D2, and after it went through a couple updates, it's now running Fire OS 4.52 (build 11.4.5.2). I have a factory cord on the way, but I'm looking to be prepared for when it arrives. Is there a way to root this, yet? Can this device be rooted with Firerooter?
Also, if it is possible, I'm possibly looking to install a different ROM as well, and I'm hoping for some recommendations. I want something that offers more customization ability, and a wider set of options, but I don't need something as extravagant as CM 11, for example. I also don't want one that will lag on this device (I hate waiting), or consume the battery much faster than Fire OS 4 does. I'd prefer if it consumed less battery power honestly, but I figure that's asking for too much. Any help is appreciated.
Firerooter. Yes. KFSOWI modding community on Google+
Pretty simple i am looking for recommendations for a lollipop rom for my kindle fire hd 8.9. right now i have a unofficial cm12 rom on it found here on xda it works fine but it is a little slow. i am using twrp as my recovery etc. Im not to worried about flashing over boot loader kernel etc etc. I would like a rom that has ota updates from the projects repos etc. I would like to basically start with rom + gapps and play store. Basically a rom made for raw performance.
Sound etc must all work as this basically functions as my tv set lol
I would just drop back down to a 4.4.4 but i like the features of lollipop to much and if nothing else is out there the little sluggishness is something i can live with. On searching the forums i found some roms but they are a bit confusing in if they are even working.
No offence to the mods admins etc but it would be nice to have a sub division for the 7 and 8.9 inch models of this tablet or are all roms for the 7 compatible with the 8.9? That is something i never quite understood.
Do you guys think this device would update to marshmallow or marshmallow based roms?
no
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midnight102 said:
Do you guys think this device would update to marshmallow or marshmallow based roms?
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Nope.
You can get some of the look of Marshmallow by loading the Nova launcher onto the Fire 7.
Root the Fire 7 with RootJunky's SuperTool and install the Nova launcher with one of the SuperTool options. One of the feature options of the Nova launcher is Marshmallow style icons. In Nova launcher go to Nova Settings, Look & feel, Icon theme, Marshmallow Android 6.0.
Don't fix what isn't broken. If you look through the latest history of custom v6 roms, they're rife with installation bugs and google apps barely works. Just stick with the latest CM 5, it works great with not much room for improvement for a casual user like me.
Maybe not Roms but FireOS 6 might be available to fire 7
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Brsuperboy9 said:
Maybe not Roms but FireOS 6 might be available to fire 7
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Might - but probably not. If/when Amazon updates FireOS to an Android 6/7 base there would be no business case to push out a major update to a huge number of older budget devices. Some of those upgrades are going to fail driving up support costs. To what end? Are Fire 7 owners suddenly going to start buying more stuff from Amazon because they got a shiny new version of FireOS?
Davey126 said:
Might - but probably not. If/when Amazon updates FireOS to an Android 6/7 base there would be no business case to push out a major update to a huge number of older budget devices. Some of those upgrades are going to fail driving up support costs. To what end? Are Fire 7 owners suddenly going to start buying more stuff from Amazon because they got a shiny new version of FireOS?
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Yeah but Amazon has done an update to the next major FireOS on a few tablets. An example are the fire HD 6\7 and Fire HDX 2014 updated to FireOS 5 so why not the Fire 7, Fire HDX 8\10 getting FireOS 6
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Brsuperboy9 said:
Yeah but Amazon has done an update to the next major FireOS on a few tablets. An example are the fire HD 6\7 and Fire HDX 2014 updated to FireOS 5 so why not the Fire 7, Fire HDX 8\10 getting FireOS 6
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Price points (margins) were higher on those examples, especially the 4th gen HDX. My sense is Amazon got burned updating those devices and won't make the same mistake. Again, what's to be gained from Amazon's perspective?
Davey126 said:
Price points (margins) were higher on those examples, especially the 4th gen HDX. My sense is Amazon got burned updating those devices and won't make the same mistake. Again, what's to be gained from Amazon's perspective?
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Is there a problem? It's just an update. And you're also assuming Amazon got burned. There are a lot of people wanting Marshmallow so why do you have to try to shut a lot of people down? Like I said its just an update, not supposed to raise sales on the 5th gens.
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Brsuperboy9 said:
Is there a problem? It's just an update. And you're also assuming Amazon got burned. There are a lot of people wanting Marshmallow so why do you have to try to shut a lot of people down? Like I said its just an update, not supposed to raise sales on the 5th gens.
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Offering a different perspective. Lots of problems updating HDX models from JB->KK->LP having worked with that community for quite awhile. That said, 5th gen Fire's have more robust recovery capabilities (can reload stock if an update goes bad; could not do that on HDX; effectively bricked) so perhaps the risk is lower.
Any successful company operates against a business plan of which customer 'wants' play into that equation with varying weights. In this case device sales are arguably loss leaders; what people do with the their Amazon appliances (buy stuff from Amazon!) is where the moneys at. Lollipop -> Marshmallow is not "just an update" when deployed across a large user base with varying configs. A non-functioning or misbehaving device doesn't generate clicks and sales.
If a Marshmallow based version of FireOS does come out I suspect Amazon will heavily modify some of the most desirable features to satisfy their business interests. Doze immediately comes to mind as Amazon apps tend to aggressively run in the background monitoring everything. Now-on-Tap, granular permissions, system tuner ... I don't think so. Adopted storage would be nice.
Davey126 said:
Offering a different perspective. Lots of problems updating HDX models from JB->KK->LP having worked with that community for quite awhile. That said, 5th gen Fire's have more robust recovery capabilities (can reload stock if an update goes bad; could not do that on HDX; effectively bricked) so perhaps the risk is lower.
Any successful company operates against a business plan of which customer 'wants' play into that equation with varying weights. In this case device sales are arguably loss leaders; what people do with the their Amazon appliances (buy stuff from Amazon!) is where the moneys at. Lollipop -> Marshmallow is not "just an update" when deployed across a large user base with varying configs. A non-functioning or misbehaving device doesn't generate clicks and sales.
If a Marshmallow based version of FireOS does come out I suspect Amazon will heavily modify some of the most desirable features to satisfy their business interests. Doze immediately comes to mind as Amazon apps tend to aggressively run in the background monitoring everything. Now-on-Tap, granular permissions, system tuner ... I don't think so. Adopted storage would be nice.
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Yay, but then the bootloder would admit marshmallow/nougat so cm13/14 would be possible if it could be rooted.
FireOS is **** in every version, but if it updates, it opens the door fot new custom roms.
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Yay, but then the bootloder would admit marshmallow/nougat so cm13/14 would be possible if it could be rooted.
FireOS is **** in every version, but if it updates, it opens the door fot new custom roms.
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Yep - with you there on custom ROMs. Nothing wrong with FireOS for the target audience and desired consumer behavior. Easy to use and presents Amazon's various stores front and center. No one would be complaining there was a different core OS under the covers.
Which is better? which is faster?
Im deciding on which rom to install on my fire 7 5th gen.
jakiejohnson said:
Which is better? which is faster?
Im deciding on which rom to install on my fire 7 5th gen.
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The characterizations "better" and "faster" don't apply. Both are mature, feature complete offerings that perform similarly. Fire Nexus emulates the default UI on a legacy Nexus device which is close to pure AOSP. It's a great platform for Xposed Framework. Lineage has some usability tweaks baked in and generally suits those who like a little sugar on their cereal when it comes out of the box.
I've decided I'm gonna try to put the Nexus ROM on my rooted (Kingroot) 5th gen running 5.1.1 BUT am struggling with flashfire needs SuperSu or Magisk ( both of which don't work for me) and the twrp app doesn't have my Fire 7 in the compatible device list
I'm sat in Benidorm at the moment waiting for a big thunderstorm so this afternoon could be good opportunity to have a play
Any ideas will be greatly appreciated
Sam
madsam106 said:
I've decided I'm gonna try to put the Nexus ROM on my rooted (Kingroot) 5th gen running 5.1.1 BUT am struggling with flashfire needs SuperSu or Magisk ( both of which don't work for me) and the twrp app doesn't have my Fire 7 in the compatible device list
I'm sat in Benidorm at the moment waiting for a big thunderstorm so this afternoon could be good opportunity to have a play
Any ideas will be greatly appreciated
Sam
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Read last half dozen posts in these threads. You will need to invest time and likely some $$ to satisfy your objectives. Good luck.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/help/installing-custom-rom-fireos-5-3-1-0-t3418541
https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/help/flashing-roms-t3843485
Davey126 said:
Read last half dozen posts in these threads. You will need to invest time and likely some $$ to satisfy your objectives. Good luck.
https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/help/installing-custom-rom-fireos-5-3-1-0-t3418541
https://forum.xda-developers.com/amazon-fire/help/flashing-roms-t3843485
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Graciàs Davey lad